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Radish
Trad climber
SeKi, California
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 1, 2015 - 04:47pm PT
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Climbing hits the big time! I'm sure all the networks were surprised at all the coverage and how much people were interested in the first Free Ascent of the Dawn Wall recently and are scrambling to get there hands on some rock climbing stuff. Here we go, somebody's getting rich! Coming April 25th here.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Trailer said Saturday April 15th at 8pm (7 Central)! I wonder if they will have to edit anything out for prime time.
Add: 8pm Eastern means it will probably be on at 5pm on the west coast and then at 8pm again on the west coast. Check your local listings for the actual times in your area!
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Will they edit?
Of course - they'll edit in a clip of Bear Gryll's drinking pee!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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neebee: you did not see this image!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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If it's on Discovery, it'll be another useless *reality* show.
The actual climbing content will be minimal - like less than 5% - while conflict and arguments will be magnified.
It'll probably be un-watchable.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, mouse and all...
i do not have a tv that gets any channels, so, i'd have to ask someone to tape it for me...
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Apr 11, 2015 - 01:37pm PT
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Bump. The Discovery Channel is promoting the snot out of this, and it is weeks away. I wonder if they will edit any of the blotter scenes out.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 25, 2015 - 04:18pm PT
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It is on in 41 minutes.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Apr 25, 2015 - 05:11pm PT
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9:30 on dish in moab!
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Apr 25, 2015 - 05:26pm PT
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5-7pm on the west coast. Replay 8:30-10:30pm west coast.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 25, 2015 - 05:32pm PT
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If you play the video backwards you'll hear them say that stonemaster Obama Bin Laden free soloed Free Rider back in 1945 ......
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Apr 25, 2015 - 05:34pm PT
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Since my focus is on the Lower Meced Pass Lake event, I saw nothing but pure BS. Sorry that the guys from Sender Films who contacted me never used what I gave them.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 25, 2015 - 07:05pm PT
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LOL!
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Apr 25, 2015 - 07:26pm PT
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Ha ah mouse. They did edit that pic! It was surprising, I watched it here in Puerto Rico and thought it was produced somehow by discovery. Then I saw sender credits and it made sense.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Apr 25, 2015 - 07:37pm PT
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It goes, boys!
Lynnie was great, like she always is!!!!
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son of stan
Boulder climber
San Jose CA
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Apr 25, 2015 - 09:31pm PT
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Fellow morons here finally tricked me into watching it. Hands are sweating.
No chalk bag in the living room is a mistake won't make twice.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Apr 25, 2015 - 10:09pm PT
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Plenty good.
What about Peter, tho?!?!?!
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Apr 25, 2015 - 10:14pm PT
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I rather enjoyed it. It seemed fair. Of course I have a bias, but thinking how a non-climber might see this, and how the cult-of-personality plays out in the climbing and real world, how can one show disdain?
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Tamara Robbins
climber
not a climber, just related...
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Apr 25, 2015 - 10:23pm PT
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lol... next time I will not turn the title into an acronym in topic ;)
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Crazy Bat
Sport climber
Birmingham, AL & Seweanee, TN
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Apr 26, 2015 - 02:08am PT
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I'm in it! Well my truck is, in traffic. I's so thrilled that I got to meet so many of the faces while hanging at the bridge supporting a long rope. Thanks Nanook for your company and the introductions.
A climber groopie.
Myrna
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 26, 2015 - 06:34am PT
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Yeah, I was thinking the same;
What about Peter Croft?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 26, 2015 - 06:38am PT
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Peter was too quiet and humble?
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Levy
Big Wall climber
So Cal
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Apr 26, 2015 - 07:59am PT
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The film that was aired last night was a bit different from what I saw in September, during Facelift. What happened to the parts about Congo Chuck? There was a segment about Yabo and the origins of Midnight Lightning? What became of the segment about the Huber's & Tommy Cadwell?
Did the Sender folks make a new edit, or did the Discovery Channel edit that material out.
I'm just curious, that's all.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Apr 26, 2015 - 08:05am PT
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I think there are multiple edits.
I found the ReelRock version to be a patchwork quilt of stories. A bit of over emphasis on certain aspects of various scenes to make it seem cohesive.
When you make a film, it has to be good for the people who watch it. Not necessarily accurate.
Sender Films who contacted me never used what I gave them.
Welcome to Hollywood. One day you are on top and the next you are on the cutting room floor.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Apr 26, 2015 - 08:14am PT
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I am pleased that this is the rendition of the Yosemite story that was told, whatever the gaps. The intensive force of Robbins and Harding at the early core with their great accomplishments and opposing views eventually converging at the Wall of Early Morning Light is worthy, and will continue to be told millennia from now.
I still savour the depictions in Vertical World of Yosemite and Yosemite Climber, though I have not seen a copy of either in 20 some years. From Salathe to the likes of Pratt, Frost, and Chouinard, the Stonemasters, Croft, Florine, and Potter, on to Caldwell, Jorgeson, and Honnold, the Valley's climbing narrative will be told and legends will be enshrined in the immortality of storytelling.
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Tamara Robbins
climber
not a climber, just related...
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Apr 26, 2015 - 11:44am PT
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The edits were done by the discovery channel, and were because of programming time constraints....
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Apr 26, 2015 - 11:52am PT
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Thank you Ms. Robbins, yes the film was close to two hours original release and due to the number and length of commercial times there had to be compromise somewhere.
Give your Mom and Dad a hug next time you see them. They have always been so good to me whenever I've met with them. Any chance anyone will continue releasing his writtings? Always good reading. He's signed both books to me.
Peace
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Apr 26, 2015 - 12:43pm PT
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I just watched it. Really good.
Of course things will be lost when you try to cram everything into a 1 hr program (with commercial breaks), and the big empty spot was the 80's. Apparently nothing happened after '81, when the Stonemasters went off and got jobs and kids and whatever.
The biggest reason that we see so few 80's and early '90's stuff is because of lycra. I'm not kidding.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Apr 26, 2015 - 02:16pm PT
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Thought it was great. Easy to watch.
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Crump
Social climber
Lakewood, CO
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Apr 26, 2015 - 02:55pm PT
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I loved it and counted all the people I know and knew and counted each, but I would have loved to have heard Billy Westbay's name, even seeing him in several pictures. Alas, that is just me trying to connect threads of my own story to those great days.
It was really eye openning for me to be the jr partner with Mike Head and David Baltz on the 16th ascent of the PO in '81... I guess, one year after the end ot the Stone Masters time.
How many of you have been arrested and arrigned in US Federal Court in Yosemite?
I are one, and proud of it.
Cheers to all involved in making this story.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Apr 27, 2015 - 11:41am PT
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Nicely done. Very nicely done.
Apparently nothing happened after '81, when the Stonemasters went off and got jobs and kids and whatever.
Bwahahaha
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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Apr 27, 2015 - 12:36pm PT
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since there was a focus on free soloing I do not see how they leave out Peter Croft. That picture on top of Half Dome with Croft and Bachar is iconic. The passing of the torch from the Stone Masters to the next generation.
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elcap-pics
Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
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Apr 27, 2015 - 02:56pm PT
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I enjoyed the film... but you have to realize that it was about a few climbers taken from a much larger group of climbers, and was tightly focused on just those climbers who fit the profile that the film makers wanted to portray. The reason all the other great climbers of those eras were left out was that they didn't fit the profile of "uprisers". So Croft wasn't there, Porter wasn't there, Hudon and Jones weren't there, Gerberding and Stowe and so many more.. blah blah blah... the list is huge. They just were not the rebellious types the film highlighted.
I always thought the so called "Valley Christians" never gave Harding his due. Harding climbed the Nose before modern pins were available and thus had to invent stuff and as a result his gear sucked. The second ascent of the Nose took a week but that was after a revolution in nailing equipment, enabled them to do so, plus the fact that all the bolts were in place for them. Royal and boys quickly realized that the style required AT THE TIME of the first ascent was not the kind of climbing they wanted to do... so they sat and watched. I remember talking to Royal one time and asking him about the equipment issue. He said that when Harding started up the Nose he climbed it in the only way possible AT THAT TIME. So to compare Harding's first ascent to the 2nd ascent is like comparing apples and oranges, and they should not be compared using JUST THE DAYS IT TOOK.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Apr 27, 2015 - 03:01pm PT
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I was happy that they included the memoriom section at the end of the 2 hour film anyway with a few seconds of Frank Sacherer.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Apr 27, 2015 - 08:21pm PT
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Funny and irreverent - well done, I thought.
Geez, though - did anyone else get the feeling there is now a target painted on Dean Potter's forehead? It's like he would be the most sought-after bust in the park! Man, that was funny when he filmed the ranger who stopped him when he was driving!
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Apr 27, 2015 - 10:44pm PT
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... they didn't fit the profile of "uprisers". So Croft wasn't there ... Ridiculous logic, and dumb (movie) premise overall imo.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 27, 2015 - 10:48pm PT
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Maybe Peter didn't want to be in it.
They asked me.
I told them I have nothing to say and didn't want to be interviewed.
I believed all those other guys could say it much better.
I would have just said this is stooopid ..... :-)
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brodracula
Trad climber
hawaii
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Apr 28, 2015 - 01:24am PT
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It was fun to watch this movie.only wish they had focused a segment on freeclimbing a bit more.They should have had Shipoopi in his quilt(anyone remember that?)ha ha fun times.
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Tamara Robbins
climber
not a climber, just related...
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Apr 28, 2015 - 08:47am PT
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Ron Gomez - I will pass along your hello to the folks... there is indeed a possibility of at least one more book in the auto bio series, Dad's been dictating to Mom but I'm not sure how far along they are! Thanks for asking, and I'll let you know if it looks likely to come to fruition.
As to those who are concerned about the names that were left out of VU, having spent a good deal of time working with those guys i think i can safely answer that the omissions were purely a matter of time and space constraints. They had so much material and possible side stories that they made a call early on to focus on just a few from each generation - knowing that there would be some feelings of important peeps being omitted.... VU isn't meant to portray itself as a solid chronicle of Yosemite climbing - and much of the reception it's gotten is likely due to their having chosen somewhat colorful personalities to focus on....
Cheers!
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Apr 28, 2015 - 08:49am PT
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Werner, the photo's of you said it all....silence is golden and a picture says a thousand words.
Peace
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