Half Dome spring concession at last!

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donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 6, 2013 - 04:09pm PT
After five years of negotiations I have finally come to terms with the NPS on a concession for the spring at the base of Half Dome.
In return for improvements designed to protect the Red Spotted Toad and for developing a website with up to date flow information I will be permitted to charge a user fee- amount of which is still under negotiation.
Improvements, website and fee structure should all be in place for the 2014 climbing season.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Jun 6, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
$97.52 per liter sounds about right.

Do you get to build some tent cabins on the HD shoulder for your concession employees? 'Cause I might be lookin for a job soon.
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Jun 6, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
Will the water now have healing properties? Can I bathe in it?
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Jun 6, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
Yay!

I look forward to meeting you....
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jun 6, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
The next things to line up are putting in a convenience store and a pizza place.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 6, 2013 - 05:02pm PT
will you provide rock-fall protection too?

I hear the red spots clear up after a while...
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jun 6, 2013 - 05:07pm PT
Pipe it up the wall for on demand drinking. Add in a vodka pipe while you're at it.

DMT
orle

climber
Jun 6, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
Hell, add in any kind of pipe at all
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jun 6, 2013 - 05:24pm PT
so can we have a sushifest up there now?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jun 6, 2013 - 05:24pm PT
Yous guys are totally missing where Jim is really going with this.
The real money will come when he gets ordained and can start doing baptisms.
Reverend James' Tis-Sa-ack Temple of the True Spirit (that's a hint for Cosmic or Peter Hahn)
TrundleBum

Trad climber
Las Vegas
Jun 6, 2013 - 06:48pm PT

Uncle:
Is it true that water from the spring is free, but there is a permitting fee to consider?

N' the use permit, is there a fee schedule depending on how much of the muck your willing to sustain in your water bottle ?
I heard those with MSR or some such, water filters pay a premium fee for the free water ?
TrundleBum

Trad climber
Las Vegas
Jun 6, 2013 - 06:49pm PT

Reverend James' Tis-Sa-ack Temple of the True Spirit (that's a hint for Cosmic or Peter Hahn)

Phone call was just made !
Barbarian

climber
Jun 6, 2013 - 07:14pm PT
I don't want to be baptized....I just want to be healed. I have climbing fever!
steveA

Trad climber
bedford,massachusetts
Jun 6, 2013 - 07:51pm PT
Jim,

I wonder what gave you the idea for this thread? Ha, Ha
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 6, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
I heard its gone rancid,, to many hikers peeing up hill..Said to have a "twang" to it...
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jun 6, 2013 - 10:23pm PT

James, I'll send you some money so I can
be apart of this!
wink wink. . .
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Jun 6, 2013 - 10:35pm PT
"(that's a hint for Cosmic or Peter Hahn) "





Cosmic has retired.
ST wasn't paying me enough to do Manips.

And with the all, New, Puritanical ST,
I'd probably get deactivated.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jun 6, 2013 - 10:52pm PT
Donini the Climbtist

DMT
rurprider

Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:31am PT
Damn....and I thought Ron Kauk had the sole concessionaire ship on all those springs.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:34am PT
You can offer two kinds of water:

1. With mud $1.00 a bottle

2. No MUD $5.00 a bottle

Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Jun 7, 2013 - 01:11am PT
you suck
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Jun 7, 2013 - 01:23am PT

Credit: Cosmiccragsman
Blakey

Trad climber
Sierra Vista
Jun 7, 2013 - 07:17am PT
When I did the RNWF in 96 with three mates, we were told, prior to the hike that the stream was 'flowing'. Accordingly we hiked up with pretty much empty bottles, planning to fill at the base.

We arrived in the dark and found the 'spring' which was a small muddy pool.
With no option we rigged an ad hoc filter using two pairs of our (used) socks. It took a couple of hours but we eventually managed to fill our bottles with a grey murky and slightly greasy liquid that passed for H20. It had an unusual salty edge to it.

The socks, one thick, one thin (see we had thought it through) worked quite well - only one of us was sick, and heck - he might have been sick anyway.......

When dawn broke, we of course found the correct spring, up and left of where we bivi'd, but by then we couldn't face unpacking and dicarding our laboriously won gloop.

Such fun!

Steve
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jun 7, 2013 - 10:49am PT
Cosmic hits it out of the park again!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jun 7, 2013 - 10:52am PT
HaHaHaHaHa!!!!!! An all-time classic!
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Jun 7, 2013 - 10:55am PT
I hope you are going to donate at least 1% of you profits to help the starving in third world counties like Texas.
JerryA

Mountain climber
Sacramento,CA
Jun 7, 2013 - 11:23am PT
Why not rebuild La Casa Nevada ,Albert & Emily Snow's 10 bedroom chalet that stood at the base of Nevada Falls from 1870 to 1900 ? Trads would not have to stay near the riff raff in the Valley.
Barbarian

climber
Jun 7, 2013 - 11:43am PT
I hope you are going to donate at least 1% of you profits to help the starving in third world counties like Texas.

Naw...just give 'em some of that mud to wallow in...
franky

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Jun 7, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
I demand full NEPA compliance for this project. I will have a lot to say during public scoping. don't expect that water booth to be open anytime soon. I also expect a minimum tool analysis given that it will be in wildernes, this seems like a pretty significant trammel. i would expect a liter of water to be more like $150 after the legal fees.
steveA

Trad climber
bedford,massachusetts
Jun 7, 2013 - 02:30pm PT
Cosmic,

Your VERY creative. Another Sheridan Anderson!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
Thanks Steve.

Sheridon and Ouch are the Masters though.
Paul B

Big Wall climber
Sheffield, UK
Jun 17, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
Will the 'stall' still be open this week?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jun 17, 2013 - 07:26pm PT
I'm with you, Franky.

Cheap dudes like me aren't paying a nickel for WATER THAT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE; and isn't it still illegal to remove, collect, or offer for sale any rocks, plants, animals, OR WATER in National Parks, BTW? Why would they sanction a rootless wandervogel like you to run something so lucrative?

And you can't prevent parties hauling up their own water, either, Jim, unless you hire a gang.

In fact, if you get this concession, which will require God-knows-what paperwork and baksheesh, I'm still willing to do all that paperwork and to spend big bucks to initiate a concession to sell Fern Spring Water in those teeny little green bottles!! And NO FIZZ!!

5-cent CRV in Yosemite, too.

You'll need a more appealing ruse than healing, too. Baptism's great and all, but you need special tools for the healing. Good thing butt plugs are cheaper by the dozen...
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