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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 15, 2014 - 06:43pm PT
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Just heard from my wife that an associate of one of her clients was killed today. Anybody hear anything?
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Jillee1010
Social climber
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Jul 15, 2014 - 09:31pm PT
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Sadly there was a climbers death today. It was our physician at our hospital. He will be missed.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 15, 2014 - 09:38pm PT
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Yes, that matches what I heard. Bummer.
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rubberrat
Trad climber
CA
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Jul 15, 2014 - 09:38pm PT
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Can you elaborate please? Or are details being kept private temporarily?
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Queener
Sport climber
Monterey, CA
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Jul 15, 2014 - 10:36pm PT
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A friend and the nicest person I ever met.
-ky
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 15, 2014 - 10:42pm PT
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hey there say, Banquo...
Banquo... :( so much sadness this week...
folks are here, trying to just let these folks know we care,
thanks for sharing, so this can be done...
very sad to hear of this loss... my condolences, sent out a lot
this week, but very much equal for all...
extra note to Jillee1010, very sad to hear of this, please know this... :(
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Jul 16, 2014 - 06:08am PT
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Sorry Charles to hear this. I wish his loved ones and friends much comfort.
Jon
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jul 16, 2014 - 06:30am PT
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Sorry to hear. My condolences.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2014 - 07:21am PT
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Sad day for climbers. We are always curious about what happened in an accident because we want to understand how something so terrible can happen and so we can learn and avoid the same situation. What I would like to understand is how someone could get into trouble descending from Discovery Wall. I've climbed there many times and in fact, it was the first place I ever went climbing. The only way I've ever descended is to walk back down on the trail. I can't understand how you could get in trouble descending.
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Roxy
Trad climber
CA Central Coast
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Jul 16, 2014 - 07:31am PT
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condolences to family and friends
...when it's time I too would like to learn how this tragedy happened.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jul 16, 2014 - 07:50am PT
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My sincerest condolences to the family & friends. . .
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jul 16, 2014 - 08:51am PT
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Very sorry to read this.
My respect and condolences to this mans family and friends.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jul 16, 2014 - 09:08am PT
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Sad thing.
Its been a tough 3 days for California climbers
My condolences to Family and friends.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jul 16, 2014 - 09:44am PT
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Terrible news. My deepest sympathy to all feeling the loss. It has, indeed, beena terrible three days for California climbers.
John
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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Jul 16, 2014 - 10:50am PT
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Condolences to all and may much better times come your way.
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Jul 16, 2014 - 12:44pm PT
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Sad news. Good thoughts going to family and friends.
Erik
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dirt claud
Social climber
san diego,ca
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Jul 16, 2014 - 12:48pm PT
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Damned it man!! really sorry to hear about this. May his family and friends find peace soon. To those here who knew him sorry for your loss. Condolences to friends and family.
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chill
climber
between the flat part and the blue wobbly thing
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Jul 16, 2014 - 01:02pm PT
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Top-roping accident?
He was on a rope descending a section of the “Liberty Wall” rock face when a piece of belaying equipment held by his friend and climbing partner—who was on the ground securing the other end of Kraut’s rope—apparently malfunctioned.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Jul 16, 2014 - 01:21pm PT
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Really sorry to hear this. Condolences to his loved ones. :(
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Jul 16, 2014 - 02:54pm PT
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Damn.
I hate news like this. Even though I didn't recognize his name, I still hate news like this.
And then I looked at his photo.
I met Joe (Doctor Kraut) once. And I've never forgotten him since.
I met him in January 2009 when I walked to the base of Machete Ridge at Pinnacles with my then 14 year old daughter and other friends. My daughter wanted to lead the 5.6 route there Corona. As we walked to the base we saw that other people were on the route. But they looked like they were almost done. As we reached the base, they pulled their rope and they were done.
The male of the two then turned around and smiled at us. After a short pause he looked at me and then he called me by name. I had no idea who he was, but I admitted that he had my name right. I asked him how he knew me.
He said: "You're the guidebook author!"
I said: "Yes. How did you know?"
Joe: "Your photo is in the book."
(I had to admit it - he had me there.)
He next thanked me very kindly for the effort I had put into the book.
Then Joe turned to my daughter (Katie). He said:
"Is that your dad?"
Katie reluctantly admitted that I was.
Joe said: "That must be so totally cool, having a dad like that. I bet it's great being able to go climbing with him."
Katie was a very (very) normal teenager. She reacted to Joe's comment as any teenager would: Her eyes rolled so deeply into the back of her head that we thought we'd have to rush her to the hospital.
Joe and his friend stayed with us for a while at the base of the climb. We talked climbing and they encouraged my daughter (she led the route clean). I've never forgotten his kindness and, especially, his incredible and obvious passion for climbing. His comments to Katie and her reaction to them have been a family story ever since.
I always wondered whether I'd run into him again.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Jul 16, 2014 - 05:16pm PT
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Wow, what a tragedy.
Pins has a small and diverse group of regular climbers. Sad to hear we lost a member.
Thanks to Gavin and all of the sar team, good people performing at their best.
Brad, excellent post.
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susu
Trad climber
East Bay, CA
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Jul 16, 2014 - 06:46pm PT
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This is so very sad. Deepest condolences to his family and friends.
That is a sweet story Brad.
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lars johansen
Trad climber
West Marin, CA
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Jul 16, 2014 - 07:17pm PT
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Sincere condolences to family and friends. Thanks to Gavin and the SAR team for another great job.
I owe you guys my life.
lars
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 16, 2014 - 07:37pm PT
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Best thoughts and sincerest empathy to all involved in this tragedy.
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rockgirl
Sport climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Jul 16, 2014 - 08:34pm PT
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Tragic. Sounds like the Bay Area lost a good man. :(
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Jul 16, 2014 - 10:50pm PT
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... a piece of belaying equipment ... apparently malfunctioned. Is that so.
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E Robinson
climber
Salinas, CA
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Jul 16, 2014 - 10:55pm PT
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Very sad, my thoughts are with Joe's family.
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Griffin
Trad climber
Monterey, CA
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Jul 17, 2014 - 02:31am PT
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This is truly saddening. I send my best wishes and support to Joe's friends and family. There is no doubt that the pinnacles has lost a great individual. All my support to my good friends grieving in the Sanctuary community.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jul 17, 2014 - 11:25am PT
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From the article it sounds like help arrived very quickly, due in part to the fact that his partner had an emergency whistle, how many people carry one of those? Probably a good idea. Supertopo got a link in that article.
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CCT
Trad climber
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Jul 18, 2014 - 09:06am PT
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Many sympathies to friends and family. It sounds like Joe was a truly wonderful man, and our community has lost a valued member.
When the time is right, would it be possible for someone who is aware, to post the details of the accident? If a gri-gri or ATC failed, it would be good to know the details. If something else happened, I would like to be able to guard against it in my own climbing.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Jul 18, 2014 - 09:24am PT
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Pinnacles will be conducting an investigation and releasing information in due time. To the best of my knowledge it is the first fatality in the park since 2000. Please, again, do not put stock in the equipment failure line from the article, since they couldn't be bothered to confirm there is no "Liberty Wall" at Pinnacles I do not trust their information.
Charles
The lives of the climbers and friends and families were changed in less than 2 seconds. The cause will be determined. Speculation can certainly wait for a couple weeks.
Peace.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Jul 18, 2014 - 09:33am PT
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From Brad's encounter with Joe it's clear he was a generous and kind man. I'm very sad to hear of this accident. Young people often remember chance encounters with kind "strangers" for years. My best to Joe's family and friends and Katie.
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r2d2
Trad climber
East Bay
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Jul 18, 2014 - 12:18pm PT
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Brad,
I think I was there with you,Katie and other friends that day. What a sad news! So sorry to hear that. :(
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Jul 18, 2014 - 12:23pm PT
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Jenn,
Yes, you and Laura ("cover girl") were with us. So you recall that day too?
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r2d2
Trad climber
East Bay
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Jul 18, 2014 - 12:28pm PT
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Yes, I remembered his friendly smile.
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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Jul 18, 2014 - 01:44pm PT
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Very sad. My condolences.
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MoBart
climber
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Jul 18, 2014 - 02:59pm PT
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Please, again, do not put stock in the equipment failure line from the article, since they couldn't be bothered to confirm there is no "Liberty Wall" at Pinnacles I do not trust their information.
Charles
No need to be super cunt-y about it. Sheriff's officers (i.e. the people you call on first when there's an accident) make mistakes just like everyone else, and as you would know if you paid attention they corrected the statement: http://www.morganhilltimes.com/news/updated-morgan-hill-doctor-dies-in-climbing-accident/article_eb31cc40-0d1a-11e4-8f7f-001a4bcf6878.html
If you don't trust the sheriff's office don't call them the next time you're in trouble.
RIP Joseph Kraut
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Jul 18, 2014 - 04:14pm PT
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Terrible news. Dr Kraut was the nicest Dr I called on when I worked as a drug rep. Somehow I found out he was a climber and we talked climbing after that far more than we talked drugs. We were supposed to climb together, but never made it happen. RIP Dr Kraut.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Jul 18, 2014 - 08:04pm PT
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If you don't trust the sheriff's office don't call them the next time you're in trouble. I don't and I won't.
But that has nothing to do with any of this tragedy. Nice first post.
Condolences to Joe's family and all who knew him.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jul 18, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
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Hey Charles and everyone else close-
Sorry to hear about this. My heart goes out to you.
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rkraut
climber
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Jul 19, 2014 - 12:48pm PT
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Hello everyone. My name is Rebecca and Joe is my father. I agree with Charles as the article made me roll my eyes. I have not heard anything about an equipment malfunction. In addition, they called my stepmother "Rebecca Kraut" and she was born a "Becky." We are awaiting news from the coroner's office and I will gladly post as soon as I know.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2014 - 01:25pm PT
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Thank you Rebecca. Although I live in Morgan Hill, I didn't know your dad. I wish I had, he sounds like a really good guy.
Take care,
Dan Merrick
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Jul 19, 2014 - 01:50pm PT
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Very heartbreaking. Thoughts for his family and friends.
Susan
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Jul 19, 2014 - 01:57pm PT
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Rebecca,
I'm so sorry. My deepest condolences for you and for everyone touched by this tragedy.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 19, 2014 - 10:45pm PT
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hey there say, oh dear rebecca... my prayers and condolences to you, at this hard sad time...
:(
very gracious of you to share, for folks that have been concerned as to how this happened... folks do care, deeply, just as they would if it was there family, as well...
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Michael Nicholson
Big Wall climber
Thousand Oaks
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Jul 31, 2014 - 11:25am PT
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RIP. Hate hearing about a death in a sport that is so much fun. Condolences to his loved ones.
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Double D
climber
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Jul 31, 2014 - 01:13pm PT
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My deepest condolences to all family and friends.
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Hummerchine
Trad climber
East Wenatchee, WA
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Jul 31, 2014 - 07:43pm PT
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Guy sounds uber-cool...wish I'd met him.
My sincerest condolences...
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Jul 31, 2014 - 08:07pm PT
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As another Pinnacles climber I am very sorry to hear this. My heart goes out to the family.
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big wall paul
Trad climber
tahoe, CA
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such a bummer hearing of this accident at pinnacles.
Sure the area is not granite so it is pretty unstable rock compared to other areas, but I dunno, I loved climbning at the Pinnacles, even though it was so unstable. I remember breaking holds off climbs each time I climbed them, so it is not inconcieable to imagine a lowering achor breaking loose there.
Paul.
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