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10b4me
Ice climber
Bishop/Flagstaff
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 30, 2013 - 12:49pm PT
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Adios
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 30, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
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Seriously?
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10b4me
Ice climber
Bishop/Flagstaff
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
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Yeah, profile has been deleted
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 30, 2013 - 01:01pm PT
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LOL
Joe you stupid fukup you could have just done it the easy way.
Instead you had to dig in where you couldn't win.
Your 1st amendment argument was never a factor when you take credit for someone Else's work.
Gawdamn you're stupid sometimes .....
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Nov 30, 2013 - 01:01pm PT
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well. that was unnecessarily ugly.
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 30, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
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That's too bad. But one of the clear bright line rules is that you can't post photos of people's beavers. You just can't do that.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 30, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
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well. that was unnecessarily ugly.
It reminded me of someone purposely waving a loaded gun around, knowing perfectly well that the police will eventually be forced to shoot him.
Curt
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Nov 30, 2013 - 01:14pm PT
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It reminded me someone purposely waving a loaded gun around, knowing perfectly well that the police will eventually be forced to shoot him.
+1. He wanted to go, and he got his wish. Strange.
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Nov 30, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
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Ah well, thanks for all the beautiful views . . .
"Cybercide" (lol)
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Chewybacca
Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
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Nov 30, 2013 - 01:43pm PT
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I guess he learned that his 1st amendment rights don't apply to privately owned internet forums.
I don't support banning based on censorship issues. But when he refused to honor the polite request by the photog to remove the image JH stepped over a line. I'm glad he got hit with the ban hammer.
An apology to Dean would probably go a long way in convincing the admin to let him back. I wonder if his ego will allow him to make amends.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 30, 2013 - 01:55pm PT
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Yeah, that is too bad.
No doubt, though, that it was related to that last thread & pic...and had much less to do with his political tone & persistence.
Cue the rantings of 'Censorship! Censorship!'....10...9...8..7...
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Nov 30, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
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Joe's not the only one who can flaunt the rules....
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Nov 30, 2013 - 02:25pm PT
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sorry jerk-jo didn't make it cya!
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Nov 30, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
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I don't think hedge was wrong, i think everyone else was wrong. He's the last one that could ever be wrong. Just ask him & he'll tell you. He is not wrong. We were wrong, he is right. Hedge is always right no matter what.
I'm going to miss all his kind words to others & climbing contributions.
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apogee
climber
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Nov 30, 2013 - 03:20pm PT
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"Without Joe on the Political thread...
it will probably die..."
Not a chance.
Neither person will appreciate this comparision, but hedge was the left equivalent of fattrad.
fattrad got the axe, and the polititard rantings went on just fine...as will that thread post-hedge.
And I wouldn't be a bit surprised if hedge returned at some point.
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10b4me
Ice climber
Bishop/Flagstaff
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
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Cue the rantings of 'Censorship! Censorship!'....10...9...8..7...
apogee, this is CMacs' site. He can do whatever he wants.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 30, 2013 - 04:25pm PT
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"apogee, this is CMacs' site. He can do whatever he wants."
Yer preaching to the choir, 10b.
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weezy
climber
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Nov 30, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
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wait, i'm confused. is there a stonenude calendar of beavers now? the male stonenude calendar didn't go over so well from what i hear so i'm surprised that dean is trying to get into the wildlife demographic. i can possibly see a bonobo stonenude calendar doing alright sales-wise but seems like beavers are not really into this sort of thing. i've tried sharing porn with beavers but they just email you .zip files of hundreds of pics of dams. weird, but whatever you're into i guess.
i'll just see myself out now.
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Roughster
Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
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Nov 30, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
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For real? That's too bad honestly. While he was a little over the top some times, I loved the passion and appreciated his perspective. Sometime you need to know the far sides of the political spectrum to know where you stand.
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raymond phule
climber
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Nov 30, 2013 - 04:41pm PT
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He DID take credit for that photo. . . go to his profile and look:
There are thousands of photos and figures on this site with incorrect credits. He should have deleted the photo when asked to do it but copyright is very often broken on this site.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Nov 30, 2013 - 05:05pm PT
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sempervirens
climber
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Nov 30, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
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yer up Ron.
(... guess I got nothin' better to do than this... I was sposta go to work today)
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 30, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
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and fair use does not even require that you attribute the photo to the copyright holder.
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bjj
climber
beyond the sun
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Nov 30, 2013 - 05:33pm PT
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sorry but i dont think little girls the age of my grand niece are "sexual" in any way
Uhm... what?
Obviously that girl is of legal age, else she wouldn't be published nude like that. Respectfully, Ron... I can't imagine any red blooded male of any age who would declare her "not sexy" just because she has a big age differential to that of the observer.
If you were still 20 years old, would you feel differently? If you had no close female relatives of roughly the same age, would you feel differently?
I'm 45 and my girlfriend is in her mid 20's. Does that make me a pervert?
The USA pretty much stands alone with this weird shaming of men over any age difference in excess of 10 years.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Nov 30, 2013 - 05:33pm PT
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Hey there say Joe. I missed all the action and don't know what occurred . Might be good for you to take a breather, go take walk outside and reacquaint yourself with fresh air again - you seemed to be setting records posting more than everyone else combined. It wouldn't have been an issue had 1 out of 1000 been a climbing shot:-} Don't let it get under you skin is all I'm sayin'.
Best to you
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Nov 30, 2013 - 05:44pm PT
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I go cragging a few days and miss the fireworks!
What a drama queen
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 30, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
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Its interesting how people want to focus on the picture copyright issue when it was clearly a case of major dickhead not copyright.
Additionally, Joe's interpretation of "fair use" may or may not be correct. Even in his earlier citation you'll find recurring terms such as these:
“quotation of excerpts..."
"quotation of short passages..."
"summary of an address or article, with brief quotations..."
"reproduction by a teacher or student of a small part of a work..."
When it comes to photographs, things are less clear--but even there, copying someone else's entire work is generally not covered by fair use.
Curt
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Nov 30, 2013 - 06:32pm PT
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here's another great shot by Joe
this one's pretty good too...
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 30, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
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He's already back as Jay Gee.
And doesn't even seem to be hiding the fact.
Ah, the old internet Whac-A-Mole game :-)
Curt
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Anyone have a link to whatever you're all talking about?
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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... fattrad got the axe, and the polititard rantings went on just fine. fattrad posted excellent on topic stuff too (that now we don't get). All you f*#king admin PMing tattletales is who should be banned for your cowardice.
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MisterE
climber
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Sorry, BIOTCH. I only reported it after much suggestion about the inappropriateness of the presentation of the thread.
The resulting decision was a surprise to me, as well. I just thought the thread should be deleted.
Don't kill the messenger.
Peace, Erik
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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I know, Jim B, that's why I asked!
And actually it was more, sitting out bad weather and hiking than climbing.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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I clicked on that thread when it was only 2 pages and instantly thought, there goes Joe. self destruct. suicide by cop. the whole snitch routine is pretty darn weak though and should only be used for spam or by someone who is being seriously attacked. Ron is a big boy and could have done the reporting if he felt genuinly threatened or bullyed.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Joe wins...he no longer has to respond to the "special kids" on ST.
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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Kevin, on the other hand, I miss the days when women used to be regular contributors to ST.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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the photo hit a bit too close to home for some folks...joe hit too close to home for others...
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WBraun
climber
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Admins
Please reactivate Joe.
All ya really had to do was delete his thread not ban him.
Whoever squealed to the admins to have Joe banned was lame.
I'm getting tired of all this banning sh!t here over petty small stupid sh!t.
When there's over excessive jackassing going on there should be warnings instead of immediate permanent death.
Please reinstate the jackass Hedge.
Society is not just plain black and white .......
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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There is a thin line between provocateur and as#@&%e. That line has been crossed 2000 times by Joe. That's how he rolls. Later baiter.
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WBraun
climber
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Give him a week in Purgatory?
Then he learn lesson and reinstate?
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Do Hedge float in water?
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Ducks float in water.
That said: The exclusion of the Hedge tool was very well deserved, as was the earlier exclusion of the Leb tool and the Fatrad tool...
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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often in real life it is the right thing. Most often on these forums it is not the right thing. anyone who feels genuinly threatened has the power to stand up for themselfs with the click of a mouse. 3rd party meddleing is simply do gooder BS. Ron was being attacked and could have complained to admin if he felt he needed to. Someone else doing it is weird sh#t.
Ok Ron beat me to the post. Ron reporting him is fine. random post police is BS INMOP
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"I never reported hedge for anything UNTIL he spat in the eye of Bullwinkle and his art work."
You are not in a great place to use this as a rationale, Ron.
Far and away, you were the prime example of where Joe levelled his vitriole. For the most part, you handled it well (to your credit), but it's pretty hard to not see the supposed copyright violation issue you've cited as not much more than a good opportunity for you to have a foe taken down.
This is not to validate Joe's tactics by any means. It takes two people to create the kind of dumbass back & forth that went on between you two.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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It's impossible to count the number of times that TGT or Donald Thompson has ripped some kind of material from another website. How many times have you reported them?
What's the difference between that & a naked woman? (Besides the fact that you think that being attracted to 20 y/o's is a little creepy?)
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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That's a really lame accusation, Ron.
And even if true, it doesn't make your own choice to 'report' Joe any less of your own choice.
Being a regular at ST...esp. in the polititard arenas...means having something of thick skin, and having integrity for your own actions & words. It's not your responsibility to protect the copyrights of anyone (except your own), least of all when doing so is a means to take down an adversary.
That's not 'karma' in any sense of the word.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Ron, I don't ever say this with any real intent, but f*#k you.
What you did was chickenshit & transparent. Take some responsibility for it ( and get some goddam insurance while you're at it).
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WBraun
climber
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Just STFU for a change apogee.
You're a whiny little bitch.
Why you people such whiny little bitches all the time?
Oh Ron this and Oh Ron that.
Ron gave his reasons get over it.
Reinstate Hedge fuk it!
Is this place some kind of insane asylum?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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But one of the clear bright line rules is that you can't post photos of people's beavers. You just can't do that.
What? People post pics of me all the time w/o my permission. Where's the justice?
I'm a victim, man....
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nice try, Ron, but this ain't about me.
It's about you and your whiney little bitching so you could undercut an adversary. On this playground, that's what it takes to get your ass kicked.
'karma' my ass.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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"Is this place some kind of insane asylum"
haha...WBraun... you're about to make "quite-more-insane" happen... you like it, don't you?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Speaking of thick skins...'morning, blue.
A rhetorical question for you...you have been a target of vitriole waaaaaay more than Rong...how many times have you 'reported' someone?
Edit: "Suppose something is going wrong and people see it and DON'T speak out???...
Sometimes people NEED to step in..."
How about this idea...first of all, you go to that person directly...and if that doesn't work, then you go 'over their heads'.....
It's called taking personal responsibility...supposedly a core value of any true conservative...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Locker....that's a good point. And it's not my intent, btw.
I'm out.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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STers get morally offended by an artsy nude photo...
.. sad day
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Nope, CMac announced the policy months ago due to advertiser complaints.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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So Sters now have the interests of the advertisers in mind over having fun?
Well, that is special.
RC.com is looking exciting these days.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Lots o' drama queens in Tacoland.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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ekat,
I get it that Joe seemingly was 'asking for it' by not pulling the photo and perhaps the thread should have been pulled, but it is weak-sauce to ban him.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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ok so if I post up something deemed 'sh#t-assed' and refuse to take it down, I get banz too? lame.
I don't like 90% of Rong's posts, but I don't want him banned.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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You are putting a moral judgement on Joe's inaction.
Over-moderation ruins sites. RC.com is a noob site now, and MP.com got lamer once it started getting heavily moderated. Sad to see St going the same way.
I wouldn't be sad to be banned if this is the way things are here now.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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yeah, i get it Locker,
Just expected less butt-hurtedness over one JHedge and a previously published nude photo from the generation that brought us trad climbing and 30' runouts.
ya know, 'sac-up' cowboy and all that bullocks.
edit to add: now that ^^^^^ is WAAAAY more offensive to me that an art photo. if this were my site, any posting of twerking Miley turkey-ass would lead to immediate banzings!
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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ahhh, like the Hunger Games or the Governor on the Walking Dead. Got it.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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waiting patiently for cosmic .gif when Cmac & Ron A bust in the kitchen door & boot hedge outta the chair.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Lastly once again I am pleasantly surprised by the Wisdom of Werner.
Hey, me too. Werner does have a heart. I'm surprised he's standing up for just another stupid American, though.
Curt
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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It's true we don't know the exact reason he was banned. the possibility also exists that there was back and forth between joe and mods via pm where he dug his heels in even further.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Premiums are still up, site is still down, and Obummer is the worst POTUS in history. Yeah cause it's much worse to have an temporarily ineffective website than to kill tens of thousands needlessly while driving our country into it's darkest period ever both financially and in the eyes of the rest of the world.
Too bad there weren't any 'libs' around to ban your parents from having sex.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Russ wrote: Premiums are still up, site is still down, and Obummer is the worst POTUS in history.
Bullshit on three opinions.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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I for one am going to miss Unhinged.
He was such an excellent illustrative example of the "progressive" collectivist psyche.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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What exactly are you trying to say gumby ? I am saying Bush was far and away the worst president we have ever had. And then i gave some reasons. I have no idea who Dr. F is.
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sempervirens
climber
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Thread drift to politardism - appropriate, eh.
Obummer haters, the major mistake you make is in believing he's a liberal. Damn, how naive are you? Yous stupid Americans. You're just as dumb as the obama drones. Our gov. controllers don't give a shyt about libs and cons; that's just to keep you dumb asses occupied.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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This is the part I'm most interested in. Care to elaborate? It was a little quip in response to your claim that libs are always the ones calling for banning, which simply isn't true. Don't take it to mean I wish you were dead.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Russ wrote: Yippeee! The flaming libs are getting all fired up!
Don't flatter yourself Russ. You are one of the weakest trolls on this site.
:-)
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Thread drift...
Nawmean
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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jghedge:
I don't agree with most of what you have written, but you are always well informed and you are excellent in challenging my perceptions (you haven't convinced me yet).
But I always think that if I am full of s#*t, I'd hate to be the last to know.
Best to you and hope to see you back on taco soon.
Larry
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Welcome to the Way Homo Joe appreciation thread.
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rmuir
Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Fact is, jdhedge, you don't own the god-damned route!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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There were multiple times when Hedge would threaten to have someone banned, and after that person was banned, Hedge would crow about it, taking credit. He seemed to choose his targets based upon political differences.
It's funny as hell now that Hedge is the one who finds himself on the receiving end of the big shithammer.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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You and I are Liberals, Mr. Walling.
Hedge is a Statist.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Nobody enjoys dancing on graves more than an internet Lib and why are you here in this thread?
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Yep time to go. It's been fun. Adios fellow taconians.
Keep an eye out for me on apetube.com
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krahmes
Social climber
Stumptown
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Like so many before him jhedge posting on OT threads would have been twice as interesting if he would have posted half as much.
My take on jhedge is that he has more vitriol and ire, than say a fattrad; is less cogent than RoxJox; and their equal in the OCD department. Jhedge’s true colors shone through, when after Bullwinkle asked him not to use his artwork in a thread which implicitly labeled the model a “pussy”; he hid behind some kind of idiotic and convoluted argument (like so much of his reasoning) invoking the 1st amendment instead of seeing that honoring the request (deleting the thread) is ethical behavior and not to mention in compliance with the DMCA
I will say, I take schadenfreude in the howls of indignation rising from the thinning salt and pepper haired cracker barrel wing of the ObamaNation that passes as political thought on ST – you guys are the new dittoheads – load up on your low pressers, Zoloft, Ambien and give yourself a prostate exam and keep telling yourself you got it all figured out.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nobody enjoys dancing on graves more than an internet Lib
Every stilled Republican voice improves the world's signal to noise ratio.
Curt
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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Wrong again Mr. GED boy. It's not your forum.
IF you're too stupid to learn that lesson ... then that's on you....
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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Uh oh!!!
Time to tell the teacher!!
The bad kid has snuck back into the classroom....
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Whac-A-Mole !!
Curt
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Quick, Ron....he's back!
Tell the teechur!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Yeah cause it's much worse to have an temporarily ineffective website than to kill tens of thousands needlessly while driving our country into it's darkest period ever both financially and in the eyes of the rest of the world.
What fools like you have to have pounded into your skulls, is that your new 'dream-system' is just that, a dream, an unworkable Utopian fantasy. You claim to be saving millions, but you don't realize you're condemning EVERYBODY to mediocrity. You will be killing more than you claim to be 'saving'.
Oh, and in case you haven't realized it yet, the bullsh#t-artist in chief is yanking your chain. You think he really believes in all this sh#t? Is he going to enroll?
That's what I thought...
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sempervirens
climber
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Blue,
No Obama won't enroll himself in ACA. And I agree that he is insincere in his stated political ideology.
The republicans attitude toward health care, and most of the opinions you give, are equally ridiculous. They made no effort to improve health care prior to Obama. They opposed the ACA at the same time they claimed it was unavailable to the public. The conservatives claimed it was socialist, it would fail, be too expensive, there would be death squads, it was unconstitutional. But they also claimed they couldn't read it because the socialist president wouldn't release it. About as ridiculous as Nancy Pelosi's comment, wouldn't you say?
The Obama drones are gullible. The conservatives are motivated by spite and forget to make any steps toward any improvements because it might benefit people they don't like. That's not an admirable position, nor patriotic, is it?
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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The republicans attitude toward health care, and most of the opinions you give, are equally ridiculous. They made no effort to improve health care prior to Obama. They opposed the ACA at the same time they claimed it was unavailable to the public. The conservatives claimed it was socialist, it would fail, be too expensive, there would be death squads, it was unconstitutional...
You might have added that this was after they invented this form of healthcare system (Heritage Foundation) and also first implemented it (Massachusetts).
Curt
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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There is a cure, but can it actually pass muster?
Healthcare across State lines, tort-reform, and giving scabs free health while all of us pass for them.
Not too far from the old system, brah!
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jstan
climber
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I spent quite a bit of time on a bagpiping site. On that site the people were studiously courteous with each other, opinions were expressed as opinions and reasons for that opinion given; and posters never posted repeatedly in an attempt to dominate a thread. There we had people who had made world level contributions, but that was never a factor in the discussions.
It was just plain great. Great information nearly every time.
On ST we occasionally get a great thread. ST's overall ambience, however, leaves a lot to be desired.
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WBraun
climber
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ST's overall ambiance, however, leaves a lot to be desired.
That's because this site is inhabited mostly by monkeys from the stupid soup that they claim all the chemicals came from by chance and made life.
The intelligent class do not come from this stupid soup of chance chemicals.
The intelligent class descend from intelligence itself .......
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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I think John may be suggesting that we all should post in kilts from now on, as a matter of decorum.
Curt
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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What fools like you have to have pounded into your skulls, is that your new 'dream-system' is just that, a dream, an unworkable Utopian fantasy. You claim to be saving millions, but you don't realize you're condemning EVERYBODY to mediocrity. You will be killing more than you claim to be 'saving'. This isn't the dream system. The dream system is single payer. This is what we ended up with after a year of fighting and too many compromises.
You think he really believes in all this sh#t? Is he going to enroll? I do believe he believes it, and yes, I think he will have insurance that meets the requirements set forth by the ACA.
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snyd
Sport climber
Lexington, KY
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When you ban a member of the community you devalue the forum.
Joe's a dick. All of us who know him in real life know that.
Get over yourselves...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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I do believe he believes it, and yes, I think he will have insurance that meets the requirements set forth by the ACA.
Sorry, but you're an absolute fool! Why would he?
People like you will ruin this great country.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Sorry, but you're an absolute fool! Why would he?
People like you will ruin this great country. So you're saying his insurance does not meet the standards set forth by the ACA?
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Bah! I never agreed with a thing the guy said but I did admire his passion and borderline psychotic tendencies....
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Mimi
climber
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snyd, from what has been posted, Joe intended to leave the ST. Doesn't matter what we want or think except for lobbying his return.
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Mimi
climber
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apogee, you shut your whore mouth!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Such language....
People get whacked for that kinda talk, Mimi...
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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When you ban a member of the community you devalue the forum.
Joe's a dick. All of us who know him in real life know that.
Get over yourselves...
Ha, well said Chris.
Joe is an emotional gal.... especially when it concerns political BS.
But we've all done a ton of climbing together and he was always a good friend and climbing partner. Those are the times I value the most. For that, even though I sometimes wonder why, I still consider him a friend.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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The intelligent class do not come from this stupid soup of chance chemicals.
WOW!
How'd we go from Joeblo to intelligent design theories from The Braunizapha?
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Mimi
climber
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Strange brew, Ron. I'm in....
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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Hanky,
Tears to my eyes son.
Really....
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Hedgy was on a path of ST destruction. Only a matter of time and........BOOOOOM, self destruction.
Dude was the definition of a wingnut.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Hey Just BlowMe, Joe would undoubtedly call you out as a ball cupper.
Curt
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Hey, Rong...what happened to your 'Picture of the Year' thread?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Hedge is obviously abusing the same substance tonight as he was at this time last night.
You're on my prayer list, Hedge. Please do what you have to do to get the help you need to get well again. I'm rooting for you.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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'Dance of joy'? Rong again...
apogee
climber
Aug 10, 2010 - 11:13am PT
I had to dig a little bit, but I knew there would be a fattrad appreciation thread in here somewhere. So, bump.
Though our ideologic differences are often stark, fattrad is one of the very few Repubs who usually remains quite respectful in how he presents his position. (He does a better job than I do, that's ferdamshur.) I oftentimes don't agree with his view of the world, but because he can communicate it in a rational way, I'm always open to hearing it. I have great respect for that, fattrad- you are an important, valuable part of this whackjob ST community. Thanks for being here.
Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Aug 10, 2010 - 11:15am PT
Dry humor is an art Fats is an atist!
The best part of this is the fact your post followed mine by two minutes!
fattrad was a class act compared to your unending blather, Rong.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Now just blow me has been deactivated. They're dropping like flies around here. Strange. He was a new user, I was looking forward to his first TR.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"I had to delete it due to a posting of yet another of bullwinkles photos of a nude woman by the user known as BIOTCH. "
Uh-huh. Yeah, sure.
Ron Anderson
Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Dec 1, 2013 - 10:20pm PT
Way to go you two.. Guess ill burn this thread and wont ever bother to post ON TOPIC again..
Ron, you started that thread simply as a distraction away from the slimy, spineless sh1t you pulled to take down an adversary. A thread like that, following your role in hedge's chop, was going to be squarely in the sights of anyone you've alienated over the years...and you know this damn well.
The thread was a nice idea...and there were some nice shots up to the point you nuked it...but such a thread would be far better started by someone who posts 90% climbing/10% OT, as opposed to yourself.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Now just blow me has been deactivated. They're dropping like flies around here. Strange. He was a new user, I was looking forward to his first TR.
I don't think hedge was wrong, i think everyone else was wrong. He's the last one that could ever be wrong. Just ask him & he'll tell you. He is not wrong. We were wrong, he is right. Hedge is always right no matter what.
I'm going to miss all his kind words to others & climbing contributions.
RyanD is posting some quality here.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Dec 1, 2013 - 09:12am PT
I never reported hedge for anything UNTIL he spat in the eye of Bullwinkle and his art work.
Ron Anderson
Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Dec 1, 2013 - 09:37am PT
As always there is a sub tribe. A few of those folks reported that thread as well. All for very good reason. But ill gladly take the credit.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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jghedge was a distraction that needed to be reeled in. While I post a bunch of political bullshit here, I also post sh#t that's climbing-related.
He never did, not that I can recall.
As for the Ron-haters? Whatever, you guys just dislike his opinions and can't tolerate views that are counter to yours. Haters gonna hate....
gratuitous unrelated pic? okay, here;
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Coming from a whiney little HYPOCRITE isnt going to phase me apogee.. YOU did the dance of joy over Fatty and LEBs banning for over a year.
Youve been banned hedge, take it like a man and not come sniveling back hiding in yur fake avatar. YOU lost... Dem has FAILED! BAAAAAAHhAhahahahahjaaaaaaaaa!
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Say it ain't so, Joe! One of my favorite posters reduced to using new pseudonyms. One of the wonderful things about a few days off is the ability to be in the mountains rather than merely read about them. I take a few days off from ST and it seems all hell broke loose.
I only know Joe from the internet, but considering the entire package of what I read, I greatly appreciate his presence here. So he has faults. Find me someone here who doesn't.
If he violated ST's terms of use, I guess there's little reason to complain, but it doesn't mean I won't miss his comments.
And of course this place is an insane asylum, but it's an asylum of intelligent nutcases. We are, after all, climbers.
John
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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Fluffer,
That is some funny sh#t....really
LMAO
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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Because the level of butt-hurt shown by 'brave, old school trads' on this site is truly entertaining
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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And of course this place is an insane asylum, but it's an asylum of intelligent nutcases. We are, after all, climbers.
John
Interesting point that most people couldn't grasp.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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This thread is gold.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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While I post a bunch of political bullshit here, I also post sh#t that's climbing-related.
He never did, not that I can recall.
Actually, Steve, he posted quite a bit on the "First Ascent Principle" thread. Of course, as usual, he was wrong, but well-reasoned.
;-)
John
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Maybe so, John, I just never saw it.
I do understand also that some would perceive me to be as irrational as I claim he was.
A man has to understand his limitations, in the words of an awesome actor. I know where I stand, and I understand why people collide with me.
I just don't post pics of naked chix that some other Tacohead thought was 'art'. No offense to Bullwinkle.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Really love you all ...and I do mean everyone ...it's really been great . The folks I disagree with the most I still consider my friends and look forward to climbing with and spending time with many of you still ..
I consider folks like Russ Walling to be solid gold and I don't give a damn about politics as it relates to what kind of human being someone is ... Bunch of f*#king bullshit when it comes down to it.
I really like Ron, Jhedge, Fatrad and of course Crowley no matter what has been said online.
That said my time here is over .
I find most of the comments I want to make here are negative, for some reason, which is the exact opposite of who I am in every other area of my life.
Facebook for me now contains many old and new friends, family and climbers and the shared interests and conversations are stimulating, polite and engaging.
And if it does get rude I just block the person..
I'm forever grateful to ST for allowing me to get to know the greater climbing world and to learn so much.
See ya all a bunch more at the crag or on Facebook ..
Riley
FACEBOOK!!!
We shall see....
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Joe
Social climber
Santa Cruz
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is there more than one?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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only one or two gilligans
many Joes
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