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caughtinside

Social climber
Oakland, CA
Aug 26, 2014 - 10:45am PT
hah. Should have known better. I did enjoy the original troll though. Carry on.
skitch

climber
East of Heaven
Aug 26, 2014 - 11:45am PT
I'm cool with Burning Man, just wish they could all magically get there without driving their POS pollution machines down 395!!!

I wish all of those people could figure out a way to stay at burning man all year, forever!!! I'd even chip in to do air drops of ex, heroin, etc!!!

ANYTHING that will prevent me from ever hearing another person stutter:


"And this one time at bur. . . bur. . . bur. . . ahhh burning man I was soooooo high on "fill in the blank drug" and this really amazing per per per per ahh person like totally ugh like totally looked into my ughh. . . my soul and said the most beautiful thing. . . you know what burning man is??? (no wait for response) Burning man is like whatever you need it to be man. . ."
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 26, 2014 - 10:39pm PT
What's with the visceral hate from the ignorant? I guess that I can understand indifference to art , creativity and fantastic engineering but why the knee-jerk hater response? If you haven't been then you don't know what it's about. It's pretty hard to f*#k up something as dead as the Playa. Hate on.
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 26, 2014 - 10:43pm PT
My knees are jerks. They dont like the whole procession of the burning man.

Seriously though, just drove back up from the bay monday morning, it was a constant trail of obvious burner flotsam and jetsam in the right lane of 80, just garbage everywhere from all the crap on trailers and so on...fur and sparklies and just...crap.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Aug 26, 2014 - 10:50pm PT
From "the ignorant"? You, like, don't understand, maaaaaan. You never will! The attitude is so.... me at 18 yo, LOL!

For myself, I am pretty much over the hate thing. I do hate almost hitting burner luggage that was poorly secured and dropped off the top of dad's camper van, or whatnot here at speed on the 395, but hating Burning Man has jumped the shark as badly as the phrase jumped the shark itself. That doesn't make BM [snark!] cool by any means, and I'm pretty happy with my peripheral level of involvement treating burners at the hospital, seeing the cavalcade of RVs and hippy busses with what look like techno desert prostitutes pouring out of them at Walmart, aka lower middle class America. I could even go for free and enjoy the people watching, but I enjoy other things in life far more to dedicate my free time to that and am not yet at a place where I can rationalize feeding young chicks drugs so they'll screw me as "conscious living". Give me some more hair loss and a divorce, and maybe you'll see me there though, telling all the haters how they will just never get it and how that's sad. In the meantime, I will silently laugh.
W.L.

climber
Edge of the Electric Ocean Beneath Red Rock
Aug 27, 2014 - 08:35am PT
What's with the visceral hate from the ignorant? I guess that I can understand indifference to art , creativity and fantastic engineering but why the knee-jerk hater response? If you haven't been then you don't know what it's about. It's pretty hard to f*#k up something as dead as the Playa. Hate on.

Something as dead as the playa?

The only "ignorance" demonstrated here is that of the playa ecosystem. Perhaps when the burners apply for their rave in the desert tickets, compulsory playa education should be necessary.

Believe it or not, something can be alive even if the creatures inhaibiting it are not large mammals. Driving on wet playa, aside from having an awful visual impact, can also lead to harsh disruptions of the ecosystem. Further, even driving on dry playa can have a significant but not as severe impact.

Some reading material for Black Rock City Elementary School students...

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/nv/field_offices/winnemucca_field_office/nca_pdfs.Par.30693.File.dat/Black%20Rock%20Playa%20DRI%20Report.pdf
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Aug 27, 2014 - 08:43am PT
Is it as stupid as a Rainbow Gathering?
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 27, 2014 - 08:47am PT
Stupider...as stupid as their 'radical self-reliance'....thats not self reliance, especially with a med tent on site and people being mobilized out to reno hospitals....etc, etc. Just cant wait for it to come and go, and for street vibrations to come and go to recover a bit of a peaceful period around here till ski madness starts (maybe)
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Aug 27, 2014 - 08:58am PT
Personally, the Playa ecosystem/Burner environmental impacts argument is a bit too hypocritical a point for me to make in a locale that celebrates old gas guzzling cars and fat dudes eating ribs on a hog on their way to the air show in a State whose major economy besides gambling and gaudy entertainment is exploiting mineral wealth. It's a fun argument to make though, much like poking at Christians because by the standards of their own required reading they are hypocritical a holes.
W.L.

climber
Edge of the Electric Ocean Beneath Red Rock
Aug 27, 2014 - 09:01am PT
Again, my main point is mostly to poke fun at the hypocrisy and ignorance of the BM folks that claim there is zero impact after their event and zero trace. False. Especially when they are driving on wet playa...the visual impact from that is not quickly repaired. But hell, it's all just desert out in Nevadastan....

Plus those 70,000 people out there, they're all REAL free thinkers...yep, definitely not the latest wave in bro'd out festivals. Definitely not one of the groups out there that tries way too hard while being "counter-culture." Much of their mentality seems to have not outgrown adolescence
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Aug 27, 2014 - 09:07am PT
I get it. Hypocrisy is fun to point out for sure. I just don't think it's a winner of an argument, more an exercise in selecting standards. But I really don't know what burners claim their impact is or care. My only beef is with anybody who has pretensions it's really anything more than partying. And that is more like a little beef nugglet of contention. Party on burners, I'm sure NV will continue to begrudgingly take your duckets.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Aug 27, 2014 - 09:10am PT
Man, I can get grumpy, curmudgeonly, and cynical...but jeez la f*#king weez.
W.L.

climber
Edge of the Electric Ocean Beneath Red Rock
Aug 27, 2014 - 09:12am PT
jefe, if you had to put up with these people for years...it is very easy to get crusty about. Notice that most of us who are particularly crusty have lived along the path from the Bay to Burning Man.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Aug 27, 2014 - 09:19am PT
WL
You live in a neighborhood of breeder boxes and cul de sacs that shouldn't even be there.
F*#king computer f*#ks and freeway flyers, wasteful and ignorant, all of you.
See?

I've never been to BM, no desire...maybe years ago before it became what it is today.
But to paint with such large strokes is lame, as some of the most incredible people I know have been longtime burners.....or lived in disposable stucco breeder boxes.
See?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 27, 2014 - 09:20am PT
My Burning Man.





Credit: survival
KabalaArch

Trad climber
Starlite, California
Aug 27, 2014 - 09:29am PT
Altamont alumni death of the Woodstock Nation.

)'( looks beyond apocalyptic, but whatever.

Burners advised to avoid Mono County, due to last year's LEO interdiction. Local voters responded by ejecting the incumbent Sheriff (like, let's get some of that $35m !), but I personally wouldn't want to lean on that sea change too hard at this point.

I understand.
I just don't care.
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 27, 2014 - 09:33am PT
well jefe,
if you lived here and had to put up with it too, your tune might be a little different. Its pretty ridiculous and affects everybody in the area, not everyone likes the mess that it brings to town. its pretty extreme.

some of the best people ive ever known have had cancer or heart disease, i dont have to like cancer or heart diease.....
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Aug 27, 2014 - 09:35am PT
Like I said, I understand being curmudgeonly.

edit: as in I'd probably be over it too.
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 27, 2014 - 09:35am PT
i dont care what anyone calls it
Daphne

Trad climber
Northern California
Aug 27, 2014 - 09:41am PT
I've been sitting here trying to think of an appropriate metaphor for the hate. This is what came to me: when i was an adolescent in el paso texas, i loved heavy metal and the rock music of the seventies. I could play iron man on my guitar. That music spoke for me in a way i wasnt able of the emotions of my messed up adolescence. My father hated that music and said hateful things about me and my love for it.

Those who persist in their hating of burners are kind of like my father hating my music. You could simply say, as i do today, that dub step is not my preference. Or that mysoginistic and violent rap doesnt do it for me. But instead, you hate and express the hate. And most of you haters have absolutely no idea of the complexity of experience possible at burning man.

I always wish you would just say: i dont want to go, it isnt my cup of tea, the burner tourons impede my normal every day existence and i am an impatient person so they bother me. I wish they would go away so my normal existence could proceed unimpeded.

I think you derive something from the hating that feels positive to you. If that is so, that is why that phrase "haters gonna hate" exists.


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