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High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Sep 24, 2017 - 10:01am PT
@TedCruz-
"I recognize that for a lot of folks in college, climate change is taught from one perspective & 1 perspective only."

@RepBrendanBoyle
That 1 perspective is known as science.

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The Dying Art of Disagreement...
Brett Stephens


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/24/opinion/dying-art-of-disagreement.html?mwrsm=Email
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Sep 25, 2017 - 09:59am PT


lol

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@Donald Trump: "Many people booed the players who kneeled yesterday (which was a small percentage of total). These are fans who demand respect for our Flag!"

@Gavin Newsom: "A few things you should be focused on this AM: Emergency aid to Puerto Rico; Not starting a war w/N Korea; This disgrace of a healthcare bill."

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You care about politics because you care about culture...
Douglas Murray and Dave Rubin...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAgLxI5izQU

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A Stanford psychologist on the art of avoiding as#@&%es...

Asshole survival, Sutton says, is a craft, not a science, meaning one can be good or bad at it. His book is about getting better at it.

https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/9/26/16345476/stanford-psychologist-art-of-avoiding-as#@&%es
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Sep 25, 2017 - 10:01am PT

When Trump says "I love uneducated people", I hear it the same way as when Hannibal Lecter says "I'm having an old friend for dinner"...
MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
Sep 25, 2017 - 03:53pm PT
Someone remind me, please. Why is the national anthem played at Amrerican professional sports events?

Marketing ploy?

I wish it were played before every court trial.

Tempests in teapots.
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Sep 25, 2017 - 04:00pm PT
^^^Mike, this is my (strong) opinion, also. It's time American sports events become just sports events and do away with all the flag waving and patriotic symbolisms. These multi-million dollar athletes are not representing our nation. They are devoted to team, playing their sport, and making lots of money.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Sep 29, 2017 - 09:26am PT
The Mars city we (well some of us) might live in in a couple decades...



Outstanding!
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Sep 29, 2017 - 06:42pm PT
Hey Dingus,

I know you're too smart to fall for Bill Maher's strawman (youtube somewhere) that the pro-martian colony people are motivated by the vision of moving there after trashing earth.

It's amazing how many people have either (a) fallen for this silliness directly because they haven't given it much thought or (b) else use it, as an agent of distraction, etc, for antagonistic political purposes.

The interests are many (seed bank, like the one we have up in the arctic circle; adventure for adventure sake; spacefaring start, begins w a first step; etc) - but hope for something of an earth substitute after H. sapiens lays waste to its home planet, like some antagonists wish to project, is not one of them.

For me, too, the interests are many. The good news: A Mars colony is likely to be next generation, state of the art, managed by really smart, caring, nature oriented and nature-respecting people notwithstanding the powers of commercialism. Probably no Walmarts, nor Walmart customers, for a long long while, lol.

the Monkeys are sending...

lol
Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Sep 29, 2017 - 09:30pm PT

Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Sep 30, 2017 - 08:55am PT
goi' agoin' ta tryta gota Alpha Centuri?

or Mars? A Moon Of Jupiter? anywhere?

no onez going anywhere

syence fickshun
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Sep 30, 2017 - 04:28pm PT
Thanks, Dingus.

Look the whole go /no go to Mars is not my decision to take. Its for my kids and their kids to decide.

That is such a powerful thought/reflection. It sort of just hit me. A powerful reminder that insofar as this many-generational thing takes place, it'll be done by others. I won't be there - I will have left the party (forced OUT by higher powers), aughh!

So close yet so far.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Oct 2, 2017 - 11:26am PT
jgill, for you...

A math puzzle. Are you up to the task, lol!


Solve carefully! 230 - 220 x 0.5 = ???

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You probably won't believe it, maybe it's a new age thing?
but the answer is 5!
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Oct 2, 2017 - 12:06pm PT
HFCS, a good example of lack of clarity in symbol manipulation. I've always used parentheses in chains of operations to avoid any confusion. Especially in programming. Thanks.


Too bad we won't be around to visit the Mars colonies. The National Geographic channel's series was excellent. As was The Matt Damon movie.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Oct 2, 2017 - 12:12pm PT
Cool, jgill.

But I'm not 100 per cent convinced that you are FULLY seeing the puzzle.

Show your work!!


lol
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Oct 2, 2017 - 12:17pm PT
Yeah. 5!=120

Good one.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Oct 2, 2017 - 12:20pm PT
Excellent!


A+!
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Oct 3, 2017 - 09:43am PT
First, They Came for the Biologists

The postmodernist left on campus is intolerant not only of opposing views, but of science itself.

"What may not be obvious from outside academia is that this revolution is an attack on Enlightenment values: reason, inquiry and dissent. Extremists on the left are going after science. Why? Because science seeks truth, and truth isn’t always convenient."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/first-they-came-for-the-biologists-1506984033

Very spot-on, imo, and insightful and up-to-date. I hope it's not behind a paywall.*

"...what is going on at institutions across the country is—yes—a culture war between science and postmodernism. The extreme left has embraced a facile fiction."

"Little credence is given to the idea of objective reality."

A few of the Evergreen, Yale and Cal videos are well worth watching if you haven't already for greater insight into what many of our campuses esp liberal arts campuses are morphing into under the banners or tags of social justice warriors (sjw), patriarchy, racism and bigotry.

I no longer identify as liberal or progressive or left without a weight of qualifiers.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMc8pczn-hs

[Click to View YouTube Video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cMYfxOFBBM

If anyone needs to be fired, it is this president of Evergreen State - he is a spineless jellyfish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO1agIlLlhg

Extra credit if anyone spots Sycorax in any of these "liberal" anti-science sjw meetup videos, lol!


*Actually, it is behind a paywall but this paywall can be circumvented by a google news search directly. Or else, eg a twitter link directly.
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Oct 3, 2017 - 04:29pm PT
Evergreen has been a nutty place for decades. And it has attracted climbers as faculty: Willi Unsold was dean for years, and Pete Sinclair retired there as prof of literature. Both are gone now. RIP
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Oct 4, 2017 - 10:54am PT
Colleges are shape-shifting. This is kind of scary...

Professors Behaving Badly
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/30/opinion/sunday/adjunct-professors-politics.html

In hindsight, these developments stand out as pretty obvious.
I'm afraid it's going to get worse.

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Apologies for above Yale video. I thought it was the very original. Turns out it was edited over in certain spots. I wish they wouldn't do that unless they make this clear.

Context: Students at Yale bully sociology Professor Nicholas Christakis because his wife had the audacity to suggest, in an email, that students could maybe decide what Halloween costumes to wear by themselves.
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Oct 4, 2017 - 11:15am PT
"Professor Karabel cited the example of Germany in the 1930s, when a slow-moving academic labor market increased the appeal of Nazism for a surprising number of underemployed intellectuals. The same situation can breed support for radical movements of the left."

The plight of adjunct "professors" is a sad reflection on the academic establishment. The math department at the small state university where I taught currently has 22 faculty - 11 of whom are non-tenure track, and I suspect poorly paid.

High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Oct 6, 2017 - 09:30am PT
PSA...

Yuval Noah Harari to pen new book to cover global warming, God and nationalism.

The historian’s next book, 21 Lessons for the 21st Century, will ask ‘what should we teach children today to prepare them for the world of tomorrow.

Sounds perfect. Check out the assertion in the first paragraph. Ain't that the truth.

“A good way of putting it is, ‘What should we teach children today to prepare them for the world of the 21st century?’

“We have no way of knowing what kind of world they will inhabit, when they will be in their 30s or 60s. But it’s something we should be thinking about very carefully.”

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/oct/06/sapiens-author-harari-new-book-to-cover-global-warming-god-and-nationalism

"the political system is no longer capable of producing meaningful visions for the future..."
"... so you see nostalgic fantasies about going back to the past,”

Is it just the political system though? Should we frame this problem / challenge of our time only in terms of the political system?? But apart from philosophy what else we got?

"It’s kind of a transitory phase until somebody manages to come up with a new meaningful vision for the future."

until somebody manages to come up with a new meaningful vision
until somebody manages to come up with a new meaningful vision
until somebody manages to come up with a new meaningful vision

“We are now living in an age of information explosion … the last thing people need is more information. What they really need is somebody to arrange all of the bits of information into a meaningful picture..."
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