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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Dec 21, 2013 - 11:44am PT
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You should not own a firearm.
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Nemesis
climber
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Dec 21, 2013 - 11:45am PT
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That is rich, someone from a communist country saying he has never felt threatened. Thanks for the chuckle. Yeah, you have it made alright!
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Nemesis
climber
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Dec 21, 2013 - 11:46am PT
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Good lord i got the B team replying here. HUMORLESS to the 10th power.
In my short time here I have noticed that basically this entire site is comprised of the "B team".
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Dec 21, 2013 - 11:50am PT
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Breaking news, surprise birthday party ends in tragedy as a nevada man shoots all his family and friends
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 21, 2013 - 12:00pm PT
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So this is how it happens: some poor homeless sap, out in the alley looking through the dumpster when this happens. Rong opens the door, and the poor guy is startled, and holds up the stick in his hand. Rong sees something in his hand, and empties his gun into him.
Happens all the time.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 21, 2013 - 12:07pm PT
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Well what did you expect around here? It could have actually been a bad guy, firing a gun in your direction, and you could have successfully taken him down and saved your life...
and they'd all still flame you.
Should have used a bolt gun.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 21, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
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Ron attended a meeting of his fan club ONE TIME. He brought his AK, his nine, and his temper. The fan club disbanded. It's how the stripper came to love him.
I like him fine. You gentlemen have opinions and are wlcome to them. Ron is not as rude as some bastards around here.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 21, 2013 - 12:34pm PT
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I on the other hand carry heat..I have bathed in heat.
Said like a real Flame, Ron. Good man!
Locker and load.
there ain't no alleys
just the Carson Valley's
little less scenic places
are now filled with faces
that are less than cool
and Ron's no man's fool
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Dec 21, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
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Those that are lacking go packing...Are you a rat packer Locker...?
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 21, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
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Don't worry about all these negative pussies here on this stupid forum Ron.
You did what you needed according to time and circumstance.
Fuk these stupid pussy ass losers here .....
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 21, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
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Yeah, but did you EAT the biscuits?
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Dec 21, 2013 - 12:58pm PT
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Ron what are you doing dicking around with a 9mm? .45 is the only way to go bro.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 21, 2013 - 01:01pm PT
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Pillsbury Dough Boy killed in late night shooting, film at eleven. Hahaha. Sounds so scary. Glad you are safe Ron.
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speelyei
Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
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Dec 21, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
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Don't get too narrow in your thinking and visualize different responses to these scenarios.
When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 21, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
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It's disturbing when people you put in jail actually DO show up at your house. Had that happen once. Didn't pull a gun, just chatted with the kid. He apologized and offered to repay what he stole, and I told him to keep it and just live a good life, take care of his kid.
Another time, some dude came looking for the previous owner of the house I'd bought. Started getting loud and rude with me (f this, f that, you're f-ing lying, etc). I'd just got back from a hunt, so stepped back, let the door flop a little more open, and put both hands at my waist, right hand touching a 357.
Dude said "oh, sorry" turned around and walked away.
These things have their place.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Dec 21, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
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Ignore these bitches Ron. Most of them live in nice cozy cities where a 911 call get's prompt response. I on the other hand live in the f*#king middle of nowhere where 911 means 20 mins or more in response time. Believe me, I'm armed. I just like my weapon better than your's.
There's nothing that says NO better than the sound of a Remington 870 Pump shotgun being breached.
The whole purpose of home defense is not to kill someone, it's to take away their motivation. It's very difficult to be motivated when you are laying in an ER while some Dr. is extracting several hundred small lead pellets out of your dick and waist.
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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Dec 21, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
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too bad you did not get to eat the biscuits. back to the store.
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Dec 21, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
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Yeah,that'll do the job Locker. I just happen to like the .45 best. I'm a bit of a collector though,and am biased I suppose.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 21, 2013 - 01:43pm PT
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"You should not own a firearm."
+1111111111111!!!!11166999
'Humorless'?
Pathetic, more like.
Ron, you are certainly smart enough to know that posting a story like this was only going to expose you to ridicule...and for good reason...this is a really stoooopid example of over-reaction.
Yet you post it anyway.
Yep...you're a troll. No doubt about it.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Dec 21, 2013 - 01:47pm PT
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Pistols are great, but only if you're a good shot. The 12 gauge is the way to go to ensure motivation reduction.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Dec 21, 2013 - 01:47pm PT
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He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 21, 2013 - 01:53pm PT
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"After hearing what sounded exactly like a .25 caliber going off twice? "
That's exactly what's so frightening about this...you can't tell the difference between a gun & a poppin' fresh tube of dough.
Why the feck would you even consider posting this embarrassing story? It only confirms the moronic image you so carefully cultivate & project to everyone here at ST.
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bergbryce
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Dec 21, 2013 - 01:53pm PT
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So close to your very own Cragman moment!
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Dec 21, 2013 - 01:55pm PT
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After hearing what sounded exactly like a .25 caliber going off twice?
I think we are going to need have audio confirmation on this....
Go get another round of Pop n' Freshes,and set em up! We'd like to have video, as well. Since you have an idea of the missile trajectory, I suggest you also paste a life-sized Pillsbury Doughboy on the wall and get an idea as to how effective those cannons are.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Dec 21, 2013 - 01:56pm PT
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Sorry Ron but falling biscuits sounds exactly like a .22, but you were sleepy so I can understand your mistake.
Edit: hehe happygirl.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 21, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 21, 2013 - 02:04pm PT
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Seems like a basic security camera system could keep innocent people from getting shot. If that South African athlete had a camera in his bathroom a tragedy could have been avoided, but it seems he actually wanted to shoot somebody. If an intruder is using your bathroom, and the door is closed, wait till they come out to pump the lead in.
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Anastasia
climber
Home
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Dec 21, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
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I totally understand. I once heard our neighborhood Mountain Lion on my roof again and went ballistic. It's big so it makes a bit of more noise than our raccoon family. Plus Loki always goes nuts too. I am a bit over protective, Mama crazy these days...
I totally understand the reaction. Though now I have promised myself to
simply call the police since they are very effective here.
AFS
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Dec 21, 2013 - 02:10pm PT
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As to what guns sound like, I haven't really heard much. A few skeet shoots my grandpa went to, the occasional report from the various pistols and guns fired by my brothers and father(who was a bit of a collector), and hunter's rifles during deer season.
But even I knew it wasn't a gun when - but a week after a madman(who HAD had restraining orders out on him) threatened to shoot everyone at the (not going to insert the name of place, as I prefer it not come up in searches), when I heard "BLAM!" and then two more "BLAMMM's" at 3am, I knew it was too small a noise to be a firearm.
Not that I went out to investigate, mind you. I stayed hunkered in my little bed, hoping to hell if it WAS a marauder that Teddy wouldn't give us away if he happened by too closely...
But the next morning, when I found the burned tubes from some pretty big fireworks, I was glad I had not over-reacted.
I gotta find it hard to believe, given my OWN inexperienced ability to discern, that whatever caliber gun you mentioned sounds JUST LIKE the Pillsbury Doughboy's product getting ejected under pressure......
I WANT A REPLAY!!! Pleeeeze Ron... PLEASE go for an historic reenactment of the assault! It will be funny, I know it. (And I am not blaming you for jumping the gun there, on those muffins) Sorry - you HAD to know this thread would get the laughs. HAD to!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 21, 2013 - 02:12pm PT
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This thread desperately needs a 'shopped image of Ron standing over a tube of poppin' fresh dough in his flannel PJ's.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 21, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
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Thank goodness we'll always see you as a victim (of your own stupidity)
this from FartMetal, who is a kind and forgiving brotherly love sort of liberal who makes a Mormon elder look like a faggot.
Nyah, why don't you go back to kindergarten and learn to think before you post, you silly man?
I pity people like you, who don't know not to generalize when chastising, as if you know what's best in every sit.
Sit the f*#k down and shut mouth!
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Dec 21, 2013 - 02:44pm PT
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
Nevada City
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Dec 21, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
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i lol'd.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 21, 2013 - 02:58pm PT
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There ya go, troll.
You've got your very own Cragman-style pic...will you go sit down, now?
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 21, 2013 - 03:00pm PT
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hey... is that a stevens 311? got one just like it, but uglier. chukar hate it.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 21, 2013 - 03:19pm PT
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I made a grooved knob to replace the stock on my Stoeger 20 for an under the duster crowd pleaser.
Hey locker, the Kahr is not a double action, it is striker fired.
A good CCW piece, but poor home defender.
I've said this before; shotguns are for remaining in place and defending your loved ones. If you have to go through doors a long gun becomes a liability if you are not specially trained. You are better off with a long barreled handgun, 9mm minimum, equipped with a light (mandatory) and perhaps a laser as well.
And a real gun nut doesn't just use Hoppes #9 as after shave; he sprinkles some on his biscuits too.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 21, 2013 - 03:24pm PT
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You have a serious issue with attention-seeking behavior, Ron.
No doubt a lot of us have such inclinations, but yours are head & shoulders above the rest of us.
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The Call Of K2 Lou
climber
The 'burbs of Vancouver
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Dec 21, 2013 - 03:52pm PT
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Dude, you probably wouldn't need to pack all that heat if you didn't live in what is, judging by your frequent descriptions, the worst neighbourhood in America. Maybe sell that s#!t and move on up to Canada.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 21, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
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It is FAR from the worst neighborhood, it just SOUNDS like a war zone, but it isn't at all. I slept soundly and quietly in my ride outside, and not a creature stirred to disturb me. It's not a city, it's not the country, it's just bleak as hell and people come there to seek whores. Things are bound to happen, but they are blocks away. I should have taken more photos of the lovely spot when I had the chance.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 21, 2013 - 04:07pm PT
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Dec 21, 2013 - 04:13pm PT
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Not to be rude, but does taxidermy involve inhaled chemicals?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 21, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 21, 2013 - 07:19pm PT
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Just back from town;
to clarify
On a standard double action handgun one has the choice of cocking an external hammer first and then shooting single action, or just pulling harder on the trigger to perform both actions sequentially.
A single action handgun will only fire after it has been cocked.
A DAO does not permit the shooter to choose. All shots are double action.
Technically a striker fired gun is none of the above, however, Kahr calls it a DAO because there is no external hammer and it operates in a manner similar to a fully shrouded DAO.
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clinker
Trad climber
California
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Dec 21, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
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The gun thing. We have people in our happy society who can handle that for us.
Ron, what the---- can I say. A whole lot of highly educated people are spoiled-f'n stupid.
I like my biscuits and liberty made from scratch.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 21, 2013 - 09:24pm PT
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its getting dark- do you know where your biscuits are?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 21, 2013 - 09:56pm PT
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Ya know, usually ya need dough to get guns and ammo, not the reverse unless you are a criminal.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Dec 21, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
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That kel-tech POS I didn't want to say anything, but thanks for saying this for me Ron. Oh apogee.....get a life.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Dec 21, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
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It's all personal preferences, caliber included. Funny story Ron , glad you figured out the mystery of the biscuits. And now plaidman has a sidekick, you should have taken a trophy pic though.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Dec 21, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
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Stumble out of the bedroom wiping yur eyes to see wtf? After hearing what sounded exactly like a .25 caliber going off twice?
.25 cal? Well hell.. I'd have just rolled over and gone back to sleep..I'm not sure those things can get through glass with enough energy to do any more damage.
:) Thanks for the story Ron.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 22, 2013 - 12:35am PT
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no, the 25 is an awesome gun for defensive scenarios...
they're small enough that nobody knows when you're packing. then, when trouble appears, shoot yer buddy in the knees and run. extra pimp-daddy style points for having a chromed out, pearl handled, engraved Raven.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:14am PT
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I roll out of bed grabbing a keltech 9mm as i fully expect a badguy around the wall from me...
Just another shining example of a simple fact:
A gun in home for "self defense" is 10 to 20 times more likely to be used to accidentally kill someone in the home - or be used by someone in the home for suicide - than it is to be used in a true case of "self defense."
The cure is worse than the disease. Amerika is full of gun nuts.
For every example of "home defense" with a gun you can throw at me, I'll throw back 10 to 20 cases of someone accidentally shooting their spouse or father or son, or someone killing themself with a "home defense" weapon.
THE CURE IS WORSE THAN THE DISEASE.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:15am PT
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Time to make the doughnuts.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:16am PT
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And ropes get used for suicide too. What do the statistics look like without the suicides? Does having rope in the house make you more likely to get hanged?
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:22am PT
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And ropes get used for suicide too. What do the statistics look like without the suicides?
A typical ignorant counter-argument by the gun nuts.
FACT: >90% of suicide attempts fail (because most attempts are just gestures). But a gun in the home makes it almost certain that a suicide attempt will be successful, especially if the person is male. Statistics for ropes and knives do not even come close to matching the fatality rates assocaited with "self defense" guns in the home, even in countries that have few guns.
The cure is worse than the disease.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:26am PT
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Ron, your gun is 10 to 20 times more likely to be used to accidentally kill you or someone else in your home (e.g., a vistor) than it is to be used defending against an intruder. What part of that don't you understand?
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:40am PT
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SLR... Really? Typically ignorant? WTF is your problem with such a question?
It's just as legitimate as asking the "gun nuts" who believe their firearms are there to protect them against government tyranny just exactly at what point they become justified in using those firearms against such tyranny.
YOU posted the statement that having a firearm makes it more likely blah blah blah...
Yeah, I saw some of those studies. They plainly state that, statistically, the presence of the firearm makes that more likely. Statistically, can you explain how someone without a rope in the home (or some other type of cordage) could manage to hang themselves?
Guess what dude... YOU sir, are probably about 20 times more likely to die in a cave than the rest of us. So how, exactly, do you justify such an inherently dangerous activity? Statistically, you know, most people don't do caves. So, by that action, you put yourself at greater risk of a death in that location.
Hell, for all we know, maybe it's the damn biscuits that statistically make Ron's firearms more dangerous!
Maybe, just maybe, statistically, depressed, suicidal people are more likely to kill themselves.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:09am PT
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Nevermind. This isn't one of the gun threads. Thanks for the story Ron. I'm going to go do something else now.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:19am PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:25am PT
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Without ever reading this thread I've been watching the body count build thinking that I would
eventually have to step in and actually explain quantitative easing. So when I finally decided to take the plunge tonight imagine my relief upon seeing that it was just some light entertainment.
But then my initial joy turned to sorrow when it became apparent that many here were taking it
seriously. Well, it was seriously a sad thing about those poor dough balls but not as sad as
the dough heads who sought to 'enlighten' Ron.
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Fish Finder
Social climber
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Dec 22, 2013 - 09:15am PT
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who gives a shlt about guns or biscuits
truth is if it doesnt bounce back
you go hungry!!
ricochet biscuit....couldnt resist
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Thanks for the story Ron and Happy Holidays
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 10:16am PT
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SLR,
where on the CDC site do you get the 10-20 figures?
Sounds a bit like the Seattle study, which was ludicrously flawed methodology.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2013 - 10:22am PT
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^^^^ Bingo we have a winner.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 10:23am PT
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Bingo, we have a goggle wearer.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 10:26am PT
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Actually, it is philo wearing the goggles.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 10:43am PT
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Locker,
if you were wary at the ATM, if you were wary of being followed, if you were wary of who was at your door, then a gun might have changed the outcome.
It is not a magic talisman. It requires intelligent deployment.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 10:45am PT
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Famous last words, locker.
There is a difference between wary and paranoid.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Dec 22, 2013 - 10:48am PT
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Locker...And have your biscuits pop on you...
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 10:50am PT
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If you can make a whisker biscuit pop you've got it licked.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 10:52am PT
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You think I haven't been around the block?
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Dec 22, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
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I don't know...
I had my apartment broken into twice. It did make me feel uncomfortably vulnerable for a few days.
I have had men follow me as I was heading into an isolated area. Luckily I had the presence of mind one time to notice the person (coming in from a left flank position) and turn right back around before I was close to being in a dangerous predicament. Another time, when I noticed the dude trailing me several feet behind (in Fort Tryon Park, upper Manhattan, quite wooded, sparsely used in the '90's when I lived there) and I knew I had to get out, and so I MOVED, as quickly as I could, to get to an open space.
Had a "seemingly nice guy" suddenly turn very ugly in Central Park. It was near the Boathouse, and I had been sitting on a knoll nearby. There was some shrubbery in the area, but it seemed to be a fairly exposed, and thus safe, spot. They guy, after chatting me up, quietly says "I can rape you, right here, right now." Before he had finished the sentence I was on my feet, ready to kick him in the face and, yelled. Help! This man is attacking me!" He of course quickly evaporated.
Have had a man walk up to me when I was 19, in Wisconsin, and my sense was that he intended to grab my bag and run. We were on the damned open sidewalk! So, I clutched the bag tightly, and looked him directly in the face as we approached. He wasn't going to get my bag, but if he did, I would be able to describe him in the police report. As he drew nearer, I thought I might have misread the situation, but still held that bag firm. The guy said "hello" in a friendly way as we were almost next to each other, which in aftersight seemed as if it was intended to get me to let my guard down. In the next moment, he grabbed my boob, as he said "Have a nice day!" in a cheerful tone. That guy, I kicked his ass. I turned around and smacked him in the head with that clutch purse, calling him several foul-mouthed names(which of course I now realize he probably spanked off to the recollection of, once at home). He was actually SHOCKED at the affront, and whined "Why are you HITTING me? I didn't do anything to hurt you." and the sad - sad- thing is that he probably believed it.
I have been mugged, and at the time thought the intent was to kill me.
I had a group of priveldeged teenaged boys in fancy private school blazers surround me and attempt to grab me, and it was very obvious at the time they felt it was their RIGHT to do so.
I've had a few men threaten to kill me, outright and face to face - not something implied. I've had men threaten to rape me.
I have EVEN directly confronted a man who was KNOWN to be armed and had just fired the weapon, using only my big fat double-barreled mouth and gut feeling. (That guy lost his concealed carry permit as a result.)
I spent the first 20 years of my life in what I suppose some people refer to as that "High Alert" awareness of surroundings. They say to gauge your surroundings and raise the alert level as needed. I had to be at the highest level, for a large majority of the day, and ALL hours of darkness. For twenty years.
But even with this - I don't think a gun would be a beneficial thing for me to have. I don't, anymore, have to be on High Alert, and I have learned to be aware of my surroundings in a general way, to recognize potential hazard. I try to insure I don't put myself in vulnerable positions, and that really does seem to be fairly effective. Do I think I am beyond being attacked? Robbed, or killed for the sport of some sick man's hobby? No, I don't. It could happen, and as I have learned, it can happen in broad daylight. All the person needs is that few seconds of time to gain the advantage, when they are aware of their intent and I haven't yet become aware.
But.... that's just me. I can see why someone wants a gun as home protection. I just don't think that I could ever pull the trigger should I come upon someone in my home.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Dec 22, 2013 - 12:26pm PT
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Nonetheless - The Poppin' Fresh Bandit story IS awesome!
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 22, 2013 - 12:40pm PT
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I need to get a gun.
I'm being threatened by these anti gun nuts not to have a gun.
:-)
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 22, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
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When I get my gun Locker will be vedy vedy scared and run into the woods.
There's no escape .....
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 22, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
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I hid my Glock in a strategic location in my house so when they came to get me I could go there and surprise them! Well, I can't figure out where that location is. So, I hid my 357 in a strategic location.........
I just need to get enough guns so that I'm bound to find one of them! That's how squirrels operate.
When I was a kid I would have dreams like somebody was breaking into the house and I would run to get a gun in my parents room. I would find the damn gun but there where no bullets and I had to look for those. I hate it when that happens.
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speelyei
Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
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Dec 22, 2013 - 12:49pm PT
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If you carry a gun in your home to confront pop&serve biscuits,
Would you then carry a gun in New Orleans in case you ran into a baguette?
A French loaf in San Francisco?
A bagel in Greenwich Village?
A loaf of Dave's Killer at Costco?
A cornbread in Terlingua?
Would this be patissier profiling?
Donuts aren't bad, there's just some bad donuts.
Then a few years down the line, your daughter brings home a croissant from college.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
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Sorry, I stepped out to go to the supermarket and while I was in the produce department I took a leek.
It is really great that so many of you have led such charmed lives, but history repeatedly shows us that there is a potential for a breakdown in civility. In such a time my preps will have yielded the most potential, but even just looking at it from an economic perspective, my ordnance has proven to be a great investment.
And then there is the recreational benefit.
These days I get out more for shooting than for climbing, and while my best climbs may be behind me my tightest groups could still be ahead of me.
Do I keep a roscoe at the ready if something goes biscuit in the night?
Do you have to ask? REALLY?
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
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Love your gun and it will love you.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
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Well I know lots of people who should be limited to purchasing only so many biscuits per month,..
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:27pm PT
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Mr Kay writes:
"Unfortunately you can't ban poor judgement....... BUT YOU CAN SURE BAN GUNS TO COMPENSATE!"
If you can't beat them, join them, I suppose.
You can't ban poor judgement, so in response, you propose an idea that doubles-down on poor judgement.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:28pm PT
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Their flames carry NO HEAT John.. I on the other hand carry heat..I have bathed in heat. And youll NEVER see me in the news as a VICTIM.
That's what I'm sayin'.....you'll be in the news as the PERP, who killed in innocent homeless woman.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:34pm PT
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They MOST DEFINITELY felt threatened by me Locker. You see i dont like what they do to women there. Not one bit. ANd when a friend was involved, i went to bat. Twas a scene only a natl lampoon movie could do justice to.
This is exactly the problem: A person who has a friend who is being treated illegally would call the police.
BUT, a person with a gun feels empowered to become his own lawman, and take the law into his own hands, threatening people, probably WITH his firearm.
In this scenario, Rong was the PERP, assaulting a perfectly legal business owner in the course of his legal business.
And that is what any conservative business owner would tell you.
Rong feels that he can break the law anytime he feels like it, because he is "special".....just like the liberal children he complains about....
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:55pm PT
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Wow.
Talk about agitated.
But when it comes to this thread my friend, you started it.
However, I would be willing to bet that I could shoot a biscuit off the head of a homeless woman at 50'.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
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Neighbor's kid is feeding 8 feral cats.
I need one with a suppressor.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
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A) if i was a perp, then WHY wasnt i arrested? Why werent the cops called?? Why Ken ,, why..? ;-)
If the business was doing something wrong, why weren't they arrested, instead of VIGILANTE RONG going out? Why weren't the cops called? Why Rong? Why?
:)
Where did the homeless woman come in? Rong, you hear a noise in the night, you have NO IDEA who may be out there! It may be your local tweeker, or it may be a homeless person going through your trash looking for food.
When you go out there, they don't know who you are, they may not even be able to see you very well, as most homeless don't have good vision insurance. Raising their hands, holding something that you mistake for a gun in poor light, with you nervous as hell, may result in their execution.
And you will be the perp. And you will say, just like you are saying on this forum: I HAD NO IDEA THAT AN OLD HOMELESS WOMAN COULD HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.
That's always what they say, Rong.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:07pm PT
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So yer saying,.. what? .22 CBs?
Ken, if there is a person going thru my trash in the middle of the night, he is already trespassing, and if he holds something I mistake for a gun and shoot him then we are BOTH victims and the law recognizes it.
Tragic?
Definitely.
But the solution is giving the guy a job, not denying people a constitutional right.
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JonA
Trad climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
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Ron A writes:
I calculated the ballistics and at 130 grains each, traveling at 600 FPS they were certainly approaching lethal parameters. I further suggest a petition to the Pillsbury company to put these ballistic warnings on their product packaging. They are selling EXPLOSIVE containers of lethal DOUGH without so much as a watchout.. There should be limits as to how many cylinders of dough one can buy too. And AGE requirements should be set at 21 to purchase DOUGH cylinders. Perhaps a cool down waiting period should also be explored here.
Spoken like a true gluten free freak.
Ron 'I'm much too important to be bothered to digest gluten' Anderson
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
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I was asking what was quietest. Speed and accuracy aren't the issue.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
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Toker V,
CB Longs fired in a bolt-action rifle are quieter than any air-gun I've ever heard.
All you hear is the hammer dropping, and the bullet hitting whatever it hits.
Range isn't all that great, though, unless you're good at estimating bullet drop.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
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Well they have some new air guns with suppressors that have the advantage of being yard legal.
(and I'm entirely familiar with CBs)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:25pm PT
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ARE THEY QUIETER THAN CBs?
Sorry to shout.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
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Lead as opposed to what?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:33pm PT
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Well, at least there wouldn't be any danger involved if we used a homeless woman who was already dead.
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Ham and Eggs
Mountain climber
Aoraki/Mt Cook Village
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Dec 22, 2013 - 03:32pm PT
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Ron:
Given all the risk assessment(?)
Why didn't you just put your lady quietly under the bed
Watch what was happening from the CCTV set-up within your room
From behind the secure bedroom door you had installed
AS the alternating bright/dark lighting you had installed kicked-in to disorientate potential intruders
AS you waited it out for the cops to arrive
Who you had built an affinity with
By going to great efforts to build a strong relationship
There are some pretty handy-men
Who get to wear there hair long
The more capable of them are more inclined to do the above
In their own homes
Than wave a gun around at shadows
They know they could stop one-guy pretty straight-forward
But to then stay awake every night beyond
Wondering when dead guys mates are going to show-up for some comeuppance
Hard to understand how you would be effectively
Run the whole Cooper's colors thing throughout your everyday
Going from sleepy-head
To 'Situation-ly alert' enough to make the best call
Whatever the prior training
Maybe time to put others plans ahead of the gun
You probably don't need the stress
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Ham and Eggs
Mountain climber
Aoraki/Mt Cook Village
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Dec 22, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
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Hear you Ron
AS you may know
You can do some handy rigging (landlord permitting) for around $500
Curious, did you call the cops before you left the 'safe room', given you clearly heard noises, and had received significant training(?) which allowed you to identify the likelihood of the sound being a gunshot; and had established that there is someone with a motive to come by
And, so why leave the 'safe room then? Was it that the cops were taking too long? Or you felt the threat was immediate and you needed to initiate the contact. Did you change the lighting to dis-orientate the possible intruder and call out a warning?
Perplexed mate. Those trained well, have had the 'deformation professionnelle' beat out of them
They also know to trust the man on the ground, at the time
I trust no offence is taken
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Ham and Eggs
Mountain climber
Aoraki/Mt Cook Village
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Dec 22, 2013 - 04:06pm PT
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Sounds like you are in a tough bind there mate
I'm in no-position to advise on a situation I wasn't at
In a place I've never been
My apologies
And sympathies for the stress that surrounds your circumstances
And likely the circumstances that put the 'ganger' where he 'is'
EDIT: My apology stands. But not sure I'd condone this type of response as a measured approach to noise in the house. As for the guy being someone the "gene pool" wouldn't miss....those are just easy-typed words that suggest ignorance; be nice if you are working-on being a little kinder in real life. There may well have been smarter options that would mitigate someone (or several people) being harmed or worse (but again I wasn't there) and don't know what Ron quantifies as still having "it". Though to quote Twain loosely out of context "If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 22, 2013 - 04:09pm PT
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Ron.
Please.
SHUT THE F&#K UP, and go do something else.
Thank you.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 22, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
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You guys don't get it
You need to hear the story of the sheep, the wolfs, and the sheep guard dog...
YOU are the sheep, quietly going about your mundane lives, milling around in a circle....
But BEWARE, the WOLVES are out there, circling the sheep and waiting to pounce
But do not fear, for I am here,...
I am the Sheep Guard Dog
I PROTECT you, the meek, the unarmed, the untrained, from the bad guys....
Because, as if you haven't figured it out yet, ITS ALL ABOUT ME, ITS ALWAYS ALL ABOUT ME
...how I live, how I react, how I cleverly sense danger, you must be grateful for me.....ME ME ME
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 22, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
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Has anyone brought up what the biscuits may have sounded like from outside, for the neighbors?
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 22, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
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This thread is making me really hungry. I'll never look at biscuits the same either.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 05:33pm PT
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The neighbors are used to it.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Dec 22, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
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I roll out of bed grabbing a keltech 9mm as i fully expect a badguy around the wall from me. Heart pounding like a bongo drum, i spin into position for the take down. Its that sickening decision that you must face the shooter to get a shot. I whirred left, right, and all around and couldnt find the target!
There is no reason to behave like this. "the take down"? really?
What Segal movie is that line from?
This type of drama is for the terminally bored, not a responsible gun owner.
If you live in a place that is a constant threat either move or install security devices as suggested up thread.
The Zimmerman mentality in your description is the main reason many innocent lives are lost to accidental shootings every year.
Your response to the noise you mistook for gunshots could have been calm and calculated rather than panicked and confused.
If you continue to own firearms Ron, I would suggest taking a tactical course and educating yourself on the responsible and proper use of your weapons.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
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Yeah, but pud, not everyone can wire their home with anti intruder sqibs and flashbangs,..
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Dec 22, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
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Another American gun suddenly awakening:
"An Ooltewah man who shot and killed what he thought was a middle-of-the-night prowler -- actually a 72-year-old man with advanced Alzheimer's disease -- Wednesday in Walker County, Ga., hasn't been charged but he might be later, authorities said.
The slain man, Ronald Westbrook, had walked about 3 miles to the shooting scene from his home on Carlock Circle, Sheriff Steve Wilson said at a Wednesday afternoon news conference. When Westbrook was shot, he was clutching letters he had taken from a mailbox on Marbletop Road, where he had lived previously, the sheriff said.
A deputy had stopped and questioned Westbrook at about 2:30 a.m. at the mailbox, Wilson said, but Westbrook said he was getting his mail and lived up the hill.
Westbrook then rang the doorbell and turned the doorknob of a home at 188 Cottage Crest Court at 3:54 a.m., awakening Joe Hendrix, 34, of Ooltewah, and his fiancee. They had rented the home in the new subdivision about two weeks ago, next-door neighbor Brandi Wallace said.
Wilson said Westbrook was lost, confused and possibly exhausted. He had wandered for about four hours in the night with his two dogs, wearing a light jacket and straw hat as the wind-chill temperature hovered around 20 degrees.
"This one house at the end of the cul-de-sac had a porch light on," Wilson said. "I tend to think [Westbrook] was drawn to that light."
Hendrix's fiancee, whose name Wilson declined to give, called 911 and stayed on the phone with an emergency dispatcher who sent two sheriff's office patrol cars en route.
After a nine- to 10-minute wait -- and before deputies arrived -- Hendrix went outside armed with a .40-caliber handgun and saw the elderly man in silhouette behind the house, the sheriff said.
"There was no light except for the front porch light," Wilson said, explaining there are no street lights at The Woodlands, the subdivision off North Marble Top Road west of Chickamauga.
"[Hendrix] gave several what he described as verbal commands," Wilson said. "[Westbrook] continued walking toward him after he told him to stop."
Westbrook was slow to talk, Wilson said, because of his advanced Alzheimer's disease.
Fearing for his safety, Hendrix fired four shots, the sheriff said. One bullet hit Westbrook in the chest, killing him."
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Dec 22, 2013 - 06:11pm PT
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Yeah, but pud, not everyone can wire their home with anti intruder sqibs and flashbangs,..
Anyone can buy black powder ;)
CC cameras are cheap. They would have been sufficient enough in this case to keep a shaky finger off the trigger.
The problem here is that the home owner was in a fearful and unbalanced state.
If he needs to defend his home and loved ones with firearms, the responsible way to do it is to get the training needed to keep your mind calm and clear in such instances.
You don't want the fact that you are wired too tight to be your undoing.
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Harvey Manfrenjensen
Big Wall climber
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Dec 22, 2013 - 06:14pm PT
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Put a pool in the back yard, and your chances of drowning in your back yard go up like 100%.
just saying
Also a donut without a hole...is a danish
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
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Marlow,
I would say that the deputy dropped the ball.
A senile old man wandering at 2:30am under-dressed for the weather and he didn't escort him home?
Hendrix was a victim too.
But I think I would have fired a warning shot when he refused to stop advancing. Remember, he had dogs. You ever been dogbit?
The old guy's alzheimers was probably compounded by hypothermia.
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Ham and Eggs
Mountain climber
Aoraki/Mt Cook Village
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Dec 22, 2013 - 06:16pm PT
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Thank you for sharing Marlow
Firing off a warning shot with a gun (or roll of cookie dough) may be a little premature at this point Toker
In gun tott'n communities, it may just bring more sleepy-headed trigger-happy folk out into the street
I would go back into the house
Close the door
Worst case scenario, I grab my lady (gently) and proceed out an alternative exit, finding a quiet spot to await the police
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Ham and Eggs
Mountain climber
Aoraki/Mt Cook Village
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Dec 22, 2013 - 06:25pm PT
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With respect Ron, training which is worth a dime has evolved
The pros don't react by immediately 'placing themselves' in these situations when they are sleepy-headed
They understand the limitations and effectiveness of 'tactics' advertised in ammo and fish'n magazines
They exhaust the alternatives first
Too many blokes wandering round
They know how to fire a gun
Read sign (apparently)
Alas, minimal knowledge on how their well-intending mind gets muddled-up in squeeky situations
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 22, 2013 - 06:37pm PT
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I wouldn't have gone into the room without backup.
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Ham and Eggs
Mountain climber
Aoraki/Mt Cook Village
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Dec 22, 2013 - 06:42pm PT
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To a quality standard
You would have failed Ron
For showing-up for your 'watch' sleepy-headed
You'd have received the ire of your team
For not making an informed assessment before entering the fray
You would have been departmentally charged
And a note on self-assessment mate
The pros know that one ought not self-audit
And don't go sprucing their self-performance
That's something that dilettantes prone to hypothetical bias do
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 22, 2013 - 06:50pm PT
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I feel your pain Ron. This will curdle your blood. She should be wearing belay glasses. It's a f*#king hand grenade.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Ham and Eggs
Mountain climber
Aoraki/Mt Cook Village
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Dec 22, 2013 - 07:12pm PT
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Ron: Your ^^photo^^ above pretty much sums up your thousand words on self-defense. Nice work
Burning building Ron?
Evacuate
If skilled and adequately resourced
Ask yourself 'Do I have to risk myself or someone else here?'
If the compelling answer is yes, attack the fire
As good rescue teams train their guys "Dead heroes can't save lives. And injured heroes are a nuisance. Life over limb. Life over property"
And I do appreciate the humor of your self-defense story. There's many laughing at your running around the house loaded and cocked, chasing a farting dough-boy.
Truth beknownst. You likely could have just stayed in your room and hidden under the bed and called the cops. Everyone would have been safer. And that story would have been an even funnier one for you to tell us.
As a side note Ron. Good men don't talk about the "sordid detail" of long-ago experiences on the web as some compelling effort towards justifying current practices; for they know that it would be seen as lame. Vets would appreciate you for not feeling the need to do so.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 22, 2013 - 07:31pm PT
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This thread needs more photos. That turd is in the shape of a dead bird. I think there is something unconscious at work there.
edit: McHale! When baked inside the package it would seem they develope a far great PSI translating into FPS..
I know Ron. I'm laughing with you on this one. No deals over on the Climate Change thread though!
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 22, 2013 - 07:50pm PT
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Be nice.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 22, 2013 - 10:35pm PT
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Now if you eat it you can call it road-kill.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 22, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
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I don't shoot stuff I don't eat.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Dec 22, 2013 - 10:49pm PT
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Next time - try Bisquik. Or just make your biscuits from scratch. It's actually extremely easy, and they are going to be of a much better quality. AND keeping the mix in your pantry won't be akin to storing nitroglycerin (well, if we're going to drama queens, we might as well go big!)
Ingredients
2 cups flour
1/2 teaspoon salt
4 teaspoons baking powder
1 tablespoon sugar
1/2 cup vegetable shortening
2/3 cup milk
Preparation
Preheat the oven to 425° F. Grease two 8-inch cake pans. Put the flour, salt, baking powder, and sugar in a bowl. Cut the shortening into the flour with two knives or a pastry blender until the mixture resembles coarse meal. Add the milk all at once and stir just until the dough forms a ball around the fork. Turn the dough onto a lightly floured board and knead 14 times. Pat until 1/2 inch thick. Cut into rounds with a 2-inch cookie cutter. Place touching each other in the cake pans and bake for 15-20 minutes.
From http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Baking-Powder-Biscuits-40048#ixzz2oGaFqaUE
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Yak-Chik
Trad climber
Phoenix
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Dec 23, 2013 - 01:39am PT
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switch to home made flour tortillas for a treat. Its work and makes
a mess but if a stranger to the kitchen like me can make them delicious
anyone can.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Dec 23, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
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This rude awakening today in Colorado wasn't quite so amusing. I get the humor in the original story and thought it was kinda funny, but this sort of incident is just what DMT was talking about. Sad that we didn't have long to wait for an example.
A Colorado teenager apparently sneaking back into her home before dawn Monday was shot and killed after her stepfather mistook her for a burglar.
Colorado Springs police said the unidentified 14-year-old girl was shot just before 6 a.m. as she entered her home in the 4300 block of Ascendant Drive, on the city's northeast side. Officers rushed her to a local hospital, where she died.
Police do not plan to release the identities of the victim or her stepfather, said spokesman Larry Herbert.
The initial 911 call was for a burglary in progress, he said. He did not say how many times the girl was shot or identify the type of weapon used.
Officers found the girl in the basement with a chest wound, KOAA-TV reported, adding police scanner suggests she had climbed through a cellar window.
A neighbor told KRDO-TV she was startled by "three bangs," which she thought was "someone hitting on a car or a garage door or something like that."
Police and the district attorney are investigating. No charges have been filed.
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/2013/12/23/stepfather-kills-teen-accidental-shooting-colorado/4181071/
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Dec 23, 2013 - 11:46pm PT
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rSin, its a fact that there is no better way to increase the odds of one of your family dying by gunfire than owning a gun, but people are really bad at understanding statistics. I think that dad in Colorado understands them in a way that I hope no poster here ever knows. I think it puts the OP's story in a very sober light.
Most gun owners aren't "kooks" and you'll never shift minds or opinions if you can't fully listen to and understand other's stories and positions. You don't have to agree, but you do have to listen and not just discount them.
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Harvey Manfrenjensen
Big Wall climber
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Dec 24, 2013 - 12:27am PT
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leading the charge for social change
one forum post at a time
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Dec 24, 2013 - 02:12am PT
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Just saw this..
Read the first page... Very funny story, Ron,
And the last page, with a recipe for biscuits made with Shortening and no buttermilk.
The horror!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Dec 24, 2013 - 04:00am PT
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Ron and Toker
The Colorado stepfather surely didn't "let the neighbors shop burn down" (to use the words Ron used in connection with the incidence where the 72 years old man with dementia was shot)...
And the killer of the old man was a victim too, as we learn from Toker. The victim of his own actions that must be...
So I guess the stepfather who shot the girl is a victim too...
You guys are bad-ass...
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 24, 2013 - 12:51pm PT
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Dont worry Ron, if you ever feel the need for some backup you can always join the conservative folks over at Reno4x4.com.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Dec 24, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
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Lets just hope no muffintops come-a-knockin' for a late night booty call at Ron's house.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 24, 2013 - 01:17pm PT
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Remember Ron, people are outraged at the intentional deaths, including suicide and murder. They dont differentiate. Accidents? Those are ok! Unless they involve guns, of course.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 24, 2013 - 01:19pm PT
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I gotta say, I am a bit more worried about cellphone drivers than the errant bullet.
Old cellphones would make good ammo for slingshots.
(Am serious about those drivers.....f*#k!)
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apogee
climber
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Dec 24, 2013 - 01:24pm PT
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"...DUMB people, flat out stupid people..."
Oh, the IRONY....
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 24, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
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It seems that cellphone accidents could be compared to gun accidents.......they are caused by cluelessness.......People in charge of a responsibility they can't quite handle.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 24, 2013 - 01:34pm PT
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Havent you read the gunthreads? NOTHING will ever be comparable to guns!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 24, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
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Marlow,
the guy that shot the old man was a victim of an unfortunate situation.
Once I was riding my bike down the street in Toquerville and a dog ran out and bit my leg hard enough to tear through my jeans and make blood run down my leg.
I rode about 50' to get away from the dog, but the dog's owner, an old man, walked towards me and the dog advanced with him.
I told him to stop, but he didn't.
I took out my .22 and fired a shot into the ground in front of me.
The dog stopped advancing, and the owner took hold of his collar.
I told him that the dog had bitten me, and he responded, "Well he's old and nearly deaf."
I said, "Well his teeth aren't that old!", and obviously he wasn't deaf enough to hear a gunshot.
In the end he bought me new jeans, but that was broad daylight on the street.
If somebody with dogs came over my fence at night then he would likely get shot too if he refused to stop advancing.
If it is a senile old man then he shouldn't be permitted to wander.
Like I said that deputy made a serious lapse.
That day in Toquerville I came close to shooting the dog, and it would have been justified.
Although I'm sure there are bleeding hearts here that feel I should have just been carrying biscuits.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 24, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
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That day in Toquerville I came close to shooting the dog, and it would have been justified.
Although I'm sure there are bleeding hearts here that feel I should have just been carrying biscuits.
no bleeding heart here
that dog had it coming, you had every right to kill it for one false move threatening your life.........
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 24, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
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Is there a gunfire app for phones yet? You know, just the sound? I wonder how those wrist phones are working out.....boom....crash!!!!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 24, 2013 - 02:05pm PT
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How about the sound of a riot gun racking the slide?
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 24, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
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I duno, do you count that shooting where the climbers girlfriend wrote in?
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Dec 24, 2013 - 03:11pm PT
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Ron.... why didn't you blast the biscuits?????
Pretty good targets.
I find it fascinating that just the mere mention of a gun will bring out the haters in droves....
And I laugh at the fact that the haters REALLY DO HATE YOU.... even though
most have never hung out with you.
I guess its the IDEAS you hold and the LIFE you live that gets them seeing RED, RED HATE... they want to kill you, really do, and anyone like you.
Look how big this thread has grown in just a few short days.
You are #1 on the TACO
Happy Christmas, Ron, keep your powder dry.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 24, 2013 - 03:15pm PT
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I dont hate you at all Ron. Just havin fun between jobs at work, keepin ya on yer toes. You,d be proud, last night at dusk i led a realy short pitch with nearly all nuts. I even had my little taurus, but nary a biscuit in site.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 24, 2013 - 03:16pm PT
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Ron....
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 24, 2013 - 03:16pm PT
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Shut....
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 24, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
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The...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 24, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
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F*#K...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 24, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
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UPPPPPPP!!!!!!116699
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 24, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
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Merry Christmas, you feckin' redneck moron.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 24, 2013 - 03:26pm PT
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oh yeah,
Merry Christmas!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 24, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 24, 2013 - 04:39pm PT
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and here is a picture of Ducky boys before they decided to get famous growing beards
why they look like a fairly clean shaven all American Family !
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 24, 2013 - 04:40pm PT
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 24, 2013 - 04:41pm PT
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Puka shells RAWK!!!!!11111
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 24, 2013 - 04:49pm PT
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 24, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
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Is that a roll of biscuits in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Dec 24, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
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There's a disease that is always frightening and sometimes fatal. Fortunately the disease is rare.
There is a vaccination that can fight off the disease if you are exposed.
But the vaccination is 10 to 20 more likely to kill you than the disease itself.
Who wants to sign up for the vaccination?
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Dec 24, 2013 - 09:28pm PT
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Times change, Ron. Only idots and Dodo birds don't change and adapt. What was true in 1941 doesn't necessarily apply to 2013.
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perswig
climber
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Dec 26, 2013 - 09:58pm PT
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Contact to the front! Requesting weapons-free.
Please advise.
Dale
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