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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 5, 2013 - 10:57pm PT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egpsoqLxkQE
Most people who worked with her - especially early on, and includoing Tony Bennett - said she had more vocal brilliance then anyone they had ever been around. Hard to lose one this good.
JL
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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That woman had such incredible talent . . . tragic.
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john hansen
climber
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She was a soul destined to die young. there is no other way to put it.
She gave her all but could not reconcile her pain with her greatness.
To give up drugs would be to give up her greatness.
A hard road to take. But many have gone that way..
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Gal
Trad climber
going big air to fakie
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she was an amazing and tortured soul. So much talent. Wish she was still here.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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sometimes you lose your musical motivation, so you try stuff to keep going, like booze, works for some folks, for a while,
she was great, i just wish she would have recorded live with the band, everything she did was overdubbed, so there is a loss of connection between the backing track on the vocals, you can hear it, the drummer and the vocals are just a bit out of sync, listen to You Know I'm No Good, one of her best tracks with weird lyrics, but it just does not ever get quite into a good groove, she might have used analog tape machines, this can cause a few milliseconds of delay on the vocals due to different locations for the record and playback heads, if she would have recorded that song live, she could have sung off the snare hits and it would have held up better over time due to a killer groove, as it stands now, the snare and vocals are in two different worlds,
ok, further research shows that Tom Elmhirst was the guy who screwed up the drums by using bass and snare samples to replace the original tracks, and it was all over dubbed, no tape machine but sony "slow tools" was used, so it was all digital, would have loved to hear her record live on a 2 inch Studer and the Neve board without all the digi crap,
Elmhirst was born in 71, so all he has experience with is digital, put Rodger Nichols in there and she would have won 10 grammys instead of 5,
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DanaB
climber
CT
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Nice sunset last night, really beautiful.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Definitely a talent. A reminder to all of us to treat life with respect, and enjoy the ride while we have it. None of us are getting out alive.
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TwistedCrank
climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
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She had good pipes, but was definately a prime cut whack job.
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Cwm
Trad climber
East
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To give up drugs would be to give up her greatness.
Unlikely drugs had anything to do with her greatness. Her heavy drug and alcohol abuse dragged her down; they didn't make her great. She was reported to have significant mental illness. The drug use was most likely her trying to deal with her psychological problems via self medication. She appears to have tried several times to get off them through rehab and abstinence, so apparently she didn't view them as great or adding to her abilities.
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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She gave her all but could not reconcile her pain with her greatness.
Just last night her final recorded effort was on the tele, a duet with Tony Bennett. Not her best. It was pretty painful to watch. You could see she was suffering but trying to be upbeat.
Heard someone say that her mental state was reflected by the size of her hair extensions - the more disturbed, the bigger the hair. When she sang with Tony it was massive.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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It's not often that I'm directly negative, but I just don't get it.
If you want soul listen to Joss Stones early stuff, or Alabama Shakes, or Deep Bannana Blackout (she's got pipes!)
Amy Winehouse was a tortured, talented human. But she wasn't better than any other current, lesser appreciated singer.
Does addiction give one credibility? If so, I'm the new Jesus.
Is this a posthumous appreciation simply because she left us?
Please expound.
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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It's not the actual sound of the voice, it's the sincerity and believability when a great singer sells something to you.
Think, Billie Holiday, Janis, Joe Cocker, technically they wouldn't pass muster as back-up singers for anyone, but boy could they get the message across, Amy had that.
Edit: Don't get me wrong, I like the great technical singers too, Ella, 'Retha, Nat....there's room for lots of variety on this bus.
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