Crimpergirl'a op-ed article in the New York Times

That rape is more common amonst the economically and socially "disadvantaged" is not news.

Kind of odd that that the only metric for rape cited in this article was income

I would be frightened to know the statistics if these and all the other unreported cases were be tallied.

But for my purpose this underestimation was unimportant since it was constant and therefore would not affect the relative differences between groups.

We have to stop blaming and shaming survivors, and to start holding perpetrators accountable.

The one risk factor that remains consistent whether women are advantaged or disadvantaged is age, and women ages 16 to 20 are sexually victimized at the highest rates.

I know it's true because Crimpergirl's research verifed what I already know to be true.

Most of your variables are ways to quantify power (education, wealth, age)

It sounds like Rennison and Gillibrand need to hash it out.

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A Campus Accountability and Safety Act makes no sense to me.

Hope that helps

Callie, good work! I hope your studies help to open more dialogue about the issues of violence, especially sexual violence, against women in this country

Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 22, 2014 - 05:36pm PT
It's in today's paper. I figured someone would have posted up on this by now. I love the NYT op-ed section. It's a pretty big deal (Ron Burgundy big) to get published here.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/22/opinion/who-suffers-most-from-rape-and-sexual-assault-in-america.html?_r=0

Congrats Callie. That is a real honor and an important message too.

I am not surprised at your general results. But I am surprised that your study is one of so few. Quantifying a problem is critical.

Thanks, Greg, and extra big thanks to Crimpergirl.

Proud Crimpie!

There's been a great movement in the past few years to bring better education and understanding about the realities of rape and sex crimes against women. Of course it had to start with high-profile cases revolving well-loved college fraternities, but the ball got rolling and it has been both refreshing and saddening to see so many women come forth with stories and help to other victims.

There aren't many women in my circles who have not been abused or molested. I've spent more hours staring stone-faced at the floor while a happy and vibrant human lets me in on a darkness that they fight daily. I know our world is getting better, and things are getting better, but things are bad - REAL bad. Even in the best societies.

For the life of me I can't imagine doing those acts - not that I'm some kind of saint, I've sinned enough for a lifetime or two - but there is something innately despicable about forcing yourself on someone and taking their innocence that goes beyond my understanding. As my youthfully ignorant eyes are opened I am overwhelmed by the reality of the damage and the heart of the survivors.

Thanks for the link, I loved it. A great perspective.

Wow. Great and timely OP ED Callie. Right on!



Greg's comments are interesting- a few days ago, in another thread, someone derided the person who got their stuff stolen from their truck for not adequately securing their stuff- as though this person was somehow & to some degree mutually complicit & to blame for losing their stuff to some scumbag.

My impression of that position at that time brought me to the same viewpoint related to rape, esp. as in college environments. (I didn't bring it up at that time as it seemed too hyperbolic of a comparison.) There is a disturbing, real point of view out there that victims of rape who dress a particular way, drink too much, or say something in a particular way, are therefore complicit in what happens to them.

This point of view makes me nauseated....that it could possibly exist and somehow seem acceptable to anyone in our supposedly 'advanced' society. Greg's right...things are still bad out there.

Way to GO, CG!

Thanks Eeeyonkee for sharing. I'm glad folks are enjoying the piece. It's a shame that sexual violence continues to be a terrible problem here in the USA, but happy it is receiving increased attention. Hopefully that will make a difference.

Well done!

Nice work, Crimp!

Good work, Callie.
Good framing with the recent interest in sexual assault at colleges.

Do you have a PDF version of a paper where you go beyond
one-variable stratifications (which are the right starting point).
I am thinking you probably estimated a logit model where age and the
other factors are all considered at the same time,
and see what comes in as most significant after age.
Although it would quickly get too technical for an op-ed, probably.

Awesome stuff, Callie.

Way to represent!

Brvavo!

Good on ya crimpie. That must have been a hard piece to write.

Wow, Crimpie, you have arrived!

Glad you shine a light on this topic. At the high school where I teach (60% qualifying for free lunch) an enormous fist is coming down on social media harassment and sexting. Males and females are equal offenders no matter the race or social class. With so many suspensions and law enforcement penalties, kids are finally "getting it." Schools all over CA are being sued for turning a blind eye.

Had my friends and I not taught Maya Angelou's I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings recently, we wouldn't have had girls come forward to report their molestation resembling the protagonist.

Change is happening to protect teens.

I'm very proud of Callie's hard work on this :-) We had sushi for dinner to celebrate - yum.

Brava! Callie, good work! I hope your studies help to open more dialogue about the issues of violence, especially sexual violence, against women in this country. We seem to have more than our share of it in this nation.

So glad to see the work you are doing, thank you
feralfae

Testify!!!

Clint - I sent you a PM. Let me know if it doesn't arrive.

the rest of the night off, mkay?


:) Thanks Reilly - will do. :) And thanks to the rest of you for your kind words.

Excellent! Thanks for a great article.


Susan

Callie that was an awesome piece. Thanks for the hard work you did to get it published :-D !!!

Outstanding work, and well-deserved recognition, Callie. I, too, would be interested in any multivariate statistics. While it doesn't surprise me (sad to say), it still saddens me that sexual assault and rape are two more indignities that the poorest women experience disproportionately.

John

This is important work and it's fantastic to have the opportunity to get it out to such a wide audience through the NYT.

Congratulations on the work and the high profile publication.

Congrats. Strangely enough I was just wondering the other night what you'd been up to.

Congrats on the national media exposeure for your research. Hopefully there will now be more attention on this horrible situation.

Kind of odd that that the only metric for rape cited in this article was income---- but not all that surprising, given that we are talking NY Times here.

That rape is more common amonst the economically and socially "disadvantaged" is not news.
Who funded this eye-opening revelation? Not the taxpayer I hope.

Why do you feel that in responding to a survey...

I was curious about your thoughts about which group would be less likely to report RSA to a survey and why

Anyway, the article starts with a real life example of an intoxicated female going into an 18 year old freshman's dorm room, undressing, and climbing into his bed. You can guess what follows, but 9 months later she accuses him of rape and he is ousted from the university without trial. Come on, we can do better than that.

I was curious about your thoughts about which group would be less likely to report RSA to a survey and why. And your reasons for why you think one group would do so to a degree that would affect rates. I'm quite open to others' ideas - that's why I asked.

And it seems that testing for it is impossible since we'd have to rely on what they say.

I'm curious about citizenship status and reporting, the Dreamer group of females in particular.

I LOVE survey methodology research

Why hasn't the topic of rape been addressed directly here in an ST thread in the past? (Or did I miss it?)

The one risk factor that remains consistent whether women are advantaged or disadvantaged is age, and women ages 16 to 20 are sexually victimized at the highest rates.

This age group also has the highest rate of abortions. i'd like to see the stats of who voted for this legalization. don't be surprised if the highest percentage came from men in this age group.

Former Army private first class Katie Weber said she was raped by another soldier when she was 18 while posted in Nuremberg, Germany. She tried to report the attack but was told, “in the same breath,” that it didn’t really happen and that she was not to tell anyone about it, Weber said. “When I told another official,” she recalled, “they said I was ‘jumping the chain of command’ and that I was probably ‘just really confused and a little slut.’ ”

The first is a real societal service, and thanks Callie for contributing to that!

Sex is perhaps the most powerful of human motivations.

But for my purpose this underestimation was unimportant since it was constant and therefore would not affect the relative differences between groups.

Young women arriving at college have widely been socialized to be friendly and likable, which can blind them to the aggressive advances they might encounter at a party