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apogee
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Oct 29, 2014 - 10:32pm PT
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Without Bumgarner, you guys would be suckin' Dodger Dogs.
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Ed Hartouni
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Livermore, CA
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Oct 29, 2014 - 10:36pm PT
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whatever...
seems like they have Bumgarner... and the championship, congrats Giants!
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apogee
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Oct 29, 2014 - 10:37pm PT
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Sandoval goes free agent next year...buh-bye!
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Roughster
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Vacaville, CA
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Oct 29, 2014 - 10:39pm PT
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We'll see about the Panda. The Giants have a tendency to hold on to players due to loyalty and willingness to shell out the $$ to hold those who contribute. Not saying its a for sure thing, but I would say odds on favorite is he stays in SF.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 29, 2014 - 10:40pm PT
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Sandoval playing the hot corner in Fenway?!
oh yah!
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2014 - 10:40pm PT
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Without him they wouldn't win? Hahahaaha why can't Dodgers win with Kearshaw? 3 in 5 years baby! Wooooooooohhhhhoooooooo!!!!!
DODGER SUCK!!!! Richest team in baseball can't advance past the first round. What a shame. ;)
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apogee
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Oct 29, 2014 - 10:41pm PT
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Sandoval & Big Poppi would be the team to watch, that'sfershur.
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briham89
Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
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Oct 29, 2014 - 11:05pm PT
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haha
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2014 - 05:43am PT
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Postseason at Dodger stadium ;)
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 30, 2014 - 06:12am PT
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be careful vitality ur actions could get u deactivated!
go giants..great game..kc can eat sh#t..
p.s godogerblue!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oct 30, 2014 - 06:13am PT
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Nothing like being a gracious and classy winner eh V?
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Oct 30, 2014 - 07:07am PT
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Spotted on Northbound I-5 and HWY 1.
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Under Achiever
Trad climber
Los Angeles
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Oct 30, 2014 - 08:57am PT
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Ouch.
But respect to the Hated Ones.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Oct 30, 2014 - 09:03am PT
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V... I can see that your one of THOSE Giants fans.
I have been a fan of the Dodgers as long as I can remember ( black n white TV watching Jaun M.... pound Jonny Roseboro with a bat)long.
One of the most courious things about the SF LA rivalry is the sometimes poor sportsmanship of Giants Fans.
When the All-Star game is hosted in SF.... you guys boo all and any players who are not GIANTS, when its in LA, all star players get standing oviations. Quite a diference in attitude.
If you really mean "EAT S%IT Dodgers" like you say..... well i guess it means that your not really a fan of Baseball at all. Just a bandwagen fan who will stop as soon as your team has a loosing season.
I find that pretty sad.
I take my hat of to the GIANTS, they Kicked ass all season long.
The Dodgers played em hard, cause the WESTERN DIV is the best Div in the game. The best steel comes from the hottest fire.
When giants went to the world series,this year and any year, I was rooting for them all the way, cause thay are western div. Just like I rooted for the Padres when they go.
Baseball is like climbing, its best to have a sporting atttude and appreciate the brillinat deeds that these gifted players deliver.
Enjoy the celebration, see ya next season.
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Levy
Big Wall climber
So Cal
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Oct 30, 2014 - 09:06am PT
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Does anybody really give a hoot about a lame, bygone era sport like baseball? personally I would rather watch golf, anytime rather than baseball. In my opinion, baseball is only good for putting fat people to sleep. it doesn't seem like much of a sport when many of it players have a BMI of 30.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Oct 30, 2014 - 09:06am PT
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^^^^^ + 1 for guyman
You stay classy SF.
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apogee
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Oct 30, 2014 - 09:28am PT
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Why do Dodger Haterz hate like they do?
I think I understand the origins of hate for teams like the Yankees (Steinbrenner's moneyed approach to baseball), or the Red Sox (Yankee rivalry?), or the Raiders (hitting below the belt)...etc....
But I just don't get the 'tradition' of hate for the Dodgers. Somebody please explain.
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KP Ariza
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SCC
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Oct 30, 2014 - 09:36am PT
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Ah, go easy on V. I don't think he really means it.
As far as staying classy goes, I'd say the good, the bad and the ugly, are pretty much even across the boards with respect to the Dodgers and Giants fan base. It's understandable that So Cal fans might think differently right now. You guys have some deep wounds to lick.
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clinker
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Santa Cruz, California
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Oct 30, 2014 - 09:41am PT
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Don't confuse dishing out banter to our biggest rivals as hate. If the Dodgers whup our asses or we get the better of them, it is always sweeter or more bitter because we are such diehard rivals.
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apogee
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Oct 30, 2014 - 09:44am PT
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Team to team rivalries make sense to me...there's usually some kind of history there.
But Dodger Hate....like Yankee Hate...etc...goes beyond team to team. It's pervasive amongst lots of fans, even those who don't particularly follow baseball.
I've asked lots of people to explain their Haterz-ness towards the Dodgers, but can't get any kind of reason. They just hate the Dodgers. Why?
Edit: "There's no explaining hatred, it's irrational by definition"
It does seem to have the usual irrationality of any other kind of hate, but I'd like to believe that baseball was somehow different.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Oct 30, 2014 - 09:46am PT
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I am happy for the Giants. They deserved the win and I was pulling for them. Got to support he left coast baby.
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apogee
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Oct 30, 2014 - 10:05am PT
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Yeah, that's only been the case for the last year or few.
Dodger Hatin' is much, much older than that, and goes back much further than the Yankee-style money strategy.
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KP Ariza
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SCC
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Oct 30, 2014 - 10:26am PT
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Do you need some warm milk apogee?
Perhaps some burping?
To portray the Dodgers or there fan base as innocent victims is hilarious.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Oct 30, 2014 - 10:35am PT
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It was a fun series to watch, and game 7 was a classic. I like Bruce Bochy a lot, he had some good years here in San Diego. His game management was brilliant last night. Only negative about Bochy is the fact that he was born in France. Nobody is perfect.
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The Call Of K2 Lou
Mountain climber
North Shore, BC
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Oct 30, 2014 - 10:51am PT
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Congrats to the Giants and all that Vitaliy, but L.A. is still packin' some pretty nice hardware:
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apogee
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Oct 30, 2014 - 10:59am PT
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Yeah, yeah, yeah....I know. Some of you are missing my point & question.
Team to Team rivalries make sense to me...there's always some kind of interesting history there. I understand why the Giants & Dodgers rivalry is the way it is, in the same way as Yankees-Red Sox.
It's the non team to team rivalry that I don't get, in the case of the Dodgers. Yankees are a good example of generalized Hatin', well beyond Red Sox fans....mostly because of their long history of moneyball.
Yes, the Dodgers used a moneyball approach in the last couple of years, but that has not been the case historically (any worse than any other team). Dodger Hatin', though, is a family tradition. Why?
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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Oct 30, 2014 - 11:20am PT
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Sorry apogee, nothing personal, but nobody cares.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Oct 30, 2014 - 11:47am PT
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Tad..... IMHO, that was the worst thing ever.
Those FANS are not real Baseball Fans, they are just gang-banging thugs and haters.....and I think they got off with to light punishment.
Baseball fans love the game, and they GET the long historical rivalres that exist. Those make the games better and more exciting. But when it gets down to REAL hating... thats wrong.
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apogee
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Oct 30, 2014 - 12:04pm PT
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Relatively speaking, baseball still retains a reasonable amount of class & on-the-field sportsmanship. Sure, things get heated from time to time, but overall the drama stays pretty restrained. Yes, I'm probably biased.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Oct 30, 2014 - 12:29pm PT
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Vitaliy, The Dodgers beat the Giants. Face it. We have a better team. You have the World Series Trophy, yes, but we beat you. So STFU and enjoy your trophy. We'll beat you again next year.
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limpingcrab
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the middle of CA
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Oct 30, 2014 - 12:34pm PT
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I'm not educated on the history of sports rivalries, I just don't like anything south of the grapevine :)
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KP Ariza
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SCC
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Oct 30, 2014 - 01:36pm PT
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Savage,
Giants vs Dodgers head to head match ups during the 2014 regular season were split down the middle at ten wins, ten losses for each team. So, you're wrong. We have the better team and the trophy.
Again.....
BTW, this is Madison Bumgarner not Clayton Kershaw. Kershaw got spanked hard two different times this post season. Bumgarner on the other hand couldn't be touched. Back to the money man Dodger Blue.
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apogee
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Oct 30, 2014 - 01:56pm PT
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'Bumgarner'
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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Oct 30, 2014 - 02:09pm PT
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Truth hurts apogee, I know....
Lol!!
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KP Ariza
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SCC
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Oct 31, 2014 - 10:28am PT
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apogee
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Oct 31, 2014 - 10:39am PT
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Haterz gonna hate, I guess....
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mouse from merced
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The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 31, 2014 - 10:46am PT
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Say there hey, Dodger fans
WTF happened?
cheers
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KP Ariza
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SCC
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Oct 31, 2014 - 10:52am PT
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Don't hate, I like your passion for the game. You know the old saying, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em".
We have plenty of room for fans like you. Now, toss that blue cap, take a deep breath, and grab one of these....
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apogee
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Oct 31, 2014 - 11:11am PT
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Ewww. Just eww.
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apogee
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Oct 31, 2014 - 11:12am PT
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The aforementioned question still stands, though:
Why do Dodger Haterz hate like they do?
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KP Ariza
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SCC
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Oct 31, 2014 - 11:26am PT
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I think you might be mistaking hate for pity....
Banter aside, I think Thocking spelled it out pretty thoroughly. Simple Google search takes you through history of this particular rivalry.
Fact is, some people take sports a little too seriously. The haters and the hated both.
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apogee
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Oct 31, 2014 - 11:31am PT
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KP, is there something wrong with your reading comprehension?
My query has been clarified twice already. It has nothing to do with team to team rivalry histories such as Giants-Dodgers. C'mon...try harder. Or stop trying.
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KP Ariza
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Oct 31, 2014 - 11:39am PT
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It has everything to do with team to team rivalries. That said, I think I'll stop now. Your OCD on the subject is off topic anyhow.
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apogee
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Oct 31, 2014 - 11:43am PT
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OK. I'll continue it in the other thread. Thanks for playing!
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2014 - 11:17pm PT
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Bump for the original thread. Dodger fans are as lame as the team they root for, could you even come up with an original name for your thread loser?!
Why all the hate for Dodgers? Well, because they are a rival and we won titles in the last 5 years. So we want to make sure you enjoy hearing about dodgers suckling as much as we like hearing about the Giants winning. Seems like a habit for the Giants - to win titles.
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KP Ariza
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SCC
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Oct 31, 2014 - 11:19pm PT
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Get 'em....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Vitya, bite me.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Not hate, just extreme dislike.
Beer and fine cutlery for sale at game.
Rhymes with the first one ;)
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apogee
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Why the extreme dislike, clinker?
Maybe you can provide a more articulate reason (whatever it is) than anyone else thusfar....
(besides simple Giants-Dodgers animosity)
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DickSilly
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cutlass supreme
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Can someone exlplain why it's called "World Series" when only teams in the USA are involved?
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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apogee, this is all tongue in cheek. Your input as the Giants made this run shows that you have a lot of class and are a true baseball fan.
I was unaware that there are actual "Dodger haters". Just the random gangsters that are everywhere.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Can someone exlplain why it's called "World Series" when only teams in the USA are involved?
Ouch Canada.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
in the oil patch...Fricken Bakken, that's where
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North American Series sounds dumb.
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DickSilly
climber
cutlass supreme
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There are Canadian teams? How about Mexico? Don't ths Japanese play? I don't watch baseball so forgive my clueless question.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Nope, USA and Canada only. Big enough world for some.
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apogee
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Thanks, clinker. I really do love baseball, and greatly enjoyed watching the Giants play...some really amazing players there.
"I was unaware that there are actual "Dodger haters"."
Seriously? I encounter them all the time, when someone asks which team I follow the most. It's weird, and I've never understood it.
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tuolumne_tradster
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Here's my take on the question..."Why is it called the World Series?" I agree that to the outsider it seems arrogant and provincial for Americans to call the final championship series of their favorite pass time, the "World Series." However, the teams that make up Major League Baseball (MLB) are not national teams but professional franchises with players from several different countries, including Japan, Dominican Republic, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Mexico, Venezuela, South Korea, etc. For example, the starting lineup for the Giants in game 7 had Venezuelans playing 3rd and center, and a Dominican playing left. Their main closer, Casilla, is also a Dominican and one of their best relievers, Petit, is Venezuelan. I think it is safe to say that most of the best baseball players in the world are playing in the MLB because that is where they will be paid the most money.
If you are interested in learning about the desire for foreign nationals to play in the MLB, check out Yasiel Puig's story...
http://www.lamag.com/longform/escape-from-cuba-yasiel-puigs-untold-journey-to-the-dodgers/1/
Here's an excerpt...
Finally, in June 2012, the 21-year-old outfielder (Yasiel Puig) left his home in Cienfuegos, on Cuba’s southern shore, and set off by car for the northern province of Matanzas, just 90 miles from Florida. He was traveling with three companions: a boxer, a pinup girl, and a Santeria priest, the latter of whom blessed their expedition with a splash of rum and a sprinkle of chicken blood.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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I suppose now that the Giants are a "Dynasty" this will attract haters.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 25, 2014 - 07:49pm PT
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Really happy the giants are not investing 100 million over 5 years into him. Time will tell if it is the best for them, but I don't think Sandoval is stable enough with his weight and with his production. He did kick ass in the playoffs, but not so much otherwise. Has been up and down after his rookie year. All the best to him though, he helped the Giants quite a bit. But knowing his history and numbers from his contract year, personally I did not want them to pay big bucks for it. If the giants didn't make the playoffs, didn't win the WS, he would be asking for at least 20 million less. Me thinks...time will tell if Boston made a good investment...
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crankster
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Nov 25, 2014 - 07:51pm PT
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Sorry, I hope he bulks up on lobster rolls, hits .230 and the Sox finish in the cellar, watching the Giants repeat.
PS: love your trip reports.
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Jon Beck
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Oceanside
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Nov 25, 2014 - 07:58pm PT
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No way the Giants can repeat without Tim Flannery, he "bailed" today
Great third base coach, and a decent guitar player/singer
Hit it Flan
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apogee
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^^^
Seriously?
Yeah...the guy's a pitching Ace. In a ONE TRICK PONY kinda way..
Surely there's another athlete who's proven to be more of an all-arounder Sportsman?
Probably not another one who could sell as many magazines as MadBum.
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Nearly all the winners of this award have been 1 trick ponies in conventional American sports
How about Alex Honnold or Ueli Steck?
Certainly Reinhold Messner deserved this award as much or more than Lance Armstrong, Drew Brees, Tiger Wood, etc
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Dec 10, 2014 - 06:05am PT
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Giants. Yup!
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apogee
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Dec 10, 2014 - 07:39am PT
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Dude can't hit for sh#t. Throws like a laser.
Sportsman of the Year? Meh.
Can't wait for spring!
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Dec 10, 2014 - 07:51am PT
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Until spring, remember.
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limpingcrab
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the middle of CA
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Dec 10, 2014 - 08:09am PT
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Isn't every professional athlete a one trick pony?
Sure, Bumgarner probably can't climb well, but can Ueli Steck throw fast or swing a golf club or kayak class V?
You don't become the best by being a jack-of-all-trades
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apogee
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Dec 10, 2014 - 09:38am PT
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Even a blonde squirrel finds a nut every once in a while...
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Dec 10, 2014 - 09:55am PT
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apogee has been watching Ice Age. Much more entertaining than the Dodgers.
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Srbphoto
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Kennewick wa
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Dec 10, 2014 - 10:15am PT
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In a ONE TRICK PONY kinda way..
Unlike Kershaw, who is one of the best regular season pitchers in the NL
Kershaw is an amazing batter - career average .157 to Bumgarner's .166
Kershaw had a nice 2014 post season - ERA 7.82 to Bumgarner's 1.03
Now Kershaw does have a better WS ERA 0.00 and a 0-0 win/loss record to Bumgarner's .25 era and 4-0 win/loss
Dang one trick ponies!!!
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KP Ariza
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SCC
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Dec 10, 2014 - 10:19am PT
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Lol!....
I've got a 3 year old son at home so I've seen Ice Age a ton of times. Gotta say though, watching the Dodgers consistently choke is pretty damn entertaining.
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