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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jan 28, 2015 - 05:19pm PT
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We are going for 50 reviews in a week.
you mean we are.
Good luck, hope all goes well. I enjoyed the movie, will post a review later tonight.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jan 28, 2015 - 06:42pm PT
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I'm sure you're not interested in my review... which seemed to cause a flap when I posted it previously... so much so that I took it down since it was taken with such umbrage.
Good luck on your quest...
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jan 28, 2015 - 06:52pm PT
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Done.
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The Wolf
Trad climber
Martinez, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2015 - 08:36pm PT
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Better than Cats!
That's hilarious. I just watched the Sixth Sense and that is one of the best lines in that movie.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jan 28, 2015 - 08:53pm PT
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Do we have to watch it before reviewing it?
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 28, 2015 - 08:54pm PT
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Review what????
I drove by this circus almost every day going climbing.
Two guys went climbing on El Cap with a huge pile of gear.
The only reason it went viral is because some fools chopped their pitch and sh!t on their rope and heckled the sh!t out of em.
Then the two guys made it sound like every local climber was in on it.
"Valley boys" all were in on it.
Such bullsh!t. I had nothing to with that circus at all.
Then years later another two people did the second ascent while being filmed.
All while in those years tons of stuff was being done in that Valley.
Assault on El Capitan just small side show.
The name "Assault on El Capitan" is an insult.
Would you Assault your mother ....?
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Jan 28, 2015 - 11:10pm PT
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Wings of Steel would have been a way better title. I watched the movie and enjoyed it, so i'll roll over to amazon for ya.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jan 29, 2015 - 07:23am PT
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I am not a big wall climber, I don't know the history of this effort let alone in any detail, I haven't followed the Wings of Steel threads here at the Taco at all. That said, I am a climber and really enjoyed watching the film. I watched it last night on amazon. What I loved most of all was the soulful, very articulate and thoughtful philosophizing by everyone in the interviews that as a climber and overall adventure sports enthusiast I could totally relate to. What a great bunch of guys! Thanks for putting this together. Proud of you all!!
Highly recommend the film. I will recommend it over on amazon.
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I guess I missed Ed's review. It's hard to believe
though that Ed could cause a "flap" - esp about climbing!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 29, 2015 - 08:43am PT
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Anyone archive Ed s review?
I'll watch it on amazon & report
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jan 29, 2015 - 08:57am PT
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Can't view the trailer
It's in some strange video format
Why do websites use strange formats?
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DWB
climber
Madison
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Jan 29, 2015 - 09:31am PT
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Definitely will post a review if you send a free copy.
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Meaty
climber
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Jan 29, 2015 - 10:35am PT
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Lame movie full of hype and false narratives. As Werner said above and I've said here before, these two want everyone to believe all climbers in the valley at the time..., especially all on the rescue site, were involved in the circus. It's a pathetic hollow false narrative, same goes for calling this adventure filmmaking.
No one actually involved in that circus is in the film except Mark and Richard, that alone should make it clear how deep the deceit is trying to mold all the false narratives with a very selective cast leaving out anyone that might question their ridiculous one sided narrative. Very weak!!. Before this movie goes beyond 3 minutes the hype of "death threats" etc. begin, it's just horribly dishonest.
Many previous threads have hysterical reactions to posts here from people like me that were actually there, it's fun to watch all the squirming.
Expect the same usual suspects to repeat the foot stomping tantrums because folks that were actually there explain their side of the story and reject the hype like the absurd death threat jive.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Jan 29, 2015 - 11:54am PT
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Meaty, you should definitely post that on the review over at Amazon!
Laughed out loud at Werner. Just like watching paint dry, eh?
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The Wolf
Trad climber
Martinez, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2015 - 08:41am PT
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Some how some where in all these threads it gets lost that the film is about Ammon and Kait's second ascent. The controversy and first ascent is a thread in the larger story, it is not THE story, People seem to seize on the sub plot. Ammon and Kait's effort is minimized by this trivial pursuit of the controversy.
Werner: Circus? That declares that there were people standing around watching this act. If no one was there, it was just people doing something in solitude. It seems there was a virtual circus on this forum when A & K were on the 2nd. If it's all so meaningless, why did that happen? And we all just witnessed a true circus on El Cap. Was that a bad thing?
You declare the film which covers a lot of material including Ammon's life as a climber a slide show. What does that make the coverage of one of the hiker rescues you write about? A postage stamp?
Is the title really an insult? Double entendre missed? Satire missed? I guess you're insulted by The Great Gatsby and Apocalypse Now too. Gatsby not that great, and there was no Apocalypse.
I don't and won't defend the choices made while making the film. Reasons for every decision involve many factors. The origins of this film are complex and I have discussed them in Q&A sessions. I have discussed the title, the cast, the idea of the film and the production.
Meaty: Cameras are available. Make your own film, Tell your story. Your articulate writing and mastery of storytelling combined with your clear vision of what an adventure film is should make for a compelling film.
Like you I am a small business person trying to make a living. If you want to hire us to shoot it, we'll do it.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 30, 2015 - 08:51am PT
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You declare the film which covers a lot of material including Ammon's life as a climber a slide show.
Yes it's a side show.
On any given day there's hundreds of park visitors out doing something in the park.
They all have their own side show going.
You understand now?
I'm looking at the whole picture not just zeroing in on El Cap only like too many of these climber zombies always are.
And that is nothing against you, Mark, Richard, Ammon, Kate who are all good people .....
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The Wolf
Trad climber
Martinez, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2015 - 09:04am PT
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Ok, thank you I get it now. I understand.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Jan 30, 2015 - 10:05am PT
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I'm looking at the whole picture not just zeroing in on El Cap only like too many of these climber zombies always are.
Yes, there are so many things that go on in the park, our neighborhoods and the world that it could make your head spin. Late winter of 2014 I was climbing with a friend while my two other buddies were taking a day off (they did Watkins in a day the day prior, probably a cool story). They were hanging out in the meadows and heard a bunch of screaming, ran over and discovered a body of an obese guy floating in the river. His whole family was there yelling and pointing. His uncles were there on the side throwing up. So the guys jumped in and pulled him out. He was a really giant Latin dude and when they gave him CPR he had a bunch of alcohol coming out of his mouth. Paramedics came, he didn't make it. The body was packed into the car and the family left the scene with their life taking a huge hit. In 10 minutes there were tourists walking around taking pictures in the same area. No one aside from my buddies knew what just happened there. And the life goes on. Kind of sad if you take it all in. And yes, there are stories out there that are way more dramatic than a few climbers getting their ropes shitted on. Big f*#king deal. I am sure every other living creature had something worse happen to them at one point.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Jan 30, 2015 - 10:15am PT
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Holy crap, Vitaliy!
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Jan 30, 2015 - 12:04pm PT
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I don't see any connection between a possibly drunk person drowning in the Merced, and some climbers defecating on fellow climbers' ropes. One is an unfortunate, and probably preventable accident, while the other is a deliberate act fueled by hatred.
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Prod
Trad climber
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Jan 30, 2015 - 03:09pm PT
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^^^ Agreed, but in a big picture point of view, both are pretty meaningless.
Prod.
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A6demise
Big Wall climber
SLC,UT
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Kinda mis-leading title, but I watched it on Amazon, so I didn’t expect too much climbing.
All in all, I enjoyed it.
With that accent (and the name), I knew Aamon had to be from Utah. Kinda nice to get a bit of the back story on him as a up and coming ledgend. I know that he inspires me at least.
Good film, worth watching. Thanks for taking the time and effort to put it together and get it out there.
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Don Lauria
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Never met Ammon. Read about him occasionally here on Supertopo - reports on his injuries.
Now I feel I know him and that makes the film worthwhile.
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Jeff Gorris
climber
Not from Portlandia
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I gave it 2 thumbs up a few years back:
Jan 30, 2015 - 06:14pm PT
My review: Some people won't like it, but I did. Two thumbs up.
Uprated to 5 stars on amazon after I watched it again.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 14, 2018 - 07:54pm PT
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We need your reviews for Assault on El Capitan
Stop assaulting El Capitan.
Would you like to be assaulted?
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Aug 14, 2018 - 08:11pm PT
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I gave Wings of Steel a try, but it is way way WAY too hard for me! No way am I willing to take the fifty-foot falls required to work out the hooking - I'm afraid of falling.
"For years, I remained mystified why some of the guys were so cruel, unencouraging and acting like we had to climb in a way that they approved with."
I think this was a prevalent attitude amongst the Yosemite "Locals" in the 80's and 90's, certainly I witnessed it when my Post-Divorce Renaissance began in 1995. Tomas Humar - one of the greatest climbers the world has ever known - came to Yosemite in '98 with the intention of soloing Reticent Wall, and nobody would even give him a topo. [I did, complete with annotations after we climbed it] :) Good ol' Tomas - with his bone-crushing handshake - sent the Reticent in great style.
The Valley seems a lot more accommodating and welcoming these days - folks seem to encourage each other more I think, and the Locals are far more welcoming to outsiders. I always try to be - but I am merely an "itinerant local".
Thoughts?
Cheers, and see yous on the bridge this fall for beers, eh?
P.S. ATG - you really need to need this post, a very compelling finale to the whole WoS story, where the "shitter" apologized and was forgiven. Real Men, for sure.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1689566&tn=0&mr=0
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Aug 14, 2018 - 08:34pm PT
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I think what Werner and others are saying is that it is so easy for an outsider to have a bad encounter with one or two locals, and then just label everyone else as being more or less the same way, even though everyone is different, and no one person really represents fully or even partially what the "local climbers" think and feel.
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Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
sawatch choss
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Aug 15, 2018 - 09:54am PT
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Repost review:
Gollum vs. dweezil(s). The dweezils come off better.
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Rollover
climber
Gross Vegas
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Aug 15, 2018 - 09:58am PT
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ATG^^^
Were their names Kevin and Charlie by any chance?
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