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Mike Friedrichs

Sport climber
City of Salt
Sep 5, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
I'll bite. Sport climbing is about "learning it down." Learning when to move fast, and more importantly when to rest. Learning how to learn. Then executing it perfectly. It takes concentration and a different kind of commitment. I find it to be interesting, fun and way rewarding.

And to the old tradsters (I'm one BTW) who think the bolts are "6 inches apart," I take bigger and more numerous falls consistently sport climbing than any other type of climbing. Maybe you ought to try it sometime and see how brave it makes you.

Also, what ElCap said about more time climbing and less time fiddling with toys.
10b4me

Ice climber
Soon 2B in Arizona
Sep 5, 2013 - 03:37pm PT
not getting as injured
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Sep 5, 2013 - 03:51pm PT
People that think sport climbing is 'fun' haven't projected a route and pushed their physical limits.

They are climbing within their comfort level physically and mentally.

Not to say that projecting isn't fun in it's own way.... in that winning and succeeding are satisfying.

Trying to complete a route over a month of constant training and work is a mental exercise, just not the same mental exercise as trad.
steve shea

climber
Sep 5, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
What's up with a grunt a move? Sounds like a tennis match. Is that part of the shtick now? Spent some time in the Verdon in the mid 70's. The coolest thing is rapping off your bumper and climbing back up to the car. High standards too as in difficult. Pretty well suited to bolt laps. Pretty fun. The first sport climbing I ever did was in the Verdon, pretty cool place. But I do not think the Froggies called it sport climbing then. Oh, and the essence? Way less serious endeavor than climbing. That's why it is fun but not as rewarding for me. Guess I'm missing something. Thank's for putting up all those sport routes though. I'd never do it. One problem here is that most of the sport crags are limestone, have seen 15/20 yrs of traffic and now polished to a glassy veneer. Not much fun any more.
Bad Climber

climber
Sep 5, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
Great vid! T'was a lot of grunting, I'll grant you that. I always thought Sharma's screaming was way over the top--as in we're all damn lucky everyone doesn't do that. Can you imagine the chaos at the crags? No thanks.

Sport/trad debate = WAY tedious.

BUt! Not every crag should be grid bolted either, so as others have said, we need some "rules," yes?

Thanks, DM, for the post.

BAd
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Sep 5, 2013 - 04:35pm PT
I take bigger and more numerous falls consistently sport climbing than any other type of climbing.

Yep. Which, in turn, makes me a much better trad climber. Every trad climber I know who climbs above about 5.11+ also sport climbs and boulders.

BITD, the sport climbing was toproping...a way to try hard stuff where you WILL fall, without putting yourself in a dangerous situation half the time. But there are many reasons why sport climbing is a better alternative to TR...aside from logistics where you can't easily access the top of many cliffs, the falling is integral. It will make you a better climber.
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Sep 5, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
they have own forums where they mainly post shirtless Burchy photos. No time for arguments.

BWAAHAHAAA. No.


At this point, I'd be happy climbing anything.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Sep 5, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
Pure movement on rock. Sport climbing gets me closer to pure movement on rock.

Great shot, Bob, thanks for going out with me.
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Sep 5, 2013 - 06:27pm PT
Steve,
The grunt sound is the sound of trying.

Thanks for your contribution Chief. Was pushing out that duece harder than the route you did?
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 5, 2013 - 06:34pm PT
Mark...it was great fun...maybe get out later next week if you are around, I get back from Yellowstone Tuesday night.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Sep 5, 2013 - 06:35pm PT
I'll be here till the 20th (exploring all sorts of movement on rock regardless of what people call it).
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 5, 2013 - 06:44pm PT
"What's up with a grunt a move? Sounds like a tennis match....Not much fun any more."--Steve Shea

See last page--Perhaps one of SS's greatest posts ever! "The Essence of SS?"
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Sep 5, 2013 - 07:15pm PT
Good to see this is yet Another cranky never was thread of 5.9 chuffers casting aspersions on a different style that doesn't favor mediocrity.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2013 - 07:20pm PT
Hey!

DMT
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Sep 5, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
I realized sport climbing was cool when I saw Ron Kauk hiking into smith rocks with a cheater stick.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Sep 5, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
Hey wankers - that's a chick - on a 5.14.

Five - fuking - four - fuking - teen.

I JUST LOVE these comparisons to all the 5.fuking easy routes you all plug your little metal doo-hickies and widgets into. Do you take your roller skates off first?

Please tell us all about some TRAD 5.14 ROUTES!! Like where, and how do they get climbed?
DanaB

climber
CT
Sep 5, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
**Burch3y adds nothing but a smart mouth/keyboard, once again.

Dude, add something to the conversation or get the f*#k out.**

He did, something fairly pertinent. You just didn't like it.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2013 - 07:59pm PT
I didn't know the grade translation when I watched the vid and made the OP.

I was moved by the grace and power of a top tier climber going all out. Those stems were amazing. The features on the wall are priceless. The position is other worldly. Her back is a sight to behold. She's an inspiration to me and hopefully to my partners as well.

The question was answered right away munge, the essence of sport climbing is climbing.

Only have to watch the vid to see that.

I'm happy clipping 5 dot easy sport routes too and the whole Dirty Hippy Never Clip a Bolt thing? I couldn't care less. I go tradding when I want.

DMT

guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Sep 5, 2013 - 08:03pm PT
People that think sport climbing is 'fun' haven't projected a route and pushed their physical limits.

Patric... that is just plain wrong.

It's the working, learning and remembering the sequences that make "IT" fun.... and when and if you get the red point... well thats the golden ring.


And to Chief... YOU go to ORG, CC and other spots, so how come the hate on SC????
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2013 - 08:05pm PT
Guyman it doesn't have to be fun to be fun. Hmmm, now who said that? ;-)

Something interesting from the About section of Monique's web page:

Gday! My name is Monique Forestier, I am a climbing fanatic and I live in the Blue Mountains (near Sydney) with my hubby Simon Carter and daughter Coco.

I have been climbing now for 15 years. Climbing has given me, not only the perfect physical and mental outlet; it has been a constant in my life and a direction on which to set the compass to travel the world. I am truly lucky to have visited many wonderful places and to have met beautiful people whilst living my life of adventure. Now with Coco on board its certainly more challenging in fact travelling with Coco has opened many doors and she adds yet another element to enrich our travel experiences.

Some of my notable achievements are becoming the first Australian women to climb routes graded 31 and 32. But to worry too much about grades seriously misses the point about what climbing has to offer. For me climbing allows me to push my limits, physical and mental. Focussing on my own dreams and setting my own personal challenges has given me the freedom and direction for which to pursue my climbing.
Monique Forestier

DMT
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