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Sioux Juan
Big Wall climber
Costa mesa
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 17, 2014 - 12:46pm PT
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I live in costa mesa, a mile from the santa ana river and it seems that every other week there are posters of missing small pets. Well the coyotes got my Snyder (cat) nothing left but fur, there is a kinda funny part, the coyotes took a dump out front on my lawn and you could see all the hair from my cat in the poop 2 days after they got him. Guess it was a message or something .......................
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Mar 17, 2014 - 12:48pm PT
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The message was don't leave small pets out in coyote country.
Did you get it?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Mar 17, 2014 - 12:51pm PT
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Sorry about that.
Coyote took our cat a couple of years ago. Neighbor saw the coyote headed away with her in its mouth.
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Sioux Juan
Big Wall climber
Costa mesa
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2014 - 01:00pm PT
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if you saw where I live ? you would not think there would be any coyotes for 20 miles
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Mar 17, 2014 - 01:08pm PT
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"I live in costa mesa, a mile from the santa ana river... "
How long have you been living there?
Poor kitty.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Mar 17, 2014 - 01:26pm PT
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Man, I've seen 3 legged coyotes trotting off with cats hanging out of their mouths. Down here they will go for dogs too. Even on leash. They size up what they are up against quickly. Little old lady walking her small yappy dog = meal.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Mar 17, 2014 - 01:30pm PT
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Coyotes are urban creatures as much as they are rural creatures.
In fact, a coyote will often choose to chill during the day immediately adjacent to busy roads, as they know that vehicles rarely stop. Hiding in plain sight, so to speak.
I lost two cats to coyotes on the same day a few years back in the middle of the day. Since then, I've chosen to not own cats if I live in coyote country (read;everywhere), since I'd want my cat to be able to roam outside.
Ironically, about ten years ago I had a cat named Fischer. He was eaten by a fisher cat.
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The Glowering Sailor
climber
Mt. Humphreys
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Mar 17, 2014 - 01:38pm PT
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the coyotes took a dump out front on my lawn and you could see all the hair from my cat in the poop 2 days after they got him. Guess it was a message or something
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Modesto Mutant
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Mar 17, 2014 - 02:00pm PT
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I lived up in a rural part of Santa Cruz County (Happy Valley) for 17 years. I can't tell you how many cats we went through, probably more than 20 total. Likely the coyotes got them all. We kept replacing the cats to ward off the rats who would try to infiltrate our house. There was one locally famous male cat who was never spayed. The cat must of been more than 10 years old. We called him 'Floppy' as he had one ear that laid flat. The neighbors up the road called him 'Arnold' after our formally esteemed governor. How that cat lived that long is a complete mystery. The property was rife with wildlife looking for something to eat. Owls, Coyote, Racoons, Hawks, Golden Eagles, Bobcats, Cougar. Old Floppy's range must of been a thousand acres easy. If a local female cat went into heat, sure enough, several months later there'd be a batch of tiny little 'Floppy' clones. His progeny was prodigious. Then one day I noticed we didn't see Floppy anymore. I wonder that happened to that old cat. I hated him as much as I admired him.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Mar 17, 2014 - 09:44pm PT
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I thought the Coyotes got Emerson the cat this fall but then I found out my new neighbors from AZ have a huge old redbone hound that they taught to hunt Lions. Aparently the cowboy method is to toss a live housecat in with the hounds and drink beer and watch the show... I like these people a lot and I like the dog Eliot. I don't hold it against Eliot if he ate Emerson but I sure wish He would not do it again with Bok. I also saw a large Lynx about 1/2 mile from my house about a week or so ago so who knows who the real culprit is????...........
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Mar 18, 2014 - 12:04am PT
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When Heidi and I first moved from semi-rural Idaho to Choss Creek, her beloved cat lasted about 6 months. The coyotes thought it was delicious!
We then adopted local rural cats, with perhaps some bobcat genes. We have not lost a cat to the locally abundant coyotes since. Coyotes are always a concern, but our cats seem to either hunker down and survive, or do ok in encounters.
The cat/cats are herded inside at nightfall, and not let out until full daylight.
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Sioux Juan
Big Wall climber
Costa mesa
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2014 - 12:22am PT
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apogee .........sorry I'm late ...............!I live in east mesa verde.........I think they come in from the golf course 4 houses away ?? oh and I've lived here 17 years or so
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Mar 18, 2014 - 12:28am PT
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Holy Moses, Scooter is a house cat??
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Sioux Juan
Big Wall climber
Costa mesa
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2014 - 12:33am PT
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floorabove please leave that post !!!!!!!!
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Mar 18, 2014 - 12:49am PT
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I live in Los Angeles, and we have lost two cats to coyotes. You have to have cats that stay close to home most of the time, and also have "street smarts". Some cats do, some are reckless. We had a small Himalayan Persian cat, and she was obstinate, and insisted on going out late at night. She got ambushed.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Mar 18, 2014 - 12:59am PT
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skcreidc! Re your comment: Holy Moses, Scooter is a house cat??
Scooter was a house cat with a bobcat gene. He passed at age 19, three years back.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 18, 2014 - 01:18am PT
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It's a jungle out here... in suburbia.
I actually think this was a road kill.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Mar 18, 2014 - 08:12am PT
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If you have a rodent problem you actually have a food storage problem.
Cats are useless.
But what is funny is the "owners". They think that the cat is being affectionate rubbing the back of their ears against the hands that pet.
It is actually using special glands and scent marking the "owner" and declaring "You my bitch" to other cats.
People who let cats run loose are highly unethical. They don't want to clean up after their pet, so they let it spread disease, cruelly kill animals, cause traffic accidents, cause property damage, and cause night time disturbances.
My .177 can never compete with the coyotes, but thats OK.
A friend's neighbor saw a coyote jump his 8' block wall and kill his dog in Lake Havasu.
Too bad; it was a nice dog.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Mar 18, 2014 - 11:01am PT
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Thats funny Fritz. Scooter looks like a ginormous version of his mom.
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Sioux Juan
Big Wall climber
Costa mesa
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2014 - 02:16pm PT
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I think that Snyder committed suicide ?? he was 17 or so, always stayed in the back yard and the roof. He could see and knew about the danger out front but decided to start hanging out front anyway, at night. He was real cranky, to the point I think he was in pain and wanted to go ? RLF knows, rlf says he thinks Snyder was always moaning .........kill me, please kill me, if you know rlf ? its like him to say that ? and I kinda agree.
.....................R I P .........Snyder
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Mar 18, 2014 - 04:28pm PT
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In the woods behind our house we have both feral cats and coyotes. Not sure how that works out. Birds are probably rooting for the coyotes.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 19, 2014 - 01:36am PT
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Mar 19, 2014 - 11:56am PT
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Oh look dear, the cat brought us a mouse.
Tabcat bringing us a treat. Unfortunately, he's the one cat in 23 rural Idaho years that the coyotes did catch.
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Mar 19, 2014 - 01:07pm PT
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I love cats WAY more than dogs. I don't have to worry about coyotes since she is a house cat and never goes outside. Statistics claim the average age of an outside cat is 2 yrs, whereas, an indoor cat is 18yrs.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Mar 19, 2014 - 01:24pm PT
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I've seen coyotes in both downtown Portland and variously within an 80-block radius of downtown. Clever. You might try getting a Manx if you want to give a cat better odds.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
In What Time Zone Am I?
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Dec 19, 2014 - 11:23am PT
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OMG. Such a close call early this morning. I heard a ruckus about 5:30 around my back deck. My cat was getting chased by a coyote. My cat made it up over the fence with coyote in close pursuit but it jumped up on the fence, couldn't get purchase and fell back off.
Oh scary. I live primarily in a suburban area but with hills and a gulch and creek beside me.
Poor Oscar was pretty darn subdued after that experience.
Susan
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Dec 19, 2014 - 11:39am PT
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you guys need to get tougher cats
KENNEWICK -- Buddy is the top cat in his house, and arguably the toughest feline in the Tri-Cities.
The muscular 17-pound bobtail cat, which belongs to William and Shannon Secolo, fought off coyotes inside its Kennewick home early one morning last week.
And while Buddy emerged without a scratch from the scrap, his vanquished foes left behind a trail of dung and fur as they fled into the frigid night.
"I think of Buddy as a little hero," William Secolo said Saturday. "Those coyotes were twice his size."
Buddy's, and the Secolo's, close encounter with coyotes occurred early Thursday after the predators entered the Canyon Lakes home through a door from the garage that had been pried open earlier by the couple's other cat, Frank.
William Secolo, who owns Mr. Color Carpet Cleaning & Dyeing, opened his garage door Wednesday night while working on equipment and inadvertently left it slightly open when he went inside for the night.
But he said he didn't firmly shut the door from the garage to the home's interior, and fell asleep on his couch around 9 p.m. Sometime after that, Frank worked the door open and slipped outside, a trick he's done before.
Around 1 a.m., Secolo awoke.
"I heard this blood-curdling scream," he said.
He yelled, then heard the sound of "claws running across tiles."
Secolo got up, hustled across the foyer and stepped in one of a handful of piles of coyote feces. The door to the garage was wide open.
"There were fur balls everywhere," Secolo said. "Those coyotes didn't stand a chance."
He never saw the coyotes, but believes more than one was involved because of the amount of dung and hair left behind.
When the couple turned on a light, they found Buddy sitting in the dining room.
"We checked him all over for bite marks and didn't find any," William Secolo said of his orange tabby. "He didn't even have a scratch. But he had coyote fur in his claws."
Shannon searched the home for Frank, also an orange tabby. She began to cry, fearing he'd been killed.
She opened a sliding glass door to the outside and saw Frank looking at her.
"He was outside somewhere when the coyotes came into the house. They probably smelled our cats and came in looking for them," Secolo said. "These were pretty brazen coyotes."
Ironically, the couple acquired Frank and Buddy nearly two years ago, after their 14-year-old feline, Fred, was killed by coyotes.
The resourceful predators are not an uncommon sight in the area. Secolo said he got up in the middle of the night several years ago and spotted nearly a dozen walking down his street.
Wildlife experts warn pet owners to keep cats and dogs inside at night to prevent unwanted encounters with coyotes. Snow and frigid temperatures in the Mid-Columbia the past week also may be prompting coyotes to become more bold in looking for food.
Buddy and Frank are indoor cats, so they aren't allowed to venture outside for long. Buddy also is playful, intelligent and strong, Secolo said.
Since his standoff, he's also been spoiled by his owners.
"He's been getting showered a bit with attention," he said.
Read more here: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2008/12/21/423047_cat-dukes-it-out-with-coyotes.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Dec 19, 2014 - 12:57pm PT
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Hawkeye! Holy Schist! That's one tough cat. I've had cats that beat the hell out of aggressive dogs, including a German Shepard, but I've never heard of one doing it to coyotes.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Dec 19, 2014 - 01:13pm PT
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Whole foods.
Outdoor (free range) cats are healthier for the coyote.
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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Dec 19, 2014 - 04:00pm PT
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When I lived in Lakewood, Wa we always told new people in the area to keep their cats inside. Because most cats or small dogs would not last a week before the rats got them.
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Cali
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Quote: " Statistics claim the average age of an outside cat is 2 yrs, whereas, an indoor cat is 18yrs."
This is such a false statistic! This is based on counting feral cats as outdoor cats. This is the chant of the cat rescue people and is not based on reality. Matter of fact, if you let your cat outside they consider it a feral cat. Idiots! They do good work but jeebus!
I have always had indoor/outdoor cats, as have my parents and siblings, and they have always lived to be at least 13 and usually die of disease, not being eaten, although one was run over by a car in his slow old age.
We have coyotes, racoons, possum and skunks in our neighborhood and the cats are fine. I have a small hole in the gates on each side of the yard that the cats can get thru but the coyotes can't. I think the racoons use them too.
And just like my women, I don't care if my cats really love me so long as they cuddle up with me from time to time.
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