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Chris McNamara
SuperTopo staff member
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 4, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
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A Message from Ana and Jose that I'm posting for them:
Dear folks at SuperTopo,
Recently, SuperTopo hosted the forum topic "Climber shot in Ten Sleep." My name is Ana Deaconu, and I am the girlfriend of Jose, the climber who was shot.
The SuperTopo forum provoked a lot of interesting conversation about other conflicts between climbers and locals in Ten Sleep. It also provoked an unfortunate quantity of comments that we found to be very disrespectful and insensitive. While we found it hurtful to read some of the comments on the forum ("it was probably his girlfriend"; "he's Ecuadorian, it was probably drug related"), we hope that SuperTopo can help us out now that we are in need. Jose's medical bills are getting very near $50,000, and there is more follow-up medical care to come. He has no insurance. We have established a website where we tell what happened at Ten Sleep and ask climbers to consider making a contribution (via Paypal, credit or debit).
Can SuperTopo please announce the website and contribution fund on your forum, as well as on any other relevant parts of your site? We would make a forum comment ourselves, but we don't have a SuperTopo account and his medical bills have make us weigh all economic decisions very carefully.
The site is http://joserecoveryfund.org/
Please let me know if this is possible. If SuperTopo would also consider making a contribution, it would be very meaningful to us.
Thank you,
Ana and Jose
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jahil
Social climber
London, Paris, WV & CA
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Big bump for this one.
steve
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
California
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If you want to know the exact story, you can read it at the link. In a nutshell it sounds like this couple was attacked while they slept in their tent and the male was shot in the chest. Local law enforcement has low hopes of solving the case.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Ana and Jose
Please look into various programs available to reduce your bills before sending any payment not absolutely necessary to continue needed health care services. In this nation we are extorted by Medical oligopoly and unregulated non-competitive practices in order for large corporations to make Billions off our life threatening hardships.
I am all for paying for services at reasonable rates. But please don't let yourself be extorted at the basic level of "your money or your life". No one should feel morally obligated to pay that type of debt.
Take care of yourselves first and get out and back home when you can.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
California
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Every hospital takes huge write-offs every year because people can't pay. It sounds like you're basically unable to pay which is probably the case for ~25% of the people they see.
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Urizen
Ice climber
Berkeley, CA
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Just walk into the Accounts Receivable office and whisper, "Hill-Burton Act."
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Chugach
Trad climber
Vermont
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Get on the plane and fly home. That solves your US medical bills. We breed the guntoting whackos so we'll pick up the tab.
Not sure what to suggest for your continuing bills back home.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Weather? Really Ezra?
Anna,
it is a climber's forum so inappropriate comments and black humor are the norm.
Often it is a cover for some very warm hearts, so don't sweat it.
If these bills are inescapable you should let us know.
What the heck happened anyway?
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scaredycat
Trad climber
Berkeley,CA
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I gave, and I'm happy I did. I don't give to a lot of hard luck cases on ST, but somebody comes to my country and gets shot through no fault of his own: that BS.
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Climberdude
Trad climber
Fresno, CA
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Come on climbers! These were two foreign climbers visiting a fantastic climbing area in the US and some crazy thing happened to them. This is not the time to make sarcastic comments. Think of if this happened to you when you were climbing in a foreign country.
I donated and feel proud of it. I also wrote to the county sheriff asking them to keep this investigation open as well as let it be known that incidents like this will not be tolerated. Let's leave the political and sacastic commments for other threads. Ten Sleep is a great place to climb and they were just trying to enjoy this great place which I got to visit on a trip in August.
Mark
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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I sent them some $ as soon as I got my paycheck. I'm completely horrified about what happened to these folks. People should be able to camp and climb in peace and they didn't deserve what happened to them. They certainly don't deserve snarky commentary. Wish those people would keep that BS to themselves.
Beyond any medical bills they are racking up, a gunshot to the chest is going to cause some financial hardship. Even if he returns home there will be follow-up medical care and his ability to work and support himself will be affected for some time.
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nah000
climber
canuckistan
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i'll be honest: i haven't donated to any of these requests for money in the past...
but this is beyond the pale.
being randomly shot in the chest while enjoying some climbing in another country?
no one should have to deal with the [financial] consequences of this alone.
even $5 multiplied by thousands of people adds up. $20 even faster.
given the information we currently have, this could have been anyone of us.
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Floyd Hayes
Trad climber
Hidden Valley Lake, CA
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Oct 14, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
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I just donated. Good luck to you Ana and Jose!
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L
climber
California dreamin' on the farside of the world..
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Oct 14, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
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Ana and Jose,
There's an amazing fundraising site called "GoFundMe" that could really be of help to you, I think. A friend of mine (who just had cancer surgery) needed $15,000 for follow-up alternative treatments in Mexico, and merely through her friends and Facebook postings, she was able to raise $22,000 and get her treatments.
There are many different people fundraising on the site, for all types of causes, and it seems to be working miracles for some of them. I don't believe there's an upfront cost, but it's something you could find out very easily by Googling "GoFundMe".
I wish you all the best.
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sdvega
Trad climber
Portland, OR
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Oct 15, 2013 - 03:32am PT
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I'm so sorry to hear about this horrifying event. What a traumatic experience. My heart goes out to both of you. I will send $ as soon as I get paid next, and have posted this on other social media forums to generate more help. Best wishes to you. I hope your further experiences of climbing in the US can leave you with better memories someday.
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EmEl
Trad climber
Montana
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Oct 16, 2013 - 08:10pm PT
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Unbelievable.
Sad, scary.
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couchmaster
climber
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Jul 31, 2015 - 01:35pm PT
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Well, when I read this crazy story in todays news I was thinking of the Ten Sleep shooting, which also seemed so random and strange: http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/fbi-man-killed-parents-because-daughter-laughed/138691#more-138691
Then decided to google this dickwads address as it's Worland, Wyoming. He lives 20 miles from Ten Sleep. Both shootings were from a .22. I have sent the following to the Wyoming Highway Patrol:
"Hi guys:
I was reading a strange incident that just occurred and it sounded just like the kind of strange shooting that had randomly happened in Ten Sleep canyon a couple years back. Today's story is located here: http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/fbi-man-killed-parents-because-daughter-laughed/138691#more-138691.
The news story says that Jesus Deniz, also known as, 18 - was arrested for randomly shooting some folks who stopped to help him. His address, Worland, Wy. is only 20 miles from the earlier random unsolved Ten Sleep, Wy. shooting of the visiting Equadorian rock climber Jose Mosquera in 2013.
The news story today says " In an interview with two FBI agents on Wednesday, Deniz admitted to shooting three people with a .22 caliber rifle and then driving away in their car, a court statement filed by FBI Special Agent Larry McGrail II said."
The earlier unsolved shooting of Jose Mosquera in 2013, was also random, with a .22 cal as well.
Regards,
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Sent something similar to the Worland police dept." In 2013, there was an unsolved shooting of an Equadorian rock climber named Jose Mosquera. He and his girlfriend Ana were camping in Ten Sleep Canyon, they hear a noise at 2am and Jose got up to see what it was. A shot rang out in the darkness and he was hit. It came close to killing him according to news reports at the time. http://www.murdertrial.org/article6510742/rock_climber_shot_near_ten_sleep_early_monday.htm
Today I am reading the news and trip over this: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/31/mexican-accused-double-murder-legal-immigrant/ I note several coincidences. 1st, the shooter in todays story was in country in 2013 when Jose was shot. Next, the shooter arrested today lives today in Worland. 20 miles from Ten Sleep. 3rd) Both shooting incidents seem so random, unreasonable and unexplainable. Lastly, both shootings were with a .22 cal. round. Very uncommon round to intetionally shoot at a person with.
It's just too coincidental to not look into. For myself, I'm a rock climber and would like to get out to Ten Sleep sometime. It has a good reputation of solid and kind people - other than this incident.
Good luck guys!"
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jul 31, 2015 - 02:01pm PT
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Mr. Deniz told the FBI he shot the three people with a .22 caliber rifle because he was tired of waiting, and because he thought he heard the daughter laughing at him, FBI Special Agent Larry J. McGrail II said in the affidavit.
Mr. Deniz is Mexican, and the Obama administration deems him a legal permanent resident who entered the country legally on May 31, 2013 — though they didn’t say how he earned that status initially.
Timing is possibly correct anyway.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jul 31, 2015 - 02:07pm PT
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Trump was right!
Be sure to vote for him, TGT!
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couchmaster
climber
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Jul 31, 2015 - 02:14pm PT
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Trump climbed with Jose?
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Jul 31, 2015 - 02:16pm PT
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One of my first thoughts after the 2013 incident - who the heck carries a .22 rifle? Seems to me, among rednecks, it's the kind a gun you hand your 8yr old. However, I'm not an expert on redneck culture. The whole .22 thing coupled with someone who seemed to have a driver's license and from redneck central WY - it seemed odd to me.
However, here, it makes more sense - some poor dumb immigrant with no clue nor sense of culture and esteem buys the cheapest gun he can find.
That arrest photo - the look on his face - I almost took a swing at my monitor. I hope they fry him.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 31, 2015 - 02:20pm PT
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That arrest photo - the look on his face
Really, and wazzup with cocking yer head up so you look two inches taller?
Don't they know how to take a proper mug shot in Wyoming?
"Put yer head down or we'll put it down for you!"
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Jul 31, 2015 - 02:38pm PT
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Sounds like you are onto something Couchmaster. Very perceptive. This guy is a good argument for the electric chair. In fact I would volunteer to throw the switch.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 31, 2015 - 02:56pm PT
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Yeah, well, he'll sit on Death Row for 20 years at $75K/year with his cable TV
and twisted sister pen pals wanting to marry him cause he's misunderstood.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jul 31, 2015 - 03:33pm PT
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Reilly, bring it down a notch.
You're way too up-beat.
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couchmaster
climber
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Jul 31, 2015 - 03:39pm PT
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As a climbing related side note: Aaron Hueys spectacular Ten Sleep climbing guide just came out last week. It's identical to a prayer book in style. I mean, it feels like the prayerbook was lifted from church and reprinted. Leather bible cover, silk place holder ribbon and all the rest. Except great pics too, Huey being a very artistic and professional caliber photojournalist. Title: "Holy Ten Sleep: Electric Koolaid 3D Acid Test". (take off from the Tom Wolfe title and it's got 3 D effects in it.) LOL
$100 - bet that got ya to stop laughing:-) Don't tell Chris as he'll probably bump the price the Supertopos are going for. Huey has a great web site as well. I haven't climbed at Ten Sleep yet, not really a bolted climber guy although I'm getting there as my son clips a lot of bolts. Love to road trip there with him. Wonder how many thousands of bolts are at Ten Sleep?
Here's a very well written review of the sold out last edition called "Lies and propaganda, Ten Sleep" http://www.dpmclimbing.com/climbing-gear/view/lies-and-propaganda-ten-sleep-wyoming
New guide sale location: http://extremeangles.com/?product=holy-ten-sleep-electric-koolaide-3-d-acid-test
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Jul 31, 2015 - 05:14pm PT
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One more thought - seemed from the original 2013 story, the victim may recognise the shooter from a restaurant or some-such. Shooter seems like the kind of guy who would freak out or misinterpret something he overheard the victim say ... ? Maybe someone has victim's contact, send him the mugshot...
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jul 31, 2015 - 06:40pm PT
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Link is broken, and no variant of it works.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Jul 31, 2015 - 08:31pm PT
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It's great that you took the initiative to write those letters, Couchmaster!
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jul 31, 2015 - 09:51pm PT
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Ten Sleep has long been one of my favorite places. And I was just bragging on another thread about how crime free are Wyoming and Montana, and now this.
The shooter looks as though he is older than 18, and probably mentally ill, too. I join the county DA in wondering what this guy was doing in Big Horn County and in Pryor.
On another note, I am sort of sorry the climbers did not have any self-defense with them, especially since Wyoming is kindly about such things. No, I do not mean bear spray.
My heart goes out to the family of the recent victims and to the family of the Ten Sleep climber and his partner. I hope they find the criminal(s) and that there is an in depth investigation.
Good call, couchmaster.
feralfae
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couchmaster
climber
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Feb 27, 2018 - 03:59pm PT
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Fed 2nd 2018
Charges dropped against the convicted killer, Mexican Jesus Mendoza. http://www.wyodaily.com/story/2018/02/02/news/charges-dropped-against-ten-sleep-canyon-shooter/6407.html
"WORLAND – Attempted second degree murder charges have been dropped in the case of a 2013 shooting in Ten Sleep Canyon, previously admitted to by former Worland resident Jesus Y. Deniz, currently serving a life sentence in Montana for a 2015 double murder.
As previously reported in the Northern Wyoming Daily News, during the early morning hours of Sept. 16, 2013, emergency room staff at Washakie Medical Center in Worland notified law enforcement that gunshot victim Jose Luis Mosquera Araujo, of Ecuador, had visited the ER.
Araujo and girlfriend Ana Deaconu, rock climbers, had been camping in Ten Sleep Canyon when at about 2 a.m., they heard something fall on their tent. Exiting the tent, they heard the sound of a gunshot and Araujo felt like he had been hit with something.
Araujo and Deaconu then left the canyon to visit the ER in Worland.
Araujo survived the shooting and returned to Ecuador, but the case went unsolved for two years.
After his arrest for the July 2015 Pryor, Mont., murders of Jason and Tana Shane, along with the wounding their daughter Jorah, Deniz admitted to authorities that he had committed the Ten Sleep Canyon shooting, and was charged by the Washakie County Attorney’s Office in October 2015.
After charges were dropped in January, Washakie County Attorney John Worrall explained that “he [Deniz] got life plus 60 years[for the Montana murders], so there’s no point in filing a detainer on a dead guy. Plus we would have to import two witnesses from Ecuador for a crime he already admitted to.”
Worrall verified that the Washakie County Victims Advocate office has made an attempt to contact Jose Araujo of the county’s decision to drop the charges."
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