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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Nov 23, 2014 - 05:20am PT
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Wasn't Seasaon the capital of a southeast asian country?
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 05:27am PT
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I promise you, there is nobody who can help me.
Why is it exactly you have a problem with people shooting animals for no real reason versus shooting themselves and each other. That attitude seems pretty arrogant. Has it ever passed your thoughts that maybe humans are not quite as special as we seem to think we are?
You could ask Dick Cheney, he apparently has a dim view of lawyers. Are they in season?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 23, 2014 - 05:40am PT
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Do you know that the culprit was actually there hunting for no reason?
You don't.
There is no reason to assume, as the police and coroner know, that the incident was accidental until there has been an official autopsy/investigation.
You've jumped the gun, Mother Superior.
Gobble-gobble.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 05:48am PT
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Nope, I didn't jump to anything. My point is simply that I don't understand why it seems so important to kill critters that are just wandering around for no good reason.
Hunters somehow seem to always either be shooting themselves, or accidentally shooting their partners. I find a lot of irony in that.
There was a classic a few years ago. Some idiot set up one of those Deer Blinds in a tree. It collapsed, he fell 20 feet to the ground, lay there for a day, and bear came by and tore the sh#t out of him. He lived, bearly (he he he he).
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 23, 2014 - 05:54am PT
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Then thanks for explaining that.
One is entitled to one's opinion on anything.
We do agree to an extent on lawyers: some lawyers "deserve" to have bounties placed on them, but they are "officers of the court," remember, so that won't fly.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Nov 23, 2014 - 05:58am PT
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i don't mean to ruin the moment, rlf.
but you got food on your face.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 05:58am PT
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We are in agreement.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 05:59am PT
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Nope, no food on this face. I expected exactly what was coming.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 23, 2014 - 05:59am PT
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Let's throw some pies, guys. Make mincemeat of the hunting clan.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 06:00am PT
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officers of the court
Yeah, that could be a problem...
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 06:01am PT
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Naw, no pies. They appear to have a penchant for bullets.
I'd say DUCK, but then you are guaranteed to get shot.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Nov 23, 2014 - 06:19am PT
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 06:38am PT
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That's good!
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 07:01am PT
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Are you vegan?
That's a definite no! Yes I'm well aware of where "meat" comes from.
Yes, I have heard tales of roadside hunters. Pathetic.
Another classic happened about ten years ago. Some hunter d#@&%e bag is pulling his loaded shotgun out of the back of his station wagon barrel first. The trigger caught on something and he blew his head off.
He won't make that mistake again.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 07:08am PT
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Yup, what's the lesson here.
PAY ATTENTION.
Again, nobody seems to want answer my question why we as humans are so much more important than the nature that surrounds us?
Some idiot is driving too fast, spilling coffee in his lap, and loses it and takes out somebody else. This is a tragedy. But blowing Bambi into a million pieces is hunky dory.
There is a serious conflict of interest.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Nov 23, 2014 - 07:18am PT
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For me the most wonderful time of the year is when the drum circles start in the Hemingway lot.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 23, 2014 - 07:29am PT
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This thread has wonderful potential.
Perhaps something of an offset to the dozens of already existing GunNutz threads...or even more directly, the 'Quail Hunting Appreciation' thread...
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Chewybacca
Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
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Nov 23, 2014 - 07:32am PT
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Haha, yeah I should probably be more careful with my wardrobe choices.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
in the oil patch...Fricken Bakken, that's where
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Nov 23, 2014 - 07:37am PT
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Deer taste better than humans.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nov 23, 2014 - 07:43am PT
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Humans raised solely on grain from birth could be a whole new culinary experience. Raise a deer on junk food and see what it tastes like.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 07:44am PT
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As humans we are well aware of that fact...
That has to be one of the most delusional comments I have heard in years. Surprising since I know how intelligent you are.
And to the person who apparently missed my comment about food, I understand exactly where food comes from. Hunting season is not necessary. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere.
Don't even get me started on the "importance" of culling and controlling populations, we created that problem. If anything needs to be culled it's humans.
People running around dressed in camouflage shooting themselves and each other is the perfect irony.
That's what I call a natural balance.
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Chewybacca
Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
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Nov 23, 2014 - 07:44am PT
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I shot this buck 4 times over the last two years. Don't know what he tastes like.
I'm glad he is protected.
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grover
climber
Northern Mexico
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Nov 23, 2014 - 07:45am PT
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Desert tortoise tastes better than deer, right rlf?
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rincon
Trad climber
Coarsegold
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Nov 23, 2014 - 07:48am PT
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"I will never understand the reason hunting is so much fun."
I don't understand people who bag on hunters for shooting cute little deer, but then are perfectly happy to eat meat from inhumane factory farms.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 23, 2014 - 07:49am PT
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I don't understand why people don't see a difference between hunting bambis and being a meat eater.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Nov 23, 2014 - 07:49am PT
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Good morning Robert. Getting an early start today I see ;-)
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 07:51am PT
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Deer taste better than humans.
I don't think I want to know how you made that distinction.
"It put's the lotion on it's skin, or it gets the hose again".
Hmmmm...... And people are telling me I need help....
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 07:53am PT
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That's what I love about you Rob, you know how to pour fuel on the flames!
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 07:55am PT
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You don't think the human race is aware of the fact that without "Nature", we WOULD NOT be???...
That is exactly what I think. The vast majority of people on this planet not only don't understand this, they could care less.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 07:57am PT
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Deer taste better than humans.
Now that your mention it, it's an interesting way to deal with trespassers. "Hey, I was hunting!"
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 08:00am PT
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Well locker, I'm busy trying to survive too, but I am also very aware of my surroundings, as are you. Most aren't, and could not be bothered to do so.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 08:04am PT
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Crawling up rocks isn't necessary either.
Life would be awfully boring if it were constrained to what is necessary.
Well I certainly can't and won't disagree with you there, but as a general rule climbing doesn't involve killing each other or animals for no real good reason.
Don't bother with the arguments about climbing accidents etc, I ran SAR for the NPS for 7 years. I know the drill.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 08:06am PT
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No comparison to what I was referring to...
Well actually there is. You claimed that people are to busy to be aware of their surroundings etc. I merely pointed out that most of them could really care less.
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10b4me
climber
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Nov 23, 2014 - 08:12am PT
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I agree one hundred percent with your sentiment, Robert. That's why I support the right to arm bears. As to hunters who accidentally shoot themselves, or other hunters, that's the price of playing the game.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 08:42am PT
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Hmmm. This site is loaded with semi-autistic people with very serious reading comprehension skills.
If you honestly think that I believe that meat, chicken, fish or anything else just magically appears, check your meds. You're either out, or you forgot to take them. It's probably a combination of both.
I simply find hunting stupid unless you need to because you live in a very isolated area. I also find it highly entertaining that people are running loose with guns trying to kill things that do not need to be killed, but end up shooting themselves or others.
It's pure irony. If you don't understand this, then don't play along. I'm sure there's a hopscotch game somewhere missing a participant.
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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Nov 23, 2014 - 08:46am PT
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rlf wrote:
"Personally, I will never understand the reason hunting is so much fun. I tend to like watching animals while they are still alive. What I do love about hunting season is the number of people who either shoot themselves, or shoot their partner."
Hahaha, sort of like when a rope soloist has an equipment malfunction or a climber takes their partner off belay and that person falls to their death.
Hahaha. Really funny. Love it.
Now go back under your rock, troll, and eat some acorns.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 08:48am PT
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My my. The tender rectums are out in force this morning. This is no troll. Since you haven't been playing along, try actually reading the entire thread. I ran SAR for the NPS.
You are mixing apples and oranges. This was addressed earlier. I know it's difficult, but try and keep up.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 08:50am PT
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But I need meds? Awesome. You sir, must surely be the epitome of morality.
Apparently you do. Nope, no morality issues here.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nov 23, 2014 - 08:53am PT
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People getting shot....an inherent risk of the game they play, pretty hard to get teary eyed about it.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 08:56am PT
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Thank you Jim, you apparently are one the few who not only have a sense of humor, but also has a firm grasp on reality.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
in the oil patch...Fricken Bakken, that's where
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Nov 23, 2014 - 08:58am PT
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I think you should mind your own .gd business, Robert. It doesn't concern you, obviously.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 08:58am PT
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Sorry johnnyrig, but you must have suffered a head injury. Working SAR means that I witnessed the aftermath first hand. I've dealt with the grieving friends family etc. You know not of what you speak.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 09:02am PT
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Look, I'm not going to do a Hooked On Phonics lesson for you. Clearly you cannot comprehend the topic at hand. Just stick to your crayons and coloring book.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Nov 23, 2014 - 09:04am PT
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Seems clear as crayola:
Hunters shooting themselves? Funny to you.
Climbers getting injured? Tragic to you.
No?
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Nov 23, 2014 - 09:16am PT
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Recreational gun f*#kery kills and injures lots of people as well.
Be careful out there rlf.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nov 23, 2014 - 09:23am PT
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Tragedy can be easily averted by requiring every hunter, climber, anyone participating in a risky activity, to be an organ donor.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 23, 2014 - 09:48am PT
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You ever tried it?
It may be more challenging than you think.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 10:06am PT
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The organ donor thing reminds me of a story:
Years ago, I had just renewed my drivers license and filled out my organ donor card. My girlfriend had just dumped me and I was very butt hurt. About a week later I got pulled over by the CHP for speeding. He asked for the usual license, insurance etc. He starts smiling and is desperately trying to keep from laughing. He then says to me "Mr. Fonda, you can't donate your girlfriends organs in case of your death". I had completely forgotten that I did this.
He let me go with only a warning.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 23, 2014 - 10:36am PT
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rlf is a die-hard.
sticks to his guns.
will not go ballistic under duress.
clint eastwood stock.
masqrerading as a SNAG
he wouldn't hurt a stag.
a guy with a real hart.
rescues PEOPLE for money.
but hunters, no way, honey.
let 'em bleed.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 23, 2014 - 10:38am PT
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now he'll be gunning for me.
but mice are out of season.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nov 23, 2014 - 10:47am PT
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But cats are always on the prowl.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 23, 2014 - 11:04am PT
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gotta love their jargon.
I shot a double birdie.
But that's an eagle, too. You're busted, federal crime. Fork over the keys to your 4WD golf cart, sir.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Nov 23, 2014 - 11:05am PT
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I worked in the booth at a trailhead which is used by hunters this season, and was surprised when one told me he never loaded his rifle. He goes ut there, to be alone and commune with nature, and for SOME reason, just doing THAT isn't accepted in his circle. So...he goes out hunting and gets the last laugh when his "sporting friends" make fun of his bad luck.
Another couple of men, they come out nearly every weekend starting in August, just to look around These men are archers, and yet in the several years they've been coming, they haven't once brought out a deer. These guys spend money on all the accoutrements, too, but something tells me that if one moved away, the other would not be back the next year. It is their time to spend as friends.
As for most people being aware that humans are NOT better than animals, I would disagree. I would go so far as to say that the VAST majority of human beings DO believe the human is dominant. Look at the way they throw away pets. Look at the way they run over animals o the road when just taking their foot off the pedal would be enough to avoid the poor thing. Look at the ones who INSIST animals cannot reason... science supports this, they will tell you.
No....MOST people do NOT realize that we humans are not superior to the other animals.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 23, 2014 - 11:21am PT
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One difference between your "golfing" and hunting, T Hocking.
If you miss, it's always to late to yell "Fore!" if you are hunting.
My club went off in my hands a lot when putting, though; I did this many-many times, rolling the ball way the other side of the cup.
Bulls-eye, Locker!
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Nov 23, 2014 - 11:52am PT
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Killing for pleasure is the sign of an inferiority complex or psychosis.
Killing to eat is natural. Vegans kill plants.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Nov 23, 2014 - 12:04pm PT
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With regard to veal, torturing something before you eat it is bad juju
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Nov 23, 2014 - 12:15pm PT
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I don't do veal. Fortunately, never developed that taste.
Did anyone else see the article about vegetarianism and killing sentient beings?
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/ordering-vegetarian-meal-there-s-more-animal-blood-your-hands
Yes, it's more applicable in Australia where their cows are naturally grazed, but is still something to think about.
Hunting.... My dad still hunts both bow and firearms. Rarely takes a shot anymore, does it more for the experience. I miss it too. Sitting in the woods just relaxing, watching and listening with no distractions is something most people just don't get to do these days. I'd kill for a crisp evening in my old deer stand, just chillin'.
Edited: I didn't realize this was an anti-hunt thread. Those stories about people shooting themselves are the equivalent to climbers who die climbing.
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Braunini
Big Wall climber
cupertino
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Nov 23, 2014 - 12:28pm PT
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Doesn't get much more Berkeley than this
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 23, 2014 - 12:31pm PT
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"This site is loaded with semi-autistic people with very serious reading comprehension skills."
Ummm...yeah. YEAH.
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franky
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Nov 23, 2014 - 01:24pm PT
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Troll. It seems there is a force field around Joshua Tree that reduces IQ by twenty points if you stay there too long ;) Even "running NPS SAR" can't help (god knows what that means, probably an outright lie)
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Nov 23, 2014 - 01:30pm PT
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Life feeds on life. This is the way it works. Try eating rocks and see where that gets you.
Would it be ironic if you were killed by a bear for no good reason?
You really should let the mountain lions know they shouldnt be killing poor defenseless animals too. Those as#@&%es usually go for the weak ones too. That isn't very sporting is it.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 23, 2014 - 01:58pm PT
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The deer where I live just keep multiplying. It's to the point now where it's an infestation. The coyotes have figured out that when it's wet they can chase the deer out onto the pavement where they lose their footing. Then it's mealtime. Too bad it's almost never wet here anymore. Sooner or later they'll have to tranquilize 'em and truck 'em away.
I had one fart at me up by the Needles recently. Seriously. I was hiking up to Voodoo Dome. Not the White Punks freeway, but further right. As I climbed up through the woods I kept driving a bunch of deer up ahead. Finally one of the buck's waited for me. When I was getting close he turned away and let one fly. rrrrrrrip. A solid 10 seconds, and it stank!
A couple months ago I came home to a big circle of blood on my porch. There's a hose there, and it looked like someone had tried to clean it up and failed. Investigating, I noticed a blood trail and bloody boot prints coming down from a deck at the far end and running the length of the porch. Bloody deer prints too. I deduced that someone had killed a deer in the woods downhill of the house-most likely with a bow or crossbow-then chased the thing up through my woods over the deck and onto the porch where it died. Then they must have driven up the driveway (800 ft. of windy one lane) and stashed it in their trunk. Their attempt to clean up the evidence was pathetic. The cops decided it was an animal kill. I asked since when do animals wear boots?
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 23, 2014 - 02:01pm PT
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Now I see the incredible disconnection that hunting represents. I am also now a vegetarian.
I hope you self-righteous carrot-eating types realize that hundreds of millions of cute fuzzies are killed every year during the clearing of land to feed you.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 23, 2014 - 02:30pm PT
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Proud to be an omnivore.
I shot a sparrow once, aimed at rabbits, missed, and never hit another thing, so I stopped going out "in the field."
I took to slaughtering trout by the hundreds, but they were stocked in urban lakes just moping, hoping for some corn.
I've since stopped fishing, too. If you have to catch and release to soothe environmental consciences, why do it? Ut causes the fish unnecessary problems, is as pointless as climbing with aid, and costs just as much as if you kept them and ate them.
I've NEVER had a fish taco, a McDonald's fish fillet, nor that nguoc mam fish-head sauce from Indo-China, as it was once known.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Nov 23, 2014 - 03:05pm PT
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Again, nobody seems to want answer my question why we as humans are so much more important than the nature that surrounds us?
Animals kill animals for dozens of reasons. You must think humans are special if we have to follow some special set of rules not in place for every other species.
People who think humans are worse than other species just need to learn more biology. Find me any other species on earth that cares for more than just its own and you win. Humans are the only ones... (symbiotic relationships don't count)
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 03:32pm PT
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rescues PEOPLE for money.
Sorry mouse, nothing could be further from the truth. JOSAR is and always will be an all volunteer team. I was putting in close to 2000 hours a year. Not one dime ever came my way, but I can assure plenty of dimes came out of my pocket during that time.
I liked your poem though. I just had to clarify one point.
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Josh Nash
Social climber
riverbank ca
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Nov 23, 2014 - 03:44pm PT
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I used to feel that hunting was rather strange. I never really knew any hunters growing up. Then I moved to an area where a lot of my co-workers hunt. I now understand the draw. A good deer can put healthy meat on the table for quit a while.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
in the oil patch...Fricken Bakken, that's where
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Nov 23, 2014 - 03:55pm PT
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Lame thread. Poor execution, worse wording and expression.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 04:03pm PT
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Hey, if you wanna hunt, hunt. I can understand that there are those who are broke and are having a tough time putting food on the table. I understand that there are people who choose to live very remotely hunting for food.
But the truth is, that's not most hunters as far as I've seen. And, these are the people who seem to constantly end up shooting themselves or others. I find rampant stupidity funny. Oh well.
If you can't even follow even the simplest of concepts like THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN UNLOADED WEAPON, oh well.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Nov 23, 2014 - 04:06pm PT
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Grew up in the Dark Corner of Northwestern South Carolina.
We were taught there were two types of hunters - credit card Hunters who stocked up on anything sold by Cabela's who then stormed around the woods hungover hoping to shoot anything that moved and then there were those people that for whatever reason had no choice but to kill to put food on the table.
The first group were considered azzholes and looked on with disdain. The second group were considered backwards and somewhat pitied but still accepted as legitimate.
In either case, it's damn easy to crow about killing when the last 3 or 4 generations have lived with easy access to prepared game merely by picking up a Cryovac'd package of industrial meat with no thought as to who "hunted" that pig, cow, lamb or chicken.
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MisterE
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Nov 23, 2014 - 04:13pm PT
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Robert finds humor in things that often make the general populace uncomfortable. His brand of humor is not for everyone, especially the PC crowd.
I am usually amused, and have found no exception here!
Thanks rlf!
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Nov 23, 2014 - 04:16pm PT
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Now now Locker, don't be baiting him...
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Nov 23, 2014 - 04:24pm PT
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^^^^ true that. Ricky D
I grew up in Western Pa in a hunting and fishing culture. I went through the same progression of fishing and hunting gear as my brothers. My first gun was a pop gun, then BB, .22 then a 30.06. We had a gun club in school and regularly carried our gun to school on club day. I regularly shot small game, pheasant, Turkey's (from our back porch) ducks etc. I shot my first deer at age 16. That ended it for me.
Indeed, the first day of hunting season, the Monday after Thanksgiving was a school holiday as Kos mentioned.
Eventually even my Dad gave up hunting as he saw all the city Yahoo's come into town and shoot anything that moved...cows, farmers, bears, their buddies. Then when they'd bagged something with their high power scopes, approach it and decide it wasn't big enough they wouldn't tag it. You'd typically get one tag a season and you had to blood it. He saw scores of carcasses left behind. The local motel would have 30 or more deer carcasses on outside racks they set up for the city slicker hunters.
Most disturbing to me was bear hunting which my family never did. The bears in the Pa woods are not very bright, lumber along and serve no purpose to kill them in modern times.
I do miss the taste of truly wild turkey and venison and other small game. I have bought venison from time to time but I visualize its gone the way of turkey. Domesticated on farms to the point of turning white! Just not the same.
I suppose hunting culls the herds...but to not use what you hunt and only mount it just doesn't resonate with me anymore.
Susan
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 23, 2014 - 04:24pm PT
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There were 36,393,788 paid licenses and tags issued in the US last year.
You are statistically more likely to die falling out of a chair than a hunting accident.
14 million licensed hunters does provide ample statistical room for idiocy.
in N Arizona cows are known by their Indian name "slow elk"
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 04:24pm PT
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Hey, kill whatever you want. I just think that the recreational hunter is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. There isn't any good reason for it.
I'll say it again, if you really need to do it, and it's your source of food, go for broke.
My grandfather hunted when he was a teenager building our cabin in Big Bear with his father. There was a small general store, but as he put it, "it generally didn't have much." So, they hunted to feed themselves while they were working on the cabin.
It's the "sportsman" hunters that seem to be routinely killing themselves and others.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Nov 23, 2014 - 04:27pm PT
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A turkey shot by a hunter in the wilds had lived a much better life than the one on your table on Thursday.
Those "poor little critters minding their own business" are cute, sometimes cuddly and certainly delicious.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 04:28pm PT
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Ya can't argue with that. By the way, I've been to a slaughter house. I'm very aware of what's on the table.
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ruppell
climber
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Nov 23, 2014 - 04:31pm PT
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I find rampant stupidity funny.
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Leggs
Sport climber
Made in California
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Nov 23, 2014 - 04:32pm PT
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I've not read one bit of this thread, but love the fact the word SEASON is f*#king spelled incorrectly.
Carry on.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 04:39pm PT
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You should have read my first post. I acknowledged that.
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Leggs
Sport climber
Made in California
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Nov 23, 2014 - 04:40pm PT
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I've not read one bit of this thread, but love the fact the word SEASON is f*#king spelled incorrectly.
:)
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 04:44pm PT
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Hey, you're not gonna hurt my feelings! I had one of those Homer Simpson moments just as I was posting it!
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Leggs
Sport climber
Made in California
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Nov 23, 2014 - 04:47pm PT
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I love me some Homer!! (and I have those moments ALL time.)
I personally adore when I send out a business email and sign off:
"Love, Lisa Mae"
DOH!
:)
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Captain...or Skully
climber
in the oil patch...Fricken Bakken, that's where
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Nov 23, 2014 - 04:53pm PT
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You don't get it. That makes you the dumbass...you poor fool. Lose the broad brush.
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Nov 23, 2014 - 05:00pm PT
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Were yinz nearby?
Prolly jes dahn the road!
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 05:14pm PT
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I love me some Homer!! (and I have those moments ALL time.)
I personally adore when I send out a business email and sign off:
"Love, Lisa Mae"
Oh I can top that one. My wife and I always say "love you" at the end of every phone call. My friends make fun of me by saying "love you" all the time.
But what makes this bad is when I'm talking to a client and end the conversation with "love you", only to realize what I just said, and the awkward silence on the other is all about.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Nov 23, 2014 - 05:16pm PT
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Hey Susan, I grew up east of Pittsburgh. Were yinz nearby?
Yup. Sorta ... more up north in the hollers of Bradford.
Susan
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Nov 23, 2014 - 05:24pm PT
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My oldest sister moved to the big town of Bradford!
Further east for me. Pine Creek valley.
Where I grew up Hunting,Trapping and Fishing For Sustenance.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 05:34pm PT
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Well, that's an interesting perspective...
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 23, 2014 - 05:36pm PT
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Nope, I didn't jump to anything. My point is simply that I don't understand why it seems so important to kill critters that are just wandering around for no good reason.
Hunters somehow seem to always either be shooting themselves, or accidentally shooting their partners. I find a lot of irony in that.
There was a classic a few years ago. Some idiot set up one of those Deer Blinds in a tree. It collapsed, he fell 20 feet to the ground, lay there for a day, and bear came by and tore the sh#t out of him. He lived, bearly (he he he he).
This guy's gotta be a mega troll... I bow in honor...
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 05:59pm PT
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hile I appreciate the "bow in honor", honestly there is nothing but sincerity in this thread from all sides.
Lot's of varying opinions, lot's of different stances etc. No harm, no fowl (couldn't pass that up), just lot's of very entertaining banter.
Carry on.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 06:01pm PT
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I always gawk in amazement at the "hunters" with their $3K rifles complete with scope sight that makes the Hubble Space Telescope look like Wallmart reading glasses.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
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Not a 100% sure who you are Jim, but you definitely have a "bead" on me.
Comedy in it's purest form...
We are both glad to be of service!
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 06:13pm PT
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We are animals and cannot be superior to ourselves...
I can't agree with you more on this locker, but I do stick to my guns that most people are not smart enough to even consider the concept. Which brings us full circle to my original point, these are the very people running loose during hunting season shooting themselves and/or others.
I'm sorry, I find evolution entertaining.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 23, 2014 - 07:16pm PT
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In the Ahwahnee Hotel, where pate de fois gras is normal fare and the onion soup is just friggin' awful since Lauren left.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 08:17pm PT
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Well, maybe he can hold his breath for a real long time.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 23, 2014 - 08:29pm PT
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"My point is simply that I don't understand why it seems so important to kill critters that are just wandering around for no good reason.
Hunters somehow seem to always either be shooting themselves, or accidentally shooting their partners. I find a lot of irony in that. "
Down with these. And I love bacon, too.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 08:36pm PT
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Bacon is very yummy.
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franky
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Nov 23, 2014 - 10:24pm PT
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Irony- a Joshua tree climber calling any other sport pointless.
Can you defend your sport to a hippy-hating redneck who laughs at idiots who hurt themselves after falling off twenty foot tall boulders?
What is so hard to understand about gravity?
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HF
climber
I'm a Norwegian stuck in Joshua Tree
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Nov 25, 2014 - 07:35pm PT
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Irony- a Joshua tree climber calling any other sport pointless.
Can you defend your sport to a hippy-hating redneck who laughs at idiots who hurt themselves after falling off twenty foot tall boulders?
What is so hard to understand about gravity?
Apparently you don't know RLF or anything about him (other than the fact that he is amused by "hunters" shooting themselves and each other) if you compare him to idiots that hurt themselves after falling off twenty foot tall boulders.
HF
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