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shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 22, 2015 - 10:35am PT
I just wanted to give big kudos to tc and kj for pulling off what is undoubtedly the hardest rock climb in the world. there is certainly no multipitch route in the world that comes close to comparison. Twelve pitches of 5.13, and 7 pitches of 5.14(3 at 5.14+). its absolutely gobsmacking.

Tommy's vision of putting this together is amazing. he has told me he likes big projects, so...there you go. he has been free climbing el cap for almost 20 years now, is the only person in double digit number of free climbs on el cap, and this route could only have been put together by him and nobody else in the world. it took an incredible blend of genetics and upbringing(his dad, Mike, is a climbing guide and was an elite bodybuilder), combined with plain dumb blonde stubborness(3 full on attempts over 4 or 5 years) and luck(it usually rains and snows bigtime in Jan in yosemite). i could not be happier for his role in bringing the valley to the forefront of world class climbing.

as for KJ, that's a nice advancement from somebody known primarily for their highballing. Seriously, when kevin worked with us touchstone route setters back in the day, we knew he was going to be good...but not THAT good. and way to go doing the dyno, not that pussy loop thing that tommy did, LOL.

its pretty amazing to me that two people were good enough to both do the route free. i thought tommy would ultimately fail on it with a jug bunny/belayer. not that i didn't think tommy could do it, but that the route is hardly ever in climbable conditions when it is cool enough to do 5.14+. (that's why they were climbing at night in the middle of winter).

the euros will be catching up for a long time

Steve Schneider, big wall poser from oakland, ca
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jan 22, 2015 - 10:38am PT
Good on ya Steve. Way to share some positive vibes.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Jan 22, 2015 - 10:38am PT
the euros will be catching up for a long time

Yup, forever.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 22, 2015 - 10:39am PT
siht Yeah WHAT SCHneIDER, said, Toatally Titz men great Job!!
splitclimber

climber
Sonoma County
Jan 22, 2015 - 10:39am PT
nice post Steve.

BTW - there is no "N" in Kevin's last name, but many make that mistake.

at least you didn't spell it Jorgelove. :)
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Denver, Colorado
Jan 22, 2015 - 10:43am PT
+1. This endorsement, and the recent one from John Middendorf, mean a lot.
Under Achiever

Trad climber
Los Angeles
Jan 22, 2015 - 10:56am PT

Funf out of funf Alpenhornen, für sure!
shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2015 - 10:58am PT
split climber how do you spell keven's last nasme? i'll put in an edit to my op
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Jan 22, 2015 - 11:08am PT
Jorgeson. I don't think you can edit thread titles, though.

Great post, Steve!
kenny morrell

Trad climber
danville,ca
Jan 22, 2015 - 11:58am PT
Hey steve - your right about the euros playing catch-up!
shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2015 - 05:50pm PT
mister e, that is how i spelled it, but splitzee says that was wrong. ss
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jan 22, 2015 - 06:17pm PT

They sure deserve it. Congrats on a futuristic send!
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Jan 22, 2015 - 09:08pm PT
Nice writing, Steve. You Real-ly have a Nose for what's going down on the Big Stone.

Speaking of which, when are we climbing? And how's your shoulder. [don't make me sneeze]
Gagner

climber
Boulder
Jan 22, 2015 - 09:47pm PT
Nice play on words Pete...😉

Hey Steve - Monga Bona!!

Has arse!!
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Jan 22, 2015 - 10:10pm PT
What is Monga Bona? I've heard that somewhere else.
steveA

Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
Jan 23, 2015 - 04:48am PT
Great post, and nicely said!

I only met TC once in the Valley, and immediately liked him. He seemed like such a nice, friendly guy, and quite humble.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Jan 23, 2015 - 06:03am PT
Congrats!
couchmaster

climber
Jan 23, 2015 - 06:07am PT


Bravo to both those dudes. Quite the feat. However, I suspect there are 10-12 year olds climbing in gyms now who will be graduating outside soon enough to repeating this free. The next generation never ceases to amaze. I don't think Robbins et al ever thought people would be running up the Nose in a morning. Currently, look at Honnold. As far as Euros not catching up, thought it was the reverse. Anyone else see Leo Holding climb the Prophet? Climbing A4 free ground up no added bolts? That was a few years back, so I can't speak to the "catch up idea".

Are brits even Euros?

shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2015 - 10:39am PT
brits ARE euros, and they ain't gonna repeat this thing anytime soon, either. although i would be the first to meet them on top with cold ones if they proved me wrong.

while a great effort by leo holding and jason pickles of UK, there is not a single pitch of 5.14 on the prophet. dawn wall has 7 pitches of 5.14, 3 of which are 5.14+, all three of which are way harder than any other pitch in yosemite.

the dawn wall is exponentially way harder than any other route on el cap, because only three other routes have any 5.14 climbing on them, the nose, magic mushroom, and the dihedral wall. and these are ONLY 5.14a pitches, of which there is only one pitch of this grade on these routes(maybe two on the nose).so...

THE DAWN WALL versus NOSE, DIHEDRAL, OR MM
7 pitches of 5.14, including 3 of 5.14+ versus a single pitch of 5.14a
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 23, 2015 - 11:42am PT
Those boys did push the bar up a notch or three.

Steve, good post.
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:05pm PT

Wow. Last night, Tommy Caldwell and I were awarded Honorary Memberships to The American Alpine Club, which is the highest award they have to offer. It is given to individuals who have had a lasting and highly significant impact on the advancement of climbing. I believe the last time the honor was given was to Lynn Hill. Tommy and I have had very little time to reflect back on the #DawnWall since topping out 2.5 weeks ago. Standing on this stage, side by side with one of my closest friends and personal heroes, was the first time the impact of our climb has sunk in. Thank you to everyone who believed and supported us throughout the 7 year journey. Photo @brady_robinson. #whatsyourdawnwall #aacdinner15
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:56pm PT
I told Tommy myself last night, and then introduced him to lilabiene.

Partied at the Regency. Flew home in my tux shirt and black jeans.

Got here for half time.

Messner wants some of my Harding relics, but the bat tent goes to Yeager.
(I introduced the two, Ken dug it.)
PhilG

Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
Feb 1, 2015 - 08:10pm PT
Great thread, Steve.
Way to focus the community on the center of the fire!

Beyond my knowledge of words to describe what Tommy and Kevin were able to accomplish.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Feb 2, 2015 - 07:21am PT
Wow, those dudes do clean up nicely. Somebody must have sent them to the dry cleaner. And Whoa!, rock hard in a tux... Look out ladies.

Congrats, again, team.

Shipoopoi, nice post. I was wondering if there were other pitches in Yosemite that got a 5.14+. I know Meltdown got .14c and to my knowledge it was the previous hardest.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 4, 2015 - 11:12am PT
Plant foreman my ass. There were a dozen or more tuxes there, but everyone was looking really sharp, especially Tommy.

Must've been the smile.
scuffy b

climber
heading slowly NNW
Feb 4, 2015 - 11:18am PT
Honorary membership is highest award?
Ron, couldn't you talk them into joining?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 4, 2015 - 11:20am PT
I quit over a decade ago, but I thought that the Underhill was the highest award.
Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Feb 4, 2015 - 11:55am PT
The word "awesome" is overused, but is appropriate here. Nice going, guys. We started it, but you finished it. I can't imagine improving on what you did.

WM
Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Feb 7, 2015 - 08:15am PT
Last night I was flying home with a colleague who is not a climber. As we were waiting to board, he asked me if the climb those two guys did in Yosemite was as big a deal as he thought it was.

Simple answer: "Yes."

It is always hard to imagine what thing is going to expand the possible.

In Yosemite: Sentinel, Lost Arrow, Half Dome, The Nose, NIAD, The FFA of the Nose, and I am predicting The Dawn Wall FFA.

Pretty cool

As an aside, I don't think we have a single defining short free climb, a speed climbing record, or a free solo in our history, just the most recent ones.

Congratulations to Tommy and Kevin
dhayan

climber
los angeles, ca
Feb 7, 2015 - 08:46am PT
How bout Bachar soling Nabisco, Croft - Astroman, or Honnald - Half Dome?
Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Feb 7, 2015 - 02:07pm PT
Or
Peter Haan solos Crack of Doom 1971 (I think '71)
Henry Barber solos the Steck/Salathe 1973
Charlie Fowler solos Direct North Buttress of Middle Cathedral Rock 1977
John Bachar solos Nabisco Wall 1980
Peter Croft solos North Face of the Rostrum 1985
Wolfgang Gullich solos Separate Reality 1986
Peter Croft solos Astroman in 1987
dhayan

climber
los angeles, ca
Feb 7, 2015 - 03:30pm PT
Wow I didn't realize Barber did that in 73. I see your point though. I haven't been climbing very long so can't speak from experience on how these soloing feats were defining in the same way as the seminal free climbs. But at least in my mind, the solo of Astroman and half dome really stand out.
Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Feb 7, 2015 - 07:33pm PT
Wait until Alex free solos Freerider or Golden Gate

And then in some future time we cannot comprehend, someone free solos the Dawn Wall, and no one then can quite figure out why we all choked up on 14 January 2015 at 3:30 pm...or was it 1915.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 25, 2015 - 04:21pm PT
Today's Denver Post headlined. . .

http://www.denverpost.com/outdoors/ci_27593440/obsession-impossible-led-climber-tommy-caldwell-dawn-wall
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