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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 27, 2013 - 07:12am PT
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Would be great, but somewhat unlikely. Maybe a Golden.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 27, 2013 - 08:31am PT
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UNTIL HE HAS PIX, HIS fabrications ARE BIGGER THAN HE IS BIG AND HE'S BIG!
Super-moot.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 27, 2013 - 11:07am PT
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HaHaHa, Timid, you got that right. He'd get something along the lines of:
"Stevie Wonder could identify a Cali Condor!"
The retard obviously does not know that all condors have big-azzed
ugly numbers on their wings.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jun 27, 2013 - 11:30am PT
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There are only a couple of hundred condors in the wild, spread among a few areas. Highly unlikely a condor made it that far north. Not good news if it was a condor, because it reduces the likelihood of wild breeding, which has been relatively unsuccessful to date. They keep pretty close tabs on these birds. In my two trips to Pinnacles I have never seen one, but both times I saw rangers tracking them by radio. I heard condor beeps on the radio, as close as I got to meeeting one.
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Jun 27, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
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Unlikely. The guy seems to be going on size alone, which is not a very reliable criteria, unless you've got something of known size nearby for direct comparison. Both Bald and Golden Eagles are impressively large, dark raptors, and even a Turkey Vulture can look big. Plus no mention of tags, and the fact that all Cali Condors are being tracked better than Al Qaeda. That's going to be a hard sell, as already pointed out by the comments here and on the other blog
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 27, 2013 - 02:46pm PT
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I passed it on to my Raptor contact in WDFW and he said while Oregon does have a captive Condor breeding program and has been discussing local releases, none have been done and that it's probably a misidentification.
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TwistedCrank
climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
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Jun 27, 2013 - 03:07pm PT
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Send in the wolverines!
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Jun 27, 2013 - 03:14pm PT
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You never know, certainly possible, but there is nothing about this report to lend any credibility to it.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Jun 27, 2013 - 03:27pm PT
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Latourell Falls is a very popular spot right near the main Gorge road. There would have been 20 - 50 qualified people who would have noted a Condor. I'm with Mouse. Pictures or it didn't happen, every cell phone has one these days.
ps, my brother picked up a Yeti bone in Nepal. Right off the ground.....He says it's from a Yeti anyway.
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Macronut
Trad climber
Fresno, Ca
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Jun 27, 2013 - 03:39pm PT
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Just got back from the Grand Canyon where they have the highest density of condors in the country. Listen to talk (it was for the kids) where it talked about how often Turkey Vultures are most commonly confused as Condors. There are distinct differences such as the white feathers from the axilla down and the flight pattern with the vultures oscillating side to side in a v-pattern and the condor straight and steady. I am guessing most likely a turkey vulture!
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Jun 27, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
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Turkey vultures are beautiful and ethical creatures.
Never killing. Just waiting for death.
We should encourage sky-burials. More food for Condors.
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SalNichols
Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
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Jun 27, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
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I drove down to Morro Bay State Park to meet my family and a bunch of friends for a long weekend camping/eating thing. I got a late start out of Oakley and didn't arrive until about 0230. I found their cluster of campsites found a nice, strangely unoccupied, flat spot, tossed down my pad and ag and crashed. Kind of an odd, eucalyptus stench, but I was beat. All night I kept being pelted by god knows what, but it was darker than hell and I couldn't see sh$t...literally. A t first light I opened my eyes to discover that I was covered in digested road kill, I had camped under the local vulture roost.
You could have heard the screams in SLO.
And yes, I'm now one of the rare people that can identify vultures by the stench of ammonia.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Jun 27, 2013 - 05:46pm PT
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Here's todays rare bird story:
"Birdwatchers see rare swift killed by wind turbine"
WHAM
" Around 40 people were watching the White-throated Needletail, the world's fastest flying bird, on the Isles of Harris when the tragedy happened.
Sightings of the bird have only been recorded eight times in the UK in nearly 170 years, most recently in 1991, prompting around 80 ornithologists to visit the island in the hope of catching a glimpse.
David Campbell, from Surrey, told BBC Scotland the incident took place late on Wednesday afternoon. Speaking as he made his way home, he said: “We just watched the whole thing with dismay."
Josh Jones, of Bird Guides, a specialist website for ornithologists, said he had spoken to witnesses, who had seen the bird fly straight into one the turbine’s blades. "
Hmm, perhaps not Swift enough?
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Rock!...oopsie.
Trad climber
the pitch above you
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Jun 27, 2013 - 06:04pm PT
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Dang... that swift story walks the line between tragedy and comedy. There's definitely something of a monty python flavor to that scene.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 27, 2013 - 09:04pm PT
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They can lessen the bird kills but they sure can't eliminate them. A bird
going after prey has, in military pilot lingo, 'target fixation' and hasn't
evolved to be scanning for a large white thing slicing through the air.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Jun 27, 2013 - 10:21pm PT
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"the design of windmills and site selections has progressed significantly in accord with prevention of this occurance. you can bet that the mill which diced this poor guy was quite dated and doesnt represent anything built in the last 15 years. in a nutshell, they are now engineered to produce running at much lower rpm's"
Nope. This windmill looks to be >7 years old. Hard to say as they had multiple projects there. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5205430.stm
"Bird collisions
The Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB) has serious concerns for the rare bird populations living on the moor. It estimates that 50 golden eagles and between 100 and 250 red-throated divers could be killed by collisions with turbine rotor blades during the development's 25-year lifetime"
As far as current designs, the wind farms are still dropping birds. I'm talking brand new wind mills. It's been said repeatedly that there is no free lunch. Well, there's a 5 pitch version at Smith Rocks some buddies climbed last week.
The ones here in Oregon, including the brand new ones just installed in Eastern Oregon, regularly take out Golden Eagles and other birds.
There is no free lunch per Milton Freidman. 10 sec in. but the entire 1 min rant is apropo for the subject de jour. Limited government is important.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
More info can be had here Re: "Free Lunch" the climb. BTW, I was describing the loose rocks on it to my buddy, but I hadn't been on it for years. Buddy goes, "Oh, those will all be gone by now". LOL. They weren't. http://www.mountainproject.com/v/free-lunch/106361665
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jun 28, 2013 - 12:45am PT
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We need verification and documentation and photos....
aaand....it has to be by someone that the birding establishment already believes. Not just some yayhoo like myself.
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SalNichols
Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
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Jun 28, 2013 - 03:46am PT
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Tossed it Ron, it was un salvageable.
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Crazy Bat
Sport climber
Birmingham, AL & Seweanee, TN
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Jun 28, 2013 - 08:02am PT
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Dont know about Oregon, but I was lucky enough to see what they call a wild Cali condor near Big Sur. I know it was one because it flew over my Ford Ranger and its wingspan was longer that my truck. It didnt have any big nasty numbers on its wing. I wasnt sure until I attended the Grand Canyon talk.
I was awed and I live with Mcaws.
Fish and Wildlife will not verify a sighting unless two qualified people see the bird. I found that out after I spotted a Red Cocaded Woodpecker.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 28, 2013 - 11:14am PT
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in a nutshell, they are now engineered to produce running at much lower rpm's
Coming down I-5, forget where, exactly, but near Sacto, there sat the biggest turbine whirling at such reduced speed that it kind of made me want to stop and photograph it. I did not, but it looked about so.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 28, 2013 - 11:57am PT
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Bat, I would not be as surprised to see a Red-cockaded in Tennessee as I
would be to see a Cali Condor in Oregon. Of course, it could be confused
by a noob with a Downy but only a moron could mistake a Condor, eh?
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