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Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 25, 2014 - 10:00pm PT
Favorite route(or routes).

Come on Tacos, I know there's some "right-coasters" here.

I'll post my pix as soon as I can make it over to Roys place.

Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Feb 25, 2014 - 10:05pm PT
What grade range?

If you want a nice route, a good place to start is by doing the Herb Laeger routes.

Not any different than when you are on the West Coast.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 25, 2014 - 10:08pm PT
Cottonmouth
Castor & Pollux
Ecstasy
Green Wall
Triple S
Marshall's Madness
High Test

Gosh, I can't remember the names of them all. . .
ruppell

climber
Feb 25, 2014 - 10:13pm PT
Gunsight. Also something about dynamite and a free standing pillar? Sounds like a super climber friendly area. lol
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 25, 2014 - 10:48pm PT

Mine are all on slides. . .
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Feb 25, 2014 - 10:51pm PT
Great place. Would like to make it back there some day.
Marshall's on the left, Triple-S on the right.

little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Feb 25, 2014 - 10:55pm PT
Favorite route will always be Triple S.

Here's a shot of me from 1973 topping out on Ecstacy - my first multiple pitch climb! Notice signs of the times - Rugby shirt and super stretchy bicolored rope (you had to dye it yourself) made by MSR.


The climbing was fun. So was camping at old Buck Harper's campground (he'd be up at 6:00 in the morning and kick you while you were in your sleeping bag if you hadn't paid up yet), eating at the 4 U, goin' to the Bear Paw Inn to see the bear paw, and hanging out at the Gendarme playing darts with the lads, reading the climbing rags and fondling the gear (Markwell was an understanding bloke).

Have more photos but all are on slides.

TwistedCrank

climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
Feb 25, 2014 - 11:28pm PT
The Gendarme, One of my first leads. 1980. RIP.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Feb 25, 2014 - 11:28pm PT
West Pole
Shipley's Shivering Shimmy (Triple S)
Agony
Marshall's Madness
High Test
Climbin' Punishment
Soler
Conn's East (and direct)
Castor
Pollux
Ye Gods and Little Fishes
LSD
Complete Skyline Tour
The Gendarme (RIPices)

Many fun climbs with quality in the mellower grades as a bonus. Great fun there climbing as a kid in the late-60s and into the mid-70s.


elcap-pics

Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
Feb 25, 2014 - 11:54pm PT
SteveW and Todd get the prize for the best routes of what has become sorta medium grades I would guess by now!
Morgan

Trad climber
East Coast
Feb 25, 2014 - 11:56pm PT
Muscle Beach
Alcoa Presents
Orangeaid
Frosted Flake
High Test
Climb N Punishment
Venom
Gendarme!

Never did Coxcomb Overhang Direct, that looks rad.

Lichen or Leave It
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Feb 26, 2014 - 12:01am PT
El Pic, there were some pretty good foot steps to follow...

... thanks!
Climberdude

Trad climber
Fresno, CA
Feb 26, 2014 - 12:31am PT
Already missing Seneca Rocks since moving back to Kali last year from Maryland. Led "Gunsight To South Peak" and "Conn's West" many times, but never got tired of them. IMO "Conn's West Direct" is one of the best moderate routes. One of the few places besides the Gunks where you can get breathtaking exposure even on "moderate" routes. Of course the ratings for Seneca Rocks and the Gunks are in a class of their own. I will miss hanging out at the Gendarme, The Front Porch, grooving to Zen, and Seneca Shadows Campground.

Climberdude
ThomasKeefer

Trad climber
San Diego
Feb 26, 2014 - 12:47am PT
OMG! I have the same exact photo from my first lead on Ecstasy. I am going to go dig it out..
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Feb 26, 2014 - 12:53am PT
Perhaps Ben Mealy can describe almost extruding Glen Randall through a carabiner on Pleasant O?
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Feb 26, 2014 - 01:09am PT
yes, let's get Ben on here and have him tell how John McGowan saved his life when he fell while soloing. Long and short of it - they were both soloing something on the east face, Ben was tied into a rope but just trailing it, he fell and John was straddling a flake but not tied in and just grabbed the rope when big Ben popped off and sailed past, John got major rope burns on his hands but hung on.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Feb 26, 2014 - 01:16am PT
Oh yea, "The first years are the hardest years..."
Reedly

Social climber
The High Desert, CA
Feb 26, 2014 - 02:08am PT
I regret that I didn't climb there. I visited on a rainy day and hung out at the Gendarme for a bit and then hit the road. One more place I hope to return to.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Feb 26, 2014 - 03:56am PT
yes, let's get Ben on here and have him tell how John McGowan saved his life when he fell while soloing. Long and short of it - they were both soloing something on the east face, Ben was tied into a rope but just trailing it, he fell and John was straddling a flake but not tied in and just grabbed the rope when big Ben popped off and sailed past, John got major rope burns on his hands but hung on.

For years after, John would belay people top ropping at Carderock by just holding the rope in his hands.

Nobody objected.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Feb 26, 2014 - 01:50pm PT
This thread is LONG overdue.

I just emailed Ben so hopefully he will come and join in the fun.
Rudder

Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
Feb 26, 2014 - 02:04pm PT
The Burn

jstan

climber
Feb 26, 2014 - 03:24pm PT
For years after, John would belay people top ropping at Carderock by just holding the rope in his hands.

Nobody objected.

We need more McGowan stories.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 26, 2014 - 06:23pm PT

Here you go, Jstan. . .

About 1978, John M was visiting Boulder, and he and Jim Nigro and
I were going to go climbing in Boulder Canyon. We got signals mixed,
and John and I ended up having to drive up the canyon to meet Jim
somewhere up there. We were driving up, near to Castle rock,
and Jim passed us going down or something like that. So we did a u-turn
right there and passed numerous vehicles going down canyon to catch up. . .
nuts. . . .

and the times where John was about to eat cigarettes so someone would
buy him a burger (I think Mal Banks was behind one of those. . .)
Fortunately someone bought the burger for him first.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Feb 26, 2014 - 07:41pm PT
We need more McGowan stories.

Jeez, John.

That you appeared to let him do it was one of the reasons I didn't object.

Maybe you should have looked back at your belayer.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Feb 26, 2014 - 07:46pm PT

Feb 26, 2014 - 11:04am PT
The Burn



The Burn (5.8)
Credit: Rudder


Classic Seneca.

If you take a West Coast climber and told them it was 5.8 they would hit you.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Feb 26, 2014 - 07:50pm PT
If you take a West Coast climber and told them it was 5.8 they would hit you.

Cause it's more like Index 5.6!
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Feb 26, 2014 - 07:58pm PT
West pole with the Direct finish.
Pleasant O's
marshals to crack of Dawn
Gunsite direct.
Tomatoe
Soler
Alcoa
High Test
Green wall
Extacy
Tripple S
Yee gods
candy Corner
Old ladies is a fun Scramble
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Feb 26, 2014 - 08:15pm PT
Cause it's more like Index 5.6!

Maybe, but index will have three bolts at the hard parts.

You didn't read my tag line, apparently
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Feb 26, 2014 - 08:36pm PT
Yeh.

Must be why we are both still alive.
CClarke

climber
La Paz, Bolivia
Feb 26, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
Spock's Brain.

Ben is certainly one of the finest individuals I've had as a partner. I'm not sure I could've made the catch John did. But I would have tried.
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
Still working on my pix.

How about Simple J. Malarkey? Frosted Flake? Mad Men Only? Wild Men Only?
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Feb 26, 2014 - 09:08pm PT

Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2014 - 05:51pm PT
Still working on my pix.

How about Simple J. Malarkey? Frosted Flake? Mad Men Only? Wild Men Only?

Wow. Huge range.

Has anybody named Nip and Tuck?

Best route for its grade almost anywhere.
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2014 - 09:55pm PT
HHOOOOWWEEEE!! Nip and Tuck is VERY GOOD!

A little harder- Terra Firma,The Changeling,The Bell!
CClarke

climber
La Paz, Bolivia
Feb 26, 2014 - 10:09pm PT
Are we going with routes we have led or just nice routes?
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2014 - 11:28pm PT
I should think you can submit any route, but suppose you ought to have lead it to give an honest opinion.
jstan

climber
Feb 26, 2014 - 11:46pm PT
I should think you can submit any route, but suppose you ought to have lead it to give an honest opinion.

Fifty years later when you can't remember anything, handwritten notes will be a big help.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Feb 27, 2014 - 12:18am PT
I remember trying Totem with Jeff Burns (AKA The Mouth of Seneca) RIP and Rich Pleiss in 1975. After some shenanigans we retreated to drink some 3.2 Strohs...

... nice work on that thing John!
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2014 - 12:30am PT
Moderate but scary;

Duftys Popoff
Duftys again on The S. Pillar.
Sunshine, With and Without the bolt.
Dyna-Mo-Hum!

How could I forget on of my ALL TIME FAVORITES?!?!?

Cicumflex 5.9 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!!
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Feb 27, 2014 - 01:43am PT
From our family trip in 2008, the year we took off and visited as many climbing areas as we could. Home schooled the kids; music class here. Seneca was one of the favorites.


Note the lack of gendarme
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Feb 27, 2014 - 02:35am PT
How could I forget on of my ALL TIME FAVORITES?!?!?

Cicumflex 5.9 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!!

Made me snort beer out my nose.

When the Webster 1975 guide came out I was pretty new to climbing, but had just come off a couple of good weeks in the gunks. My irst trip to Seneca -my partner's second. Looked in the book and saw something like

5.8
"Innovative protection makes this an interesting route"

Figuring I needed more practice placing gear, I talked my partner into it. We finished it because I didn't trust a single piece of gear to lower and wasn't sure I could down climb it. (Stoppers only, back then). More accurately, I didn't want to touch some of the holds I pulled up on again. I chucked a couple off.

As it happened, Webster was in the parking lot when we got down, and my partner had to stop me from killing Him. I went cold turkey on climbing for a season.

I think the next edition added the clarification that an early attempt took a 60 footer and just missed the block at the start.

Oh yeah. I still have a 10th mountain piton I pulled out by hand from it.

It's the exception to the rule that anything with Laeger's name on it is good.
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2014 - 03:22am PT
I went up on C-Flex when I was just a lad! Did the thing , and it became one of my favorites at Seneca. Bad Rep that's undeserved. Very Doable if'n yer SOLID at 5.9 (HOHOHEEHEE...)
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Feb 27, 2014 - 03:26am PT
Probably a whole new set of holds now. You probably like it because the description says huge overhang.

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Feb 27, 2014 - 06:44am PT
Mad men is pretty interesting but if I recall ends before the summit? Ai seneca I need a summit every time:) Simple J was pretty cool. Isa I think on West Pole?
David Lewis

Trad climber
North Conway,New Hampshire
Feb 27, 2014 - 08:44am PT
I did not see Candy Corner a classic 5.5. Nor did I see Marshall's Madness to Crack of Dawn, start with some balance moves on Marshalls and end up on a beautiful crack that keeps you entertained (slow continuous burn) to the top of Crack of Dawn 5.9-5.10A. Great photos of people climbing Crack of Dawn can be had by sending someone 1/2 way up Triple S, another classic 5.8, which would be a 5.9 at most other craigs.
TwistedCrank

climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
Feb 27, 2014 - 09:43am PT
The three things I liked about Seneca when I spent time there (a couple of spring breaks around 1980):

1. It's the anti-Gunks. At Seneca Rocks, the strata is dead vertical. At the Gunks it's kinda horizontal.

2. It's steep.. Real steep.

3. On rain days, the local caving is a fun distraction, if you can tolerate crawling around in a damp hole.
WanderlustMD

Trad climber
New England
Feb 27, 2014 - 10:19am PT
Orangeaid
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
May 31, 2015 - 08:15pm PT
I just posted a story about Jan and Herb Conn's first visit to Seneca Rocks here.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2625512/Conn-Routes

One of the funniest bits in my interview with Jan involved her first visit to Seneca Rocks with Herb right after the war. They were in the road and absolutely delighted to find hundreds of pitons left for them to liberate and reuse elsewhere. She chortled when she surmised that instructors apparently told trainees to place a bunch in one spot before finding the next one and left them all in place.

These war effort pitons changed the course of American climbing history by allowing these two wonderful but beyond frugal climbers to explore and climb hundreds of wild summits all across North America.

The Face of a Thousand Pitons took a hit for Herb and Jan!

Jan was reluctant to take credit for the Conn's East and Conn's West routes as commonly described in the Seneca guidebooks but did say that she and Herb climbed several routes there.
jstan

climber
May 31, 2015 - 09:18pm PT
Seneca and Seneca climbers are an unequalled source for stories.

At one meeting of the mountaineering section of the PATC held in down town DC we were
having a slime Buck Harper competition. June, a feisty lady of 60 or so, complained bitterly
about Buck's failure to maintain the outhouse at the pavilion. She said,"Buck is the worst I
have ever seen! Last winter I had to pat it down before I could sit."

Because I have had a wide experience observing climbers, I am an expert and experts have to
make comparisons. I can't avoid making one here. In this instance the reputation possessed by
the Vulgarians was left in the dust.

I have published one excellent event held by the Vulgarians and featuring Dick Dumais but
never felt my linguistic flourishes fully captured Dick. Mea inadequa.


tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jun 1, 2015 - 02:42am PT
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jun 1, 2015 - 11:04am PT
jstan- I would press you to begin to empty the coffers and redeem your estimable self.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Jun 1, 2015 - 01:45pm PT
I've done a bunch of routes at Seneca BITD. Can't remember the name of any of them other than Triple S. Here's a picture of one of those routes, a fairly easy one I think...

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jun 1, 2015 - 03:26pm PT
Cons east?
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Jun 1, 2015 - 04:54pm PT
Awesome place.
chipper_shredder

Social climber
outinthecuts
Sep 9, 2015 - 01:27pm PT
bump
picked a bad day to quit glue
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Sep 9, 2015 - 03:53pm PT
Made a couple trips to Seneca in the early 90's to climb with a fair number of the old wreck.climbing crowd there. Most significantly, with Inez D., which launched quite a few years of adventures back home in Arizona and in Yosemite.

What a cool place... like to go back someday.

Dale W. (I think he was a cousin of Inez's) on Ecstacy...


Leading Marshall's Madness (5.9) on the left. Some other guy on Triple S (Shipley's Shivering Shimmy) (5.8) on the right. There was a lot of sputtering going on about Triple-S being some kind of hideous sandbag, but it seemed pretty consistent with the ratings back in AZ to me. Fun route!


Inez working on Marshall's Madness (5.9), Face of a Thousand Pitons


Now THAT'S a rack!!! I think that was Phil Sidel's rack. Phil was another wreck.climbing denizen and a helluva nice guy that lived in Pittsburgh.


The Gendarme. Think this was on my second trip, so around 1994 or so.


Inez near the top of the first pitch of Triple S sporting a shirt from the Grateful Dead catalog. :-)


Very pretty place to climb.
Very green and very different than the brown view back in the desert!

mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Sep 10, 2015 - 01:27am PT
My first visit to Seneca as as a kid, some time in the early '70s. Did the Old Woman Route, and finished on the Gendarme, without any remarkable incidents.

Later, around '85, I was leading 5.9's or so in CA, and went to Seneca during a visit back home. Got on W. Pole, which, IIRC, was rated 5.6 or .7 at the time. Man, that was an epic! Got on a runout, perhaps off route (plus my rack was pretty small), and was too scared to downclimb, so I just had to go up. Yikes!

Later on, went back again, and had a pleasant time. The rock there is a bit in it's own class.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Aug 27, 2016 - 04:46pm PT
Bump for the appearence of Ben Mealy who I just prompted to join in.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Aug 27, 2016 - 05:57pm PT
Howdy Ben! Tell us a Trav's story!

Todd
jstan

climber
Aug 27, 2016 - 11:17pm PT
Old people tend to think olde tyme stories will interest younger people. Rarely true, but anyways here goes:

Trav's closed only two or three years after I started going there. It was your normal pub located on an 1840's canal. The culture was wonderfully unlike 1960's Georgetown national capital. I worked at the Naval Research Lab where history stopped with Thomas Edison. Loved it.

After Trav's closed we all went to O.Donnells a mile further east on the canal. The owner had two young and very pretty daughters who acted as barmaids. It was a seamless devolution for Carderock types. My daughter, Kristy, enjoyed walking along the C&O canal and looking at the people and the animals of an evening so she naturally ended up going to O'Donnell's with me. Earlier one of the biker customers had had a disagreement with his girlfriend and had begun pummeling her on the floor right beside my table. Disconcerting.

So I determined to locate Kristy up on the bar itself close to the barmaids. They were more than able to handle any contretemps, biker or otherwise. Kristy developed a relationship with the barmaids as they seemed interested in the same kinds of things. Why would that be? If I had had a girlfriend I would have been at liberty to play my god given role and pummel her on the floor. But as it was I had neither a bike nor a girlfriend. Cest le vie.

Seneca Rocks is unlike any other place. Relish it.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Aug 28, 2016 - 12:10am PT
My memory of Trav's is a bit different than John's. It hardly seemed like a normal place to me.

The clientele besides the local drunks consisted of bikers( the Harley Kind, not the mtn bike kind), the area poets, Olympic whitewater Kayak dudes who lived in old Glenn Echo and practiced in Great Falls Gorge, and climbers, who also hung out in the gorge and at Carderock, depending on season. The occasional ordinary redneck there for the fights added spice. About all we had in common was the PBR, aka blue gag.

Tuesdays we went after climbing to tell lies about what we did the weekend before.
Thursdays we hung out there to see where and with whom we would we would climb that week. The plans usually alternated between the Gunks and Seneca.

One night we showed up and headed to the booth in the back. I got the seat way in the corner. Right next to the booth was the pay phone ( before cell phones).

A biker dude, drunk as a skunk, puts his dime in the phone and misdials, so he loses his dime. The fellow is quick to anger, so after using the handset as a hammer on the phone, he pulls out his Bowie knife ( My first thought is he'll kill two or three others before he gets to me) and starts hacking at the phone line coming out the bottom of the phone. He's so drunk he's not having much success, but he keeps trying and swearing. The guys in our booth next to him try pretend he's not there, but they are freakin out. The whimpers and nervous laughs were actually kind of funny. Since I have a couple guys between us, I'm laughing out loud and getting shushed by the guys nearer to him.

Trav's daughter was tending bar that night, and she comes over to the dude with the knife, grabs him by the ear and drags him out the door while yelling at him

" Charlie, I told you not to do that. Don't come back until you are sober"

The next week saw an armored cable coming out the phone.


The place is still there, but it's been a series of upscale bistros with valet parking.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Aug 28, 2016 - 12:59am PT
Another night we are in Trav's and a guy walks into the bar from the dirt parking lot and calls out.

"Hey. Whose bike did I just back Over?

Dead silence.

Then a couple guys walk out to look and one comes back with murder in his eyes..

The guy who backed over the bike figures it's a simple insurance claim and is writing out contact and agent info. What he doesn't realize is that the bike is probably all hot parts and there wasn't going to be any cops or agents looking over that bike. The biker wanted cash that night.


It took a couple hours, but the guy started buying rounds and finally friends came with about $800 in cash to pay the biker off. And then they all went back to drinking together.
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Aug 28, 2016 - 08:19am PT
Fall at Seneca Rocks from a few years ago




Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Aug 28, 2016 - 12:44pm PT
Seeds of this thread need to be included . With apologies to Jstan,
jstan

climber

Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 19, 2016 - 10:22pm PT
I was standing in D C Harper's store looking at the rough plank front door and reading the OPA regulations on prices that could be charged during WWII. That they were there at all was a West Virginia political protest by Buck Harper. West Virginians wanted nothing to do with dandified Virginians nor with city folk from Washington. Indeed West Virginians who came to that state after the War were considered outsiders. The Civil War. I noticed a little guy running around the store on a tricycle while making engine noises. As he reached down and pretended to turn off his engine, I saw a smile appear on Buck's face. The little boy may have been Joe Harper who now operates the store. This was the experience this climber got in Mouth of Seneca.

Buck then addressed me directly saying "Let's take a ride. I have to show you something." We got into his four wheel drive stake rack truck and headed up impossibly steep tracks into the woods. He stopped the truck as we were traversing the steepest part saying "open your window." I swear it seemed a 60 degree slope. Pointing down slope he said, "My mother was born right down there." I have to think she survived only because a tree stopped her from rolling all the way to the valley floor.

I had been involved in getting climbers to lobby the NFS not to site a recreation center and a road in what little bottom land existed in Mouth of Seneca. Buck wanted to show me a high route for the new road that would not destroy Mouth of Seneca. We came on the remains of a log cabin that clearly had been vacant for a century or more. Buck said," Living up here you needed to lay in enough food to get you to spring. There were bear and deer up here but young people today seem unwilling to have snow blow in on their faces at night." I myself grew up with that experience and I have to say it isn't bad.

Climbing has many facets and relationships within the climbing community and without. Both are essential parts of what we gain from the activity.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Aug 28, 2016 - 02:25pm PT
Was the rumor true that Markwell re-cycled the hundreds (thousands) of empty Stroh's cans into the wedge nuts he made?
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Aug 28, 2016 - 06:00pm PT
Good stuff up here.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Aug 29, 2016 - 09:40am PT
Several years ago I tried to contact Markwell to talk with him about Gendarme nuts and got as close as leaving a message on his home phone but he is pretty difficult to engage and I was warned about that.

I would be amazed if recycled beer cans went directly into making bar stock commercially but you never know until you ask.

If true, they would certainly be America's only fire brewed nut! LOL
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Aug 29, 2016 - 11:08am PT
I would be amazed if recycled beer cans went directly into making bar stock commercially but you never know until you ask.

Son, that's a Buck Harper kind of tall rumor...
dhayan

climber
culver city, ca
Aug 29, 2016 - 11:58am PT
Such a beautiful place - thanks for all the photos...hope to visit there sometime.
DIP

Trad climber
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
Aug 29, 2016 - 05:13pm PT
Agony, West Pole to Bring on the Nubiles, Pollux to Orange Aid, Gunsight to South Peak. So many good routes. im gonna go ahead and say ecstasy sucks though. so overrated. hell junior's better.
jstan

climber
Aug 29, 2016 - 05:18pm PT
Back in the late 60's, climbers from the DC area never gave a thought to how hard a climb was. Difficulty never made a difference. They all were adventures. That was all they needed to be.

Loved it.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Aug 29, 2016 - 06:16pm PT
Hey, if it was a cast nut like a MOAC then some backwoods crucible might be in order there pops.
7SacredPools

Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
Aug 29, 2016 - 06:57pm PT

Stopped by there once for a couple of days while on my way to The New.
Great climbs there, but I was spooked on some of them by loose rock.
Didn't do many routes but I remember liking Climbin' Punishment and
Pleasant O.
Yinzer

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Aug 30, 2016 - 12:05am PT
I'm headed to Seneca next wednesday... going from LA to pittsburgh for a wedding. great memories of being there when i was 11 or 12 with my dad and his friends just learning to lead trad.

Sacred place for sure. we have gone the day before new years eve the past two years and it has been beautiful... cold and even icy but beautiful. A bear was howling out to us through the fog at sunrise. timeless mememories <3

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