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johnr9q
Sport climber
Sacramento, Ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 6, 2006 - 11:11am PT
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Did anyone make a stink when the Forest Service closed the road from forest road 6 to near the main climbing area? Does anyone have an opinion if this was a good idea?
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Bilbo
Trad climber
Truckee
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The old goes through a small wetland and when it was wet, people would try to drive around it and make a bigger road ect ect...
That approach is cake and enjoyable.....
Why the question? Pissed? Just Curious?
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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So now you just walk from the fiberboard freeway?
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Bilbo
Trad climber
Truckee
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Yes, its been that way for a long time...Park right off 06, and hike for 20 mins.
With the number of cars you see there, probably a great idea...
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lost
climber
truckee
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Fiberboard freeway and the 06 are different roads, meeting up at hell's gate. I think it is great that they closed that poor road.
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johnr9q
Sport climber
Sacramento, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2006 - 01:22pm PT
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Bilbo: I did some inquiries with the Forest Service when they closed the road and the reasons they gave me was the Forest Service in general is in a mode to restrict vehicle access as much as possible (fire control, illegal camping, litter etc) also they said there was a archological site along the closed road (maybe some hunters back in the 30's burried some beer cans?) and erosion control problems as you mentioned. The Forest Service helped climbers by improving the access road into Phantom Spires at the creek crossing. They could have closed that road and made us walk in from the paved Wrights Lake Road. My concern is, seems like the Gov't agencies tend to be inclined to restrict access to recreation when what they need to be doing is encouraging access especially with the average American being significantely overweight and spending too much time indoors. (some might argue that closing the access road forces people to exercise more and I guess I don't have a response for that) Possibly there might be more people interested in climbing at Big Chief if the access road were still open. Just some thoughts but I know there are good arguments for and against the closure. Just wanted to see if there were any strong opinions our there. Before I posted this I ran a search on supertopos but found nothing on this issue. Maybe it predates supertopos.
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Bilbo
Trad climber
Truckee
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"My concern is, seems like the Gov't agencies tend to be inclined to restrict access to recreation"
I agree 100%.....I guess we need to pick our battles, some are worth fighting, some are not IMO. I kinda remember asking myself about that access road closure....then after doing the hike a few more times and seeing all the cars there, it seemed like a good thing, could actually keep crowds down if you have to hike?
I think its great you contacted them and asked questions, if they make decisions behind closed doors with our public lands, THE LEAST they can do is give some public statement WHY?
Climbers have it fairly easy.....I also ride and race dirtbikes and try to stay active with keeping areas open, talk about a challenge....When someone does something stupid they are quick to throw a closed sign up and call it good.
A side note: Peregrines are everywhere!! If you see them don't ask don't tell!
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atchafalaya
Trad climber
California
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"Possibly there might be more people interested in climbing at Big Chief if the access road were still open."
sounds like a good reason to keep the road closed.
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lost
climber
truckee
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How is closing down a short spur road restricting access? They are not preventing anyone from going there, walking that extra bit is quite nice. Keeping the central valley and the bay area outta the Sierra would be restricting access and something I am quite keen on.
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The Chieff
Trad climber
Kings Beach
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May 24, 2017 - 03:43pm PT
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Your obviously from down the hill. The approach is quite easy. You really don't have a good argument either. Already lots of people have the physical fitness to do the approach and climb at big chief. It is not a gym even though it climbs like one... a good one
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PolishClimber
Trad climber
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May 24, 2017 - 03:59pm PT
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I think you are roughly ten years late to the party in this thread.
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The Chieff
Trad climber
Kings Beach
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May 25, 2017 - 09:31am PT
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Better late than never.
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The Chieff
Trad climber
Kings Beach
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May 25, 2017 - 09:35am PT
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I was trying to find our if there are alternate routes for the approach. Due to the heavy snow season. A direct approach possibly from 89?
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Killer K
Boulder climber
Sacramento, CA
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May 25, 2017 - 03:54pm PT
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Crossing the river is the issue.
It's a slog and a half if you don't die crossing the river.
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Stewart Johnson
Mountain climber
lake forest
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May 25, 2017 - 06:15pm PT
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Wussies! hike up from the river! jeez theres a trail for fukcs sake.
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Killer K
Boulder climber
Sacramento, CA
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May 25, 2017 - 06:42pm PT
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Youre so cool!
I thought there was issues with private property crossing the river.
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Killer K
Boulder climber
Sacramento, CA
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May 25, 2017 - 11:34pm PT
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John is a good dude.
He once told me while he was belaying me that he has seizures. So if I looked down and he was flopping around just to hold on and he'd come around.
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johnr9q
Sport climber
Sacramento, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2017 - 07:09am PT
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As I've gotten older my seizure issue has become less of an issue thanks to the GriGri. (I hope I don't get taken thru the mud for not being politically correct regarding people with seizure issues). Less posting and more climbing.
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