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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 27, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
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Went ice climbing with Daniel Galhardo.....founder of Tenkara USA. Great guy and great salesman...gave me one of his companies rods and waxed poetic about Tenkara fly fishing. Itching to get going although i have never fly fished. I slay fish with spinning tackle when i climb in the Winds or sea kayak.
Stories or suggestions appreciated.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Dec 27, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
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There is a lot of discussion on the "Backpacking Light" website in the "fishing" forum. Never tried it myself, but it seems to make a lot of sense for the sierra and other backcountry areas.
edit: Whoa; gave you a rod? Nice gift. It is a very simplistic form of fly fishing from what I understand, and very lightweight.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
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Yeah...i like the simplicity that probably hides complexity. Rod is 12 ft. long, telescopes down to 2 ft. and weights 2.7 oz. and no reel of course.
Think about it....the weight of a quick draw.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Dec 27, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
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Is that the Korean way to FF?
Just a long pole, with a line as long as the pole?
If so, It will work OK catching BROWN BAIT in the ocean, places where the fish arn't scared of everything.
In a Trout Creek?
Good luck, the trout run and hide if a line or a pole swings over them.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2013 - 04:33pm PT
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It's Japanese....Chouinard is into it and Daniel says he usually catches more trout than people with conventional gear.
Oops...the wife is calling, off to a little XC skiing.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Dec 27, 2013 - 04:38pm PT
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It is kind of like cane pole fishing but with flies. No reel, just a line and tippet. Perfect for small lakes and stream fishing. Between the length of the rod and line you can get out over 20 feet.
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GLee
Social climber
MSO
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Dec 27, 2013 - 04:56pm PT
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Jim,
Malcolm Daly's wife Karen had a Tenkara rod that she was showing to those of us in Yellow Pine during FL2012 that she must have bought in the Boulder/Denver area...
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Dec 27, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
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Daniel says he usually catches more trout....
All fishermen make that claim.
Used one in the ocean....right over brake waters and jettys.. just drop it in, let it sink, pull up and down....small hearing just kill it..... big Halibut just love small hearing....
I would like to see one used in Hot Creek or Crooked Creek.
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adatesman
climber
philadelphia, pa
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Dec 27, 2013 - 05:51pm PT
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Yup, Mal Daly has a rod or three of theirs seems pretty addicted to it. I picked one up at his suggestion last year, and love the simplicity and the fact that everything I need fits in a small pouch I can keep in the car. If you're in Boulder, McGuckin's has them.
As for casting distance, 20 feet sounds way short.... Usually your line length is 1 to 1.5 times the rod length, plus 6 feet or so of tippet. So for my 13' Ayu2 (which is middle of the road, length-wise), I'm looking at maybe 30 feet or so of cast distance. Admittedly less than Western gear, but it was developed for small mountain streams rather than open water.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
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I know that Mal and Karen are into it.....great recommendation from my point of view.
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Dec 27, 2013 - 06:16pm PT
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I've always felt that fly fishing was something I wanted to get into when I got old...
I'm not old yet, but I'm gettin' there...
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adatesman
climber
philadelphia, pa
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Dec 27, 2013 - 06:22pm PT
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eKat- Yup, TenkaraUSA.com is Daniel's site. Great folks to work with, and super helpful. They're a bit pricier than the other places selling tenkara gear, but unlike the others they have a warranty on their rods. In theory it's limited to defects, but they replaced a rod section for me that accidentally got stepped on (was given the choice of falling on a rusty post wrapped in barbed wire or stepping on the rod, and self-preservation won out).
Another good resourse is http://www.tenkarabum.com/. Never bought anything from them, but heard good things.
On a side note, I generally take the kitchen sink when I go fishing, and this pic shows my complete Tenkara outfit except for the net. It could be pared down drastically, as I don't really need duct tape, TP, first aid kit, hand sanitizer, etc. With just the bare essentials (fly box, tippet, line, foreceps, nippers), it would easily all fit in a pocket.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Dec 27, 2013 - 06:26pm PT
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Cool a Fish'in thread!
Those rods are good for open space streams. No cover or foliage. So you have to sneak up to the water. If you can see the water, the fish can see you and scram. I like to crawl up and flop my bait upstream and let it float down over a hole. I'll use flys, but when there's live bait to be found Thats the best. Grasshoppers rule! Find a "Y" stick and tie a shirt between y's and keep'em alive. Hook'em between the shoulders and they'll flip and flop on the water. If there's any fish in the water you'll get'em! And if you don't catch any fish you can always eat the grasshoppers. Yum! After you fish out a hole go roll some underwater rocks. Those little bugs work Great to. The only problem is when the Fish'in is good, you won't want to go climbing.
Now go rip some lips!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2013 - 06:29pm PT
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adatesman....i was raised in Philly. Can you catch shad in the Delaware with Tenkara? You sound dialed....come out to Co. and i'll take you to the Black Canyon. Great climbing and the Gunnison has great fishing. You can give me some pointers, Philly boys have to stick together.
As a kid i was a Yankee fan because Mantle hit homers and the Phillies star, Richie Ashburn, was a singles hitter.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 27, 2013 - 06:30pm PT
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It's quicker and more satisfying to fish with Smith & Wesson...
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adatesman
climber
philadelphia, pa
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Dec 27, 2013 - 06:50pm PT
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Dialed? Hardly... I'm a hack who only picked up fishing again last year because the park up the street stocks trout and it gives me something to do with our 3 year old.
That said, I have taken it along when canoeing on the Schuylkill with the little one, and that seems a very workable solution for rivers. (if you don't have a 3 year old splashing in the water....)
Mal's really the guy to talk to, and hopefully he'll chime in shortly as I pinged him on FB about this. He's been out with Daniel a couple times IIRC, and is a big fan of it.
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maldaly
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 27, 2013 - 07:30pm PT
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I've been hailed. Tenkara is nothing like dapping or dropping a line from the end of a cane pole. I can cast as precisely as I can with with my western rods and with a 13 or 14' rod I can reach out to 40 or 45', plenty far for most of the rivers and creeks around here.
What I like about Tenkara:
* it's simple. I go out on the creek with a rod, a box of flies the size of a box of cigarettes and, a spool of 5X and nippers and forceps. Don't really need the nippers because I usually bite the 5x.
* I don't need to match the hatch. Or the bugs. Or the worms. I use a single fly, a sakasa Kebari, and use the water currents and varied retrieve techniques to hook up. I can fish it in the surface, in the film or sink it to the bottom. How I use the micro currents determines where and how the Kebari rides.
* the rod collapses quickly and easily. I suck at wading because of my prosthetic foot and when I collapse to rod down to 16" or so, I can carry it in my teeth or tuck it in my wading belt so I can use both hands for wading staff, etc.
* it's made me a much better western fly fisherman. By learning all the new techniques, and learning the water much better, I now catch more fish with my western rods.
* I love how the Tenkara culture does not celebrate big fish. It celebrates the beauty of the fish and the challenge of the stalk. If you check out the Tenkara blogs you'll see tons of photos to support this. Refreshing....to say the least.
* no more frozen guides in the winter.
* only 1 spool of tippet.
* no vest or chest pack.
What I don't like:
* there's nothing to talk about with fly fishermen who want to talk about their expensive rods and feels.
* there's nothing to talk about with fly fishermen who want to talk about their latest guided expedition to Alaska or the Seychelles or Patagonia.
* Wind kind of sucks with western rods. It really sucks with Tenkara. I'm learning to deal but not there yet.
* Big fish. Fish over 18" are hard to land.
Hope that helps
Maldaly
BTW, Daniel, the owner of Tenkara USA is a 5.11 rock climber and has recently taken up ice climbing.
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thebravecowboy
Social climber
Colorado Plateau
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Dec 27, 2013 - 07:33pm PT
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Skeptical until you shared this Mal, as I have been using a 1lb collapsible spinning rig for years. Your set-up sounds lighter and less fussy.
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maldaly
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 27, 2013 - 09:09pm PT
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First, Karen fished the sh#t out if all the feeder creeks into the Valley and found great holding water all over. So now there is no longer any lack of things to do on rest days or rain days. Second, you guys have to get over your short man (rod) syndrome. I use a 12' Tenkara rod on stream that are too tight for my 8' 3-Wt with fewer problems than I had with the 8'. Remember, there is no back cast with Tenkara so the casts are cleaner. I rarely foul my casts any more. If you're really freaked out buy a new Rhodo, named after the manzanita of the east, rhododendron, which overhangs everything. Makes our willow-choked creeks look like the Mississippi. It's a three stage "zoom" rod which fishes at 8'10", 9'9" and 10'6".
I. Want.
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adatesman
climber
philadelphia, pa
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Dec 27, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
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I. Want.
As do I, Mal. Very happy you got me into this, as it's *awesome*.
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adatesman
climber
philadelphia, pa
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Dec 27, 2013 - 09:24pm PT
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Id LOVE to see anyone try to hit the water of Clear creek with a fly rod. Id PAY to see that actually lol.. A 3.9 foot rod is perfect there. Tenkara,,nnnnnot so much..
Why is that, Ron? Tenkara works even in the thick stuff, by way of using the rod as a slingshot instead of a traditional cast. And with the new shift to multiple-length rods, handling after the slingshot isn't as much a problem in tight quarters.
This looks like a Western fly rod to me, but same technique... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dSvl9LK8ao
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adatesman
climber
philadelphia, pa
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Dec 27, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
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Sounds like fun, Ron, and as I said, I'm just a hack. :)
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Dec 27, 2013 - 11:37pm PT
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OK! I'm convinced, but I likely won't be switching from my favorite 9ft. 5 weight fly rod for small streams.
Donini! I think your Tenkara rod----and some practice will work great on the little stream up above your bivy-cabin in Chile!
Since Jerry & I didn't catch fish out of the somewhat large lake below your bivy, that area is wide-open for your experiments too.
Nice views from around your bivy & thank you again for inviting us to visit!
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Raymond Ochoa
climber
Missoula, Mt
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Dec 27, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
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Nice pictures of Chile. I am headed there at the end of January. No tenkara, just taking standard rods in 5-6-7 weights. Larger rod with intermediate line for lake fishing and floating for everything else. Looking forward to the trip as I have never been there.
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
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Dec 28, 2013 - 02:01am PT
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Hey, how would these things work from a small sea kayak?
Arne
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
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Dec 28, 2013 - 02:14am PT
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And how do you "reel" your fish in and land it? I'm highly interested in these things.
Arne
Hopefully she'll let me use this once in awhile.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 28, 2013 - 02:19am PT
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I don't care what kind of rig you use. If you can't think like a fish and read the water, hire a guide.
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Crag Q
Trad climber
Louisville, Colorado
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Dec 28, 2013 - 09:17am PT
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Tenkara is a really unique take on fishing. Malcom hit most of the important points. I love the departure from matching the hatch and relying on skill of properly drifting and presenting the fly. However, I am not opposed to slapping a parachute adams on my tenkara rod and cleaning up.
The way a tenkara rod casts is deadly accurate and there is no slapping the water from your fly line. It is absolutely beautiful the way the fly lands and the cast is easy to pick up unlike western style which takes years to master. This makes you much sneakier and a sneaky fisherman is always a better fisherman. For a backpacking fly rod it can not be beat.
All that said, I still love my western fly rod and fish that more than my Tenkara rod. My wife is a total convert and part of the appeal is not frigging around with all the knots and gear. In a head to head fish off this summer in Leadville she out fished me. So, there you go.
The other thing about fly fishing that I have found is that it is a perfect compliment to more physical pursuits like climbing. There are also many places where there is great climbing and great fishing.
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maldaly
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 28, 2013 - 11:40am PT
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What Craig Q said.
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ryankelly
Trad climber
el portal
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Dec 28, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
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I love my Tenkara for small mountain streams.
The reach is somewhat limited for big water, although experts claim with a long level line you can make the reach. I have not had much success on lakes, yet.
My buddy Nate describes Tenkara as the Telemark of fly fishing!
Great way to break into the world of fly fishing. Another ski analogy: you gotta have a quiver.
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Dec 28, 2013 - 12:18pm PT
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Jim,
Remember this spot?
I need to hike down there and catch some.
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ryankelly
Trad climber
el portal
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Dec 28, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
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on a spinner?
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Dec 28, 2013 - 02:30pm PT
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ryankelly,
I've only fished with a fly-rod, but Jim always seems to do better with his spinner. He always comes back, and say's, " I didn't catch much", but then proceeds to pull out the biggest fish.
It will be interesting to see how he does practicing this new method.
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ryankelly
Trad climber
el portal
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Dec 28, 2013 - 02:41pm PT
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SteveA:
Those are beauties.
Browns or rainbows? can't tell from the photo
Donini:
Wow. Had no idea you are a Philly boy. I'm out here now in Philly visiting my folks and trolling SuperTopo.
I'm starting a distance grad program at Western State Colorado University in Gunnison. I will be out there for my fist visit in August. My buddy NoPants Ben Lepesant has told me a bit about your trips to the Winds. Whats the good word in Gunnison?
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Dec 28, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
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ryankelley,
Jim Donini, could tell you better than me, since he hiked over the pass, down by Mt. Hooker, and caught a bunch. I'm pretty sure they were cutthroat's.
The guys said you could practically scoop them out with your hands. Ops.
(better not let the secret out)
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11worth
Trad climber
Leavenworth & Greenwater WA
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Dec 29, 2013 - 03:11pm PT
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My wife gave me a Tenkara rod for Christmas.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 29, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
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Jim give me a call, Bridwell keeps bugging me to take him fly fishing, when we're road tripping and I'm fly rodding, he's bored. I can teach you both, we can fish then go do some reasonable routes. Fish live pretty much in the same places as great routes! Fly fishing is killer!
Peace
Edit: looked it up, I want one, looks like minimal gear and easy to do. I''m in.
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PaulC
Social climber
Traffic Jam Ledge
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I'm from a multigenerational fly-fishing family but I never had the patience to learn and practice traditional western fly-fishing. Although I am a tenkara newbie, I'm pretty psyched. I love the simplicity; the focus is on fishing and not the gear. Tenkara is great for fishing mountain streams, backpacking & is easy to learn. Tenkara USA is the way to go: strong focus on customer service & great products.
See http://www.tenkarausa.com/video.php for some Tenkara USA videos.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 5, 2014 - 12:47pm PT
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Chomping at the bit to bring my new Tenkara rod down to our place in Patagonia...we will be there for six weeks starting on 2/1.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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After reading this thread again, I want to check this Tenkara thing out. I learned how to fly-fish years ago but never got into messing with all the gear. I have mastered spin-fishing with ultra-lights and homemade spinners and usually out-fish my fly-fishing buddies. Steelhead with 5lb. test and a 5' ultra-light is so much fun. I would like to hook up a steely on a Tenkara. That would be fun. Maybe. How would you let him run if you were outgunned? Do you just let him break off?
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JonA
Trad climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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I would like to hook up a steely on a Tenkara. That would be fun. Maybe. How would you let him run if you were outgunned? Do you just let him break off
Herein lies the problem with tenkara. Hooking a large trout is only half the fun, playing him efficiently and landing him is arguably an even more elusive skill. With a tenkara I image he'd brake off on the first run.
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maldaly
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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JonA, just as you wouldn't go up on ElCap with your bouldering gear and you wouldn't run the Grand Canyon in a rowboat, you wouldn't fish for steelies with Tenkara. Choose the tool appropriate for the activity. Tenkara was invented in small mountain streams and excels at catching small trout in those places.
Mal
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 14, 2014 - 11:26am PT
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Daniel and Margaret Galhardo (Tenkara USA) came to Ouray with Mal Daly. We went ice climbing on Sunday and fishing on Monday.....nice winter combo. I actually caught a trout, fair warning to all Patagonian fish....I'm on my way!
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Daniel @ Tenkara USA
Trad climber
Boulder
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Jan 14, 2014 - 06:39pm PT
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Hi all. I'm Daniel, owner of Tenkara USA. Mal Daly and Jim Donini told me about this thread and told me to join Supertopo, so here I am.
It was a blast being able to teach Donini something new yesterday. I'm honored he would become interested in tenkara. After ice climbing together on Sunday, yesterday we fished just outside of Ridgeway below a dam (best places for winter fishing). The fish were there, though not so active (maybe temperature swings? dunno). Donini picked up the casting very quickly, and after I had been trying to fool a couple of fish in a pool he cast a couple of times in front of me and hooked a nice 12 incher. I think he's got the touch, and tenkara should be a good addition to his list of activities in Patagonia. Here's Jim Donini, Malcolm Daly and myself with our rods:
I snapped a photo right before the fish let itself free (auto-release we call it):
My wife caught a couple of fish pretty quickly:
A little bit about me:
I have been fishing since I was a toddler. Fly-fishing for about 15 years. Climbing for just about as long. 5 years ago I discovered tenkara. It was refreshing in how simple it was and how well it went with other activities because it is so portable. For years I had to choose between climbing and fly-fishing, tenkara really attracted me because of how simple it was but also how it was so quick to setup and the equipment so portable. Suddenly I felt I could climb and tenkara on the same trips. I enjoyed that. So, I created Tenkara USA and became the first person to introduce tenkara outside of Japan.
One of my favorite things in the world is to combine climbing (or adventure in general) with tenkara.
I go to Japan every year and combine the two in the form of "shower climbing" (very wet canyoneering) with tenkara. I'm stoked to see other fellow climbers interested in tenkara (and maybe climbing and tenkara).
If you're interested in some reading, here's a story I did for a fly-fishing magazine about a two-month trip in Japan doing climbing and tenkara: http://www.tenkarausa.com/blog/?p=5049
And, I'll end my post with this short video I made, one of my favorites so far: http://www.tenkarausa.com/blog/?p=5484
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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adatesman
climber
philadelphia, pa
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Jan 14, 2014 - 06:46pm PT
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Good to see you posting up, Daniel! Judging from this thread not many around here have heard of tenkara, so hopefully this will spread the word a bit. Fun stuff.
-aric.
BTW, in your video above, what's the chemistry apparatus in this pic? Vacuum coffee pot?
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Daniel @ Tenkara USA
Trad climber
Boulder
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Jan 14, 2014 - 07:44pm PT
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Adatesman,
Thanks for the comment.
About the coffee maker/holder, to be honest I'm not exactly sure because I didn't see it getting made. They just brought it out like that. I believe it was a siphon/vacuum type of maker, they just gave us the holder part with the coffee. This is the closest I found with a little research: http://coffeegeek.com/guides/siphoncoffee
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adatesman
climber
philadelphia, pa
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Jan 14, 2014 - 08:16pm PT
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Yup, if there was coffee in it, that's what it is! Been meaning to give that a try, but am seriously hooked on French Press.
Thanks!
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Crag Q
Trad climber
Louisville, Colorado
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Jan 14, 2014 - 08:45pm PT
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Daniel welcome to supertopo!
I discovered the Pa-co-chu-puk fishery last year when I went to Ouray to go ice climbing. I had the strange situation where I wanted to wrap up ice climbing early and tear out to Ridgway to fish instead. My climbing partners who I've known for 20 years or more were mystified. It's a beautiful little spot even if the fish are reluctant.
I suspect it's only a matter of time before our paths cross. I fish and climb in Eldo too and I've been having fun deciphering where some of your favorite spots are from your blog posts. It's pretty shocking how much the flood changed the river in Eldo.
The Tenkara magazine you put together this year is beautiful and amazing. Nice work!
Cheers.
Craig
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Daniel @ Tenkara USA
Trad climber
Boulder
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Jan 14, 2014 - 10:43pm PT
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Hey Crag, I'm sure we'll run into each other. The next two months will be a bit tough as I'm going to a tradeshow just about every weekend, I'll be sneaking out Monday-Wednesdays for just short outings. It will be fun to see you around the Boulder Creeks sometime.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 14, 2014 - 10:50pm PT
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Thanks Daniel for the Tenkara lesson, I hope to put it to good use in Patagonia in a few weeks.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jan 14, 2014 - 11:47pm PT
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Jim..The Wissahickon has some great fishing, along with the White Clay in Chester County and Ridley Creek in Delaware County. My old man got me into fly fishing and birding in Philly when I was a kid.
This was his favorite and we used to hit it up a few times a year. I can still see him in that creek with his waders on and his bamboo fly rod.
http://www.outdoorphotographer.com/columns/favorite-places/octoraro-creek-pennsylvania.html
PA has some great creeks to fish.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jan 14, 2014 - 11:51pm PT
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Jim you did good with the spinning rig in the winds, but think how many you would have caught on a fly rig. By the way if anyone gets back to hooker look for my leather man and Swiss Army knife on the shore. The Boy Scouts camping at one of the one foot wide streams above the lake were catching two pounders with their hands.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jan 15, 2014 - 12:08am PT
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The first three pictures are from the trip into the winds two and a half years ago and the last is from the Big Horns this summer with Jack. We had a spinning rod and a fly rod and we really never did to good with the spinning rod(probably due to lack of skill) but we did do great with the fly rod and I caught this monster brookie in a very small stream that gave me the fight of my life. Jack did very well with the fly rod as well with very little practice. With these Rods being talked about in this thread is the line just tied on the end of the rod?
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Jan 15, 2014 - 12:09am PT
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Hmm, only now seeing this thread.
Cool stuff though.
And welcome Daniel.
I've been looking at and thinking about Tenkara for a few years now but just haven't pulled the trigger yet. I've watched your vids too and really see and understand the appeal.
I like the simplicity of the idea though truth be told when I head into the back country I always bring my gear and there really isn't a weight issue unless you're a noob and want to bring all that shite anyway.
One can get by with very little despite all that marketing targeted at us.
This though; "For years I had to choose between climbing and fly-fishing,..." has never been a problem for me. Heck choose both. And I see you found a cool way to combine them.
But yes a telescoping fly rod would sure be sweet.
Now salt-water FF is a different story no?
cheers
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Crag Q
Trad climber
Louisville, Colorado
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Jan 16, 2014 - 11:09pm PT
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Hi Mike M.
Those are some cool pictures from the Winds! The Wind Rivers have to be one of the most underrated ranges in the U.S.(except by climbers).
The line on a tenkara rod is attached to the tip. There is a small cord called a lillian that is permanently affixed to the tip. The line is tied to to that with a simple self tightening loop. If you are used a regular fly rod it seems weird to not see a bunch of hardware on the rod. A tenkara rod is also typically quite a bit longer (12-13')than a western rod.
-Craig
P.S. Good call on the bug head net. My wife and I got driven mad by Mosquitos on the West side one time.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 17, 2014 - 12:05am PT
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Donini when you get back, you give me a Tenkara lesson....I'll give you and Jimbo a fly casting lesson, we fish, climb a bit then PARTAY a bit!
Peace
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Crag Q
Trad climber
Louisville, Colorado
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Feb 28, 2014 - 08:46am PT
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Spring is on the way at Boulder Creek. Caught a half dozen little brown trout who were in a midge frenzy with the venerable Ishigaki kebari fly during lunch.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Feb 28, 2014 - 10:06am PT
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WANT ONE!
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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The recent Patagonia fly fishing catalog has a brief article on Tenkara.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2014 - 03:54pm PT
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Nursing an infected big toe so I finally got to put the Tenkara rod Dainiel (Tenkara USA) gave me. Went to a tiny reservoir at 9600 ft. about 8 miles from Ouray. In less than 45 minutes I caught and released 16 smallish, but fiesty, rainbows. They felt like bigger fish on the ltwt. Tenkara gear and were loads of fun.
In the same time another fisherman, using conventional fly gear, caught two fish.
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rhyang
climber
SJC
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Dec 21, 2014 - 12:56pm PT
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I don't really read superttopo anymore, but ran into a friend at the grocery store today who told me about this thread.
Jim, I took up Tenkara this past summer and have been really enjoying it. I'm pretty much a beginner at flyfishing, last time I fished was as a child some 40 years ago. I like how light and compact the whole thing is -- makes it easy to bring fishing gear on backcountry trips.
I was explaining to a coworker a while back that I have a broken neck, a broken back, and a spinal cord injury. She was incredulous that I still climb .. how and why ? Why indeed ? I needed some other way to enjoy the mountains beside climbing.
Fishing for me is about being out in nature and enjoying the outdoors. It's not about measuring the fish, or measuring your self-worth by comparing yourself to others.
So here's to fishing in the mountains -
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Dec 21, 2014 - 12:58pm PT
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Beautiful, just beautiful...
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ClimberDave
Trad climber
The LBC, CA
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Great thread!
I don't get out climbing much these days, spend more time peakbagging and hiking and now trail running,
Frequently when running when looking for a destination to run to I find a lake in the back country. The other day I was at Forth Recess Lake and saw a lone fisherman and thought it would be cool to do some fishing away from the masses in Little Lakes Valley.
A few days later was in Kittredge Sports in Mammoth and saw the Tenkara Rods, never heard of or seen them before.
Small and light enough to stash in my running vest, think im going to added one to my XMas list.
Any suggestions as to model?? Would likely be used most in sierra lakes, maybe some creeks and streams.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 2, 2018 - 09:58am PT
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I love my rod, weighs virtually nothing and is great for streams and small mountain lakes. Mine is from Tenkara USA, great folks based in Boulder...google them.
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silverplume
Trad climber
Boulder
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ClimberDave: Daniel at Tenkara USA is a friend and frequent climbing partner. Great rods.
Two factors you'll want to consider are reach and size of fish you typically catch. Generally speaking you want to use the longest rod you can for the stream or body of water you're fishing. A great all-around rod is the Sato and it's my favorite. I typically fish in small mountain streams here in Colorado- and the Sato is great for that. I've also used the Sato for fishing high alpine lakes and it does pretty well. It's a 3-position zoom rod, so it gives you a lot of flexibility in terms of reach and feel.
Usually for shoreline lake fishing I go for a longer rod -- something like the Amago or the Ito. The Ito is the longest rod Tenkara USA sells and since it's a zoom rod, you basically get two rods in one. It's ideally suited for wider streams, larger rivers, and lake/ponds and it can play very large fish -- I've caught carp on the Ito without any problems. The Amago is a bit shorter and not a 'zoom' rod. It's equally capable, but feels a bit stiffer than the Ito. Both are great.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jim, tell us how Green Berets fish, if nobody is listening. 😀
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ecdh
climber
the east
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climbing in japan you constantly come across evidence of the hardcore tenkara crowd. dodgy little ropes down faces to tiny secret pools and bends, small fires etc. seems half the idea of tenkara is eating the catch out there.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 2, 2018 - 02:47pm PT
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C4 Reilly...works everytime.
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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What I like about fly fishing is the casting-I like to see if I can hit the spot and set up a drift. And good luck on bigger water.
The tenkara fishing I've seen did not interest me.
It's probably good for tight streams but I could do the same with my fly rod by just holding out ten feet of line and drifting it.
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ClimberDave
Trad climber
The LBC, CA
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Silverplume, Thanks for the info the Sato looks like the ticket will look into that!
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Tenkara aesthetics blah blah--fly fishing blah blah-- I dabbled in fly fishing for a dozen years or more. Then got a $13 spinning kit at Walmart and found that catching trout is relatively easy vs. nearly impossible.
Haha! Ya, that's kind of the point. If you fish enough, catching small mountain trout on a spinner gets less and less interesting.
Then you switch to fly fishing because it's more complicated.
If that gets too easy, then you try tenkara just to give the fish an even bigger advantage :)
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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^^^ And then you take up reaching under cut banks to ‘hand fish’.
So what’s to stop you from putting 30’ of line on yer Tenkara to get to the lunker hole?
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Good to see this thread resurrected. Still haven't bought a tenkara. Seems like the perfect rig for streams.
When lake fishing, go with the spinning rig and a bubble and fly. Works on small streams as well.
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