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guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Sep 5, 2013 - 11:46am PT
Kaholatingtong and Vitality.... well said.

I do go back to when it was just CLIMBING.

No need to devide into segments intill Ice Climbing showed up...

But to me Sport Climbing is FUN climbing, to go all out and see how hard I can climb is what climbing has become, for me.

For you guys who wish to remain "pure" please do so and don't come out and embarrass yourself.

Good topic Dingus

drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Sep 5, 2013 - 11:47am PT
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0NLheu8mU
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 5, 2013 - 11:49am PT
So funny to hear some remarks from the old trad climbers who are stuck in some weird ass time warp.


A few shots from yesterday sport climbing outing in Upper Dream Canyon. Mark Hudon and Lynn Hill enjoy clipping bolts, maybe the neanderthals should just shut up or move on.

Credit: Bob D'A

Credit: Bob D'A
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Sep 5, 2013 - 11:52am PT
I wonder why we don't really hear women climbers arguing/moaning/bickering about bolting/methods of climbing/etc?

They have own forums where they mainly post shirtless Burchy photos. No time for arguments. ;)
G_Gnome

Trad climber
who gave up and just goes sailing now!
Sep 5, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
A bunch of us old tradsters love to sport climb. That is not to say that I don't still enjoy getting all scared on Tuolumne runout slab but it is damn fun to go do clip-ups too and it what I do most of the time anymore as do most of my friends who are also just either side of 60 year old.
jgill

Boulder climber
Colorado
Sep 5, 2013 - 12:13pm PT
To the general public, sport climbing = rock climbing. A glimpse into the future.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Sep 5, 2013 - 12:14pm PT
So funny to hear some remarks from the old trad climbers who are stuck in some weird ass time warp.

Let's go, just bolt up the whole thing, 6 inches apart, clips everywhere.

There are no limits, max it out.
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Sep 5, 2013 - 12:18pm PT
If Bosch bulldogs were around in 1963 sportclimbing would be happily embracing its 50th anniversary & 5.13 would be the new 5.7. Ondra would be onsighting 18d & red pointing 19b.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 5, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
"Let's go, just bolt up the whole thing, 6 inches apart, clips everywhere.

There are no limits, max it out."


Another fear monger...What are you talking about and please show examples?


Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Sep 5, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
back to the original question?

anyone

anyone

anyone
Mike Friedrichs

Sport climber
City of Salt
Sep 5, 2013 - 12:35pm PT
I'll bite. Sport climbing is about "learning it down." Learning when to move fast, and more importantly when to rest. Learning how to learn. Then executing it perfectly. It takes concentration and a different kind of commitment. I find it to be interesting, fun and way rewarding.

And to the old tradsters (I'm one BTW) who think the bolts are "6 inches apart," I take bigger and more numerous falls consistently sport climbing than any other type of climbing. Maybe you ought to try it sometime and see how brave it makes you.

Also, what ElCap said about more time climbing and less time fiddling with toys.
Burch3y

Mountain climber
San Diego
Sep 5, 2013 - 12:37pm PT
They have own forums where they mainly post shirtless Burchy photos. No time for arguments. ;)


Dude, add something to the conversation or get the f*#k out.
10b4me

Ice climber
Soon 2B in Arizona
Sep 5, 2013 - 12:37pm PT
not getting as injured
Burch3y

Mountain climber
San Diego
Sep 5, 2013 - 12:42pm PT
When I'm clipping bolts, it's 98% of the time at the gym, where I'm just there to try to get mentally and physically stronger.

I've got a block, where I'm happier climbing above gear than I am the rock-solid bolts...doesn't make any sense, but I'll freak out much more easily there than I do in the alpine. Makes it hard to really advance in my training, unless I'm riding the TR-train. It seems like I derive the most joy from fumbling with pro.
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Sep 5, 2013 - 12:51pm PT
People that think sport climbing is 'fun' haven't projected a route and pushed their physical limits.

They are climbing within their comfort level physically and mentally.

Not to say that projecting isn't fun in it's own way.... in that winning and succeeding are satisfying.

Trying to complete a route over a month of constant training and work is a mental exercise, just not the same mental exercise as trad.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 5, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
This is worth repeating:

Sport Climbing- Alpinism's Answer to Menopause...

The bumper sticker that I haven't quite got around to printing up yet. LOL


At least in the hope that he will eventually produce such a bumper sticker.



But then..... isn't Alpinism nothing more than the search for sport climbing in all the wrong places?
steve shea

climber
Sep 5, 2013 - 01:23pm PT
What's up with a grunt a move? Sounds like a tennis match. Is that part of the shtick now? Spent some time in the Verdon in the mid 70's. The coolest thing is rapping off your bumper and climbing back up to the car. High standards too as in difficult. Pretty well suited to bolt laps. Pretty fun. The first sport climbing I ever did was in the Verdon, pretty cool place. But I do not think the Froggies called it sport climbing then. Oh, and the essence? Way less serious endeavor than climbing. That's why it is fun but not as rewarding for me. Guess I'm missing something. Thank's for putting up all those sport routes though. I'd never do it. One problem here is that most of the sport crags are limestone, have seen 15/20 yrs of traffic and now polished to a glassy veneer. Not much fun any more.
Bad Climber

climber
Sep 5, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
Great vid! T'was a lot of grunting, I'll grant you that. I always thought Sharma's screaming was way over the top--as in we're all damn lucky everyone doesn't do that. Can you imagine the chaos at the crags? No thanks.

Sport/trad debate = WAY tedious.

BUt! Not every crag should be grid bolted either, so as others have said, we need some "rules," yes?

Thanks, DM, for the post.

BAd
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Sep 5, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
I take bigger and more numerous falls consistently sport climbing than any other type of climbing.

Yep. Which, in turn, makes me a much better trad climber. Every trad climber I know who climbs above about 5.11+ also sport climbs and boulders.

BITD, the sport climbing was toproping...a way to try hard stuff where you WILL fall, without putting yourself in a dangerous situation half the time. But there are many reasons why sport climbing is a better alternative to TR...aside from logistics where you can't easily access the top of many cliffs, the falling is integral. It will make you a better climber.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 5, 2013 - 01:50pm PT
I personally enjoy Sport Climbing cus it allows me to take more and longer "dumps" any where along the route.

Makes my Wife happy as well cus I come home with a bigass smile.

The "Sport Dump!"


Pinching one off on the PSOM Wall.







BURCHEY: I get it now. I really really do. Old dogs CAN learn new tricks.
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