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patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Sep 5, 2013 - 07:15pm PT
Good to see this is yet Another cranky never was thread of 5.9 chuffers casting aspersions on a different style that doesn't favor mediocrity.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2013 - 07:20pm PT
Hey!

DMT
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Sep 5, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
I realized sport climbing was cool when I saw Ron Kauk hiking into smith rocks with a cheater stick.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Sep 5, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
Hey wankers - that's a chick - on a 5.14.

Five - fuking - four - fuking - teen.

I JUST LOVE these comparisons to all the 5.fuking easy routes you all plug your little metal doo-hickies and widgets into. Do you take your roller skates off first?

Please tell us all about some TRAD 5.14 ROUTES!! Like where, and how do they get climbed?
DanaB

climber
CT
Sep 5, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
**Burch3y adds nothing but a smart mouth/keyboard, once again.

Dude, add something to the conversation or get the f*#k out.**

He did, something fairly pertinent. You just didn't like it.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Sep 5, 2013 - 07:30pm PT
Good to see this is yet Another cranky never was thread of 5.9 chuffers casting aspersions on a different style that doesn't favor mediocrity.

That's why I'm here.

Please tell us all about some TRAD 5.14 ROUTES!! Like where, and how do they get climbed?

Please tell me why I should give a f*#k about what the number is after the decimal point.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2013 - 07:59pm PT
I didn't know the grade translation when I watched the vid and made the OP.

I was moved by the grace and power of a top tier climber going all out. Those stems were amazing. The features on the wall are priceless. The position is other worldly. Her back is a sight to behold. She's an inspiration to me and hopefully to my partners as well.

The question was answered right away munge, the essence of sport climbing is climbing.

Only have to watch the vid to see that.

I'm happy clipping 5 dot easy sport routes too and the whole Dirty Hippy Never Clip a Bolt thing? I couldn't care less. I go tradding when I want.

DMT

guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Sep 5, 2013 - 08:03pm PT
People that think sport climbing is 'fun' haven't projected a route and pushed their physical limits.

Patric... that is just plain wrong.

It's the working, learning and remembering the sequences that make "IT" fun.... and when and if you get the red point... well thats the golden ring.


And to Chief... YOU go to ORG, CC and other spots, so how come the hate on SC????
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2013 - 08:05pm PT
Guyman it doesn't have to be fun to be fun. Hmmm, now who said that? ;-)

Something interesting from the About section of Monique's web page:

Gday! My name is Monique Forestier, I am a climbing fanatic and I live in the Blue Mountains (near Sydney) with my hubby Simon Carter and daughter Coco.

I have been climbing now for 15 years. Climbing has given me, not only the perfect physical and mental outlet; it has been a constant in my life and a direction on which to set the compass to travel the world. I am truly lucky to have visited many wonderful places and to have met beautiful people whilst living my life of adventure. Now with Coco on board its certainly more challenging in fact travelling with Coco has opened many doors and she adds yet another element to enrich our travel experiences.

Some of my notable achievements are becoming the first Australian women to climb routes graded 31 and 32. But to worry too much about grades seriously misses the point about what climbing has to offer. For me climbing allows me to push my limits, physical and mental. Focussing on my own dreams and setting my own personal challenges has given me the freedom and direction for which to pursue my climbing.
Monique Forestier

DMT
eKat

Trad climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
Sep 5, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
What's the essence of sport climbing?

As with any pursuit, in the name of recreation, hands down, it's got to be FUN!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Sep 5, 2013 - 08:10pm PT
I'll climb ANYTHING and love every minute of it,
But I still prefer to climb cracks or any features
where I can place my own gear.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Sep 5, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
DMT... +1

I recall it goes something like this.... "most folks would not consider this fun"

And you are correct... the essence is the climbing


EDIT: Bob D'A ..... NEXT time please get a better pic of Lynn, OK.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 5, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
And to Chief... YOU go to ORG, CC and other spots, so how come the hate on SC????

GUY:


Deep breath.... sarcasm.

Remember, if I did not feel any kin to SC, I surely would not have assisted in rebolting over 426 routes and replacing the anchors on over 375 (cus of all them Sporties Yo Yoing off of em instead of setting up a temp anchor to TR off), throughout the west over the past 20 or so years. I totally lost count of how many replaced bolts that all entailed.

Just a little sarcasm Guy.


Everybody's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to serious around here.


BOBDA:

Nice shot of Mark and Lynn. Got one question. Appears that Lynn is taller than Mark.... wtf is up with that?






Sarcasm.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Sep 5, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
DMT,

But it's not, unless we disregard fully the adjective attached to the phrase "Sport Climbing"

What is essential to climbing is climbing. That's tautologically true.

What is essential to sport climbing is sport climbing.

But to make sense of that is to define it's core characteristics.


Usually this is where I go into a rant about the history of a thing, rather than it's essence, since really essences are metaphysical objects. I.e. they are part of the world of ideas. But I'm ready to head out the door and go boulder. HAH!

:)

Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Sep 5, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
Isn't, ALL, Climbing, a Sport?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
Yes let's disregard all the adjectives and stick to the important part - climbing.

Like on those boulders.

I'm about to head to Pho Dynasty for some Vietnamese noodles and pork, mmmmm. Meeting a friend whom I've known, oh sh#t, 27 years. Hopefully hit up the boulder at the park after I've stuffed myself :D

DMT
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Sep 5, 2013 - 09:07pm PT
I find it interesting that even top climbers can't help but grab the rope when they fall.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Sep 5, 2013 - 09:13pm PT
Nice shot of Mark and Lynn. Got one question. Appears that Lynn is taller than Mark.... wtf is up with that?

That's funny, we were actually comparing heights. She said she is 5' 1 3/4", and that its important for us short people to work the quarter inches. I told her that I'm 5' 1 7/8" and that the eighths are even more important!
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Sep 5, 2013 - 09:34pm PT
I ride a beater cruiser to work, but it is a single speed without a helmet so that makes me cool.

.and furthermore, I have an opinion on how others should ride their bikes.

Gears, helmets, spin classes to train, intervals, heart rate monitors: all that is for pussies.

I ride my beater cruiser in a finer style than any road rider.
mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Sep 5, 2013 - 11:10pm PT
At the heart of it:

Ball cupping.
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