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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 7, 2013 - 01:36am PT
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Earlier today I posted about a craigs list deal that was too hard to believe it wasn't hot gear. From everything I can figure it was just one of the more ridiculously good deals I've seen.
the powder bag comment was funny and the 100m rope description curious. It looks like the guy did two or three top ropes on all the gear and called it quits. judging from the fact that only one of the draws shows any wear I'm scared to think how this was rigged.
mad rock belay device, mad rock harness, mad rock chalk bag (powder bag ;), petzl elios helmet (fits, needed one, score), scarpa veloce size 45.5 in almost perfect shape.
and then there's the rope without tags:
It looks like it's a 9.8mm 60m. I checked every inch and there is no wear, no fuzz. I have every reason to think it's as described - three or for easy climbs and no falls. anyone recognize it?
Climbing rope (i think it's 100 meters? don't remember, but it's long and no one has had a fall on it yet. Only used it 3 times for very beginnerish climbs)
So... what would Krshna do with this rope?
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Are you kidding me?
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Edelweiss
Kinda looks like it was made from recycled rubber chickens.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2013 - 10:03am PT
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sure about that, jefe?
And yes... i'm certain it's made from rubber chickens. huge score.
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pc
climber
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You're gonna.....
Cry... if you don't get it.
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splitter
Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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^ LOL!!!
dunno, but i found a deal like that, bitd. from this d00d, from hemit. bought a pracatically new rack, rope etc. said he used it a few times and decided to go back to drag racing rails: red flag #1). when i asked why? he says, "because its a much safer sport.": red flag # 2). all in all i thought it was an over all good deal (don't recall the price). when i got home and hand checked the entire length of the rope and found a stiff section about 5 feet long around 20 ft or so from one end: red flag # 3) i give him a call and he then says, "oh yeah, i took a 40' whipper on the left ski track." (tahquitz) which is a steep, exposed route (beaucoup airtime).
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2013 - 11:29am PT
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if DMT would use it than I shale use it.
The story seems to add up. Except the part about selling $400 worth of gear for $40.
anyone interested in a pair of scarpa veloce size 45.5?
The weird part about the whole exchange was his mom was hitting on me.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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The hell with yer mistery rope. I just found a dude selling a sweet Rolex for $150. I'm gonna go see it this aft in Compton.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2013 - 11:42am PT
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you do that... i'm going back to talk to his mom. maybe she knows what kinda rope it is....
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Book him, Dano!!!!!
hee hee hee. . .
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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BTW, was the dude's name Jeremy?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2013 - 11:47am PT
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Oddly... it was.
holy shit!
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splitter
Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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the weird part of the whole exchange was his mom was hitting on me.
BTW, was the dude's name Jeremy?
Oddly... it was. LOL
edit: Jeremy's mom sounds like my kinda gal. Whatever happened to Jeremy, haven't noticed any posts in a while?
edit: bottom line: BASIC SURVIVAL INSTINCTS tell ya if ya don't know the complete history of the rope, don't use it, let alone buy it. no matter how new or how good of a deal it is. ok for hauline, top rope use. but is it worth the risk, otherwise. i did buy one similar rope for 20 bucks at an A-16 swap meet. but immediately cut it in half and used one for a woodson top rope. the other half i sold to a buddy for 20 bucks (got my money back) and he used it for the same purpose. ya can top just about all the woodson problems with an 80' cord (and a few 10-20 ft runners, etc).
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin OC
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IMHO getting a deal on used pro (this include ropes) is not worth the risk...even if it was free.
That goes for partners too. I was climbing with a guy that told me his whole kit was put together with used gear from internet. I stopped climbing with him.
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Rankin
Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
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That is indeed an Edelweiss Flash, 10mm. I have that rope. It's a bargain basement rope: heavy, not supple. I bought mine as a 70m for about a hundred bucks, and cut it in half to use as a gym rope. Everyone in the gym hates belaying with it.
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le_bruce
climber
Oakland, CA
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I'll buy used hardware but never would I consider it worth it to trust used soft goods. I wouldn't trust a sling or a draw, which in most cases will be one part of a system full of redundancy. I've bought used cams but always reslung 'em.
A used rope, though? I can't understand why that would even be tempting. You're worth more than whatever $ you save on using a rope sold to you by some rando out there...
It also strikes me as shady whenever I see someone selling a used rope online. I guess it's a bias I've got. The rope is sacrosanct, man! Don't roll dice with ropes!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2013 - 02:25pm PT
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I didn't buy the gear because of the rope. the shoes alone were worth the $40.
truth though... this kid just bought the cheapest gear he could find, went top roping three times - beginnerish climbs, is moving to florida and wanted to sell the gear. he had it stored in his room.
I'm waiting for werner to show up and spray about how back in the day they'd just toss all their ropes in a pile and when they needed one just grab whatever was there. or something like that.
the helmet - looks brand new. not a scratch. Suspect or good?
two of these draws... brand new. not a scratch or any wear from a rope on them. suspect or new? (they are crappy BDs)
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splitter
Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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nature,
you got the deal of a lifetime, imho! just singled out the rope for apparent reasons. i, or anyone for that matter, would have bought the stuff with or without the rope. i'm sure that you are aware of the risks involved involving used ropes. anything that i posted was inconsideration of any noobs who might be lurking. including the n00b cougar pickup wannabe vid (we all know yo da' man, bro).
edit: "back in the day" - the difference with that is: you can trust all yer friends, regarding the history of the rope. i'm pretty sure that they didn't use any of those ropes to tow their cars to Merced, or out of some ditch, etc! I'd trust their judgement as to when a rope needed to be retired. Sure, we all have heard some of those Bird stories about the sketchy looking ropes. But pretty sure he didn't tie one end to a tree, and use the other end to lift some truck out of some sink hole and then, with fifty feet of slack, have it drop back into the hole, or whatever. extreme & highly unlikely scenario, no doubt. but, who knows what someone (especially a n00b who quit climbing after one outing) used it for? ...just sayin.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2013 - 03:37pm PT
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I know what you're saying. and yes you must include the disclaimer for n00bs and locker.
Here's the thing. I trust the dudes story thus trust the history of this gear. As noted above it's a heavy stiff rope. I'm sure it's fine for leading but at best I'll use it for top roping. I've got a good lead rope but would love to use it less for top roping. Or maybe It'll just get fixed somewhere (had a dude by three old ropes he was using for fixing for guiding)
here's another craigs list score:
I could go on....
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Kinda looks like an Imlay fire canyon rope. If so...it'd be very static. TR only!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2013 - 04:42pm PT
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^^^^---- I think you might be right. it seems heavy and stiff and doesn't seem like it's a 10mm.
and that makes a ton more sense. with three quick draws the guy obviously wasn't into leading. it also explains why it doesn't have an tags at either end.
http://www.imlaycanyongear.com/ropes.php
thanks for that piece of info Brian. TR only. or haul line. perfect.
Anyone ever seen the movie Take it to the Limit? Best climbing move Evar!
"Screw this, let's go toproping!"
Edit: alright... here's a question i should know the answer too... when it's stated a rope is 9.8mm what is being measured? I just put my 9.8 up against a ruler and it's looking more like 11mm. This cord in question looks more like 10mm. granted i'm eyeballing but I ain't blind and it ain't that hard to see.
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aguacaliente
climber
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If you wanted to know whether the rope is static or dynamic you might be able to measure the percent elongation under body weight load.
Seems unlikely a bargain hunting guy would have a relatively pricey static canyoneering rope? but I guess you never know where he might have got it from.
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Deekaid
climber
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since when are static ropes more expensive than dynamic ropes?
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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it's because it's a higher quality static rope as compared to a bargain dynamic rope.
and would you take $40 shipped for the rope?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2013 - 03:45pm PT
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I'll think about that offer. thanks. let me determine if it a static line. I'm sort of feeling if it is I really did score and my want to keep it for The Hallucinogen Wall
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Deekaid
climber
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gotcha ...those edelweiss flash ropes do suck...like a steel cable ...no hand at all
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Yeah, Doug, those Canyon Fire Imlay ropes wear like iron.
Look at the weave...yellow box with a red center. I've never seen an Edelweiss or other climbing rope with that pattern or weave.
That it isn't marked on the ends is telling. I've not seen, at least in recent times, a rope made in Europe for rock climbing that doesn't have the CE/UIAA tags on the ends. My Edelweiss rope has the tags on the ends.
Should be hot melted through the core.
Should feel pretty rough and stiff. Fairly good hand when used a bit. Can be a tad bitey when new.
Imlay stuff is available in your area. Wouldn't be uncommon to find.
http://www.summithut.com/products/83mm-x-300-ft-canyon-fire-rope/
Weigh it. Compare the weight to an Imlay cord. Voila. Might be easier than measuring the elongation...
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Deekaid
climber
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thanks for the Intel I have never bought a static rope except from Bluewater.
damn! pricey
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