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paool
Trad climber
Walnut, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 1, 2013 - 02:49pm PT
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Just incase you don't know already,
government shutdown, all national parks closed.
Rather than seeing repeated topics on the same thing, I'd like to start a thread on the places we CAN climb. Please contribute what you can so we can make the best of this situation.
I'll try to organize this list as time goes on.
California
Unconfirmed unaffected climbing
Confirmed unaffected climbing
-Riverside Quarry
-Stoney Point
-People's wall in La Jolla
-Mission Gorge
-El Trono Blanco
-Mt Woodson
-Suicide Rock
-Valley of the Moon
-Rialto
-Big Rock
-Owens River Gorge
-Calaveras Dome
-Woodfords Canyon
-Tahoe
-Tom's Thumb
-Sonora Pass
-The Landing Strip
-Holcomb Valley
-Mt Saint Helena
-New Jack City
-Tahquitz
Nevada
Unconfirmed unaffected climbing
Confirmed unaffected climbing
-Some parts of RedRock
-Black Velvet Canyon
-First Creek via 159
-Old Oak Creek via 159
-Kraft Mountain
-Dinosaur rock
-Prison hill
-Iron Butte
-Sunrise pass boulders
-Footlooses clear creek area
-Washoe boulders
-Thomas Creek crags
-Woodfords Canyon
-Pig Rock
-Sheldon refuge
-Black rock
-Granite range
-Wild Granites
-Ruby Mountains
-Pequop summit
Arizona
Unconfirmed unaffected climbing
Confirmed unaffected climbing
-Parts of Queen Creek Canyon
Colorado
Confirmed unaffected climbing
Staunton State Park
the South Platte
the First Flatiron
North Table Mountain
Clear Creek
Garden of the Gods
Red Rocks Park
Boulder Rock Club
Rock'n n Jam'n
The Spot
Thrillseekers
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PAUL SOUZA
Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
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Courtright, Tollhouse, Square Nail, Patterson Bluff (If you dare), Needles, the High Sierra....
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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People's wall in La Jolla
Mission Gorge
El Trono Blanco
Mt Woodson
Suicide Rock
Valley of the Moon
Rialto
Big Rock
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Pcutler
climber
Iowa
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Parts of Red Rocks will remail open.
Copied off Mountain Project.
"Greetings Red Rock Canyon Climbers/Visitors,
Your visit to Red Rock may be affected by the current Government Shutdown. Our latest Red Rock/Sloan Field Office staff meeting indicated the following areas will be closed to the general public and permitted operations:
13 Mile Scenic Byway
Campground (vacated within 48 hours)
Red Springs Picnic Area
159 Overlook
However, you may visit other areas of Red Rock Canyon NCA that have not been closed. This includes locations such as Black Velvet Canyon, First Creek via 159, Old Oak Creek via 159, Kraft Mountain, etc.
Most of the Red Rock / Sloan Field Office will be furloughed before noon today. Exceptions to the furlough include law enforcement officers (LEOs).
Below is a link to the Government Shutdown contingency plan for the BLM. www.doi.gov/shutdown/fy2014/upload/BLM-Contingency-Plan.pdf"
http://www.mountainproject.com/v/red-rock-and-the-impending-government-shutdown/108352489#a_108363932
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surfstar
climber
Santa Barbara, CA
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I'll make it easier...flow chart:
1) am I climbing in a National Park?
--> if No, you're fine.
--> if Yes, you may have to wait a day or two.
/end thread
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Calaveras Dome, Woodfords Canyon
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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surfstar for the win.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Anywhere that's not green
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Alabama Hills? Does not show up as green on google maps...
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hagerty
Social climber
A Sandy Area South of a Salty Lake
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That map is missing a lot of areas since it only shows the National Parks but not all the other areas that are administered and run by the National Park Service.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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About 10 - 15 smaller crags north of Kernville.
Stuff along the Sherman Pass... you must find for yourself, otherwise a hit squad will be sent to silence me. true- really.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Donner, Dinosaur Rock, most of Tahoe I bet, Indian Springs, Bowman Lake, Pig Rock, Emeralds, Washoe Boulders.
Hey... those aren't national parks. Oops.
Who woulda thought there could be life outside the federal gubmint?
Recall elections anyone? Or would that just lead to more of the same?
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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my basement
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briham89
Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
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Sonora pass..one pass up from Yosemite.
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susan peplow
climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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The majority of the Alabama Hills is BLM, although they seem to have some contingency plan where some areas are open just not providing any emergency services. Alabama Hills may fall under the "a non- developed recreational destination with no controlled access" status. http://www.doi.gov/shutdown/fy2014/upload/BLM-FAQ.pdf
Limited areas in the hills are LADWP and wouldn't be effected.
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Rick Krause
Trad climber
Madras, Or
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This is a good thing. Get climbers out exploring new climbing areas to develop.
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alina
Trad climber
CA
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Are National Forests closed to the public during the government shutdown? Meaning, are we technically not allowed to go into those areas during the shutdown? Or, are we physically prevented from entering them? Are there gates on National Forest roads that are being closed and padlocked right now?
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Chango
Trad climber
norcal
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Drove by CRSP today and it was open (no fed funding)
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Mr_T
Trad climber
Northern California
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No Sonora Pass is definitely closed. I wound't even try driving up 108 unless you want to get tooled. Tahoe is probably open.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Yer mom.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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All of the black hills accept devils tower I wonder if frank can leave or go home now? My brother is supposed to go rafting on a big trip and they are totally in limbo. Yep river is closed.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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bvb
Yer mom.
That's caving, not climbing.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, paool... this is a very good share!
thanks for getting this started...
interesting fro us non-climbers to read, too, :)
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Hmmm Deto.. Sort of ironic to have a business that depends on a park / monument, to run, but belong to a party that closes it....
Glad I have Indian creek
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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No one has mentioned Smith Rocks State park? Isn't that open?
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aguacaliente
climber
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As far as I can tell most national forests are not closed except for "developed areas" - campgrounds, visitor centers, etc. Campground roads with gates might be closed. It seems to be the case in Arizona that forests are still accessible.
HOWEVER, don't forget that all the bears have been ejected from the national parks and will be roaming the adjacent national forests looking for revenge. So don't go into the forest, because you will surely meet a lonely and savage fate.
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paool
Trad climber
Walnut, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 2, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
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updated
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Mr_T
Trad climber
Northern California
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Nope Tahoe is also closed. I'd suggest avoiding California all together. I hear Oregon is the place to be right now.
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briham89
Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
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Sonora Pass is open.... I'm climbing there tomorrow...Mr_T just be trollin' ;)
I know it was "secret" before the guidebook, but there is so much damn rock up there. It's never going to be crowded. It would be nice to see some new faces out there
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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open but supposed to snow tomorrow night.
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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The Landing Strip
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paool
Trad climber
Walnut, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 3, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
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updated
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Squamish is open for business! Come on up!!
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susan peplow
climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Holcomb Valley, CA confirmed open on Mountain Project. Not sure if they took Van Dusen access but they got up there just the same.
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H
Mountain climber
there and back again
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Going climbing on Mt Saint Helena today. Best climbing in the Bay Area.
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Damn this looks high
Trad climber
Temecula, CA
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Suicide and Tahquitz climber trails are open, as are all of the other hiking trails not affected by the fire closures. However, Humber Park and any other areas with 'facilities' which need maintenance, aka, toilets, are closed (no staff to service the facilities). Humber will be closed later today or tomorrow and the parking lot barricaded according to a forestry firefighter I spoke with earlier today. They just got the directive this morning.
The forestry roads to Black Mountain and Southridge are gated but you can still access those areas via hiking. There is a sign on the door of the local ranger station here in Idyllwild indicating that hiking is legal and that Forest Adventure passes are not required to park at trailheads. No mention of requiring wilderness permits for hikers but I assume that the kiosk at the station will run out of permits soon.
Jim Dover
Nomad Ventures Idyllwild
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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COWLOWRADO
Staunton State Park
the South Platte
the First Flatiron
North Table Mountain
Clear Creek
Garden of the Gods
Red Rocks Park (NO, knot that one)!
Boulder Rock Club
Rock'n n Jam'n
The Spot
Thrillseekers
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susan peplow
climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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New Jack City, Ca - Confirmed open for climbing. Sizable yet casual crowd today but it was a Saturday.... could always be like that for all I know. In my opinion the camp host had every right to close the area under the BLM contingency rule but didn't. New Jack has ramadas, BBQ's, picnic tables and playground and even brick & mortar potties.... I think that falls under "campground".
According to DOI.gov the BLM FAQ read, "All recreation facilities, including campgrounds, boat ramps etc., will be closed. If it is a non- developed recreational destination with no controlled access, you may visit. However, there will be no services and there will no non-emergency services available."
As it is, the host was very accommodating even opening up the potties as he thought it was silly to open up the area for people to use but not have potties. I assume he'll be conscientious that if they get full or need to be pumped will close them down again but still quite cool of him. I think the idea of poop & paper floating around under his watch didn't sound sensible.
If you go, consider bringing him some cookies or something, I know we will next trip.
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morinseb
Trad climber
QC
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Is it possible to climb in the High Sierras like the climbs on the Incredible Hulk?
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Would it not be easier to list what is closed?
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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You can still get to Buck Rock, Big Baldy and Chimney Rocks in Sequoia through the 180 entrance, just don't stop inside the park (they're in the forest).
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Nate D
climber
San Francisco
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Cool, I think nobody has mentioned my favorite climbing area yet.
:)
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