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High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jun 10, 2016 - 11:57am PT
I would have thought of it... if only I would've thought of it:

Sci Fi meets theology (Abrahamic theology)... X-Men: Apocalypse.

In fine theaters everywhere. lol


In less than two generations, sacred theology has been
trivialized. So that shows the power of this information age, and
it's only going to strengthen. Hold on to your hat!
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jun 10, 2016 - 05:44pm PT
"The only way to build Göbekli Tepe was for thousands of foragers belonging to different bands and tribes to cooperate over an extended period of time. Only a sophisticated religious or ideological system could sustain such efforts."


Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobekli_Tepe
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Jun 10, 2016 - 08:24pm PT
(Relieving the pressure on HFCS to keep this thread alive)


;>\
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Jun 12, 2016 - 12:02pm PT
What are their names and to which planets do these bodies belong?


C'mon you stoopians...
Most of these should be easy to get for you science types.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jun 12, 2016 - 05:05pm PT
"Looks like Mateen had a degree in science. Classic!!!!" -Sycorax

How perfectly timed!

On the denigration of science: Atul Gawande’s commencement address to Caltech...

[Click to View YouTube Video]

http://youtu.be/QH7yhLpqdZg?t=1m43s

The Mistrust of Science
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-mistrust-of-science



I'd suggest Sycorax watch it but don't think it would do any good.
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Jun 12, 2016 - 05:49pm PT
It's not a good day for America right now I know.
Just thought I'd try and distract a few with that moon quiz.
There aren't any actual stoopians (stoopians?) on this thread,
but I know there a are few amateur space freaks like me
who enjoy trying to wrap their brains around astronomy.
That big universe out there makes the petty squabbles
here on our little rock look pretty insignificant sometimes.

Besides that quiz was easy peazy for the 'real' scientists here.
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Jun 12, 2016 - 08:45pm PT
Looks like Mateen had a degree in science. Classic!!!! (witch)


Had he been a philosopher he would never have gotten to the point of doing anything, arguing with himself endlessly as he spiraled into an intellectual rabbit hole.

Lesson here, folks.
PSP also PP

Trad climber
Berkeley
Jun 12, 2016 - 09:20pm PT
Nice post MH2!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jun 13, 2016 - 07:15am PT
I have faith in reason and I see no reason to have "faith."
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jun 13, 2016 - 08:10am PT
jd, nice to see you are distinguishing faith from "faith"

Faith, esp evidence-based faith (or trust) is too good a word/concept to leave to religions. We all know their use of this word/concept means non-evidenced based, also non-reason based. That is the worst kind. It's time we take this word/concept back. In time it will happen. The sooner the better.

...

Gay Marriage isn't Special Rights, it's Equal Rights. 'Special Rights' are for political churches that don't pay taxes. -John Fugelsang
WBraun

climber
Jun 13, 2016 - 08:22am PT
The fool claims there is no God then simultaneously imitates God in every way all while masquerading as full of knowledge .....
MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
Jun 13, 2016 - 09:41am PT
Alasdair Gray: But Duncan, what men believe isn’t important - it’s our actions which make us right or wrong.

Alas, if this were only true. Living a good life would be so much more unambiguous and certain. Historical renditioning, cultural relativism, education, various humanistic analyses, and conflicting legal principles tend to shift the morality of any action from one evaluation to another. it’s instructive to see such things, how everything shifts and morphs from one thing to another.

I know it might seem ludicrous and incredible, but it might be best to relinquish ties to right and wrong. Righteousness tends to make people miserable at the end of the day.
MH2

Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
Jun 13, 2016 - 05:07pm PT
MikeL

The line you attribute to Alasdair Gray is Alasdair Gray, the author, writing in the voice of Duncan's father. Alasdair Gray writes his novel Lanark in many voices, often opposing each other, and does not give any voice priority. That is up to you. As you put it:

it’s instructive to see ... how everything shifts and morphs from one thing to another
MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
Jun 13, 2016 - 05:07pm PT
Jeremy:

Yes. Cochise Stronghold is on my list once the weather lets up a bit, and I get fully settled. I've heard the area is very good. We haven't gotten outside on a rope for 10 years, but I thought we'd rummage around and look at the place first! We are not more than 30-40 miles away. (Hell, then maybe we'll buy a rope.)

Thanks much for your thought.
MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
Jun 13, 2016 - 05:08pm PT
Thanks, MH2. As usual, I'm not completely sure what I'm talking about. :-|
eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Jun 13, 2016 - 05:34pm PT
Had he been a philosopher he would never have gotten to the point of doing anything, arguing with himself endlessly as he spiraled into an intellectual rabbit hole.

jGill is onto something! Let's export our outdated, ancient Greek-based metaphysical constructs to the jihadists.

It'll be like that Star Trek episode where the superior alien intelligence infected the ship computer, but Captain Kirk directed the computer to calculate pi to the nth decimal place. They might get into some kind of recursive loop (I like the word, eddy) that they can't break out of. Add a little gratuitous sex and it can't miss with the male Muslim jihadist crowd (possibly).
MH2

Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
Jun 13, 2016 - 06:32pm PT
Welcome to the Mountain Daylight Tribe, Mike.

Be careful of girlfriends you meet by hitting them with your car at 3 am.
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Jun 13, 2016 - 09:40pm PT
Answers to the 'Name the Moons Quiz'

Amalthea/Jupiter/moon


Phobos/Mars/moon


Europa/Jupiter/moon


Titan/Saturn/moon


Apricot/Earth/fruit


Charon/Pluto/moon


Triton/Neptune/moon


Saturn/Hyperion/moon






Apricot/Earth/fruit


You're Welcome!

jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Jun 14, 2016 - 09:37pm PT
Be careful of girlfriends you meet by hitting them with your car at 3 am


If you're taken to lockup be prepared to wear pink.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 14, 2016 - 11:30pm PT
That's a pretty good apricot resembling earth there Bushy!

there's something reveling there why the planets are so round, and the asteroids are not. so why is that apricot or my brain, so round?
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