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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Man I couldn't believe how far they slid along the road. Serious road rash. Let alone how close they were to light pole sanctions.
Susan
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Bike racing is bad ass . . . look at that carnage and tell me these guys are not tough. Only 18 more days to go!
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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I don't have cable, any idea if I can stream it?
Getting to see a couple of stages in person as a kid was a great experience!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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No kidding tough, one guy popped his dislocated shoulder back in and continued and another finished the stage with two cracked vertebra.
Even if you escaped with just some bruises and road rash, miles and miles of cobble stones today will be brutal.
There was some amateur carnage this Sunday too. GMR/GRR closes every 4th for fire prevention. I rode up to Baldy village from the house Sunday and got off the hill about noon. Some were using the lack of rice rockets to try to beat Strava.
About one there were two crashes, one from a blowout resulted in six broken ribs, the other ended in a broken pelvis, facial fractures and a helicopter ride.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Does anyone know if there is still play-by-play coverage somewhere on the web? Charles Pelkey used to do a terrific job on Velonews, but there's nothing this year.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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As the camera panned through the stopped race the ripped shirts, shorts and grazed body parts was a sight to see. It's so disorienting to see the perfect colorful kits all in shreds.
Tough barely begins to scratch the surface of these guys and this race.
As one stat put it....the ascent....like climbing Everest....twice.
Susan
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this just in
climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
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Sorry to be off topic, but how you feeling Lars? Really glad you got located quickly.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Lars...Luckily the tour is on to help entertain you during your recovery time...
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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This is why I have TV.
Some months I wonder, and think about dumping the satellite.
What a race! The last third was over roads paved by The Romans ( Napoleon scheduled them for resurfacing, but then he got busy doing other things ). Both the German and the Frenchie had their share of adversity, but the German didn't quit, and ended up winning, while the Frenchie threw a series of classic Euro-hissie fits, and lost several minutes.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Great racing at the end of stage yesterday! That uphill finish had everyone attacking. 23% at one point!
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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steephilltv has decent highlights and pics.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Good Lord. It looks like they should be on MTB on the cobblestones. Ick ick.
Susan
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Massive Armstrong hangover going on.....only 3 Americans among 198 starters.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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I was wondering about this. I didn't even realize it was going on until day 2.
Rope-a-dope.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Are they riding in France this year...?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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It's The Best Tour Yet !!!!
Every stage so far.. all the top contenders are battleling it out,
so awesome.
If you don't like the tour.\,,, please refrain from commenting here, we won't mind.
If you are into the Tour.. Please don't post about today's stage until after 6pm Pacific Time, don't give away the winner/stage highlights until we all had time to watch it.
Thanks, a longtime Tour enthusiast that will watch every stage with glee
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Did Tony Martin have to pee really bad?
or,
Did he have a rocket stuffed up his azz?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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The thing i love about the Tour dey France is that they won't let the italians hang onto the team cars like they do in the Giro...
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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I was so stoked for Tony M. yesterday, to be so close yet so far 3 times, and then get it!!!
Close one at the end today.
Did you see how much faster Peter S. was going that Andre G. at the end? Bad timing though, he got boxed in just at the critical moment.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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It's like golf; You have to play the wind correctly.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Thinking about those long flattish stages with a sprint finish reminds me of what a friend once said about NBA basketball games: "Why don't they just give each team 100 points and then play for one minute?"
At least it looks like the race organizers have woken up to the fact that a lot of people find those stages boring, and this year have tried to include more stages that can impact the GC.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I'm no doctor, but it looks like Martin just broke his collarbone.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Massive Armstrong hangover going on.....only 3 Americans among 198 starters.
What does this have to do with anything? This is not about America or Lance.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Please never post about the day's stage again, until later in the evening.
How about you just don't read this thread till you've watched the stage in the evening, and let the rest of us post as we wish. We are all interested in sharing the news of the day's race, and if you don't want to know it, don't click it.
Has there been any news about Martin's collarbone yet? That arm posture is sure typical of a broken collarbone, and if that's the case, he's out.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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So bummed for Tony, it looked like he knows it's bad.
Yay Daniel!
Sagan, will be in green soon.
Tyler talking about Daniels score.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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According to The Guardian:
He left for hospital for x-rays almost immediately and later took to Twitter to confirm a fractured collarbone.
“Collarbone is broken. We will discuss further steps,” he wrote.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Maybe he can continue.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Tony's out...
All this crashing is getting a little ridiculous. Understand the weather aspects and all, but its getting so the odds of actually being able to finish a race are going to hell.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Damn....could you contemporaneous posters at least preface your posts with "spoiler alert"??? Purdy Pleeze?
Susan
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Maybe he can continue.
No, he's out for sure. See the statement from the doc, below. But even if the frx was just a simple clean break, he'd be out anyway. You just can't pull or push with an arm below a broken collarbone.
“Unfortunately, the collarbone is a lateral fracture,” team doctor Helge Riepenhof said. “The collarbone is in lots of pieces, so it was a major impact. One of the pieces came through the skin, which means it’s an open fracture. Therefore, even if it was Tony’s [Martin] wish to start tomorrow, I have to say he is not allowed to. Riders always want to race. Tony especially. He’s shown in the last years that even with broken bones that he will race if possible. But this is a medical situation where this is impossible. He needs surgery straight away, and that is why we are going to the hospital now. We will fix the collarbone there. He is already on antibiotics. It’s a serious injury, and that is why we can’t risk anything and why he cannot be at the start tomorrow.”
Read more at http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/news/tour-yellow-jersey-martin-says-its-broken-stybar-wins-stage_377359#rkdcQUVhRQc7A5VD.99
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jus' sayin'...
I wonder if he had a complete break. Or more of a crack or greenstick type fracture.
I broke my collarbone in a bike crash about 25 years ago, and have no idea how anyone could pull hard on handlebars in that situation. Mind you, I had some other damage, but it was the collarbone that said "NO!" when I tried to ride.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Article just says "with a double fracture of his right collarbone."
I would expect just about any way you slice it, having it busted in any way would have to hurt HUGE.
Later in the article it talks about some dude claiming the supposed break was a PR stunt, but they published the X-rays in the paper, so I'm thinking that put it to bed.
Tough guy... to say the least.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 10, 2015 - 08:38am PT
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It looks like Cav isn't over the hill!
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 10, 2015 - 10:03am PT
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First Lars, hero much respect from this wee one I hope your ok ,man stop scaring us , , ,okay that out of the way
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Jul 9, 2015 - 10:14am PT
They eat snails in France"
Well I am deathly allergic to them things
, I nearly died in the Adirondacks' Lake Placid Club back 30 years ago
But that saved me from learning the rules of ice clambering until the technology
Caught up with our skills as climbers.
The Tour de France the extreme Dream of every kids who ever road a bike too far in one direction and had to try to peddle back it sucked more if the bike was borrowed and you had to return it and then drag azzback home,on foot.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 12, 2015 - 11:55am PT
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The story today, Team Time Trial
Of course.
Talkin' 'bout TJ.
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Gorgeous George
Trad climber
Los Angeles, California
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Jul 13, 2015 - 10:00am PT
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About the toughness of bikers:
Back in the 80's (I know before your time) I watched a race where a rider crashed and opened a big gash in his head. Got back on the bike and his team pulled up in a car with a doctor, who examined the wound and recommended stitches. The rider wouldn't stop, so the doc hung out the window and stitched the guy up while he was still racing. Unbelievable.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 13, 2015 - 10:27am PT
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Hoogerland finished the stage after a media car knocked him into a barbwire fence. Woosies need not apply.
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10b4me
Social climber
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Jul 13, 2015 - 11:46am PT
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Now thats some harsh news to get.
agreed. yeah, he was a doper, but I've always liked the guy. I am glad that he won the Giro, twice.
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lars johansen
Trad climber
West Marin, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 13, 2015 - 04:31pm PT
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Sadly, Ivan Basso was diagnosed with testicular cancer today. Sending Ivan good wishes-lars
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BigB
Mountain climber
Sin City
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Jul 14, 2015 - 06:25am PT
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So bummed for Ivan! Hope he kicks its a$$.
On another note today's summit finish should be good....
Teejay starting to look like a real contender
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Jul 14, 2015 - 06:47am PT
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Back in the 80's (I know before your time) I watched a race where a rider crashed and opened a big gash in his head. Got back on the bike and his team pulled up in a car with a doctor, who examined the wound and recommended stitches. The rider wouldn't stop, so the doc hung out the window and stitched the guy up while he was still racing. Unbelievable.
Not BEFORE my time. I REMEMBER!
F'ing awesome!
Susan
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jul 14, 2015 - 08:04am PT
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That's some fine needlework.
And speaking of needlework, I'll bet we start hearing doping rumors after what just happened today.
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10b4me
Social climber
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Jul 14, 2015 - 08:41am PT
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^^^^agreed
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hb81
climber
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Jul 14, 2015 - 09:22am PT
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And speaking of needlework, I'll bet we start hearing doping rumors after what just happened today.
Considering the history of the sport, how could you NOT doubt results like this...
He just utterly destroyed nearly all his competitors on the very first serious climb.
I'm pretty sure there's something new on the market that the controls haven't quite caught up with yet. Wouldn't be surprised if we will see some prominent "casualties" in the next 2-3 years.
But maybe I'm just bitter that a sport I really really like watching has been a non-stop shitshow over the last 15 years.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 14, 2015 - 11:41am PT
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Froome just looks a little too strong. WTF?
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Jul 14, 2015 - 01:15pm PT
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I hope it isn't the case, but when one competitor totally out rides the rest of the field and does it so easily you have to wonder.
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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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Jul 14, 2015 - 01:31pm PT
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Froome's presence in the Tour totally kills it for me. If its his to win, I have lost interest in this years race.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 14, 2015 - 01:54pm PT
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He looked crazy strong, but there is a ton more climbing coming. It will be interesting to see how he holds up.
Since he has Porte to support him, it is going to be tough for anyone to crack him, but it only takes one bad day in the mountains.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 14, 2015 - 02:05pm PT
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We will have to see . . . who knows how deep Froome went in this effort? Perhaps he will be unfazed, perhaps he will eventually crack. There is much riding left in this Tour and anything can happen . . . for now he is playing a dominant role in the maillot jaune and it is left to the other GC contenders to go after him.
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hb81
climber
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Jul 14, 2015 - 02:06pm PT
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If you haven't seen Pantani: The Accidental Death of a Cyclist on Netflix, do. The Giro, Alpe d'Heuz, Lance...
Nothing much new there, apart from some vague conspiracy theories. (which might as well be true considering how f*#ked up this world is)
However, one quite memorable moment:
After Pantani had just beat him to the top of Mt. Ventoux, Lance Armstrong
had nothing better to say than:
"I dunno what Pantani was thinking..... he's just a little shitstarter"
Class act.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Jul 14, 2015 - 03:09pm PT
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Cough, cough...err...
Not just Froome. The top three Sky guys. Geraint Thomas beating a whole bunch of climbers. US Postal all over again, with Thomas in the Hincapie role.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 15, 2015 - 11:38am PT
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Innocent until proven guilty.
Those girls must be 7 feet tall!
Yeah Majka!
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 20, 2015 - 09:32am PT
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Congrats to Ruben Plaza on his win today
He is now in the elite club of those who have won a stage in all 3 grand tours.
......but still bummed that Peter Sagan hasn't got a win in this years tour.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 20, 2015 - 09:37am PT
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I thought Geraint Thomas was dead. Or at least seriously injured. But he only ended up losing about a minute.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 20, 2015 - 09:53am PT
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That's probably what saved him. Helped lessen the impact on the side of his head or his neck. Watching it, it didn't look like he could have hit it any worse.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 20, 2015 - 10:57am PT
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That did look bad. Good thing he wasn't wearing one of those old style hair nets. That helmet probably saved his life.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jul 20, 2015 - 11:17am PT
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If, as it seems from the video clip, Barguil rode straight into him and caused the crash, can penalties be imposed?
Can one be disqualified for recklessly endangering other riders?
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 20, 2015 - 11:18am PT
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That was a scary crash to watch, amazing he only lost less than a minute.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 20, 2015 - 01:20pm PT
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They normally only relagate a rider if they do somehting reckless, usually in sprint. If you make a bonehead mistake and take someone else out (it looked like he unclipped/slid out making a bike handling error) they often don't penalize.
He will probably have some splainin' to do now that the stage is over.
Edit:
Yikes!!!
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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hb81
climber
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Jul 20, 2015 - 02:18pm PT
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My first thoughts too were: f*#k, I hope he is not dead. It looked absolutely awful. He probably had slowed down just enough when he hit that pole that it didn't go any worse.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jul 20, 2015 - 02:45pm PT
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The more I watch video of the crash, the more it looks deliberate.
I'm sure it wasn't, but man, it sure looks like a hockey game. It looks like he lined Thomas up in his sights, and then hip-checked him into the boards.
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okie
Trad climber
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Jul 20, 2015 - 06:26pm PT
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Looks like the guy wasn't trying to make the curve but maybe he was coming into it too hot?
So the Team Sky "supplement" conspiracy theory...lol Ever since he-who-shall-not-be-named...
I had my French connection tighten Contador's brakes so they'd rub to slow him down. Sorry, no Giro/Tour link-up for you, buddy!
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jul 20, 2015 - 07:09pm PT
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They normally only relagate a rider if they do something reckless,
I think the peleton will handle the relagating. There were a lot of unhappy riders.
He also started that massive pile up that took out Cancellara and happened to be the guy Tony Martin fell into when he broke his collar bone.
If he didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all :)
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jul 20, 2015 - 07:25pm PT
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After the exchange, Sagan was asked why he went into the breakaway for a third straight day, replying because "I have big balls" leaving the interviewer stunned before letting out a nervous laugh and continuing on.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jul 20, 2015 - 07:43pm PT
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If he didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all :)
More like incompetence or malfeasance than bad luck!
He just plain screwed up trying to ride the inside line or intentionally body checked him.
Bad form either way.
Then again, I think everyone in our game long enough knows someone that is an "epic" magnet. They just need to be present for bad things to happen.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 20, 2015 - 09:46pm PT
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Brilliant descent by Sagan today . . . effort is everything.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 20, 2015 - 09:49pm PT
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The more I watch video of the crash, the more it looks deliberate.
Poor Team Sky . . . Not!
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 21, 2015 - 09:14am PT
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I like Sagan in his interview after the descent chasing Plaza when asked "did you hope to catch Plaza?," "I no hope, I chust try."
At least Oleg has wised up about Peter, "the best rider in the race."
“I’m glad because I was going for second place. No, I’m joking,” Sagan said in his nasally voice.
“I really don’t know what I should do better. I tried everything. I knew I had to try as hard as I could in the descent even if it meant dying.”
Read more at http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/news/sagan-second-again-after-hair-raising-descent_378840#8gbg4MrUlcLmFUid.99
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 22, 2015 - 06:13am PT
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TJ is out...wow.
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Mike Friedrichs
Sport climber
City of Salt
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Jul 22, 2015 - 07:23am PT
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We'll see what happens next year when Richie Porte signs with BMC. Tejay may leave for another team or stay and work to support Porte?
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shady
Trad climber
hasbeen
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Jul 22, 2015 - 09:15am PT
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Sagan did have an awesome descent. A bike handling clinic. Prolly my favorite rider these days.
Crash Barguil's team manager should have Sagans descent video playing on loop in his hotel rooms for the rest of the tour.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 22, 2015 - 10:43am PT
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Sagan is always mixing it up. He makes any race more entertaining. His decending was awesome. He just made his move a little too late.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 22, 2015 - 10:45am PT
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Fare thee well TJ . . . you gave it a great effort.
So many variables.
Sagan is the best "all arounder" in the sport. He has incredible abilities.
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shady
Trad climber
hasbeen
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Jul 24, 2015 - 07:44am PT
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Another one showing huge amounts of heart is Vincenzo Nibli.
It's so rare these days to see a rider in his position continue to attack.
Deliberate or unintended heat?
I've heard both Phil and Paul make direct comparisons this year between Froome and the infamous LA. Where as in the last few years they may have referred to the Postal team, but not the verboten one.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jul 24, 2015 - 09:07am PT
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I noticed that also, someone actually mentioning Lance. The first time Paul did it there was an uncomfortable silence. :)
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 24, 2015 - 09:13am PT
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Good to see Nibbles fighting and on the attack.
Not sure where Phil and Paul were going with that comparison....hmmm.
Edit:
Quintana picking up time on Froome was also intersting
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Gazelle
climber
The couch
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Jul 24, 2015 - 07:47pm PT
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It seems that Nibali's timing for his attack was unfortunate as it looks from the pics and video that he chose to launch just when Froome was having a mechanical.
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shady
Trad climber
hasbeen
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Jul 24, 2015 - 09:04pm PT
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I don't really have a problem with Nibali's attack.
If it were a wreck, or fan interference then yeah sure. But this is a race, a competition, it doesn't need to come to a halt just because the leader needs to fart, or fumbles with his water bottle. (ala Menchov/Di Luca) or can't figure out how to shift his bike properly. (ala Contador/schleck) Luck is a fickle thing, good or bad.
And you gotta admit, it sure spiced up the monotone drone this race had become.
I also know you experienced cycling fans saw the fuse was lit on Quintana's attack.
While Phil and Paul were writing him, Valverde and Contador off, you could see Valverde, Contador and Froome were uncomfortable, constantly in and out of their saddles, while Quintana was calmly spinning in his.
Now, who's up for a relaxing ride up Alpe D'huez?
Edit:
A question for my roadie/racing friends:
While descending, why don't more road cyclists adopt the "ass behind the seat" braking style of mountain bikers that was so wonderfuly demonstrated by Peter Sagan?
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Spiny Norman
Social climber
Boring, Oregon
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Jul 24, 2015 - 09:48pm PT
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Totally agreed, Shady. Nibali did exactly what he should have done.
Froome was full of sh#t, pissed off because he got caught with his pants down today, and is going to actually have to work on Alpe d'Huez tomorrow. What a f*#king whiner.
Can you imagine Hinault or LeMond or Hampsten whining like that?
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10b4me
Social climber
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Jul 24, 2015 - 10:30pm PT
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A question for my roadie/racing friends:
While descending, why don't more road cyclists adopt the "ass behind the seat" breaking style of mountain bikers that was so wonderfuly demonstrated by Peter Sagan?Quote Here
The ass behind the seat is designed keep the weight over the rear wheel, and in the case of hard tails, keep that rear for bouncing all over the place.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 25, 2015 - 07:09am PT
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Go Quintana!!!!
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jul 25, 2015 - 07:14am PT
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Ain't gonna happen. I think Froome will hang on...but what a stage!
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 25, 2015 - 07:24am PT
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Q is going all in
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 25, 2015 - 08:49am PT
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That was tremendous! Every bit as good as I had hoped.
I think some of the fans had been drinking. Imagine racing a bike up-hill through a ten-mile-long open-air insane asylum, where booze is served for breakfast.
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Mtbphoto
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, Ca
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Jul 25, 2015 - 12:12pm PT
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That was a dam good last climb! Anyone else hear everyone in that one corner booing Froome? After watching every stage, I am glad to say I haven't switched to DirecTV even after watching 500 of those commercials.
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The Call Of K2 Lou
Mountain climber
North Shore, BC
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Jul 25, 2015 - 01:04pm PT
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It would've been damn cool to see Ryder's name inscribed on one of the hairpins. Maybe next year!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jul 25, 2015 - 01:17pm PT
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After watching every stage, I am glad to say I haven't switched to DirecTV even after watching 500 of those commercials.
Wouldn't have helped, you still would have seen the same 500 commercials
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 25, 2015 - 02:12pm PT
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They weren't booing. They were shouting "Froooooome!"
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shady
Trad climber
hasbeen
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Jul 25, 2015 - 09:54pm PT
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Quintana's ride was truly inspirational.
So many times I've watched as competitors in his position were content to safely suck the rear wheel of the yellow jersey for fear they might crack and lose their position on the podium.
ˇViva, El Torito bravo!
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Aug 12, 2015 - 08:54am PT
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Well this thread was a bust
I wouldn't tune during the tour because someone would post the results at 6 in the morning
Besides whining about the past ... I do have a comment
Was Froome using smaller crank arms?
He seemed to be spinning smaller circles, any one else notice that.
I guess I could Google it, if no one else knows
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 12, 2015 - 09:07am PT
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wondering why he came into the corner at the speed he did... :S
He was way inside on the shoulder hit a bump and is actually airborne before he hit the corner. (brakes don't work too good if the wheels aren't on the ground.)
The bigger question is why did the bonehead on the motorcycle stop mid turn and cause the second crash.
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hb81
climber
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Aug 12, 2015 - 09:58am PT
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Yeah, looking at it in slowmo I see he's already skidding sideways when he comes into frame and then loses control completely.
Maybe hitting that car was a blessing in disguise even, he would have gone straight into the spectators behind otherwise. Or, if they'd manage to dodge, the trees then.
And yeah, the motorbikes stopping where they did was a really bad choice.
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Gunkie
climber
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Aug 12, 2015 - 10:36am PT
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He's feeling good...
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Aug 12, 2015 - 11:37am PT
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Froome was using Talo's osymetric (non-round)chain rings, which he claims provides him a 5 percent advantage. They look a little different when he is spinning.
The tour of Utah crash was really bad. Glad he is okay.
At the Red Rocks century ride I did on Saturday I was coming down a hill and a cyclist in front of me was in the ditch. Crashed at high speed. Carbon forks snapped in half. We did what we could for him but he died on impact.
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The Call Of K2 Lou
Mountain climber
North Shore, BC
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Aug 12, 2015 - 01:49pm PT
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Froome was using Talo's osymetric (non-round)chain rings, which he claims provides him a 5 percent advantage. They look a little different when he is spinning.
All the oval chainrings in the world are no replacement for souplesse.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Aug 12, 2015 - 04:10pm PT
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Regarding's Matt Brammeier's horrific crash at the Tour of Utah....
there were a lot of extenuating circumstances. He was off the back of the main peloton so, he was going very fast trying to get back on. Also, because he was off the back, he was having to deal with getting around the team cars and support vehicles. This causes riders to take bad lines. All this adds up to a very dangerous situation.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Aug 12, 2015 - 04:40pm PT
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Osymetric – Gimmick or Legit?
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2012/09/osymetric-gimmick-or-miracle/
At this year's Tour de France I met an interesting gentleman named Jean-Louis Talo. He was carrying a set of these wacky looking chainrings that I had seen around so I struck up a conversation. I had seen them being used on most of the Team SKY bikes as well as knowing that a few other pros were using them which started to pique my curiosity. As it turns out Jean-Louis is the inventor of Osymetric and he was happy to explain them to me.
The Dead Spot
Jean-Louis Talo is a biomechanical engineer who created the Osymetric chainrings 21 years ago. He understood the theory of “the dead spot” and wanted to improve the efficiency and dynamics of the pedaling cycle. What is this mythical dead spot? The theory states that it is the weakest part of your peal stroke where the crankarms are in the 12 and 6 o’clock positions . Imagine a piston at the very top and bottom of its cycle. There is significantly less power being generated at this transitional point. The shape of the Osymetric rings attempts to concentrate your pedaling power where your force is at a maximum, while effectively reducing the load where your power input is at a minimum. This decreased chainring radius helps you go faster through the dead spot. For example, for a 56T (Osymetric) at the top position (the dead spot) it is not a 56t, it is equivalent to a 52t (easier to think of it being the same diameter as 52t at this position). So, where you are at your weakest, the chainrings are at their smallest to help you go through that quicker. Where you are strong is where the maximum diameter of the chainring is. At the end you have a constant speed of rotation.
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