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Michael Hjorth
Trad climber
Copenhagen, Denmark
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Aug 23, 2014 - 08:48am PT
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mfm: Damn, I had hoped to be able to answer your question...! But it doesn't say in the caption of Issue #1. Only that the photographer was John Hartley (who ever that was...).
I have almost a full Mountain Mag serie from 1 to 145, unfortunately except #2,3,5,8 & 18. A never dwindling source of reading material.
Anyone out there who can help me out with those six issues...?
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Aug 23, 2014 - 09:17am PT
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"During the descent they chopped a good portion of the Compressor route, including the entire headwall and one of the pitches below. The Compressor route is no more."
Platform for old and new idiots, but there were always gems every few issues that made the digging worth it.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Aug 23, 2014 - 09:58am PT
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Since the demise of Vulgarian Digest, things have never been the same!
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Aug 23, 2014 - 10:18am PT
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Butt who is The Dude Up There?
Can I guess...Trevor Jones?
I have a pile of extras of Climbing and Rock and Ice if anyone's trying to fill their collection in. Summit too.
I need...
Climbing 7, 9, 11, 91, 107, 284, 311, 313-321 and 323-326.
Rock and Ice 16, 37, 202, 210, 215 and 217.
Cheers!
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 23, 2014 - 11:08am PT
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Stuck in a backwater like I am I would eat up everything on climbing I could find. I think we should start a new one that goes something like this old retired guy(and gals)adventure stories retold. Stories by guido, Tom Cochran. Donini and such would be eaten up by a lot of people.
Dingus McGee once told me about giving a mountain goat an abortion. He found goat that was giving birth to a still born kid, but the fetus had not exited and the goat was obviously debilitated because of it. He and some friends wrestled it down and pulled it out not without some major effort. It apparently saved the goats life. Tom's story of flying into the winds in winter and then getting rescued by the first snowmobile in the state of Wyoming is such a classic story. Donini can spill the dirt on most of the old climbers the day and seems willing seems very willing to do so in person. He could have a monthly column.
Just a few thoughts and I honestly believe even today's hot young climbers are going to enjoy reading that more than who put up the 10,000ed 5.14. There is a place for technique, gear reviews, ads, and other stuff. I just wish it was a smaller place.
On second thought I think it should all be politics and religion.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Aug 23, 2014 - 11:52am PT
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Ahhh, people have always bitched about the mags.
Right now, Rock & Ice is rolling.
Go to the website and sign up for their weekly TNB article. They are written by various people, and often funny as hell.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Aug 23, 2014 - 11:54am PT
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Hey Brian - for what it's worth, Issue 202 of Rock And Ice appears to be the issue of ASCENT for 2012. Just mentioning as it doesn't have a number on the spine (or inside as far as I can see), but the ensuing issues of ASCENT are definitely counted as issue number (number on spine).
Edit: I'm missing R&I 2 through 11, and 37 if you have dupes of any of those or anyone else has them.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 23, 2014 - 03:44pm PT
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"Of course my big beef is there isn't enough funny stuff in the mags.
Everyone is so damn dour and dire and melodramatic."--PoodlePusher
Edit--
The Sheridan appeared in the Jim Perrin review below.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 23, 2014 - 04:00pm PT
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Mountain ran an intermittent series of reports from Camp 4 or Valley-based ‘correspondents’ who came and went, but who actually knew the scene or enough about the haps to make a report that might sound credible and informed. This reportage, along with similar reports from around the climbing meccas later mutated into their INFO section.
Werner, you didn’t miss much by not reading magazines. You were f*#kin’ THERE!
You should have had your turn as a correspondent for Mountain, dude.
I can imagine your reports, mostly one-liners--
“Two Frenchies came and did the Salathe. Big deal.”
“Nobody died this month. No big deal.”
"Dale climbed all day today. All day yesterday. All day the day before. I still got him beat."
“Stupid North American Wall was done in record time by a six-idiot team of insane clowns. Whoop whoop!”
In my day, the funniest man writing in Mountain was Ian McNaught-Davies.
Michael Hjorth, thanks. And there is no help here on this sparklingly WITTY page, either.
Well, chalk it up to Wilson's ineptitude. What a twit, not mentioning Dude' actual NAME! It could be Welsh Jebus! Or Dingus Milkington of Tremadoc! Famous in their day. Now, who knows what van they might be living in down by the Test?
Also, Michael, here is this, too, from the Classifieds of Climbing.
Good luck, bud.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Aug 23, 2014 - 04:55pm PT
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Hey Brian - for what it's worth, Issue 202 of Rock And Ice appears to be the issue of ASCENT for 2012. Just mentioning as it doesn't have a number on the spine (or inside as far as I can see), but the ensuing issues of ASCENT are definitely counted as issue number (number on spine).
Edit: I'm missing R&I 2 through 11, and 37 if you have dupes of any of those or anyone else has them.
Ahh...yeah...forgot, as, I filed those Ascents with that earlier run. Accounts for 202 and 210 issues of R&I. Thanks!
Looked through my mag's for ya...most of my older doubles are climbing starting around issue 37 or so. R&I doubles start later than the ones you're looking for.
Its a curse...ha ha...
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Michael Hjorth
Trad climber
Copenhagen, Denmark
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Aug 23, 2014 - 04:58pm PT
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Those Mountain issues of Embicks? Somewhat too late, sad to say...!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 23, 2014 - 06:33pm PT
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Oh, sh!t. That never really occurred to me. Believe me, I'm sorry if it offended anyone. I only knew Dr. Andy thru Roy Naasz.
Three climbing Andys I have known,
Two climbing Andys now have flown,
And e-nuff said on that sad subject.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Aug 23, 2014 - 07:43pm PT
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Wow mouse, mountain #1!
Mike, if you started climbing in '91, I think you don't, remember when climbing mags were awesome.... Mountain was the main one, but summit, off belay, North American climber. As well as glmbing and the late starter r&i had real content back.
Clearly, the internet changed the whole scene. But the need for increased sales / ad revenue did it too, seemingly a bit earlier.
There was an inflection point in the early nineties when the mags switched from a forum for participants to a sports illustrated style, spectator sport style model.
Alpinist is the last harkening back to the good stuff.
The Climbing Art was a small circulation literary climbing mag. We will probably never see that format again! Sigh..
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Aug 23, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
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I started climbing in 1974.
I collected full sets of Climbing, Rock & Ice and Mountain magazines, from #1 up to the most recent issues.
Except, of course, Mountain magazine which went out of print, but I had the entire set.
I am selling off my entire collection of books and magazines.
All of the magazines have already been sold.
I had plans to spend my retirement sitting around a reading every single page of all of those magazines, but I decided to lighten my load and get rid of everything. I am too old to climb, but recently I got into fighting, so now fight every week instead and it keeps me young. Don't need no climbing books or magazines anymore.
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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Aug 23, 2014 - 11:51pm PT
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You had to like "Summit," a magazine so amateurish it reeked of virtue. It witnessed the evolution of climbing from the mysterious and often sublime challenge of exploration to the revelatory celebration of secure and certain athletic achievement. Articles by Robbins and Rowell and others captured a zeitgeist that is, unfortunately, gone forever.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Aug 24, 2014 - 01:13am PT
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What ever happened to hot belayer magazine?
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jstan
climber
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Aug 24, 2014 - 01:29am PT
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WBraun
climber
Aug 22, 2014 - 08:14pm PT
Remember when climbing magazines were great.
What's in in them anyways?
I never read em nor have I ever bought one .....
apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Aug 22, 2014 - 08:24pm PT
This crowd is something else.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Aug 24, 2014 - 01:33am PT
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Now that's what I'm talking about ^^^^^^ HO HOT BELAYER.
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jstan
climber
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Aug 24, 2014 - 01:47am PT
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Back when the magazines were good any time you saw a woman with rope burns around her waist, you knew it was safe to move in. Then the damn magazines went to hell......
Now we have to go to Stanford to get a Project Management Professional Certificate. How bad do you suppose this is going to get?
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