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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 18, 2014 - 03:40pm PT
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where nutrition, calories, weight, bulk and ease of use are all important. There should be a lot of collective wisdom here....let's hear it!
Some of my thoughts:
Zero and i mean 0 freeze dried food. Not nearly enough calories. I think you use more energy digesting that crap than you get from eating it.
Starbucks Vias for coffee....expensive but soooo convenient.
Protein dish for two....cook two "boil in bag"s of brown rice in a jet boil. They just fit and while it takes ten minutes, very little fuel is expended during cooking (super low flame keeps water boiling). Add aluminum foil packaged tuna or salmon, spices and some shredded parmesan (available in light packaging) and, voila, a feast fit for a.......well, bivouac anyway.
Peanut butter in plastic jars....tons of calories and protein.
Let's hear some more ideas.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Nov 18, 2014 - 03:42pm PT
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Clif Bars are all you need!
Whoops. Edit to add the most important foods...
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Captain...or Skully
climber
in the oil patch...Fricken Bakken, that's where
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Nov 18, 2014 - 03:47pm PT
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Olde E's have a stack of useful calories. . .hey, I've got priorities.....;-)
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Nov 18, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
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Halva. Basically tahini + sugar in a stick/bar form. High caloric density, delicious, no cooking.
Straight shots of olive oil. For skinny folks like me, sleeping warm in the alpine is tough. One shot of oil before bed is better than an extra 20 degrees of rating on the bag IME. That fat being metabolized is like a furnace in your gut. Any fat-heavy food will work.
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rmuir
Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Nov 18, 2014 - 03:50pm PT
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Two raw spuds are contraindicated.
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Nov 18, 2014 - 03:53pm PT
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cheese, salami, crackers, dried fruits, chocolate, peanut butter. of course that is besides the coffee. no alcohol for me, just lots of MJ
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2014 - 03:55pm PT
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In a cold bivy I am definetly on life support until i get some coffee.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Nov 18, 2014 - 04:07pm PT
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In a cold bivy I am definetly on life support until i get some coffee.
I love coffee. But not on long, cold trips. In a cold bivi what I want is hot mint tea with lots of sugar. Or, even better, dump a package of jello into hot water.
The other thing that got me through a lot of really nasty cold nights was wrapping a water bottle full of boiling hot tea (or jello) in a pile vest or sweater and taking it into my bag. Usually down by my feet. Stays warm for hours, and knocks the edge off the cold. And gives you a hot drink in the middle of the night.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2014 - 04:16pm PT
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There's another thread going....does somebody want to add whitemeat to this list?
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Frozenwaterfalls
Ice climber
California
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Nov 18, 2014 - 04:19pm PT
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I also rather like salmon, though I do backcountry "sushi" by cooking rice and bringing along smoked salmon and then wrapping up in seaweed and a cucumber if I have it early on in the trip. I also bring a lot of miso soup since I am always in a state of dehydration and between the water and the salt in the stuff and the fact that it doesn't upset my stomach when basically my stomach is always upset at elevation is a good thing. I also can drink Milo made with powdered buttermilk by the gallon.
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Byran
climber
San Jose, CA
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Nov 18, 2014 - 04:51pm PT
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Tortillas are good because they don't get squished. Eat them with a block of cheese. Raw cookie dough for desert. Tastes good, calorie dense, no stove or utensils necessary.
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Nov 18, 2014 - 05:05pm PT
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Salami and hard cheese (and a creative cook-thanks cuz!) ftw.
I also like to make a stack of French toast the night before a long day-light (though bulky, but that goes away over time), easy to eat on the go, takes abuse in a pack well, and oodles of calories.
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Nov 18, 2014 - 05:19pm PT
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Jim,
How about some SPAM.
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selfish man
Gym climber
Austin, TX
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Nov 18, 2014 - 05:23pm PT
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dry salami for weight efficient calories. Starbucks Via for coffee. Honey Stinger chocolate waffles to brighten my day. Scotch.
Agree about freeze dried foods: because of the lower boiling point of water they are impossible to rehydrate at altitude
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Nov 18, 2014 - 06:23pm PT
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repost from another thread:
For cold weather, try Carbonara bars:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=682333&msg=2472392#msg2472392
12 oz. Turkey Bacon, chopped and cooked
1 stick of butter
1/4 cup olive oil
1/2 cup pine nuts
4 eggs
1 pound of dry pasta (in my case , 4-year old whole wheat spaghetti)
1/2 cup grated parmigiano reggiano (got the block in Italy last year, covered in blue patina now)
brown the bacon, melt in the butter and add oil. brown the pine nuts to taste. boil the pasta, strain, add to the mix. add 4 eggs, stirring constantly.
Dump the entire mix into a blender, until mashed into a putty. Spread out in pans, put in freezer until firmed up. Slice into portion-sized bars. Hot weather they become flaccid, but perfect for cold days.
then there's always this:
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Nov 18, 2014 - 06:24pm PT
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The chocolate covered cherries sold at Trader Joe's are quite a treat on frozen days. Perfect mixture of sweetness and bitterness and choco-fat.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Aurora Colorado
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Nov 18, 2014 - 06:29pm PT
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Put one of these 99 cent curry packs in boiling water, with a bag of instant rice. The Karl Baba variation includes a handful of peanuts and raisins. And obviously, a hot sauce like sriracha. It's called dal bat and what they eat in Nepal every day.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Nov 18, 2014 - 06:34pm PT
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Donini! Four of us prospered on a diet of nearly 100% Freeze-dried food on our 1976 25 day venture into Alaska's Hayes Range. Towards the end, we would add less water and whatever we had in spices, to make the glop textured and more tasty.
Note the empty food packages in this Bivy photo. The photo, but not the bivy, was somewhat staged, since Camp 7 was a sponsor.
I think we were each eating two two-man entrees for dinner by that time.
Now when I eat freeze-dried foods: my guts nearly explode, because my 65 year old stomach can't digest that stuff.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Nov 18, 2014 - 06:52pm PT
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I actually enjoy Kraft mac and cheese with vienna sausages. A little butter and powdered milk is easy enough to bring. I never make the stuff at home but somehow it seems really good at camp.
Another favorite is a box of Stove top stuffing and a big can of Turkey mixed in (or Tuna works) again some butter... MMM Flavor
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FluxAdventures
climber
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Nov 18, 2014 - 06:57pm PT
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All depends on the weight you can carry. Depends if you have a climb or just hiking. Often during the climb you loose a lot of calories, so eat something that is easy to digest and has lots of calories.
For hiking, cheese will keep you running but dry fruits have to be on your menu Always.
http://www.fluxadventures.com
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SeaToSky
Mountain climber
Vancouver, BC
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Nov 18, 2014 - 07:28pm PT
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It always depends for me on the length of trip and what we are doing…..but in general I think there's value in not totally changing your diet on mountains days which can lead to problems for the gut. I like packing some leftover pizza from the night before into a large Ziploc bag. I like pita chips and Gouda cheese (the little red wax ones) -- Pita chips and these cheese bites go well together as little sandwiches. Dark chocolate. Cliff Bars and Gu's.
But sometimes it's just a cliff bar day when weight is a concern:
And in basecamp….mac and cheese mixed with tuna and butter is always a hit.
Joe
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Nov 18, 2014 - 07:50pm PT
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big fan of miso soup
on a little hill in Alaska I met some Japanese climbers who had topped out and offered me their rice -- just put hot water and eat. It was insanely, otherworldly good. I haven't been able to find it since.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Nov 18, 2014 - 08:27pm PT
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Pre-toasted bread from your local mexican store
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
Nevada City
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Nov 18, 2014 - 09:40pm PT
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^ I like some pre cooked plastic packaged bacon that I don't have to refrigerate, is very light and compact that I have found at Grocery Outlet. Super cheap too.
I am also am a big fan of just plain dried mango. Not the sweetened crap. Very light and packable also. Super easy on the stomach on the go at altitude even if the stomach is under durress. Tastes even better the higher you get up. Some nutella and /or home made moosegoo in a squeeze tube on salty crackers, or Ak Maks or tortillas is pretty killer also.
And I have recently been turned onto packaged packets of Miso soup as well. The boil some water and add to it the contents kind. Hot, super light weight, not a ton of food content, a tiny bit of protein or dried vegetable content; but with lots and lots of salt; usually tastes amazing, easy way to hydrate, and they weight like nothing and hardly take any space. Or powdered Gatorade, extra calories from the sugar and electrolyte replacement. Gotta keep that salt balance.
I often eat a dinner of quinoa/coucous with green lentils/mung beans mixed up with a package of tuna and a variety of seasonings. My go to cheap fill your stomach not your bear can/pack dinner.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 18, 2014 - 11:23pm PT
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Eulachon and berries.
But more seriously, the original high end Pemmican was made with dried Buffalo that was pulverized and then melted fat and some dried berries or cherries were added. It would last for years and had all the stuff to stay alive in a pinch.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Nov 18, 2014 - 11:43pm PT
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Banana bread and peanut butter. Nomnomnom. As Donini suggests packaged tuna is nice for added protein. Regular ramen works well for me. Cheap and tasty. I put a lot of water in it to hydrate. Lately I bring a pack of ramen, tuna and trader joes Indian food. You mix it all up in two dishes with plenty of fluid and there is plenty of protein, carbs and nutrients. And it tastes good. If weight is a factor I'd skip the Indian food.
BiOTCH, Bimbo and Fanny were the way to go when I was in Peru.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Nov 19, 2014 - 12:44am PT
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For myself ,nothing made of grain , the gliadin and gluten will make me dopey and slow ---as well as compromising intestinal absorption of more valuable nutrients. No nuts such as peanut butter with other food---the phytates will tie-up mineral/electrolytes and prevent their absorption. I prefer sunflower seed butter consumed as a snack separate from other food.
High protein stuff is good like salmon, as someone mentioned. For critical energy I would take along Medium Triglyceride Oil (MCT) This would provide instant energy without provoking insulin release, thus avoiding sugar spikes and crashes.
Of course, any kind of fruit or veggie is cool, as well as meat and saturated fat. Some dark chocolate for dessert.Plenty of hot coffee.
But...that's just me.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 19, 2014 - 06:37am PT
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A lot depends of what you want: do you wanna eat well or save weight?
Once you make that determination, the answer becomes easier.
If you want to save weight, then freeze-dried foods are the only way to go.
I prefer to carry the extra weight and eat well.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2014 - 06:52am PT
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Hell Cragman....i may vote like a Bay Area democrat but i sure as hell don't eat like one.
On alpine trips it's calories first followed by fat and protein....you have to keep the motor running. I have good endurance but close to 0 fat reserves.
Back home, i follow a more balanced, healthier course.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Nov 19, 2014 - 07:01am PT
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Payday bars.
Snickers in winter. Cold at night? Eat a Snickers and you won't be.
I'm a huge fan of potted meat.
Ramen noodles are divine after a few days out there.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 19, 2014 - 07:26am PT
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Power bars and beef/salmon jerky while moving. For multi-day trips freeze dried is my first choice for the end of day meal.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Nov 19, 2014 - 07:46am PT
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Gret Thread Jim! What a cool resource. I love the dichotomy between the Ol Skool dudes and the New School Kids. Cans of beans and potted meat vs. Rice cakes and whey spread.
I prefer the finer things in life while in the mountains.
West Ridge of Conness this summer. I've brought caviar and gouda with a few jalapeno stuffed olives to every summit in the past few years.
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ClimberDave
Trad climber
The LBC, CA
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Nov 19, 2014 - 08:43am PT
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I typically have trouble eating at altitude so planning my food is usually the most time consuming part of planning/packing for a trip.
Dinner for me If im just boiling water I will typically start with some sort of dehydrated meal. There a few from Mtn House I can stomach, my fav is Lasagna I will eat one by myself. Also have quite a few good meals from http://packitgourmet.com
Another fav is Stovetop stuffing with either a pouch of chicken or turkey (when I can find it) will add a bit of turkey gravy mix and some dried cranberries, and add boiling water to it all.
If it’s a trip that I am willing to cook on then will bring a Knorr pasta side dish, powdered whole milk and real butter (fettuccini alfedo is good) and add a pouch of chicken or tuna.
For lunch bagels are durable with a pouch of peanut or almond butter and jam, or Nutella , cream cheese and salami, hard boiled eggs.
Then will bring snacks that I can munch on, good dark chocolate, Snickers bars (or some sort of candy bar) hard candies like Jolly Ranchers, blocks of cheese, usually cheddar and/or parmesan, and also salami, crackers, a can of Pringles chips, a homemade mix of nuts, crackers like Goldfish, pretzels or Cheezits
If weight isn’t too much of an issue a fresh fruit or vegies are a treat, tomato and avocados are great on a sandwich.
Also have been experimenting with these refillable squeeze tubes http://www.rei.com/product/696007/coghlans-squeeze-tubes-package-of-2
Filling them with guacamole, it lasts a few days as long as you keep the air out of them, its always a treat on bagels, tortillas, chips or straight out of the tube.
When its cold some sort of instant soup or ramen, peppermint tea or hot chocolate (goes well with bourbon) is always nice
Always start the day with coffee!!
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 19, 2014 - 09:03am PT
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I dunno but over 15k I can't digest fats very well at all... Nuts absolutely kill me. So it's heavy straight carbs for me in MH freeze-dried pouches (repackaged to save weight) and GU.
Always GU.
Even down to -40 it remains pliable enough to chew like gum.
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Andy de klerk
Mountain climber
South Africa
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Nov 19, 2014 - 10:23am PT
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Nov 18, 2014 - 08:16pm PT
Ramen
Oatmeal
Nuts
Raisins
Chocolate bar.
Bag of fig bars.
Slim Jim. ( no pun intended )
Tea.
Flask of courage.
Nice one WTF
Eat when you get down
You're there to climb!
AdK
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 19, 2014 - 10:25am PT
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Just curious what it's like to be so low body fat and be out of food.
Unpleasant.... Or so I understand.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2014 - 10:25am PT
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Low body fat and no food is even worse than high testosterone and no women. As the Pennsylvania Dutch are fond of saying..."lovin don't last, cookin do."
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darkmagus
Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
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Nov 19, 2014 - 10:30am PT
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salami, bacon, miso soup, dried (pitted) dates, lots of "hammer gels", mountain house pasta always works...
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Nov 19, 2014 - 11:26am PT
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I recall that turkey has the highest amount of protein per unit weight among the different meat options.
Maybe a good dense treat would be turkey, dates, olive oil, and butter in a blender. Vary the ratio of olive oil and butter depending on the target temperature (sort of like choosing surf board wax).
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Nov 19, 2014 - 11:50am PT
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One guy i talked to swore to go really light in cold weather, he would bring a peanut butter and butter mix and smear it on warmed up tortillas or pita bread. Sometimes he would just chow on the pound stick of butter. Loads of fat and calories, but sounds a little off to me. Anybody else do stuff like this?
Macadamia Nuts are expensive, but calorie dense. I make my own "energy" bars, they are kind of like Laura bars. I cut them into chunks that are about 250 calories each.
I like the rice and cheese stuff, or mac and cheese with olive oil as a base, then add whatever else looks good to me at the time (Usually some kind of fish) with capors if I have the cash. Asian style jerkey is nice and usually has some fat on it. I think the main theme here is fat. Warmed up tortillas and pita bread is good. Stores easy usually.
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hellroaring
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Nov 19, 2014 - 12:48pm PT
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Dehydrated is different from freeze dried I think. Was under the impression that dehydrating retains nutrients while freeze drying does not. We make up thick soups & stews. Really yummy stuff like N. African Cauliflower, Spicy Tomato, even sweet fruit based soups. Because they r thick you can spread them out to be dehydrated, then run through a coffee grinder to break down, and then stored in zip locks. We put that nights dinner in a wide mouth bottle.with a little water to soak alll day and then add boiling water to the "paste" for steaming hot tasty soups. Also did mashed potatos with lots of butter and then dehydrated, throw in some dehydrated veggies and a powdered gravy mix and it's quite yummy...this stuff weighs next to nothing when dried.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 19, 2014 - 12:52pm PT
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Breakfast: Need some high-calorie foods with plenty of protein the jump-start the day. I like oatmeal with some heavy breads with nuts. I prefer to make my own "protein power breads."
Lunch for me an all-day grazing project. Bags of snack foods high in protein and pure unadulterated sugar. I have to constantly eat all day to keep going. "Lunch" is more of a prolonged rest stop than a meal.
BITD we had gorp, which was a mix of nuts, candy, and crackers. That gave you sugar, starch, protein and salt.
I also like candy bars for carbohydrates and protein, Skittles for a pure sugar rush to get up that last steep hill, and some beef jerky that I make at home with a dehydrator.
I swear by Gatorade for hydration and to prevent cramps.
Dinner should be a liquid-rich meal for additional hydration (stews) with plenty of carbohydrates and proteins (and fats if you're not a high altitude). Lots of drinks like Gatorade.
For food seasoning, consider bring a mix of salt (sodium chloride) and "No Salt" (potassium chloride) to prevent cramps.
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ddriver
Trad climber
SLC, UT
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Nov 19, 2014 - 12:54pm PT
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Starbucks Vias for coffee....expensive but soooo convenient.
The Folgers variety of these are plenty just as good and cost about 1/5 of the Starbucks. Throw in a Swiss Miss and you have mocha java caffeine and calories.
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ddriver
Trad climber
SLC, UT
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Nov 19, 2014 - 01:15pm PT
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Here's an idea: sometimes heavier is better. Prepared foods in foil pouches, e.g. Indian or Thai, are readily available, very tasty and reasonably nutritious. We carried a bunch of these into the Bugs this summer so we wouldn't have to deal with "cooking" at the end of the day if we didn't want. We even took precooked rice pouches. Just heat and serve. If you can't heat them you can still eat them and get hydration.
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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Nov 19, 2014 - 02:36pm PT
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Oatmeal cookies turn into granola over time, so they come along.
Fig newtons have electrolytes in them - nice for the muscles. I have been known to take just a package of fig newtons for a weekend trip.
Lots of votes for peanut butter with bagels, dark bread, pancakes, antyhing.
We like to make our own granola -heavy on the nuts, with honey nut cheerios, M&Ms, dried carnberries, dried apricots, and honey dried pienapple - tones of calories in a small space.
When weight is not a concern, we will take a meal and vacuum seal it. You can toss that in a pot of boiling water. Beef stew, chili, ziti in meatsauce all hold up well.
Take any dried soup and some noodles or ramen, and you have a good instant meal.
My fovorite meal ever was on a trip to Whitney. We broguht a fishing pole and caught trout at the lakes. So we only carried some noodles, non-stick spary, and a pich of seasoned salt. Best trout I ever ate.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Nov 19, 2014 - 03:33pm PT
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I love mac and cheese in the mtns. Macaroni, Campbell's instant cream of chicken soup package, walnuts,olive oil, and cheddar cheese. I'm running hot. For breakfast organic mashed potato flakes and elk jerky and some cheese. Or hot Familia muesli. But I'm hungry in a couple hours and farting the rest of the day. Lunch is what ever I can come up with but Luna blueberry bars are always a hit. Smoked salmon and avocado in a tortilla is standard on shorter trips. We have a food drier so for expedition type trips we always spend alot of time drying. Spaghetti sauce made into spaghetti leather is great as is green chili. Dried elk burger is a good addition to everything at dinner. I don't do the freeze dried thing. They don't weigh anything it's true but they just don't work for me. You have carry to much toilet paper to offset the weight difference.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Nov 19, 2014 - 03:43pm PT
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1 lb penne pasta
1 small jar calamata olives
2 tbs capers
4 tbs olive oil
1 cup feta cheese
1/2 package fresh spinach
So good you'll kiss the cook. Even if its your smelly, bearded bad breathed climbing partner.
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Nov 19, 2014 - 03:54pm PT
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oh yeah, another thing I bring a lot is instant mashed potatos. the "loaded baked" has some descent flavor going on. top with cheese.
by the way, chedder lasts a long time as long as it is kept out of the sun. I wrap my food in my puffy to keep it cool.
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MisterE
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Nov 19, 2014 - 04:10pm PT
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We Breatherians don't need no stinkin' food!
;-)
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 19, 2014 - 04:29pm PT
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Buttery Goodness:
Buttery Goodness
Buttery, creamy, sweet, melt-in-your-mouth, wonderful, goodness!
It doesn’t get old, even after eating it regularly for 10 months. 10,000 calories can fit in a gallon-size ziploc. It lasts for weeks of hiking (at least in Alaska’s climate). Eating just a handful, you can consume an amazing number of calories in a very short space of time. And like all perfect foods, it packs as many calories as possible into a tiny weight and space. Don’t you want some buttery goodness?
Buttery Goodness Recipe:
4 pounds butter (salted)
1 canister regular oats (2lbs, 10oz)
1 ½ pounds brown sugar
Half a spice jar of cinnamon (less if fresh-grated, more if the jar’s really old)
Mash up butter, then mash in oats, then mash in sugar and cinnamon. Fingers work best, utensils can be used if you’re more couth than me. Don’t let the butter melt. If you like, add extras like dried fruit or nuts. Divide mixture into 2 gallon ziplocs. Keep cool. Makes about 4 person-days of food, if the person’s days involve many hours of physical labor.
For easier use in below-freezing temperatures, break into chunks and roll each chunk in oats before putting it in bags. Will be good up to about 70 degrees or so, but its lifespan is reduced in warmer temperatures.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2014 - 04:34pm PT
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So many recipies, so little time. I hope all this info results in a better culinary experience for folks clinging to the side of mountain without even a P F Changs in sight.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 19, 2014 - 06:16pm PT
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Somen and Soba both make good quick cooking substitutes for pasta.
Any kind of soup for a first course to rehydrate and get the sodium up.
Another vote for Miso, but all of the Knoor soups are good to. They also make a good base for a thicker soup or stew.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Nov 21, 2014 - 11:06pm PT
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this should be fun without looking anything up just molting in strong bear and going to be a soccer dad tomorrow....
when I was heading out I plan
weeks go into food planning as the needs of many have changed the amounts and preparation time to set some parameters. Three nights and four days car to truck not
a loop gig.
Twenty veggie meatless balls Falafel like but bland Twenty meatballs made well cooked.
,all frozen in groups of five. Some rice mix . bread sticks small bag getts smart balance.
peanut butter hazelnut butter,nuts and gorp mix. Maybe freeze dried pouches MRIs a can or two ravioli, soup or fish.
Trader joes bars,brownie oat, granola chip two types of fruit bars.Fresh veggies sticks, apples
oat meal, coffee choc.powder, powdered egg/milk powder
water
well now let's see what essentials boozebudchoclate I will be without?
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