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bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 9, 2014 - 06:51pm PT
Can somebody explain how a country that has been constantly at war for about a century and has actually dropped nuclear weapons on humans is in the middle 20% on the Global Peace Index?

Do you understand who started the wars that you refer to that resulted in us dropping 2 nukes? Do you understand that 2 warnings were issued to the Japs before said nukes were dropped?

They refused both surrender options, even the second one after we proved that we meant business. And yeah, more people would have died if we did a ground invasion. Dropping the nukes was a wise, strategic decision.

^^^ nothing will ever end the stupidity of people who think everything is about Islam.

It's about money and power.

Stupid Americans.

All Islamist terrorists kill directly in the name of Allah. How does that have nothing to do with Islam? They f*#king CALL THEMSELVES the Islamic State!

The Fort Hood shooter just sent a letter to the Pope declaring jihad in the name of Allah, and said he hated all other religions.

New developments in Iraq. ISIS got ahold of MANPADS surface-to-air rockets.
http://patdollard.com/2014/10/isis-uses-manpads-to-down-iraqi-chopper/

Are these the same MANPADS that the CIA (and Amb. Stevens) was trying to recover in Benghazi, Libya?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 9, 2014 - 06:58pm PT
As these lines are being written, some 400,000 Kurds in and around the town of Kobane in northern Syria, on the Turkish border, are being besieged and assaulted by massed legions of Islamic State killers armed with scores of tanks, armored personnel carriers, and heavy artillery. Against these, the Kurdish defenders have only AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades. The Kurds have called on the U.S. to send in air strikes to take out the jihadist forces. In response, the administration sent in two fighter jets Saturday, which destroyed two Islamic State tanks and then flew away. The Kurds are begging for arms. The administration has not only refused to send arms, but is exerting pressure both on our NATO allies and on Israel not to send any either. Over 150,000 Kurds have fled their homes to try to escape to Turkey, but they are being blocked at the border by Turkish troops. Meanwhile, Turkey is allowing Islamist reinforcements to enter Syria to join the Islamic State, while Islamist elements of the Free Syrian Army, funded and armed by the United States, have joined forces with the group in the genocidal assault on the Kurdish enclave.

According to Kurdish sources, the Turks are massing troops on their own side of the border, with the apparent plan being to sit in place and allow the Kurds to be exterminated, and then move in to take over the region once they are gone...For an American administration to collude in such a mass atrocity is infamous.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/389096/obama-betrays-kurds-robert-zubrin

Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Oct 9, 2014 - 07:01pm PT
And how do you feel about legalizing the smoking of other substances?

The point is perspective and what's really killing mass quantities of people, but I'll give you credit for trying to change the subject with a non sequitur question.

Cannabis has medically proven benefits, so I approve it. Frankly, I personally would not smoke it but rather eat it for a longer, more mellow effect that doesn't leave me coughing and accidentally drinking old bong water...
Binks

climber
Uranus
Oct 9, 2014 - 07:29pm PT
it's the end of the world as we know it and i feel fine...
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 9, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
Sorry Locker, but it ain't no joke.

We have a POTUS that is an active conspirator in a genocide.

but then that's nothing new.

so was Andrew Jackson
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 9, 2014 - 08:07pm PT
The point is perspective and what's really killing mass quantities of people, but I'll give you credit for trying to change the subject with a non sequitur question.

Cannabis has medically proven benefits, so I approve it. Frankly, I personally would not smoke it but rather eat it for a longer, more mellow effect that doesn't leave me coughing and accidentally drinking old bong water...


The dangers of tobacco smoke come from carcinogens. If there are no additives to tobacco smoke, only smoking leaves, is that just "as natural" as marijuana?

It's not. Marijuana, whether eaten or smoked, contains many toxic compounds not found in tobacco. And that's just if it's grown in a "clean" environment. The outdoor sh#t is often grown within heavy metals like the dreaded Quicksilver, or Mercury.

This is especially prevalent in California, home of the Purple Kush, which in my time was THE SH#T.

a reference to why Indians died young in Cali....
http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-living/ci_26690064/nilda-rego-19th-century-quicksilver-mine-had-contentious
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 9, 2014 - 08:15pm PT
Thanks for keeping your eye on the ball. Some people seem to forget that we need to base our national security policy on the actions of a single nutcase in prison.


You're missing the entire point here.

Nidal Hassan is STILL being classified as a "workplace violence" event instead of a terrorism event! What more does it take to fall into 'terrorism'????

It IS INDEED a national security event. And these people, like him, should indeed be monitored and taken down, and then properly labeled as jihadists.

The Oklahoma beheader is still workplace violence too despite all of his rages online about jihad!
crankster

Trad climber
Oct 9, 2014 - 08:24pm PT

Oct 9, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
Sorry Locker, but it ain't no joke.

We have a POTUS that is an active conspirator in a genocide.

but then that's nothing new.

so was Andrew Jackson

You've lost it, martini. Off the deep end.
Send Robert Zubrin to Mars. Now.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Oct 9, 2014 - 09:11pm PT
All Islamist terrorists kill directly in the name of Allah. How does that have nothing to do with Islam? They f*#king CALL THEMSELVES the Islamic State!

Did you ever hear the phrase " for God and Country - Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo"?

That was from a Christian US Navy seal when he killed Bin a Laden. And radioed back to a bunch of Christians in the White House. We even have " in God we trust " on all our money.

Or George Bush's famous " this Crusade is going to take a while"?

If you use the same standard it was done in the name of Christanity.

Focus on the real issues. The Middle East is a place the West carved up a century ago and have murdered civilians in two invasions in the last couple decades. The British learned Aireal bombing on Iraquis seventy years ago. Then they, the French, and we carved up the Middle East across ethnic lines for our own purposes.
Why is there no Kurdish state, for instance? Because it doesn't suit us.


We have killed more Iraqi civilians than isis will in a decade and we did it for the oil.

And we wonder why they hate us.
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Oct 10, 2014 - 09:05am PT
waste? what waste? more splosions please.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 10, 2014 - 09:13am PT

Most of the C-27 transport aircraft given to the Afghanistan military as part of a failed $486 million Defense Department program were locally scrapped for just $32,000, federal auditors said Thursday.

Why, were two engines too complicated? Or were they affronted that those
Alenias only cost us $53 million?
dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Oct 10, 2014 - 09:29am PT
Just can't get your head out of Obamas ass huhh Dr. F.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 11, 2014 - 08:36am PT
Did you ever hear the phrase " for God and Country - Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo"?

Navy Seal follows orders to kill a cult-leader who executes civilians and thanks God and country? I got no problem, you do? And 'Geronimo' was the code-word for Asshat Osama.

We even have " in God we trust " on all our money.

So? We are a country founded on Judeo/Christian principles, AND are still a primarily Christian nation, whether you like it or not...

Or George Bush's famous " this Crusade is going to take a while"?

I don't think he meant that in the historical context, but rather it would be a long road.


Focus on the real issues. The Middle East is a place the West carved up a century ago and have murdered civilians in two invasions in the last couple decades. The British learned Aireal bombing on Iraqis seventy years ago. Then they, the French, and we carved up the Middle East across ethnic lines for our own purposes.

Maybe it was done for their own good. It was carved up on ethno/religious lines. Go back and read what Churchill said about the area when he was serving over there. He referred to them as Mohammedans though.

Also, ask yourself why the peacenik Ghanndi advocated for the separation on India into India/Pakistan, thus separating muzzies and hindus. Was he an 'evil-doer'? And how has that worked out?

There is only one religion that seems to have problems getting along with it's PEACEFUL neighbors. It ain't Christians either, we're usually called upon to sort out the mess after things get really ugly.

Why is there no Kurdish state, for instance?

Good question. I'm in favor of a Kurdistan, but wouldn't that be more of us "nation-building"? Are you being hypocritical here?

We have killed more Iraqi civilians than isis will in a decade and we did it for the oil.

Remains to be seen.

And we wonder why they hate us.


I don't care. I don't wonder. A lot of people 'dislike' me who have no idea of who I am.
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Oct 11, 2014 - 10:18am PT
The shitstorm grows and grows. I wouldn't want to be the president right now:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/11/world/meast/isis-threat/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
Larry Nelson

Social climber
Oct 11, 2014 - 02:28pm PT
I wouldn't necessarily call Islam the religion of peace. Several years ago I worked with several engineers from Egypt and Syria. They were good decent guys, but the religion has some problems. This is a summary of what a friend wrote.

Mohammed is recorded as dying, on or about, 632 AD.
Islam had its own agenda long before the Crusades. If peaceful -- what were Muslim armies doing in Europe 300 years before the Crusades? And hundred of years thereafter?
Seventy-seven years after Mohammed's death, in 711 AD -- some 300 years prior to the first Crusade -- it was Muslim military forces who crossed the Straits of Gibraltar from North Africa into Spain and in less than a decade crossed the Pyrenees.
In 732 AD , the Muslim forces under the command of Abd-er- rahman, were decisively defeated by Charles Martel and the Franks at the Battle of Poitiers [Tours].
800 years later in 1571 the fleet of the Ottoman Empire was defeated at the Battle of Lepanto by the fleet of the Holy League, a combined naval force of Catholic countries led by Don John of Austria and contained vessels from Venice, Spain, the Papal States, Genoa, Savoy, and Malta.
Nine hundred years later, in September 1683 AD -- Ottoman Empire Muslim armies led by the Turkish commander Grand Vizier Kara Mustapha were at the gates of Vienna.
They were defeated by a combination of Austrian, German, and Polish armies.
Islam was not spread by sandal shod mendicant mullahs preaching from the Koran but by mounted scimitar wielding jihadists. If peace was Mohammed's message -- a subtle proposition at best -- his adherents missed the point then and miss it now.
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Oct 11, 2014 - 04:48pm PT
Ghandi was vehemently opposed to partitioning India for the violence he correctly foresaw. Do you even take a moment to fact check before you hit "post"?
Bargainhunter

climber
Oct 11, 2014 - 11:27pm PT
They appear to be arriving in Baghdad. Read the bolded sentences below. Where is the global coalition to stop these pathetic asswipes? The regional apathy is ridiculous.

"Four Bombings Kill Over 50 People Around Baghdad
By KIRK SEMPLEOCT. 11, 2014

BAGHDAD — A rash of bombings in several districts around greater Baghdad on Saturday killed more than 50 people and wounded nearly 100, unnerving the capital on what, for many, was the final day of a weeklong holiday.

A suicide bomber detonated his explosives in a crowded market in Mishahda, in the rural northern outskirts of the capital, killing 14 people and wounding 27, said police officials and an employee at a hospital, all of whom requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the press.

Three more bombings occurred in quick succession around nightfall. A suicide bomber driving a car packed with explosives detonated his payload at a police checkpoint in Khadamiya, a predominantly Shiite middle-class neighborhood in northern Baghdad, killing 12 people, including four police officers, and wounding 20, officials said.

Around the same time, a car packed with explosives exploded next to a marketplace in the predominantly Shiite neighborhood of Shula in northwestern Baghdad, killing eight and wounding 24, officials said.

After the Shula bombing, authorities blocked off the road leading to the scene, causing traffic to back up, and cars were rerouted. The final attack occurred when a suicide car bomber drove his vehicle into the traffic congestion and set off his explosives, killing 17 people and wounding 28, officials said.

No group claimed responsibility for the attacks, but the predominantly Sunni jihadist insurgency called Islamic State, which has taken control of vast regions of the country, often uses suicide bombers and car bombs, usually targeting majority-Shiite neighborhoods. Saturday was the end of a holiday week that began with the celebration of Eid al-Adha, the Islamic Feast of Sacrifice.

Elsewhere in Iraq, fighters for Islamic State, also known as ISIS, killed four brothers, including an Iraqi cameraman for a local television station in Salahuddin Province, which is predominantly Sunni, officials and local tribal leaders said Saturday. The journalist, Raad al-Azzawi, and his brothers were shot in the head on Friday in a village near Tikrit while their mother was forced to watch, the officials said.

Mr. Azzawi was kidnapped on Sept. 7 by the insurgents, who said they planned to decapitate him because he refused to work for them, according to Reporters Without Borders, a watchdog group based in Paris.

Omar al-Jawoshy contributed reporting from Baghdad, and employees of The New York Times from Baghdad and Tikrit, Iraq.

A version of this article appears in print on October 12, 2014, on page A12 of the New York edition with the headline: Bombings Kill Over 50 In Baghdad. "
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 12, 2014 - 03:04am PT
Ghandi was vehemently opposed to partitioning India for the violence he correctly foresaw. Do you even take a moment to fact check before you hit "post"?


Actually, you're correct. For some reason I was under the impression that the peacenik favored the separation.

They're still firing shots, yesterday, across the LOC (line of control) in the disputed Kashmir region.

Makes you really wonder....what will it take?
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Oct 12, 2014 - 04:58am PT
They appear to be arriving in Baghdad. Read the bolded sentences below. Where is the global coalition to stop these pathetic asswipes? The regional apathy is ridiculous.


The Iraqi Army still grossly outnumbers them, if they will only stand and fight with the stuff we gave them.

This is their religion. It will re occur forever. They need to come to some sort of resolution on their own.

Though we should give the millions in refugee camps weapons and tell them to go reclaim their homes.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Oct 12, 2014 - 07:41am PT
Would appear, ISIS, is looking to cut Iraq in half. Probably the way this will go. Three different partitions at the end of the day. At some point, Iran, will have to invade. Prolly around the time that big Shia mosque gets blown up.

The world needs an Islamic State, so Islamic people have somewhere to go, other than blowing themselves up here.

A martyrdom operation west of Tikrit. Iran must not be happy this morning. Guy drives FOUR TONS of explosives, in a truck, into the facility and blows himself up. A simple matter after that, to destroy any stunned survivors. Then grab the weapons the US gave and roll westward.



The armored truck prior to the blast.

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