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"For the past decade, gold has been an incredible investment, rising from under $300 per ounce to as high as $1,900 per ounce before retreating to around $1,650 in recent trading.

For the bulls, gold's recent drop is nothing more than a temporary setback on its inexorable march toward $2,000 and beyond. The case for gold rests primarily on factors familiar to anyone who's even remotely familiar with the metal: easy money from central banks around the world and rising demand from emerging economies, notably China and India. (See: Easy Money + Low Rates = Gold at $2000 by Year End)

But all good things must come to an end and Yoni Jacobs, chief investment strategist at Chart Prophet, believes gold's best days are behind it. In fact, Yoni believes there's a bubble in precious metals that's about to collapse as detailed in his book, Gold Bubble: Profiting from Gold's Impending Collapse.

While tipping his hat to the bullish arguments and sympathetic to reasons why people own gold, Jacobs says the metal's inability to rally despite Europe's ongoing crisis and renewed tensions in the Middle East are negative signs. "The froth is coming off," he says.

Technically, the strategist cites heavy volume during gold's sell-off last September and the negative divergence between gold and gold miners as warning signs. In the past six months, the Market Vectors Gold Miners ETF (GDX) is down 20% while the Gold ETF (GLD) is essentially flat.

Furthermore, gold is vulnerable to the global economic slowdown, he says, noting China just reported its slowest quarter in three years.

"If we have a recession or slowing global growth then all assets fall -- it's a deflationary period," Jacobs says. "Even though a lot of people are expecting inflation, if we enter recession that means the price of assets falls. Gold will fall together with the rest of commodities."

Finally, Jacobs cites "over-speculation" in gold, its "parabolic increase" in recent years, the "mass publicity" the metal has received, and the extreme emotions of its advocates as signs of it being in bubble territory.

Based on historical trends and technical patterns, Jacobs predicts gold will fall below the key $1,000 per ounce level on its way to the $700 area. He recommends shorting the GLD or GDX or buying out-of-the-money puts on gold as a way to profit from gold's demise.

Jacobs is clearly out on a limb on this prediction and there's a good chance he'll be proven wrong.

But hedging your positions and managing downside risks is always a good idea, especially with an investment that's appreciated as much as gold."

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Why go to all that bother with supercomposting?

People will continue to argue on the internet!

Near the gates and within two cities

There will be scourges the like of which was never seen,

Famine within plague, people put out by steel,

Crying to the great immortal God for relief.

There will be Flames and Da Brim stone.

Someone from th ST will go 2 tokes over the line

Alex Honnnold will go one better and do 3 tokes over the line

"Gold's big plunge may have only just begun.

A prominent gold forecaster predicts the yellow metal will drop to a mere $350 an ounce, a level unseen since 2003. It's dramatically lower than what most experts are currently calling for.

...Their research suggests gold could tumble to about $350 an ounce before it goes back to fair values. Plunging that low would translate to an 80% crash from gold's peak price in late 2011. That's big losses for investors. "

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On August 6, 2015, Goldman Sachs, which has issued very bearish forecasts on long-term gold prices, took delivery of a 3.2-ton purchase of physical gold.
On August 6, 2015, HSBC which also claims to be bearish, took delivery of a 3.9-ton purchase of physical gold.
In both cases, the purchases are registered as being for the benefit of the bank's own house account, rather than the accounts of customers.

On August 6, 2015, Goldman Sachs (NYSE:GS) and HSBC (NYSE:HSBC) took delivery of a sum total of 7.1 tons of physical gold. No, I have not made any typographical errors. And no, I am not talking about electronic paper claims. I am talking about shiny yellow metal stuff that you can touch and feel."

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Will Gold Be $1,000 or $10,000 in 2015?

12/31/2014

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by Lorimer Wilson
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The internet is awash with analysts who believe that gold is going UP to $10,000 or DOWN to $1,000 and that silver is going DOWN to $15 or UP to $300.

Such pundits (Roubini, Sinclair, Rickards, Willie and Edelson to name a few) grab a lot of attention in the media but are their prognostications worth paying attention to or are they just a lot of hot air?

Below is a list of forecasts of the future movement in the price of physical gold with an update as to how close their predictions have come to reality – to date.
1. Gold Could Possibily Reach $3,000 – $4,500 By 2016! Here’s Why

Vronsky of gold-eagle.com says that since the gold price has moved in concert with the growth in the US Federal Reserve Balance Sheet since 1999 including, the recent correction in both during the past three years, gold could possibily reach $3,000 – $4,500 by 2016! .

2. Gold & Silver: Parabolic Surge to $3,500 & $90 to Begin In Early 2015

Juan Eduardo Morales Veas (MoneyGreedandFear.com) suggests that both gold & silver will show renewed weakness to $900 & $15, respectively, in early 2015 before jumping dramatically in price by the end of 2016/early 2017 – to $3,500 and $90 respectively. His anticipation of renewed weakness has been correct to date but will his specific projections hold true? Below are the specific details (with charts). Read More »

3. Nouriel Roubini: Gold to Be Gutted! Here’s Why

Roubini expects gold will fall below $1,000/oz – a point not seen since 2007. No time frame is given.Read More »

4. Sinclair: Silver’s Rise Will Be Orgasmic; Gold Is a Buy Below $3,500

Jim Sinclair forecasts that gold will be roughly $4000-4500 by 2015-17 and, while silver will not reach $500, it certainly will see triple digits.

5. Authors Of “The Money Bubble” Foresee $10-12,000 Gold & $500 Silver – Here’s Why

James Turk and John Rubino argue that the price of gold is about to soar to $10-12,000/ozt. – and silver to $500/ozt. Here’s why.

6. Mark My Words: 2017 Will See A 31,000 Dow; $5,000 Gold; $125 Silver & Select PM Stocks Up 3,000%! Here’s Why

Larry Edelson maintains that once this pullback in the broad stock indices is over, the Dow Jones Industrial will lead the way higher yet again, and catapult to 31,000 over the next 3 years, with gold reaching $5,000, silver $125 and select individual stocks in the mining sector spinning off gains of 2,000%, 3,000% and even more.

No, I’m not out of my mind. Quite to the contrary, I believe I am the one analyst who really understands the forces that are building to enable such to occur. Read on to learn about my enviable track record over the years and specifically why such gains will be realized over the next three years.

7. Could a World of $7,000 Gold, $100 Silver & $400 Oil Be Coming?

Jim Rickards explains why a US dollar collapse could be coming and gold could emerge at the heart of a new global monetary system as the only money that you can really trust.

8. Jim Willie: Gold Will Rise to $5,000/ozt. and Beyond & Silver Will Rise Multiples Higher

Willie suggests that the world economic crisis has entered a new elevated level of perma-crisis and constant tension without either resolution or even the attempt to resolve anything and, as such, the price of gold will rise to $5,000 per troy ounce, then higher, and at the same time, the silver price will rise multiples higher.

Other Articles of Interest:

1. Only These 42 Analysts Dare Predict When – and At What Price – Gold Will Peak

There were no shortage of gold price pundits/prognosticators back in 2011 & 2012 claiming that gold would be going to “x” price by “y” date. Below is an updated list of those 42 pundits who were bold enough to provide a specific date as to when their forecast would be realized with their criteria & rationale supported by links to articles in which their determinations were first put forth.Read More »

2. The Future Price of Gold and the 2% Factor

It is my contention that the price of gold rallies whenever the U.S. dollar’s real short-term interest rate is below 2%, falls whenever the real short rate is above 2%, and holds steady at the equilibrium rate of 2%. Furthermore, for every one percentage point real rates differ from 2%, gold moves by eight times that amount per year. So if the real rates are at 1%, gold will move up at an 8% annualized rate. If real rates are at 0%, then gold will move up at a 16% rate (that’s been about the story for the past decade). Conversely, if the real rate jumps to 3%, then gold will drop at an 8% rate. [Let me explain.]

3. This Site Reveals the Performance of Financial Pundits – How Well Has Your Guy Done?

Recently I discovered a website which tracks pundits in finance (and politics and sports). Check it out to see how many of the calls and predictions of your favorite prognosticators have turned out to be true. You’ll be surprised and, no doubt, disappointed! Read More »

4. Noonan on Gold & Silver: “Odds favor retesting lower from here”

Every bottom undergoes a process of retesting but none is yet apparent in gold & silver. In the early part of 2014 we said that the second half could likely be more of the same as it was in 2013, and with just a few weeks away from the end of the year, prospects for 2015 can equally be brought into question regarding the price appreciation of gold and silver.

Noonan goes on to say in further edited excerpts:

Silver

Silver is not in a strong up-trending market, and that makes the likelihood of further retesting under 16 a greater possibility. It may not happen, but odds favor retesting lower from here.
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What we're gonna see......goes so much deeper, and will have far more long-lasting effects.

The doomsday warnings aren’t entirely different from views Ron Paul expressed as a member of Congress and presidential candidate, when he called for a return to the gold standard, abolishing the Fed and other libertarian policies to change the status quo. But the nationally broadcast ads are a high-profile reminder of how far his views are from those of mainstream economists, most of whom are projecting slow but steady growth for the U.S.

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Climbing will be more popular than surfing, skiing, and snowboarding in twenty years.