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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 15, 2014 - 10:26am PT
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a fresh slab on the meat market, right here.
i've got tons of enviable skills and assets
plus a six-pack at forty.
my charm is immense, my wit has it's moments.
i'll spin your understanding
when you least expect it.
i work like a mule,
i'm pretty quiet and reserved,
until some inner spark ignites,
then i shine, and usually
those around me just step back a little
and observe.
i expect of my partner and of my peers
a diligence and a commitment to the tough battle.
i practice what i preach:
at each choice in life that presents
itself at a crossroads....
whoa that's too many prepositions entangled
in one thought they bind the stride of
my expression and it falls flat on it's expressionless face...
let me try again:
i practice what i preach:
when a moment presents me with two choices,
i make a habit out of choosing the struggle.
for example:
my sleepy eyes open on a blue bird spring morning.
i see the dawn, beyond my bed.
my warm and soft bed.
shall i reset my conscious, and go hither to sleep?
or shall i arise and put on soiled socks and
walk down the lane, into the day?
choice B.
man i've employed this emotional tactic
my entire life (my father instilled this into me)
and i've arrived at wonderful destinations because of this habit.
because all of the death in this world;
it's just shy of the life.
and all of the life in this world;
It's just shy of the sorrow.
thus, sorrow is absolute. and king.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Apr 15, 2014 - 10:53am PT
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Seriously? What the hell happened?
I thought you were on the wagon and sh#t.
Sorry to hear of this man.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Apr 15, 2014 - 11:06am PT
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F*#k, dude. What's going to happen with the girls?
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thebravecowboy
climber
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Apr 15, 2014 - 11:14am PT
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"Sometimes there's so much beauty in the world, I feel like I can't take it, and my heart is just going to cave in."
[Click to View YouTube Video]
I feel it too, man, I really do. Please don't let it cave you in though. We need you.
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
Nevada City
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Apr 15, 2014 - 11:15am PT
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sometimes, what seems initially to be a bad thing can end up being a very good thing in the long run. best wishes on your journey.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2014 - 11:26am PT
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brandon i'm still on the wagon,
i almost derailed when the
aweful words were uttered
there on highway one in half-moon bay,
on the edge of that beautiful blue pacific.
but i stood a wobbly poise
and grabbed a tall water, instead of a six-pack.
the station clerk saw agony
in my eyes, which grew from
a yearning in my heart
and a restlessness in my feet.
anita we should both
go plant something new and green today,
in the soil that doesn't know yesterday
or tomorrow.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Apr 15, 2014 - 11:27am PT
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Weeg,
I walked into county jail on Wednesday. I gave up freedom to rage against the machine. Now I can rage again freely.
The darkness helps us see the big picture.
You know my struggle. My son is not an option. Giving up is not an option.
In Darkness we can see the lights. On the morningside we can be the light.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Apr 15, 2014 - 11:43am PT
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Hang in there Chuck. Come out to Utah and get some chossy desert dessert.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Apr 15, 2014 - 11:49am PT
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Good luck weege, hoping the best for you.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Apr 15, 2014 - 11:54am PT
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It's whatever you want it to be Jebus. In your case I'd say mangina.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 15, 2014 - 12:00pm PT
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It takes two to tango although I'm willing to bet she thinks you are the problem.
Best of luck, especially for the little ones who are the real victims.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Apr 15, 2014 - 12:02pm PT
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Good luck weeg. I hope you find a good way to be with your family.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2014 - 12:26pm PT
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oh i appreciate the support and well wishes
and offerings of loose climbing escapades.
it's great. the hurt is minimal
as we've exhausted our efforts to
find ground on which to stay married.
thus the separation makes good sense.
both parties will benefit.
even the kids will enjoy a new
serenity that has been absent for many years.
our differences are insurmountable.
it is as simple as that.
we we seek, and what we expect from
life is not compatible.
thus we are both constantly left starving.
we plan to liquidate all assets and split
the equity that is left after the debts are paid.
we also plan to split the custody.
she knows im a good dad, and that our girls need me.
and i cherish her mothering skills and qualities.
as we both earn roughly equal salaries,
no child support is necessary.
hopefully a clean break and new horizons for both of us.
we are not even employing a lawyer in the process.
maybe i'm completely naive,
or, yea, i am completely naive,
but i can.
and i always do.
look out world,
i'm ripping off my exo-life and
crawling out anew from beneath that battered cloak of yesterday.
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Leggs
Sport climber
Made in California
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Apr 15, 2014 - 12:31pm PT
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look out world,
i'm ripping off my exo-life and
crawling out anew from beneath that battered cloak of yesterday.
My best to you and your family, Weeg.
~peace, always... Lisa Mae
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Apr 15, 2014 - 12:33pm PT
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Wow Chuck, just left you a voice message....let's connect sooner than later.
Charlie D.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2014 - 12:43pm PT
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charlie can i park my camper in your driveway
and raise my kids within earshot of your pillow?
wink, wink.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Apr 15, 2014 - 02:15pm PT
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WOOW Weeg
These are the worst words you couldhave whispered.
More than a sudden unexpected death where there is chance for rebirth.
Urs will be a daily buryal of that gleam in ur eye that came from bowing to your queen.
On ur own your choices will be infinite.
The crown ur assembling only fits when ur on your own.
Is the glory you seek sound like one hand clapping.
Or do your strides deserve a standing ovation.
Adjust ur focus from the end of your pointing finger.
Listen to the starring gaze that was once ur seed.
Blind that I that condemns their need.
Whilest distance is the platform for grief and surely a way of obtaining the spot light.
There is no going back to the love u'll soon lack.
No one here in this pack gives a rats ass about the size of ur rack.
It's only those 3 girls that will ever have ur back.
My rant has turned from rythum to ryhm and its not caused from rum.
It's cause I've been where ur going and I think it's dumb.
Stand tall my boy by living on ur knees.
For one day you WILL need a hand to step down.
Foresure never have I seen in ur vocabulary the word please
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Apr 15, 2014 - 02:22pm PT
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Great attitude Weege, best of luck to you as a single dad!
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Apr 15, 2014 - 02:30pm PT
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Good luck with it all. It's a good time to see clearly and peer into the depths, to better understand what moorings and anchorage you offer, what you require, and what you cannot accept, such that future entanglements properly float all affected boats.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Apr 15, 2014 - 02:33pm PT
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Weege, I feel your pain and your sorrow. I walk in your shoes as well, its not a pretty place to be, but maybe its just darkest before the dawn.
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Rankin
Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
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Apr 15, 2014 - 02:34pm PT
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Sorry for your loss Weeg. Heal up and come back stronger.
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Sanskara
climber
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Apr 15, 2014 - 02:36pm PT
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You will figure it out Weeg we always do.
I also got off the sauce more than once only for the woman to then leave after the fact.
A few thoughts, sometimes the damage was already done and the inevitable was just the inevitable and the timing a coincidence.
Other times like attracted like one sick person to the other. Those that are sick are not always substance abusers. But the mentally ill often seek out others unknowingly also with some disjunction. When one person goes and gets better the other is left still seeking that dysfunctional relationship they sought out In the first place.
I knew I finally had my substance problems licked years ago when I for the first time left someone because I could see the writing on the wall. After getting sober a couple years prior and despite how much I loved this person and they loved me all the years time and effort put forth it just was not in the cards as this person had serious emotional illness.
Years removed freedom and peace prevail. It will again for you also..
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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Apr 15, 2014 - 03:09pm PT
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Hang in there man. Let me know when your over in the HMB area again, we can go to my not so top secret beach.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Apr 15, 2014 - 03:41pm PT
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I have a buddy about your age that has two boys about five and seven. He is going to marry the mother of those boys in October.
I wish you both the best of everything.
You two remind me of each other in a strange way; very dissimilar in other ways.
Carry on.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Apr 15, 2014 - 03:49pm PT
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Hey buddy. Just gave you a ring. Hope you're ok. Call me when you get the chance or i'll call again later.
Mike
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 15, 2014 - 03:55pm PT
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Sorry to read of this.
Hang in there Weeg. It took a long time for me to get over the initial shock and for my ex and I to get all the child rearing hurdles cleared but we did it.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 15, 2014 - 04:04pm PT
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I don't know.
But from the bottom of my heart I wish the absolute very best for the kiddos and their parents. lynne
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Apr 15, 2014 - 04:06pm PT
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Welcome to the gang.
It seems as you have found a good way of splitting up, the most important being the joint custody. Only important thing rather.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Apr 15, 2014 - 04:31pm PT
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He buddy,
Give me a ring if you want.
Blonde #1 would say to keep on keeping on with your funky self!
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OR
Trad climber
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Apr 15, 2014 - 05:34pm PT
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Hey, sorry Weeg. I've always enjoyed your posts, pics of your family and your cool house. Chin up and carry on! Lots great single dads out there living the life.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Apr 15, 2014 - 06:57pm PT
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hey there say, norwegian... i just saw this...
you are all in my prayers, as you have been, and in my heart, as i think of you all...
say, as a note of new hopes and horizons, and keeping a good future for the girls:
my ex son in law, had this same situation happen in his life:
no matter how much, compatable issues were NOT enough to smooth the
'non compatable'...
each time they all did this without lawers, as, they KNOW and respect each other enough--more important could still work together for the kids (this needs to be there, or it will fall into worse fights, yet unseen, if folks are not open to share well and honest)...
well--he stayed open with his freinds, solid and stable for his girls, and approachable and respectful for the ex's... and now, he has a life that he actually can handle, as to less pressure, and:
the relationships are now smooth...
sometimes, though sad, this thing happens and trails split...
it is WHAT we do with these trails and how we handle them, that makes
the difference for the future of the children, children that will have to have knowledge on HOW to handle trails of their own someday, and IN stable strong ways, with no 'confusion from unsettled youth issues' as they grew...
hang in there... reach out and LET your friends help you work this trail, and say, let's all hope and pray to see some good growth and the least amount of 'mudslides and pitfalls' along this trail...
thanks for sharing, you can't get support, advice or help, if you don't share--and here, are those that have faced such things, as well...
trail markers, or making new ones of your own... they will all be here to learn from...
god bless in and at, this hard time, to both you, the girls and their mom...
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Apr 15, 2014 - 08:47pm PT
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Do t know what to say Weeg.
May it work out best for all four of you!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 15, 2014 - 10:04pm PT
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being cast out is not the same as casting off moorings
tenuous at the best of times, the ties would not bind
a ring bend or a ring or a sixer instead of a sit-down dinner
no more must you bother with thinking ur no winner but a sinner
move on and up but sideways and now u can take ur time getting down
and really enjoy that beer and life, too
the best to you each morning, norseman
cock-a-doodle to ya!
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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Apr 15, 2014 - 11:46pm PT
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Weeg,
If you need a place to get away, p.m. me. My wife and I aren't up here (in the basin) often. If you are in a bind, or just need a break, let us know.
Brett
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Ham and Eggs
Mountain climber
Aoraki/Mt Cook Village
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Apr 16, 2014 - 03:23am PT
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She might well be hurting as much as you are
Perhaps thinking of similar things, near as often
Trusting there's emotional content in everything you do
Keep warm, but stay cool
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thebravecowboy
climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
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Apr 17, 2014 - 03:22am PT
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oh, and 'Weeg,
I have three words for you:
Pol-y-amory.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Apr 17, 2014 - 03:36am PT
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You will see this ex-wife one day
Pitifully serving borscht soup
In an obscure Ukranian hostelry
You have travelled there
Under commissioned orders from Putin
To trim the entire Siberian forest
She has fallen from grace
And has married a Cossack sadist
Under 39 years of crushing debt
You are rich beyond measure
As Putin's chief advisor
And tree surgeon
You thumb-toss her a single glinting ruble
As you heroically vanish , head held high
Back into the frozen Siberian night
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Apr 17, 2014 - 07:19am PT
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Polyamory doesn't work.
Just asking for trouble.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Apr 17, 2014 - 09:06am PT
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No poetry to offer but I know from experience that you will survive and life will go on. We live a long time and this will be just one of many experiences that didn't turn out the way you had hoped. The main thing is to be able to look back and say you handled the situation the best you could with your understanding of the moment.
I grew up in a household of two parents who profoundly disliked each other and waged civil war on each other for 40 years. I am convinced it takes more courage to separate in many cases than to stay together. As long as your girls know you love them and you respect their mother, things will be alright.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Apr 17, 2014 - 09:12am PT
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As long as your girls know you love them and you respect their mother, things will be alright. True words
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 17, 2014 - 10:18am PT
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we decided to take the separation step
prior to the divorce.
baby steps, you know.
so i'll be living it up
in strawberry for the summer,
at our mountain cabin,
taking the liddle mountainettes
half time.
it already feels lonely.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 17, 2014 - 10:37am PT
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ward trotter i enjoy your word play
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Apr 17, 2014 - 10:59am PT
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Weeg, you have the best wordplay of all here at ST.
You'll get past this, and it's going to be better. Hard to see right now, no doubt, but just allow the process to happen, and start looking & building forward.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Apr 17, 2014 - 11:29am PT
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Sorry to know you are at this point, Norwegian. Never having been married or having children, I cannot imagine what you are going through. Wishing you the best as you continue.
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thebravecowboy
climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
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Apr 17, 2014 - 12:11pm PT
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Anita, you are right, I meant polygamy.
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CalicoJack
climber
CA
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Apr 17, 2014 - 12:32pm PT
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Sorry to hear it Chuck. Best wishes man.
-Andy
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TWP
Trad climber
Mancos, CO
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Apr 17, 2014 - 12:55pm PT
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Randisi said it so I can timidly raise my hand in agreement without getting all the blowback of righteous indignation? I earned my bones to chime in. I lived a total of 33 years with two spouses of alcoholic/addictive proclivities and all my efforts to provide them with love, support, understanding, compassion, tolerance, acceptance, etc. so they might "rise above" came to sweet fanny ann. I will never again allow another person of such character and/or proclivities become my significant other/partner, etc. Over and out. Maybe Wege's wife's has finally crossed the same Rubicon. Even Job had his limits; God just gave up on testing him too soon.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Apr 17, 2014 - 12:57pm PT
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Weeg, you have the best wordplay of all here at ST.
This is true.
But we must be charitable
And share him with the great frozen tundra
As Siberia will one day hear those lofty sylvan curses.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Apr 17, 2014 - 01:14pm PT
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Largo is king wordsmith here, IMHO.
I have been frequently poorly dressed in my translations
of Largo's tailored threadbares
Weeg's excellent fabric
makes Largo
Wear like a cheap suit,
In a bad film noir.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Apr 17, 2014 - 01:15pm PT
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Randisi & TWP, who could know what it's like? Drawing conclusions about someone on ST is akin to saying you know how to climb from reading this forum. ST is just one of the Norwegian's many covers.
All I can say having gotten to know him, Chuck is an old soul who is wise beyond his years. I feel privileged to call him a friend. Seek to understand and in the mean time be nice the poor man is being beat up enough.
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MisterE
climber
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Apr 17, 2014 - 03:39pm PT
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Hey Weege. Man, so sorry to hear we won't be coming for the wedding at 3AM. Skip and I send out best wishes to you and the kids during a difficult time.
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Ham and Eggs
Mountain climber
Aoraki/Mt Cook Village
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Apr 17, 2014 - 03:55pm PT
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sorry to hear we won't be coming for the wedding at 3AM Might a rabble of strangers and strangeness rock-up anywhose, and offer the man his right to throw a mighty hoe-down anyways?
You should feel blessed she put up with you for as long as she did. I would too, believing the chance to share, likely, enriched her life too. Men with worked hands. Who strive to achieve considerable and considerate things.
I lived a total of 33 years with two spouses of alcoholic/addictive proclivities and all my efforts to provide them with love, support, understanding, compassion, tolerance, acceptance, etc. so they might "rise above" came to sweet fanny ann. I will never again allow another person of such character Sorry to read that. Bummer to also read of the 'need' to kick a guy in the guts when he is already down - you mentioned something about character?
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Apr 17, 2014 - 06:25pm PT
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I sure hope this is another elaborate troll from Weeg.
If not, best of luck brother.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Apr 17, 2014 - 08:46pm PT
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When you put it out all out there, you invite all comers.
No. Assholes tend to show up uninvited.
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Apr 17, 2014 - 09:58pm PT
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I'd be interested in why the Norwegian finds himself single. Seems like a good dude.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2015 - 06:44am PT
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i just go on down to the locale bar
and post-up behind a pour-man's
beer and stew for a bit.
then i get up, as is my habit
and put on some tunes.
usually lou reed, or
if the mood strikes me,
dead. or even i've
been know to go
on a bob seger binge -
all music is good.
then i return to
my beer and purse
my lips and gently,
though with infinite
confidence hit it
for a sip.
eventfully,
the girls notice me.
i'm not vain,
nor special,
though i tend to draw
looks.
you see my innocence,
which by the way
is at odds with
my constant inclination
to f*#k every girl everywhere,
is my game.
i'm non-threatening.
and before too long,
some gal strikes her
match against me
and a exo-dream
ignites, and we
engage conversation.
now it gets interesting.
because my demeanor is
completely inconsistent
with my story.
my lies are on the surface,
and my truth is soul-deep.
and before i know it,
i'm entertaining
her inquiries unto
my marrital status.
and gosh i get
alot of flirty smiles.
and twinkly eyes.
and even an occasional
playful hand-slap on
the thigh.
i refuse to go
sub-mariner and
tease-the deep,
though.
i'm only playin.
outta the band.
really i'm looking
hard for the
nothing that shall
be my companion
at death.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Mar 29, 2015 - 06:55am PT
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really i'm looking
hard for the
nothing that shall
be my companion
at death.
Pretty much
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2015 - 06:58am PT
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anita every night
i go to sleep
with a noose around
my neck
and wake up next morning
with a halo.
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Mar 29, 2015 - 05:27pm PT
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Drawing conclusions about someone on ST is akin to saying you know how to climb from reading this forum
That's so very right. When we talk to each other, the message is relayed 7 % by words, 38 % by intonation and voice, and a staggering 55 % by body language. It's really quite impossible to communicate by written word only, and it's amazing that we don't misunderstand each other more than we do here.
If something's important? Face to face communication.
Norwegian.
You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Mar 29, 2015 - 05:42pm PT
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hey there say, norwegian...
sometimes, one does not see all that there may be...
just off the regular trodded trail, of thee...
is a little trail, to work at, that has for years been hid...
just beyond the briars--it has some joys, for you, and does bid...
a little homey family-trail...
though now, seemingly, so frail...
it can offer still, many new years of life and new found treasure...
stuff to last not only now, but through your eternity's forever...
hoping, still, that a small kind breeze from above...
will blow the briars, just a bit, and rouse you to give them a shove...
and there you will see, what will be strong and new...
a way for norwegian, and family, to strong and contentedly, trail-on-through...
wishing you a good eve, this night, norwegian, i share...
and a grace, to guide you into that 'ready to be unbriared trail' there...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Mar 29, 2015 - 05:43pm PT
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hey there, say, lollie... i had a card for you...
been trying to find you... please check your email,
a good eve, to you, to... this night...
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DanaB
climber
CT
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Mar 29, 2015 - 06:20pm PT
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Mom-of-three flaunts 'flabby' belly in post-pregnancy bikini photo, inspires millions of people
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coolrockclimberguy69
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Mar 29, 2015 - 06:40pm PT
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hey girl...
does this rag
smell like chloroform?
#truelove #windowlessblackvan
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thebravecowboy
climber
Greyrock, CO
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Mar 29, 2015 - 07:08pm PT
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^hilarious rape-joke. really, hilarious.
aww, Lollie, thanks for showing up. you seem like an old pal, a former partner that is wise and knows you for all the stripes, colors, and bullshit one has to offer.
You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should
Word.
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thebravecowboy
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Greyrock, CO
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Mar 29, 2015 - 07:10pm PT
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'Weege, keep spitting those words. The word is mightier than the broken-back. Oh, maybe only while sitting. Still though, you are powerful despite the circumstance.
speaking of, though, that chainsaw sh#t kilt my back pretty quick.
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coolrockclimberguy69
climber
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Mar 30, 2015 - 10:29am PT
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the bravest of cowboys
will the real jack burns please stand up?
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thebravecowboy
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Greyrock, CO
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Mar 30, 2015 - 10:40am PT
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yep, you got me. Not really a cowboy. Not really Jack Burns. 'Spect I know a lick more of his haunts than many though, climberguy.
Are you rooted firm enough in those rocks to cast aspersion?
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