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Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 15, 2014 - 12:48pm PT
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/14/tech/mobile/google-glass-attack/index.html?c=tech&page=1

Describing the issue as something you "wear" is a red herring.

But is there a real issue?
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Apr 15, 2014 - 12:56pm PT
I wouldn't walk around SF wearing any kind of Google gear right now
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 15, 2014 - 02:14pm PT
Instead of privacy issues, I get the feeling the beef the People Of San Francisco have with these things is that they're expensive, and anyone wearing them in public is doing so just to show how wealthy they are.

Aging hippies who can barely afford to live in The City anymore see young wealthy people as a threat, especially the technological young wealthy.



In Seattle, it looks like privacy is the issue, at least in the case of this "Glas#@&%e":

http://www.seattleweekly.com/home/951984-129/portrait-of-a-glas#@&%e

He's been kicked out of a few bars - and may be personally responsible for some of the Google Glass Bans making the news lately.

But the joints who've 86'd him all look to be gay bars. Some of the customers there might not be OK with their faces being instantly uploaded to Instagram for the whole world to see.


EDTI:

I see the censor has screwed-up the link to the Seattle Weekly.

To find the article, google " portrait of a glass hole ", hit "I'm feeling lucky", and it takes you right there.
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Apr 15, 2014 - 02:26pm PT
Instead of privacy issues, I get the feeling the beef the People Of San Francisco have with these things is that they're expensive, and anyone wearing them in public is doing so just to show how wealthy they are.

no

it's about housing and gentrification

Google is the symbol for these issues
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 15, 2014 - 02:27pm PT
Explain that. I'm missing the connection.
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Apr 15, 2014 - 02:28pm PT
The link in the OP explains it
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Apr 15, 2014 - 02:29pm PT
wearable's = total connectivity!

love it!
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Apr 15, 2014 - 02:49pm PT
Google et. al have basically invaded SF and driven up rents, changed neighborhoods and the music/nightclub scene...docked a secret barge at treasure island, run tour buses in and out of neighborhoods to disgorge flocks of young, single mostly men with enormous bank accounts and bigger senses of entitlement. These new residents are not appreciated by some and since they are by nature easy to pick out of a crowd they make ready targets for anti-tech backlash. This has been happening for months now.

SF is becoming a bedroom community for Silicon Valley, and there are a lot of people that are just marginally surviving there to begin with. They can't afford 10-12% rent hikes a year to say nothing of a real estate market that is being infused with Monopoly money.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2014 - 03:00pm PT
if their activity isn't illegal, why is it an issue?


what, specifically, is the concern?


Chewybacca

Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
Apr 15, 2014 - 03:11pm PT
I'm getting some of these for my employees. Plug them into my 'puter so I can keep track of them. No more slacking you silly serfs.
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Apr 15, 2014 - 03:14pm PT
if their activity isn't illegal, why is it an issue?

heh

not falling for that
The Call Of K2 Lou

Mountain climber
North Shore, BC
Apr 15, 2014 - 03:23pm PT
Those things will rot your brain, beginning with the part that regulates style.
jstan

climber
Apr 15, 2014 - 04:05pm PT
We draw barriers among us based upon income, climb ratings, skin color, nationality, politics, clothes, appearance....

To this national fractionation, we now can add eyeglasses. Think people. This is the end of all we value.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Apr 15, 2014 - 04:38pm PT
Google Ass


Binks

climber
Uranus
Apr 15, 2014 - 04:44pm PT
glass just looks stupid. but so does a lot of functional technology, it needen't be about fashion. if there is a practical use for it, fine.

i'm tired of the next stupid phone that has a slightly faster processor and another megapixel blah blah blah. and i have an aversion to talking to someone who is sharing attention with their eye glasses computer.

housing and gentrification in SF are nothing new whatsoever, not sure why Google is getting the hate. it wasn't affordable there a decade ago, either.
Slabby D

Trad climber
B'ham WA
Apr 15, 2014 - 04:53pm PT
I'm not sure it's about wealth. The dissolution of real presence in the moment into this virtual world that layers even more abstraction over our perception is highly disturbing for some. As an individual I'm sort of "meh, go be a dork". As a parent it's a bit terrifying how different a world and culture our kids are going to grow up in.
Binks

climber
Uranus
Apr 15, 2014 - 05:42pm PT
i'm bored by tech. i used to love it, but it all seems so repetitive now. i'm more interested in green tech, energy tech these days. do we really need a better smart phone? wearable glass cameras? it may be inevitable, but more and more i'm trying to avoid places where people are staring at their cellphones. what's the point of that? i might as well stay home if everyone is just staring at screen when i'm "out".

i'm also utterly bored by facebook and social media. i do not need to see 90% of the content on there. and even my narcissistic side is in revolt and is bored. it's just not REAL
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Apr 15, 2014 - 08:50pm PT
Meh - i'm not a fan of the glas#@&%es.

edit - busted by the taco police - glas$holes

Binks - given your avatar why aren't you using your real name Bob Doobs
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2014 - 11:55pm PT
Fluff, yeah, slight troll, but getting at the multiple aspects that create the conditions is very difficult to describe in terms of how they work together.

what is interesting is how google glass doesn't objectify strictly speaking it also subjects one self AND the other in a process of simulated reality: subjectification
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Apr 20, 2014 - 07:30am PT
Glass is in its infancy. Think about it. Ten years ago the latest in wearables looked like this:
Give it another ten years. The camera will be our eyes. The screen will be our brains. No need for a strap-on.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Apr 20, 2014 - 08:24am PT
In another decade or so the glass will be the camera and you won't be able to distinguish high tech glasses from what we now think of as normal glasses. A decade or so after that and you won't be able to buy normal glasses anymore and they will take commands directly from your brain. I'm not at all being hyperbolic.
MH2

climber
Apr 20, 2014 - 12:07pm PT
"Just once I'd like to catch some goggle geek alone, with fritzed sensors and no come-go record, then I'd teach 'em it's not polite to stare!"


p 101 of Earth by David Brin, 1991
Crump

Social climber
Lakewood, CO
Apr 20, 2014 - 12:39pm PT
I just received my pair and still not sure if I will embrace this technology.

Yes I am a teckno, I have full motion Directv in my truck and my house is full of big screens and yes I use 4-5 monitors when I work... But I do not intend to wear these in social settings. I would only take picts of friends who trust me and have plenty incriminating picts of me to harvest enough revenge destruction to leave me totally a feared!

There are tons of a-holes who miss use technology. Just look at those drivers who suffer from chronic SUV. Most often they can be found in the ditches of I-70. Or the cell phone user driving incompetently, or twits and trolls on the interwebs... It is less the technology than the a-hole using it.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Apr 20, 2014 - 01:11pm PT
When cameras first went into cell phones there were some of the same issue with people taking pictures in locker rooms, inappropriate selfies, and all sorts of other misuse.

Glass isn't any different. A-holes will misuse both, it's not the technology that is to blame, but the people.

Somebody gets their ass kicked bysomebody who objects to use of it in some settings a couple times and everyone will learn what is acceptable, just like you did with a cell phone.
MH2

climber
Apr 20, 2014 - 01:37pm PT
Funny how David Brin saw eyeglasses sending images to a remote location as a way to discourage crime, not incite it.
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