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skitch
climber
East of Heaven
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 30, 2014 - 03:15pm PT
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Would you rather:
Live where you love and have a job you really don't like
Or
Have a job you like and live someplace you are "okay" with?
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pc
climber
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Sep 30, 2014 - 03:17pm PT
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Job because Supertopo is everywhere...
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Sep 30, 2014 - 03:52pm PT
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Location
F*#k jobs
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Sep 30, 2014 - 03:59pm PT
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I'm going with Location. I can work anywhere.
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MisterE
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Sep 30, 2014 - 04:04pm PT
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Don't be a slave to culture.
Location, and figure out how to make it work - the universe supports your decision to live in a better place.
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skitch
climber
East of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2014 - 04:37pm PT
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I think I'm just not made for a world that requires me to work. . .at least not in todays work culture.
If I was a caveman I would be a hunting fool, and dead 10 years ago. . .
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AerialElf
Trad climber
Squamish, BC
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Sep 30, 2014 - 04:46pm PT
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Location! Would hate to live in a place I didn't like. I am lucky - my work goes with me everywhere I go. I also hate to have a job I don't like. Been there, done that. No more.
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jstan
climber
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Sep 30, 2014 - 04:46pm PT
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I think I'm just not made for a world that requires me to work Sk
The world also fails to require you to be alive.
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Daphne
Trad climber
Northern California
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Sep 30, 2014 - 05:37pm PT
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Supposedly
A fifth more deaths happen on a Monday and it is the most common day to die of a heart attack.
I think its because of all the people going back to jobs they hate. If i had to choose, Id pick work i love so i have more years in my life to get away to places i love.
Thanks for the reminder that I am so dang lucky to be doing work i passionately love while living in such a beautiful area
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Sep 30, 2014 - 05:42pm PT
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If you had the good fortune of being around SW Colorado the last three weeks, you would answer location!
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Sep 30, 2014 - 06:09pm PT
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Location w/o a job gets a little tough. I would say it is on a continuum.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Sep 30, 2014 - 06:13pm PT
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You sure do ask a lot of questions Skitch. Nothing wrong with that. I go with location.
Moose your first response cracked me up.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Sep 30, 2014 - 06:19pm PT
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I think I'm just not made for a world that requires me to work
Same here.
I think work is overrated.
Skitch is like American Avery with all his questions.
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MisterE
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Sep 30, 2014 - 06:23pm PT
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They are good questions, sometimes...
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Sep 30, 2014 - 06:35pm PT
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Location.
You can always change jobs but you can't ask mountains to grow in the suburbs. Don't all jobs kinda suck anyway? If you say work then I think that you've already lost. A career is a job that takes too long. My work has its rewards but each finished job brings back the joys of the first day of summer. Today, again, ii am free of work's schedule. Listen to the MooseJoy caused from seeing his job fade in the rear view.
Han-shan has his critics too:
‘Your poems, there’s nothing in them!’
I think of men of ancient times,
Poor, humble, but not ashamed.
Let him laugh at me and say:
‘It’s all foolishness, your work!’
Let him go on as he is,
All his life lost making money.
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matlinb
Trad climber
Albuquerque
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Sep 30, 2014 - 08:21pm PT
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I would be in the minority, but a decent job goes a long, long, way. I have had a few in life that ate away at me. Many places are what you make of it. Of course, I assume you are not talking about the midwest or North Dakota or something like that.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Sep 30, 2014 - 08:53pm PT
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The weekend warriors always seem to get after it better than the locals do.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Sep 30, 2014 - 09:02pm PT
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In Anchorage you can have both.
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Sep 30, 2014 - 09:05pm PT
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I agree with you mat...I don't see why the two need to be mutually exclusive , but work has many transcendental values . Self worth , being useful and needed by others, contributing to society , or at least participating . We derive value and self meaning through our careers , and yes I make the distinction between a career path and just some job to make ends meet.
That being said , I'm already looking forward to retirement !
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Sep 30, 2014 - 09:27pm PT
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If I could start over, I'd say location. Instead, I'm stranded by kids in high school, a great house, and a great job in a reasonable location, minus my best friends. Could be much worse.
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caughtinside
Social climber
Oakland, CA
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Sep 30, 2014 - 09:48pm PT
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Thinking of it in a binary way is a sure way to lose
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Location when you're young, because you gotta get sh#t done while you can. The rage of youth, big walls, extreme skiing, base jumping....
Job when you're older, because you wanna retire eventually and don't wanna be working at Walmart when you're 75 years old.....
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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When I got out of college I was flat broke and in debt. I needed a job and a good one. I moved from Oregon to San Diego, the only place on the west coast in 1974 that had much work in my field. The first two years there was great the second two I couldn't wait to leave but what it did accomplish was getting marketable training. I moved to where I really wanted to live with skills and experience that helped me set up a business and secure a future for myself and my family.
I admire the kids these days. My oldest has always sought great places to live first and simply figured out a way to make a living second. He has a professional degree and is living in Bozeman MT with his family and has managed to figure a gig that is building a future.
Bottom line follow your heart, when it speaks listen. I'm sorry for so many of my contemporaries who have spent their entire lives living somewhere that doesn't fit who they are and talk about moving once they retire. Life isn't a dress rehearsal don't postpone your happiness.
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skitch
climber
East of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2014 - 08:23am PT
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I have to ask questions, I don't know everything yet like you guys.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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The decision depends a lot on the individual- if you have a rewarding career that holds a part of your identity and contributes to your meaning in life, or if it pays you well enough to enable other things in life that contribute to your identity and sense of meaning, then you make concessions to keep that.
The things that give my life meaning require me to hold a steady job and move based on where my wifey can have the same for herself. Hanging out here helps keep the climbing spirit alive in me, even if the body doesn't partake as much for the next few years.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
East Coast US
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When I was footloose and fancy free... Location
Now... Job
(because even if I was in the perfect location, kids & house responsibilities would severely limit my fun time anyway)
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Location.
I have been lucky in both place and work in life. I did follow a woman around for 2-3 years and if anything I learned a lot about what I don't like in a place. Place can shape folks and being somewhat social, there were some speedy-rooster zones from that experience that I am glad to have experienced and even more glad to be away from. For me, I don't like the idea of needing to travel to fix on gettin' my fix on. I like the lonely mountains. I do not care if they are a 'mecca', popular or the gnar. I just like natural(for the most part) topographically interrupted space with nice ele gains and some shear faces here and there for the pepper effects. Money means little to me as well(my micro house and old trusty car help hella with that) so that helps with what kind of job I would need.
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