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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 25, 2014 - 10:00pm PT
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Favorite route(or routes).
Come on Tacos, I know there's some "right-coasters" here.
I'll post my pix as soon as I can make it over to Roys place.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Feb 25, 2014 - 10:05pm PT
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What grade range?
If you want a nice route, a good place to start is by doing the Herb Laeger routes.
Not any different than when you are on the West Coast.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Feb 25, 2014 - 10:08pm PT
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Cottonmouth
Castor & Pollux
Ecstasy
Green Wall
Triple S
Marshall's Madness
High Test
Gosh, I can't remember the names of them all. . .
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ruppell
climber
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Feb 25, 2014 - 10:13pm PT
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Gunsight. Also something about dynamite and a free standing pillar? Sounds like a super climber friendly area. lol
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Feb 25, 2014 - 10:48pm PT
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Mine are all on slides. . .
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Feb 25, 2014 - 10:51pm PT
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Great place. Would like to make it back there some day.
Marshall's on the left, Triple-S on the right.
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Feb 25, 2014 - 10:55pm PT
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Favorite route will always be Triple S.
Here's a shot of me from 1973 topping out on Ecstacy - my first multiple pitch climb! Notice signs of the times - Rugby shirt and super stretchy bicolored rope (you had to dye it yourself) made by MSR.
The climbing was fun. So was camping at old Buck Harper's campground (he'd be up at 6:00 in the morning and kick you while you were in your sleeping bag if you hadn't paid up yet), eating at the 4 U, goin' to the Bear Paw Inn to see the bear paw, and hanging out at the Gendarme playing darts with the lads, reading the climbing rags and fondling the gear (Markwell was an understanding bloke).
Have more photos but all are on slides.
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TwistedCrank
climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
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Feb 25, 2014 - 11:28pm PT
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The Gendarme, One of my first leads. 1980. RIP.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Feb 25, 2014 - 11:28pm PT
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West Pole
Shipley's Shivering Shimmy (Triple S)
Agony
Marshall's Madness
High Test
Climbin' Punishment
Soler
Conn's East (and direct)
Castor
Pollux
Ye Gods and Little Fishes
LSD
Complete Skyline Tour
The Gendarme (RIPices)
Many fun climbs with quality in the mellower grades as a bonus. Great fun there climbing as a kid in the late-60s and into the mid-70s.
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elcap-pics
Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
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Feb 25, 2014 - 11:54pm PT
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SteveW and Todd get the prize for the best routes of what has become sorta medium grades I would guess by now!
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Morgan
Trad climber
East Coast
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Feb 25, 2014 - 11:56pm PT
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Muscle Beach
Alcoa Presents
Orangeaid
Frosted Flake
High Test
Climb N Punishment
Venom
Gendarme!
Never did Coxcomb Overhang Direct, that looks rad.
Lichen or Leave It
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Feb 26, 2014 - 12:01am PT
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El Pic, there were some pretty good foot steps to follow...
... thanks!
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Climberdude
Trad climber
Fresno, CA
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Feb 26, 2014 - 12:31am PT
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Already missing Seneca Rocks since moving back to Kali last year from Maryland. Led "Gunsight To South Peak" and "Conn's West" many times, but never got tired of them. IMO "Conn's West Direct" is one of the best moderate routes. One of the few places besides the Gunks where you can get breathtaking exposure even on "moderate" routes. Of course the ratings for Seneca Rocks and the Gunks are in a class of their own. I will miss hanging out at the Gendarme, The Front Porch, grooving to Zen, and Seneca Shadows Campground.
Climberdude
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ThomasKeefer
Trad climber
San Diego
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Feb 26, 2014 - 12:47am PT
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OMG! I have the same exact photo from my first lead on Ecstasy. I am going to go dig it out..
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Feb 26, 2014 - 12:53am PT
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Perhaps Ben Mealy can describe almost extruding Glen Randall through a carabiner on Pleasant O?
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Feb 26, 2014 - 01:09am PT
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yes, let's get Ben on here and have him tell how John McGowan saved his life when he fell while soloing. Long and short of it - they were both soloing something on the east face, Ben was tied into a rope but just trailing it, he fell and John was straddling a flake but not tied in and just grabbed the rope when big Ben popped off and sailed past, John got major rope burns on his hands but hung on.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Feb 26, 2014 - 01:16am PT
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Oh yea, "The first years are the hardest years..."
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Reedly
Social climber
The High Desert, CA
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Feb 26, 2014 - 02:08am PT
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I regret that I didn't climb there. I visited on a rainy day and hung out at the Gendarme for a bit and then hit the road. One more place I hope to return to.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Feb 26, 2014 - 03:56am PT
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yes, let's get Ben on here and have him tell how John McGowan saved his life when he fell while soloing. Long and short of it - they were both soloing something on the east face, Ben was tied into a rope but just trailing it, he fell and John was straddling a flake but not tied in and just grabbed the rope when big Ben popped off and sailed past, John got major rope burns on his hands but hung on.
For years after, John would belay people top ropping at Carderock by just holding the rope in his hands.
Nobody objected.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Feb 26, 2014 - 01:50pm PT
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This thread is LONG overdue.
I just emailed Ben so hopefully he will come and join in the fun.
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Feb 26, 2014 - 02:04pm PT
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The Burn
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jstan
climber
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Feb 26, 2014 - 03:24pm PT
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For years after, John would belay people top ropping at Carderock by just holding the rope in his hands.
Nobody objected.
We need more McGowan stories.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Feb 26, 2014 - 06:23pm PT
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Here you go, Jstan. . .
About 1978, John M was visiting Boulder, and he and Jim Nigro and
I were going to go climbing in Boulder Canyon. We got signals mixed,
and John and I ended up having to drive up the canyon to meet Jim
somewhere up there. We were driving up, near to Castle rock,
and Jim passed us going down or something like that. So we did a u-turn
right there and passed numerous vehicles going down canyon to catch up. . .
nuts. . . .
and the times where John was about to eat cigarettes so someone would
buy him a burger (I think Mal Banks was behind one of those. . .)
Fortunately someone bought the burger for him first.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Feb 26, 2014 - 07:41pm PT
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We need more McGowan stories.
Jeez, John.
That you appeared to let him do it was one of the reasons I didn't object.
Maybe you should have looked back at your belayer.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Feb 26, 2014 - 07:46pm PT
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Feb 26, 2014 - 11:04am PT
The Burn
The Burn (5.8)
Credit: Rudder
Classic Seneca.
If you take a West Coast climber and told them it was 5.8 they would hit you.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Feb 26, 2014 - 07:50pm PT
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If you take a West Coast climber and told them it was 5.8 they would hit you.
Cause it's more like Index 5.6!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 26, 2014 - 07:58pm PT
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West pole with the Direct finish.
Pleasant O's
marshals to crack of Dawn
Gunsite direct.
Tomatoe
Soler
Alcoa
High Test
Green wall
Extacy
Tripple S
Yee gods
candy Corner
Old ladies is a fun Scramble
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Feb 26, 2014 - 08:15pm PT
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Cause it's more like Index 5.6!
Maybe, but index will have three bolts at the hard parts.
You didn't read my tag line, apparently
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Feb 26, 2014 - 08:36pm PT
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Yeh.
Must be why we are both still alive.
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CClarke
climber
La Paz, Bolivia
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Feb 26, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
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Spock's Brain.
Ben is certainly one of the finest individuals I've had as a partner. I'm not sure I could've made the catch John did. But I would have tried.
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
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Still working on my pix.
How about Simple J. Malarkey? Frosted Flake? Mad Men Only? Wild Men Only?
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Feb 26, 2014 - 09:08pm PT
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2014 - 05:51pm PT
Still working on my pix.
How about Simple J. Malarkey? Frosted Flake? Mad Men Only? Wild Men Only?
Wow. Huge range.
Has anybody named Nip and Tuck?
Best route for its grade almost anywhere.
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2014 - 09:55pm PT
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HHOOOOWWEEEE!! Nip and Tuck is VERY GOOD!
A little harder- Terra Firma,The Changeling,The Bell!
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CClarke
climber
La Paz, Bolivia
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Feb 26, 2014 - 10:09pm PT
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Are we going with routes we have led or just nice routes?
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2014 - 11:28pm PT
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I should think you can submit any route, but suppose you ought to have lead it to give an honest opinion.
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jstan
climber
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Feb 26, 2014 - 11:46pm PT
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I should think you can submit any route, but suppose you ought to have lead it to give an honest opinion.
Fifty years later when you can't remember anything, handwritten notes will be a big help.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Feb 27, 2014 - 12:18am PT
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I remember trying Totem with Jeff Burns (AKA The Mouth of Seneca) RIP and Rich Pleiss in 1975. After some shenanigans we retreated to drink some 3.2 Strohs...
... nice work on that thing John!
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2014 - 12:30am PT
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Moderate but scary;
Duftys Popoff
Duftys again on The S. Pillar.
Sunshine, With and Without the bolt.
Dyna-Mo-Hum!
How could I forget on of my ALL TIME FAVORITES?!?!?
Cicumflex 5.9 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!!
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
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Feb 27, 2014 - 01:43am PT
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From our family trip in 2008, the year we took off and visited as many climbing areas as we could. Home schooled the kids; music class here. Seneca was one of the favorites.
Note the lack of gendarme
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Feb 27, 2014 - 02:35am PT
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How could I forget on of my ALL TIME FAVORITES?!?!?
Cicumflex 5.9 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!!
Made me snort beer out my nose.
When the Webster 1975 guide came out I was pretty new to climbing, but had just come off a couple of good weeks in the gunks. My irst trip to Seneca -my partner's second. Looked in the book and saw something like
5.8
"Innovative protection makes this an interesting route"
Figuring I needed more practice placing gear, I talked my partner into it. We finished it because I didn't trust a single piece of gear to lower and wasn't sure I could down climb it. (Stoppers only, back then). More accurately, I didn't want to touch some of the holds I pulled up on again. I chucked a couple off.
As it happened, Webster was in the parking lot when we got down, and my partner had to stop me from killing Him. I went cold turkey on climbing for a season.
I think the next edition added the clarification that an early attempt took a 60 footer and just missed the block at the start.
Oh yeah. I still have a 10th mountain piton I pulled out by hand from it.
It's the exception to the rule that anything with Laeger's name on it is good.
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2014 - 03:22am PT
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I went up on C-Flex when I was just a lad! Did the thing , and it became one of my favorites at Seneca. Bad Rep that's undeserved. Very Doable if'n yer SOLID at 5.9 (HOHOHEEHEE...)
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Feb 27, 2014 - 03:26am PT
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Probably a whole new set of holds now. You probably like it because the description says huge overhang.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 27, 2014 - 06:44am PT
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Mad men is pretty interesting but if I recall ends before the summit? Ai seneca I need a summit every time:) Simple J was pretty cool. Isa I think on West Pole?
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David Lewis
Trad climber
North Conway,New Hampshire
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Feb 27, 2014 - 08:44am PT
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I did not see Candy Corner a classic 5.5. Nor did I see Marshall's Madness to Crack of Dawn, start with some balance moves on Marshalls and end up on a beautiful crack that keeps you entertained (slow continuous burn) to the top of Crack of Dawn 5.9-5.10A. Great photos of people climbing Crack of Dawn can be had by sending someone 1/2 way up Triple S, another classic 5.8, which would be a 5.9 at most other craigs.
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TwistedCrank
climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
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Feb 27, 2014 - 09:43am PT
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The three things I liked about Seneca when I spent time there (a couple of spring breaks around 1980):
1. It's the anti-Gunks. At Seneca Rocks, the strata is dead vertical. At the Gunks it's kinda horizontal.
2. It's steep.. Real steep.
3. On rain days, the local caving is a fun distraction, if you can tolerate crawling around in a damp hole.
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WanderlustMD
Trad climber
New England
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Feb 27, 2014 - 10:19am PT
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Orangeaid
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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May 31, 2015 - 08:15pm PT
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I just posted a story about Jan and Herb Conn's first visit to Seneca Rocks here.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2625512/Conn-Routes
One of the funniest bits in my interview with Jan involved her first visit to Seneca Rocks with Herb right after the war. They were in the road and absolutely delighted to find hundreds of pitons left for them to liberate and reuse elsewhere. She chortled when she surmised that instructors apparently told trainees to place a bunch in one spot before finding the next one and left them all in place.
These war effort pitons changed the course of American climbing history by allowing these two wonderful but beyond frugal climbers to explore and climb hundreds of wild summits all across North America.
The Face of a Thousand Pitons took a hit for Herb and Jan!
Jan was reluctant to take credit for the Conn's East and Conn's West routes as commonly described in the Seneca guidebooks but did say that she and Herb climbed several routes there.
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jstan
climber
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May 31, 2015 - 09:18pm PT
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Seneca and Seneca climbers are an unequalled source for stories.
At one meeting of the mountaineering section of the PATC held in down town DC we were
having a slime Buck Harper competition. June, a feisty lady of 60 or so, complained bitterly
about Buck's failure to maintain the outhouse at the pavilion. She said,"Buck is the worst I
have ever seen! Last winter I had to pat it down before I could sit."
Because I have had a wide experience observing climbers, I am an expert and experts have to
make comparisons. I can't avoid making one here. In this instance the reputation possessed by
the Vulgarians was left in the dust.
I have published one excellent event held by the Vulgarians and featuring Dick Dumais but
never felt my linguistic flourishes fully captured Dick. Mea inadequa.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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jstan- I would press you to begin to empty the coffers and redeem your estimable self.
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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I've done a bunch of routes at Seneca BITD. Can't remember the name of any of them other than Triple S. Here's a picture of one of those routes, a fairly easy one I think...
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Made a couple trips to Seneca in the early 90's to climb with a fair number of the old wreck.climbing crowd there. Most significantly, with Inez D., which launched quite a few years of adventures back home in Arizona and in Yosemite.
What a cool place... like to go back someday.
Dale W. (I think he was a cousin of Inez's) on Ecstacy...
Leading Marshall's Madness (5.9) on the left. Some other guy on Triple S (Shipley's Shivering Shimmy) (5.8) on the right. There was a lot of sputtering going on about Triple-S being some kind of hideous sandbag, but it seemed pretty consistent with the ratings back in AZ to me. Fun route!
Inez working on Marshall's Madness (5.9), Face of a Thousand Pitons
Now THAT'S a rack!!! I think that was Phil Sidel's rack. Phil was another wreck.climbing denizen and a helluva nice guy that lived in Pittsburgh.
The Gendarme. Think this was on my second trip, so around 1994 or so.
Inez near the top of the first pitch of Triple S sporting a shirt from the Grateful Dead catalog. :-)
Very pretty place to climb.
Very green and very different than the brown view back in the desert!
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Sep 10, 2015 - 01:27am PT
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My first visit to Seneca as as a kid, some time in the early '70s. Did the Old Woman Route, and finished on the Gendarme, without any remarkable incidents.
Later, around '85, I was leading 5.9's or so in CA, and went to Seneca during a visit back home. Got on W. Pole, which, IIRC, was rated 5.6 or .7 at the time. Man, that was an epic! Got on a runout, perhaps off route (plus my rack was pretty small), and was too scared to downclimb, so I just had to go up. Yikes!
Later on, went back again, and had a pleasant time. The rock there is a bit in it's own class.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Aug 27, 2016 - 04:46pm PT
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Bump for the appearence of Ben Mealy who I just prompted to join in.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Aug 27, 2016 - 05:57pm PT
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Howdy Ben! Tell us a Trav's story!
Todd
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jstan
climber
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Aug 27, 2016 - 11:17pm PT
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Old people tend to think olde tyme stories will interest younger people. Rarely true, but anyways here goes:
Trav's closed only two or three years after I started going there. It was your normal pub located on an 1840's canal. The culture was wonderfully unlike 1960's Georgetown national capital. I worked at the Naval Research Lab where history stopped with Thomas Edison. Loved it.
After Trav's closed we all went to O.Donnells a mile further east on the canal. The owner had two young and very pretty daughters who acted as barmaids. It was a seamless devolution for Carderock types. My daughter, Kristy, enjoyed walking along the C&O canal and looking at the people and the animals of an evening so she naturally ended up going to O'Donnell's with me. Earlier one of the biker customers had had a disagreement with his girlfriend and had begun pummeling her on the floor right beside my table. Disconcerting.
So I determined to locate Kristy up on the bar itself close to the barmaids. They were more than able to handle any contretemps, biker or otherwise. Kristy developed a relationship with the barmaids as they seemed interested in the same kinds of things. Why would that be? If I had had a girlfriend I would have been at liberty to play my god given role and pummel her on the floor. But as it was I had neither a bike nor a girlfriend. Cest le vie.
Seneca Rocks is unlike any other place. Relish it.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Aug 28, 2016 - 12:10am PT
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My memory of Trav's is a bit different than John's. It hardly seemed like a normal place to me.
The clientele besides the local drunks consisted of bikers( the Harley Kind, not the mtn bike kind), the area poets, Olympic whitewater Kayak dudes who lived in old Glenn Echo and practiced in Great Falls Gorge, and climbers, who also hung out in the gorge and at Carderock, depending on season. The occasional ordinary redneck there for the fights added spice. About all we had in common was the PBR, aka blue gag.
Tuesdays we went after climbing to tell lies about what we did the weekend before.
Thursdays we hung out there to see where and with whom we would we would climb that week. The plans usually alternated between the Gunks and Seneca.
One night we showed up and headed to the booth in the back. I got the seat way in the corner. Right next to the booth was the pay phone ( before cell phones).
A biker dude, drunk as a skunk, puts his dime in the phone and misdials, so he loses his dime. The fellow is quick to anger, so after using the handset as a hammer on the phone, he pulls out his Bowie knife ( My first thought is he'll kill two or three others before he gets to me) and starts hacking at the phone line coming out the bottom of the phone. He's so drunk he's not having much success, but he keeps trying and swearing. The guys in our booth next to him try pretend he's not there, but they are freakin out. The whimpers and nervous laughs were actually kind of funny. Since I have a couple guys between us, I'm laughing out loud and getting shushed by the guys nearer to him.
Trav's daughter was tending bar that night, and she comes over to the dude with the knife, grabs him by the ear and drags him out the door while yelling at him
" Charlie, I told you not to do that. Don't come back until you are sober"
The next week saw an armored cable coming out the phone.
The place is still there, but it's been a series of upscale bistros with valet parking.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Aug 28, 2016 - 12:59am PT
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Another night we are in Trav's and a guy walks into the bar from the dirt parking lot and calls out.
"Hey. Whose bike did I just back Over?
Dead silence.
Then a couple guys walk out to look and one comes back with murder in his eyes..
The guy who backed over the bike figures it's a simple insurance claim and is writing out contact and agent info. What he doesn't realize is that the bike is probably all hot parts and there wasn't going to be any cops or agents looking over that bike. The biker wanted cash that night.
It took a couple hours, but the guy started buying rounds and finally friends came with about $800 in cash to pay the biker off. And then they all went back to drinking together.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Aug 28, 2016 - 08:19am PT
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Fall at Seneca Rocks from a few years ago
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Aug 28, 2016 - 12:44pm PT
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Seeds of this thread need to be included . With apologies to Jstan,
jstan
climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 19, 2016 - 10:22pm PT
I was standing in D C Harper's store looking at the rough plank front door and reading the OPA regulations on prices that could be charged during WWII. That they were there at all was a West Virginia political protest by Buck Harper. West Virginians wanted nothing to do with dandified Virginians nor with city folk from Washington. Indeed West Virginians who came to that state after the War were considered outsiders. The Civil War. I noticed a little guy running around the store on a tricycle while making engine noises. As he reached down and pretended to turn off his engine, I saw a smile appear on Buck's face. The little boy may have been Joe Harper who now operates the store. This was the experience this climber got in Mouth of Seneca.
Buck then addressed me directly saying "Let's take a ride. I have to show you something." We got into his four wheel drive stake rack truck and headed up impossibly steep tracks into the woods. He stopped the truck as we were traversing the steepest part saying "open your window." I swear it seemed a 60 degree slope. Pointing down slope he said, "My mother was born right down there." I have to think she survived only because a tree stopped her from rolling all the way to the valley floor.
I had been involved in getting climbers to lobby the NFS not to site a recreation center and a road in what little bottom land existed in Mouth of Seneca. Buck wanted to show me a high route for the new road that would not destroy Mouth of Seneca. We came on the remains of a log cabin that clearly had been vacant for a century or more. Buck said," Living up here you needed to lay in enough food to get you to spring. There were bear and deer up here but young people today seem unwilling to have snow blow in on their faces at night." I myself grew up with that experience and I have to say it isn't bad.
Climbing has many facets and relationships within the climbing community and without. Both are essential parts of what we gain from the activity.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Aug 28, 2016 - 02:25pm PT
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Was the rumor true that Markwell re-cycled the hundreds (thousands) of empty Stroh's cans into the wedge nuts he made?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Aug 28, 2016 - 06:00pm PT
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Good stuff up here.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Aug 29, 2016 - 09:40am PT
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Several years ago I tried to contact Markwell to talk with him about Gendarme nuts and got as close as leaving a message on his home phone but he is pretty difficult to engage and I was warned about that.
I would be amazed if recycled beer cans went directly into making bar stock commercially but you never know until you ask.
If true, they would certainly be America's only fire brewed nut! LOL
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Aug 29, 2016 - 11:08am PT
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I would be amazed if recycled beer cans went directly into making bar stock commercially but you never know until you ask.
Son, that's a Buck Harper kind of tall rumor...
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dhayan
climber
culver city, ca
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Aug 29, 2016 - 11:58am PT
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Such a beautiful place - thanks for all the photos...hope to visit there sometime.
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DIP
Trad climber
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
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Aug 29, 2016 - 05:13pm PT
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Agony, West Pole to Bring on the Nubiles, Pollux to Orange Aid, Gunsight to South Peak. So many good routes. im gonna go ahead and say ecstasy sucks though. so overrated. hell junior's better.
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jstan
climber
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Aug 29, 2016 - 05:18pm PT
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Back in the late 60's, climbers from the DC area never gave a thought to how hard a climb was. Difficulty never made a difference. They all were adventures. That was all they needed to be.
Loved it.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Aug 29, 2016 - 06:16pm PT
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Hey, if it was a cast nut like a MOAC then some backwoods crucible might be in order there pops.
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7SacredPools
Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
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Aug 29, 2016 - 06:57pm PT
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Stopped by there once for a couple of days while on my way to The New.
Great climbs there, but I was spooked on some of them by loose rock.
Didn't do many routes but I remember liking Climbin' Punishment and
Pleasant O.
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Yinzer
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Aug 30, 2016 - 12:05am PT
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I'm headed to Seneca next wednesday... going from LA to pittsburgh for a wedding. great memories of being there when i was 11 or 12 with my dad and his friends just learning to lead trad.
Sacred place for sure. we have gone the day before new years eve the past two years and it has been beautiful... cold and even icy but beautiful. A bear was howling out to us through the fog at sunrise. timeless mememories <3
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