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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Stuportampopo Religioso vs Scientificola rethread !!!!!!!
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Bless you TD : )
Even when the rowdy crowd got too big, Jesus would leave to go up on a hill/mountain to pray.
It still astonishes me that He did spend so much time praying. One would think God could whisper a few instructions in His son's ear and He'd be good to go. Wherever Jesus went people would follow because He had something to say. He knew the Torah well enough that when He was just a teenager He could debate with the eldest priests. In those days all of God's people were living under The Law. And that set the precedence for every one of Jesus's steps. When He felt ready to start His ministry, he first seeked out John the Baptist. upon making this show of faith, the Holyspirit came and dwelt with Him. It was then that He went out and started His ministry. This is pertinent because later in Acts He would tell the apostles, with all that they had witnessed and had to say. "Wait until you have received the HS before you go out into the world." I wish we had more info of what the HS's role is in all this, but one thing for sure everyone that's claimed to understand any part of God's plan have always attested to the fact of the HS's influence. As a Christian, we need to pray and ask for the HS to come upon us. He is the one that is with us in times of temptation, and in times of turmoil, and when we don't know what to say when we're asked undefinable questions. We have to be ready at times like you described to allow the HS to work through us. Literally let Him take control of our tongue. He knows well before we do what needs to be said, or done. When I'm not seeing the HS work in my life. I have to stop and ask why. In prayer. This is always when God shows me where I have become "unHoly" or unclean in my body or my spirit. Sometimes my shortcomings are brought to me in meditation and prayer. Sometimes it's revealed by observing someone else's experience. Sometimes it takes days mulling over the Word and Jesus's examples. However the discovery arises, with my acknowledgement and repentance the HS confirms with an overwhelming assurance within my senses.pretty much indescribable, but surely unmistakeable. But it sure doesn't last long enough, seems like in no time I'm back to just plain ol me. I think that's why I want to keep talkin about it. I want to replenish what I've undeniably experienced. And it does happen, out of no where, for no ryhm or reason, but certainly only when I'm being faithful. Sorry for goin on and on.
Not sure if I have a point for you, but Jesus did say that if we're invited into someone's home and they don't want to hear our testimony, brush off your feet and go somewhere else : )
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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^^^ Thanks, I liked that last link : )
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jun 18, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
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Jan, rediscovered this, thought you might enjoy.
If memory serves, you enjoyed Ursula Goodenough's Sacred Depths of Nature. Here, Robert Wright interviews her.
http://meaningoflife.tv/video.php?speaker=Goodenough&topic=complete
It was nice to discover this website of Robert Wright still active. It was one of my very first video experiences on the internet some 12 years or so ago.
It was also my introduction to Goodenough and to Wright.
She made several salient points in this interview that since I've incorporated / inducted into my own belief system / spirituality.
Unf, it hasn't been shared on youtube.
(Which makes downloading so easy.)
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Here was a favorite piece...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCfTkhdbB88
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 20, 2015 - 08:45pm PT
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^^^^ what i think is telling, is that everyone in the above link was born with the evolution of morals from the past 4000yrs and they've lived most of their adult lives under the Christian moral fortitude. And their living their remaining years trying to debunk the ones they don't agree with, along with saying they could come up with "good" ones WITHOUT the help of evolution.
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cintune
climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
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Jun 21, 2015 - 07:39am PT
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 21, 2015 - 07:44am PT
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Our Father in heaven
Hallowed be Your name.
Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us day by day our daily bread.
And forgive us our sins
For we also forgive everyone who
is indebted to us.
And do not lead us into temptation
But deliver us from the evil one.
Happy Fathers Day, Lord : D
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 21, 2015 - 07:59am PT
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It is a gift
It is a blessing
To you brother
Happy Fathers Day!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jun 21, 2015 - 01:05pm PT
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It's not up to me to decide what God wrote. That's up to God and to Werner, if there's a difference...
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jun 22, 2015 - 07:03am PT
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I m sorry I missed this and quite a bit more too,
Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, California
Jun 7, 2015 - 11:10pm PT
I think I've been abducted into some kind of holy roller esoteric arts festival nazi hippy burning man right wing left wing zen Buddhist porno slave trade radical militant ranting atheist philanderering woman's lib house boat bayou culture distemper infected rock climber out to pasture cult here on the Stuportampopo Religioso vs Scientificola rethread and I can't find my way home, Toto!
Talk about your Lions Dens....Jeeeeezus
Call me a sinner, hose me down with a can of that self riteous arosol spray, and put me in hell all wet so I can pop like a bug hittin the bug zapper when I pass through Mephistos gates cuz the preachin shore is off the deep end once again here, boys and girls!
Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Jun 7, 2015 - 11:16pm PT
Stuportampopo Religioso vs Scientificola rethread !!!!!!!
also to puke is to purify, as to save is to redeem, right?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 22, 2015 - 01:20pm PT
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Here goes yet another tabloid twisting the facts in their headline to sell lies.
Although dreams are difficult to study scientifically,” write McNamara and Bulkeley, “the sheer fact of their scientific and cultural ubiquity makes them an important topic for brain-mind research.” They posit that the cultural and neurological clues surrounding agency and sleep “naturally lend themselves to attributions of special powers to ‘special characters/beings’ in dreams and therefore to religious meaning and purpose.”
What of the secular kid dreaming of becoming a major league home run hitter? That has nothing to do with religion. And neither does any of what these Bezerkly dudes are pointing at! If religion isn't inserted in the brain by the conscious dreamer by day, he won't be think'in about at night. If they should be talkin at all it should be about hopes and ambitions. Lets see some data for that first. Ha
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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Jun 22, 2015 - 02:31pm PT
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Dreams are ephemeral and aoristic, they present nonsense from which we feel compelled to make sense. They present disassociated feeling in the face of the unexpected; they present certainty where there is only uncertainty and vice versa. No wonder they're such a primary source of mythological ideas. Dreams feel as though they come from some uncontrollable hidden mind as a revelation of what we're really feeling or thinking: a source of our real truth as individuals and as a collective race. From Freud to Jung to surrealism the subconscious mind as revealed through dreams became celebrated as a source of truth even in secular thought.
Pretty easy to understand why.
The source for the human notion/recognition of God may very well have been the first experienced thunderclap and the dreams it induced.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 22, 2015 - 02:54pm PT
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The source for the human notion/recognition of God may very well have been the first experienced thunderclap and the dreams it induced.
very true, hopefully Jan will have more to say later on this
the general Anthropological consensus is that the natural world with its terrifying storms,
droughts, etc, was one of the early motivations for our way back ancestors to want to
ascribe supernatural reasons for those fears, ie...gods were responsible...
very early evidence of pre-humans being buried with ornaments, weapons, and the arrangement of the bodies leads to the belief that such early and developing consciousness
was associated with the hope/belief that there must be something after physical death
that the dead would need those burial accessories in an afterlife
it really was not until humans developed the ability to communicate through verbal
and written means that the first structural religions were identifiable
Jan?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 22, 2015 - 02:54pm PT
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Paul ^^^True. But not the way those Bezerklyites described it.
Edit: on second account. Maybe they have measured proof for the existence of God ;D
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