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BooDawg
Social climber
Butterfly Town
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 10, 2014 - 09:03pm PT
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Word from today's Gateway Partners' meeting suggests Glacier Point Rd. may open TOMORROW for this weekend!
Of course, Tioga is WAY MORE relevant to climbers, and they'll be pushing it forward... Let's have a lottery on this year's opening date (for autos)!
Mostly sunny for the foreseeable future... Is May 1st a reasonable guess? Maybe closer to May 15 (my birthday!)...
Since weekends often figure in the NPS's doings, I'll take Friday, May 9th, one day before Life Is A Bivouac's B-Day!
Any other guesses?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Apr 10, 2014 - 09:06pm PT
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May 1 works for me....that's the day I head back to Rado.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 10, 2014 - 09:14pm PT
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The roads are never closed.
You just can't drive on them at certain times but they're always open ....
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 10, 2014 - 09:33pm PT
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Hey Guys, I'll take May 16th. Rumors are that TPR will again be open Memorial Weekend.
Boo....are you working on songs for Yellow Pine Campfires? Cheers!
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BooDawg
Social climber
Butterfly Town
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 10, 2014 - 09:54pm PT
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May 16th is a good one, Lynne!
Yes, I keep my vocal cords tuned, especially for Yellow Pines!
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Apr 10, 2014 - 11:04pm PT
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After spending waaaay too much time on this, I take
Saturday, May third.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 10, 2014 - 11:06pm PT
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looks easy from here....bet you a home made cookie that's too early :) lynnie
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Edge
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Apr 10, 2014 - 11:09pm PT
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I have a vested interest in this matter, seeing as how I have to deliver some furniture to Sacramento in the third week of May, and I would dearly love to hit the Valley on my way home to CO. Then I won't have to backtrack to Tahoe.
May 8, FTW.
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Apr 10, 2014 - 11:14pm PT
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looks easy from here....bet you a home made cookie that's too early :) lynnie
I'd take you up on that, but with my cooking even if you win you lose.
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Bascuela
Trad climber
Fresno, CA
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Apr 10, 2014 - 11:16pm PT
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When did it open last year?
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Apr 10, 2014 - 11:18pm PT
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I'm betting May 23rd...
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Apr 10, 2014 - 11:19pm PT
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The roads are never closed.
You just can't drive on them at certain times but they're always open ....
Yeah Buddy!
Is The Great One ( I mean that with all SINCERITY) the only one paying attention? . . . Stoopid 'Mericans.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Apr 10, 2014 - 11:28pm PT
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I like May 10th
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Apr 10, 2014 - 11:37pm PT
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BooDawg, are you up for keeping a list in the OP?
In case you are, here's a start:
5/1 donini
5/3 looks easy from here
5/8 Edge
5/9 BooDawg
5/10 Vitaliy M.
5/16 Lynne Leichtfuss
5/23 phylp
I kinda tweak out about stuff like this...
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Apr 11, 2014 - 12:36am PT
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everything was open range sheep grazing up there,
then the White Man brought in the wire hung on bodark fence posts,
then the pipe rail gates,
whats next?
rangers with guns?
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Apr 11, 2014 - 01:24am PT
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whats next?
rangers with guns?
I hope not.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Apr 11, 2014 - 02:02am PT
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in 1988 the fractional snow pack on April 1st was closest to what it was this year...
the road opened on Friday, 4/29
a linear regression would have predicted 4/24 (a Sunday)
this year the fractional snow pack on April 1st was 0.33
the regression predicts: 4/20/14 (a Sunday) with 4/26/14 being one standard deviation low, and 5/2/14 one standard deviation high...
of the 34 years in the NPS table, 22 of those years had the road opening on Friday or Saturday...
Here are my guesses:
5/2 or 5/3 about 40% of a chance
4/18 or 4/19 about 32% of a chance
4/25 or 4/26 about 10% of a chance
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Apr 11, 2014 - 03:27am PT
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05/21/2014
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 11, 2014 - 04:48am PT
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5/24/14. Easy peasy.
Giants in four games, too. Again. :)
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Apr 12, 2014 - 06:24am PT
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May 2nd. If they could open it earlier, they still won't cause it costs money to patrol the road and deal with it up there and late storms could create problems so there's not much pressure to let people in before May
Second guess would be the 9th.
Peace
Karl
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TwistedCrank
climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
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Apr 12, 2014 - 10:34am PT
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There's a road? Serious? WTF.
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Apr 12, 2014 - 01:20pm PT
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My vote was for May 23. Reasoning: nothing to do with snow conditions. I think they should be able to open it much earlier, but will choose not to hurry. But if they wait too long people will be really pissed and start complaining about them keeping a major through route closed. The date I picked is a week before Memorial Day, on a Friday. It's like they're saying "See, we're being really nice to you, you can make your Memorial Day plans."
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Apr 12, 2014 - 01:27pm PT
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phylp had a string of logic going up to "...See, we're being really nice to you..."
if anything, avoiding the Memorial Day crush (especially with limited parking and no campground or other services open) would be a reason for them to avoid "being nice" they might open it last minute
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John M
climber
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Apr 12, 2014 - 01:33pm PT
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the website says that glacier point road will open to vehicles monday the 14th. On another forum someone said that it is open to bicycles right now. I have no way of verifying that, but that would be a fun ride.
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Grippa
Trad climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Apr 12, 2014 - 01:44pm PT
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I'm going with 5/17
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JOEY.F
Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
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Apr 12, 2014 - 02:38pm PT
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"5/10 Vitaliy M."
Another vote for 5/10 due to a pattern of Saturdays god I must be bored...
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Mtbphoto
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, Ca
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Apr 13, 2014 - 09:21pm PT
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From Yosemites website.
Tioga Road
Snow removal begins April 15, 2014.
There is currently no estimated opening date for the Tioga Road. The road is closed to vehicles, bicycles, and pedestrians when snow removal operations are underway.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Apr 13, 2014 - 09:30pm PT
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Shouldn't take them long to clear it this year. Unless we have another storm.
(I sure hope we do).
I'd say good chance by May 10.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 13, 2014 - 09:35pm PT
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Ed and all, we can't really advertize we will be open in case an unexpected storm hits, but TPR plans to open for Memorial Weekend as we did last year.
Looking forward to a new and glorious season! Oh, it's Tioga Pass Resorts' 100th Birthday. :) Cheers, lynnie
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Climberdude
Trad climber
Fresno, CA
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Apr 13, 2014 - 10:47pm PT
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I vote for May 4, which is also my birthday.
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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Apr 14, 2014 - 03:23am PT
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I'm going with the Mexican drinking holiday.
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KarlCBL
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Apr 14, 2014 - 11:13am PT
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My source says the Tuolumne Store will open 5/24. It typically opens a week or so after the road.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Apr 14, 2014 - 11:29am PT
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There were few storms this winter with long intervals between storms which i'm guessing prevented a base from forming...Throw in the above normal day time temperatures we experienced this winter and i bet the pass will open earlier than last year...
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adikted
Boulder climber
Tahooooeeeee
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Apr 14, 2014 - 05:53pm PT
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5/9 is my vote...based on nothing..although I can't wait for that easy high sierra access!!
-G
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 14, 2014 - 07:16pm PT
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Michelle, you mention Cinco de Mayo the drinking holiday.... my friends and I went down to TJ during the day to shop Ave Revolution and go to our favorite restaurant. I ordered a beer with my lunch. Sorry, the waiter said we don't serve alcohol today.........seriously no beer for dinner either. :(
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Fish Finder
Social climber
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Apr 15, 2014 - 06:56am PT
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my sources tell me it will
be MOnday May 12th
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Adamame
climber
Santa Cruz
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Apr 16, 2014 - 03:44pm PT
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I had a good view of Olmsted Point from Clouds Rest about a week ago. The slabs above the roadcut were almost bare and so the plows should easily clear that zone.
I'll say May 7th opening.
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John Ellsworth
Mountain climber
June Lake, CA
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Apr 16, 2014 - 11:10pm PT
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Eastside opened to the pass today.
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Edge
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Apr 16, 2014 - 11:18pm PT
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Hey, edge, you should hit me up when you're front tracking through Tahoe to sac if you want to climb.
Thanks Jebus, that would be great. I hope to know the dates soon.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 16, 2014 - 11:43pm PT
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So it's opened to the pass only, when will it open from Tioga to the Valley is the question, I think.
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enjoimx
Trad climber
SLO
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Apr 17, 2014 - 02:04am PT
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I want to bike it
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Apr 17, 2014 - 02:45am PT
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So it's opened to the pass only, when will it open from Tioga to the Valley is the question, I think.
It's definitely not the only question. Open to the Pass is the bidness for tons of backcountry ski access!!
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Bob Harrington
climber
Bishop, California
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Apr 17, 2014 - 10:12am PT
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The park web page says plowing began on April 16 and plows have reached Porcupine Flat. At that rate, it shouldn't take too long.
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cornel
climber
Lake Tahoe, Nevada
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Apr 17, 2014 - 12:50pm PT
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Let's see Tioga got 30% of normal snow fall which equals approx 1/3 of the time and energy to open so the plows could have it clear around the first week of May easy. Though I was just skiing out of Virginia Lakes yesterday and from the top of Black Mountain - Conness and her neighbors looked mighty white...
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John M
climber
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Apr 17, 2014 - 10:05pm PT
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I go with Karl and Ed..
May 2nd.
todays update said they started plowing april 16. They are already at porcupine flat.
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John M
climber
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Apr 23, 2014 - 10:41pm PT
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Tioga Road
Plows reached Tioga Pass on Tuesday, April 22, while a few inches of new snow was falling. However, more plowing is needed to widen the plowed portion of road, plow side roads and parking lots, and peel ice from sections of the road near Tuolumne Meadows. Additional ditching and tree work may also be required. The weather forecast calls for snow Thursday night through Sunday night.
There is currently no estimated opening date for the Tioga Road (for either cars or bicycles). The road is closed to vehicles, bicycles, and pedestrians when snow removal operations are underway.
http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tioga.htm
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 23, 2014 - 11:39pm PT
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Looks pretty sweet.......Even I could ski that course. :)
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Apr 24, 2014 - 12:06am PT
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Yer sandbaggin Leichtfuss! Yer a stud...et and ya know it.
Peace
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 24, 2014 - 04:45pm PT
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Well, Gomez, I meant blindfolded, of course. :))
If all goes as planned TPR will be open in less than a month. Of course we give the job of rope gun to Mother Nature on that call.
As mentioned, this is Tioga Pass Resort's 100th BIRTHDAY, come celebrate with us. Lynnie arrives on 5/24 (Lord willing and the creek and snow level don't rise.) and so looking forward to seeing and playing with wonderful ST friends as well as family, friends and climbers at large.
Big Cheers!!!
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Apr 24, 2014 - 07:19pm PT
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Book Kelly and I a room!
Peace
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LilaBiene
Trad climber
Technically...the spawning grounds of Yosemite
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Apr 24, 2014 - 07:46pm PT
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Snow plowing? The road opening EAST? I'm so confused!
;D lol
Good to see everybody getting excited about getting back to doing what we all love to do.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:27pm PT
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Awesome, more moisture = larger life in our favorite place. Keep us posted Cragman. :)
Edit: Always a place for you and Kelly to stay Ron.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 25, 2014 - 08:59pm PT
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OhhhLaLa, the skies are darkening here. Perhaps rain tonight. Glory for the Earth.
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Greg Barnes
climber
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Karl, John, and (1/2 of 40%) Ed win!
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snowhazed
Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
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everybody wins!!
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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looks easy from here....bet you a home made cookie that's too early :) lynnie
Shoulda taken you up on that. :)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Come by TPR and you got the home made cookie. Smiles, lynnie
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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May 21, 2014 - 03:24pm PT
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SR 120
[IN THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA AREA & SIERRA NEVADA]
IS CLOSED FROM CRANE FLAT TO 5 MI WEST OF THE JCT OF US 395 /TIOGA PASS/
(TUOLUMNE, MONO CO) - DUE TO SNOW - MOTORISTS ARE ADVISED TO USE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE
I guess we were both right, Lynne.
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