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McCfly
climber
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May 25, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
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Don't eat animals..
Buy local produce when it is in season..
Eat organic only food 99.9% of the time..
Keep the heat low skip the AC
My climbing stuff is about all i really own other than a car kinda own a house but not really..
recycle..
High efficiency heating system. Converting from oil to natural gas..
Same for hot water. I know i know much more i could do in regard to household utilities...
Use as little water as possible other than for drinking and growing..
Turn off light behind me...
Find things to stimulate me that require little in the way of material possessions. Climbing, art, meditation, yoga, reading, so forth and so on. I used to like stuff like allot. Now i mindfully resist most of it other than climbing gear...
Sure i could think of others as much of it just come down to a matter of perspective.
Also think i should add is most of what i do is for selfish reasons as this has just come to be the way i enjoy living.
Ow yeah no kids but that mostly i would be a shitty parent. Convenient that it works in favor of my desire to take less..
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Erik
Trad climber
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May 25, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
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Not having kids is probably the single most important thing anyone can do at this point to save the Earth.
Not that it really matters in the long run anyway -- I'm sure that ten or a hundred million years from now the earth will have fully recovered from the cancerous scourge known as homo sapiens sapiens that was directly responsible for its last great extinction event.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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May 25, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
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I don't know about the whole not having kids argument.
Obviously overpopulation is THE big issue. But what is the better solution: 1) semi-intelligent people who would raise a fairly conscientious child or two with the hope of making the world a better place, or 2) letting the next generation be dominated by the offspring of ignorant fuktards?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 25, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
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I have been hyper-miling since i started driving...I've been pulled over by the PMFers for driving too slow...I was coasting down this hill on hwy. 6 into Bishop recently when some guy with an 84 IQ on a dirt bike went rocketing by me....He must have been in denial and doing a hundred...?
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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May 25, 2013 - 06:57pm PT
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That's funny. I've been pulled over twice driving from Big Pine to Bishop going too slow. I wasn't even hyper-miling.....just hyper mellow! I even got pulled over once near Tutle creek for driving out of state.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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May 25, 2013 - 11:09pm PT
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Not having kids is a bad idea. Take a look at countries with a negative growth rate, not good. You can have sustainable families, responsible people tend to have responsible kids. We need fresh meet to pay for our Medicare an Social Security
Hey mechrist - I think I have a Vetter fairing in my attic that was on a 1985 BMW RS650, you are welcome to it, where are you
Reduce, Reuse, Recycle
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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May 25, 2013 - 11:30pm PT
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awesome thread
My last VW JETTA diesel,4 fillups of biodiesel b80 ,round trip steamboat colorado to near rochester,ny.,carbon reduction from all ready relatively clean burning low sulphur diesel ,80%.hypermiling ,cruise controlled, ski trip luxury.48.5 MPG AVG.
Near carbon neutral
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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May 25, 2013 - 11:42pm PT
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I preach about environmental consciousness and promote a green lifestyle. I then I hop in my private jet to head across the country for the weekend. Oh wait...I dont have a jet but it seems to be what the majority of our politicians and celebs heros do.
Joking aside, I try to eat foods that are not packaged, drive a high mpg car, buy produce local when in season/available, be conscious of all electricity and gas use etc . The no processed/pre-packaged food philosophy also seems to lead to health eating.
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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May 25, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
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^^^I put my water heater on a timer so it only comes on in the AM and PM. It sits idle all day and most of the night. Seems to work well.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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May 26, 2013 - 01:29am PT
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I'm buying up, by your standards, vast tracts of land and fencing them to keep the likes of you off. I thin the trees to keep the fuel load down (so as not to release huge quantities of co2 in a disastrous fire) and shoot all varmints that are overpopulated to keep the ecosystem in balance. I drive one of my fleet of eco boost 3/4 ton ford diesels way the hell back and gone then wash the dust off in my nonsubsidized solar assisted hot water system shower. I didn't have my nuts cut off, and if my wife was still fertile would love to have more children who i would make damn sure were educated to a high degree and have enough ambition to never be like you.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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May 26, 2013 - 07:36am PT
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I think the folks here that consider not having children as a way to help fight 'global warming' should stick with this idea and not contribute to the gene pool.
While we contribute in a minuscule way to depleting our ozone, this is not the reason for increased annual temperatures throughout the planet. 'Global warming' is not caused by anything mankind is doing and there is absolutely nothing we can do to change this global cycle. Deal.
Ride a motorcycle or bicycle, sell your tv, recycle, keep your carbon footprint to a minimum because that is conservation, not because of a myth.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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May 26, 2013 - 08:27am PT
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What am I doing?
I vote anti-republican
Buy carbon offsets when I can
When driving, I coast in neutral as much as possible (lots of hills here)
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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May 26, 2013 - 09:25am PT
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way to be Harry.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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May 26, 2013 - 09:37am PT
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I think the folks here that consider not having children as a way to help fight 'global warming' should stick with this idea and not contribute to the gene pool.
Population control is the only solution that is going to work.
Everything else that we do is irrelevant unless the population can be controlled.
You wanna talk about environmentalism? Cliimate change? Hunger? It's all about population control and everything else is fluff.
Yeah, I can feel good about using less gasoline, but it's like spitting on a forest fire and congratulating yourself for helping to control the flames.
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2013 - 10:29am PT
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Great to see all the things people are doing and hopefully giving other people ideas of what else they can do that they aren't.
Good point about population control.
Empowering Women has proven to be the most effective way to control how many children they have.
Societies that educate and treat thier women with respect illustrate that point. The women choose to have fewer children.
Living in the Philippines this past year I have seen families with 8-10 children on a daily basis (regardless if they have the resources to support such a family). One reason is lack of education (if you can't afford to go to school you don't go to school...thier is public school but you do have to pay for materials, clothing, transportation to the school--and most families can't afford to pay so school becomes what the "wealthy" kids do.
Same thing with birth control (it is predominantly a Catholic country where I am living but has some islands that are Muslim). Birth control is expensive here (condoms cost more than the average family can afford).
They love and have respect for the women in the Philippines but the men seem to control the money---and property---(my experience and opinion but could be wrong).
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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May 26, 2013 - 10:55am PT
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Empowering Women has proven to be the most effective way to control how many children they have.
You hit the nail on the head. Global empowerment of women is one of the most important tasks of the 21st Century, and is the only way to control population growth.
Then we must work on separating church and state so that people actually have choices in their lives - like chosing to use birth control.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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May 26, 2013 - 11:22am PT
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Pud, the earth is also flat.
The 'we are having smart, sustainable kids to save the planet' is total BS. I have watched my freidns with kids immediately dump all pretense of limited consumption as soon as the kids pop out. Everything is for the kids. Huge suv? Buy it. $1000 monthly trips to Costco? Do it. Expensive daycare that happens to accoss town? Drive it. Plastic sh#t to keep them happy for a day. Get it. Didn't used to watch TV, but if makes them shut up for 20 minutes. ...
Americans replicating themselves is the worst thing one can do for the planet.... and what a sh#t show of a planet they are being handed.
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2013 - 11:23am PT
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That's awesome Chris!!! The technology for solar cells exists in so many different forms it is unbelievable (solar films on windows, solar paint on cars etc. etc.)
thanks for SUPERTOPO GOING SOLAR!!!
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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May 26, 2013 - 11:27am PT
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it seems to be what the majority of our politicians and celebs heros do.
You have celeb heros?
Global warming' is not caused by anything mankind is doing and there is absolutely nothing we can do to change this global cycle. Deal.
Wrong.
I really enjoyed using these for teaching. They show just how much we rely on fossil fuels and how those fossil fuels are used. Transportation is the HUGE emitter, along with electricity from coal.
Better infrastructure is key. Places like the Salt Lake Valley have absolutely atrocious infrastructure! Impossible for the average citizen to go ANYWHERE without a car, except for those in select neighborhoods.
It also shows how little solar, wind, and geothermal we use.
Anyone done research on biomass? It is carbon neutral on a reasonable time scale (30 yrs), unlike any of the fossil fuels which release vast amounts of carbon that have been stored for millions of years. As Dick pointed out, clearing biomass from forests helps reduce the impact of large fires. Anyone know places where the FS offers up those ugly fuel piles for firewood?
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