Suicide by Airbus???

The airbus is a great plane

the Airbus Flight Control System is sometimes ambiguous to pilots

Saying the evil co-pilot deleted his facebook page a few days ago.

if there is such a thing...

controlled flight into terrain

Obviously none of you knew who was on board for this event to be made to happen ......

A Russian pilot stole an Antonov 2 airplane directed his aircraft into the
block of flats in Novosibirsk where his divorced wife lived.

Well, in this consumer-capitalist-socialist country, we want the cheapest flight we can find and assume the nanny state will make sure we get there alive.

The "nanny state" in North America, Western Europe, and first-World Asia is the only thing that does keep you alive when you fly.

a strictly On Topic guy

There is an external code pad that would allow a pilot to enter if in fact the co pilot was unable to open the door. He set the lock in a position that negated the pilots ability to open the door from the outside using his code.

wbraun wrote:
Obviously none of you knew who was on board for this event to be made to happen ......

A letter found in a waste bin in Andreas Lubitz's apartment indicated he "was declared by a medical doctor unfit to work,"

It will now be a requirement for there to be two authorized people in the cockpit at all times

Only in Europe or East Jibip do they put 600 hour n00bs in the right seat of
large planes. Clearly, being a n00b had nothing to do with this but a few
more years flying regionals might have brought out his unwholesome qualities
before he got a chance to take 150 people down with him. Also, only in
Europe would a captain leave the cockpit on such a short flight. In this
country if a pilot has to leave the cockpit then a male flight attendant is
supposed to enter the cockpit to prevent this sort of thing from happening.
In this country the captain would be terminated immediately for doing so
except when the aircraft is established at cruise altitude for an extended period.
Furthermore, in this country the pilots are forbidden to even talk about
anything not directly related to the safe conduct of the flight during any
phase of the flight other than during cruise.

Werner is it possible for you to merely say who was on the flight or what pertinent info the manual has?

Must you always play the omniscient mystic?

The secret to this mystery is in the A230 door manual.

A very rare person will see thru the illusion that was made when they study it.

The mystery was already presented and wiped and scrubbed with even the server hacked.

Us Americans will just remain the spoon fed zombie sheep ....

I reckon I'll go on flying.

NSA Backdoors in Crypto AG Ciphering Machines

The New York Times reports

two anonymous investigation officials for the scoop.

Mar 28, 2015 - 04:30pm PT
Big Mike

No need to hack anything.

Crypto AG has all the back doors access already installed.

NSA, CIA, banker cabal etc, has all the back doors from crypto ag.

You're getting lukewarm Mike .....

Tower takes control of the plane ...

Why is the German pilot yelling in English to his German co-pilot?

Has anyone heard the actual audio of the pilot yelling?

Why is the German pilot yelling in English to his German co-pilot?

DÜSSELDORF, Germany — The co-pilot of the Germanwings jetliner that crashed in the French Alps on Tuesday had been treated for “suicidal tendencies” before receiving his pilot’s license, the office of the public prosecutor in Düsseldorf said Monday.

The co-pilot, Andreas Lubitz, had been treated by psychotherapists “over a long period of time,” the prosecutor’s office said, without providing precise dates. In follow-up visits to doctors since that time, the prosecutor said, “no signs of suicidal tendencies or aggression toward others were documented.”

Society has to ask itself if the price of a mass killing from time to time is worth it.

The next psych med mass killing will likely again be be in a public place like a school or a shopping mall where it is next to impossible.

Psych drugs cause patients to go INSANE!!!! Let's not consider that fact that those patients are taking them because...um...they are already insane.

Medical privacy laws assured that no one was allowed to know dude felt like killing himself.

Mental problems should be on a publically searchable database. If someone's depressed, or *hearing voices*, or some sh#t, I want to know about it before I make the mistake of selling him a gun, or hiring that person to do anything important.

Society has to ask itself if the price of a mass killing from time to time is worth it.

He was truly a sick man if he saw all of those people board that he intended to kill.

As this thread so clearly illustrates, the general public knows little to nothing about these people - they are invisible. When I see the ignorance exhibited here, I think "Wow - I'd love to get these folks to participate in this forum with some first hand experience", but their internet access is spotty, to say the least. It wouldn't be good for them anyway - they get beat up enough just trying to survive.

Hey, zBrown, it's merely a coincidence that nearly every mass killer in over the last couple of decades were on psych meds?

Of the 7,244 fatal airplane crashes in the United States from 1993 through 2012, 24 were the result of aircraft-assisted suicide, the authors concluded in the 2014 study published in the journal "Aviation, Space and Environmental Medicine."


That's 0.33 percent, and they noted that most of these flights were private, not commercial.

Medical records indicate that Andreas Lubitz, the co-pilot who crashed the Germanwings plane last week in the French Alps, was on medications for depression, anxiety and panic attacks, including lorazepam, a tranquilizer that can have dangerous side effects, German newspaper Bild reported. Federal drug information advises that “patients receiving lorazepam should be warned not to operate dangerous machinery or motor vehicles” and that “in patients with depression, a possibility for suicide should be borne in mind.”

Lubitz, 27, was also reportedly taking an antidepressant, Reuters reported. He lied to his doctors, saying that he was taking sick leave rather than working and flying planes. When he resumed pilot training in 2009, he provided medical papers showing a “previous episode of severe depression,” Lufthansa, the parent company of Germanwings, confirmed Tuesday.

Lorazepam is a drug that is typically prescribed to treat anxiety that works by “slowing activity in the brain to allow for relaxation,” according to an information page by the National Institutes of Health. The NIH warned that the drug can be “habit-forming,” or addictive, and should not be stopped suddenly, as doing so can cause “anxiousness, sleeplessness, and irritability.” There are a host of side effects, including restlessness and blurred vision.

The Food and Drug Administration’s drug information page for Ativan, a brand name for lorazepam, noted that the drug’s effectiveness for long-term use -- a period defined as more than four months -- has yet to be clinically assessed. It remains unclear how long Lubitz had taken the drug. The FDA warned that “pre-existing depression may emerge or worsen during use of benzodiazepines [a class of tranquilizer drugs that includes Valium and Xanax], including lorazepam.” It highlighted as well that lorazepam can have an even more depressive effect depending on what other drugs are taken simultaneously. Brand names for lorazepam include Ativan and Lorazepam Intensol.

That is utter bullsh#t. Meds do not turn people into murderers. If so, produce the studies that indicate this.

You won't. There are none.

no Fear, you havent. you may have seen psychotics episodes, but you have no way of knowing what caused them. thats what science does, aint youve got none to back you up. and no, PCP isnt what we're talking about here. or glue huffing. irrelevant.

“Even at normal doses, taking psychiatric drugs can produce suicidal thinking, violent behavior, aggressiveness, extreme anger, hostility, irritability, loss of ability to control impulses, rage reactions, hallucinations, mania, acute psychotic episodes, akathisia, and bizarre, grandiose, highly elaborated destructive plans, including mass murder.

“Withdrawal from psychiatric drugs can cause agitation, severe depression, hallucinations, aggressiveness, hypomania, akathisia, fear, terror, panic, fear of insanity, failing self-confidence, restlessness, irritability, aggression, an urge to destroy and, in the worst cases, an urge to kill.” – From Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter # 296: “Drug Studies Connecting Psychotropic Drugs with Acts of Violence”.

One variable, Fear - in the complex life of a person? SSRI's have the same warning labels as cigarettes? Do you know anything at all about depression?

You really can't make this stuff up.

Keep your day job.

They could take over navigation systems.