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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 13, 2013 - 11:07pm PT
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It was a close one, couldn't walk more than 10' for about a day, but he pulled through! Discussing it with the vet, it sounded like either organ failure, an obstruction, or an infection of some sort.
Xray showed no obstruction.
Treatment for organ failure at his age sounded like eternal rest. (Any other opinions? Set me straight if I'm wrong)
Treatment for an infection was antibionics. That appears to be working!
Only problem is I don't think he will go back to his regular food now that he has had grass fed ground beef for the last 3 days.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Apr 13, 2013 - 11:11pm PT
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Only problem is I don't think he will go back to his regular food now that he has had grass fed ground beef for the last 3 day
Easy - teach him how to attack free range cows!
My Aussie does it all the time!
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2013 - 11:11pm PT
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He's a magical Uniwoodhorn dog.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Apr 13, 2013 - 11:16pm PT
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He's a great looking dog! Teddy was almost taken down too and it turned out to be an infection which antibiotics fixed.
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rincon
Trad climber
SoCal
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Apr 13, 2013 - 11:28pm PT
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Go Willie!
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bentelbow
climber
spud state
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Apr 13, 2013 - 11:40pm PT
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matlinb
Trad climber
Albuquerque
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Apr 13, 2013 - 11:56pm PT
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Glad you dogs got a few more days. I read a book once Merle's Door: Lessons from a Freethinking Dog. A great read.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Apr 14, 2013 - 12:21am PT
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Good stuff Wes, glad ur pooch is ok. That second photo is awesome.
I've been feeding my dog raw food for about 3 years & it really makes a difference in her coat, energy level & size of her dumps(much smaller with no kibble). I'm sure your local pet stores got a freezer in the back & the cost isn't much higher, the tricky part is just getting a rotation going. I feed my dog 1/2 lb per meal & buy 1 lb packs so it is easy to always have one thawing in the fridge & one she is eating that day. Good luck.
Edit- costwise it's a bit more $$ but not much & ur dog stays around longer which u can't really put a price tag on.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 14, 2013 - 02:13am PT
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Oooh, yer such a good little mutt, ye fertilizing coyote!
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splitter
Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane ~:~
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Apr 14, 2013 - 02:46am PT
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Good to hear that Willie is doing much better. Cragman's dog had a similar reaction to something a while back, didn't (or couldn't) move for a day or two, and came back strong the next day. Dogs are tough.
any other opinions? just to continue loving him and keeping a close eye on him. :)
edit: Cragman's thread is called "Dog's and strokes??? We're holding vigil with our boy...." (Jan 22, 2013) Perhaps it has some useful info!!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 14, 2013 - 03:12am PT
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Apr 14, 2013 - 10:15am PT
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hey there say, weschrist/mechrist... whewww...
glad to here that the ol' pupdog is going well now...
some of us can't feed our dogs this way, but glad you can...
prayers for many more happy days for you, and all adventures...
:)
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couchmaster
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pdx
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Apr 14, 2013 - 11:48am PT
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Good looking dog. I'd say any dog that would stick with you Wes deserves free range fair trade beef daily. LOL
Seriously, a good dog is one of the greatest things on this planet, glad Wilie is feeling better.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
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I'd say any dog that would stick with you Wes deserves free range fair trade beef daily.
Actually, he would rarely stick with me. He would more often disappear for 3-16 hours on expeditions, usually in the middle of the desert. There were occasional sighting, but only from great distances. I'm actually shocked he made it this long... after disappearing towards a pack of howling coyotes at 11pm in the middle of NV, only to return happy as could be at 3am. Or getting bit by a rattle snake at 10 months old in Sinks. Or moving at the last second to catch a 40 lb rock in the ass rather than the head. Or.........
We established an agreement early on... he could live his life to the fullest, as long as he didn't hold me responsible for his poor choices... and he had to help carry some of my field gear on occasion (which meant ONCE).
And help me sample stream water
It was a tough job, but he managed
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Apr 14, 2013 - 01:51pm PT
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You might try AvoDerm or Pinnacle. One of my dogs would rather starve than eat something she doesn't like. The other one will starve if he doesn't eat NOW, at least that's what he says. They both like Avoderm & Pinnacle.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2013 - 02:01pm PT
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Dan, your dog had issues recently as I recall. Hope it turned out okay. My sister's Rotty died from an autoimmune disease. It was really sad. We felt helpless.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Apr 14, 2013 - 02:59pm PT
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Glad your Willie is standing strong!
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
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It is tough. You never really know how bad it hurts or where it hurts! He was so miserable the other night he would not come in the house. After not eating for 48 hours (including pork, grass fed beef, chicken, rice, cottage cheese, anything and everything) and not being able to stand on his own we thought it might be time to put him down. I hooked him up with some doggy narcotics and slept next to him... almost called for the injection he seemed so pathetic... thank god I didn't.
When I was caring for my dad he begged several times to be "put down" and you could see it in his eyes, he was serious. Part of me thought I owed it to my old man. Ironic eh... we do it with pets, sometimes without really knowing if it is right, but we can't legally do it with humans when they are 90lbs of skin and bones and begging for it. Hey coz, how's that for a daddy issue? ;)
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Captain...or Skully
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Apr 14, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
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That's just balance Ron.
I'm more interested in the "antibionics". We could've used those on Steve Austin.
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craig mo
Trad climber
L.A. Ca.
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Apr 14, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
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good for your willie. can you help with mine
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2013 - 05:31pm PT
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hmmm, your Willie doesn't seem to be shedding many blocks... and it appears to be in SoCal... sorry, you will have to find someone else.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2013 - 05:16am PT
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But it's safe to say, people are put down all the time, with a heavy dose of pain meds, when the doctor and family can't stand it any longer, but no one ever talks about it.
No doubt. Tough choice... could have done it 5 years earlier when it first got bad, but 5 years is a long time... maybe too long after a couple strokes and horrible pain from the chemo. Who the fuk knows...
Hope I die before I get old... but not too much before
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 22, 2013 - 10:42pm PT
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In retrospect...
A week after switching Willie's food he got really sick. He wouldn't move or eat for 48 hours... wouldn't even eat treats or part of my pork taco. We (the vet and I) figured it may be an infection or obstruction. Nothing on the Xray. He got better after 4 days on antibiotics and grass-fed beef with rice. He started eating his dog food again with beef broth a couple days ago and got really sick again, same symptoms. Two days off the dog food and he is roaming like Willie should again.
We are almost certain it is Nature's Domain Beef and Sweet Potato dog food from Costco. It is supposed to be good kibble. Both our dogs seemed to do fine on the Grain-Free Salmon and Sweet Potato food for the last year. Could be a food allergy? Or a bad batch?
I feel so bad.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Apr 22, 2013 - 10:51pm PT
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Teddy got sick this summer and the only thing I could point it to was the dog food(kibble). It was Merrick, which is a very good brand, but I couldn't help but wonder, and there was just no way I could bring myself to "test it" again. He had been barfing and at times would sit down and couldn't/wouldn't walk. It seemed like e was having gastro pains, though a dog hides it well - the soldiers that they are.
I called the company and told them the story, they gave no indication they had been having any trouble with their kibbles, but told me to take it back to the store fora refund.
Having paid $15 a bag, I did take it back to the store, and told them the story. I said "I have always trusted Merrick, but SOMETHING is making my dog sick, and when I took him off this kibble, he got better."I was hoping they'd take note, mark the package and have the rep pick it up or send back. But it seemed more like the guy was just irritated with me for returning an opened bag of dog food which couldn't be resold.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Apr 22, 2013 - 10:52pm PT
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Where is that dog food made? China by any chance?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 22, 2013 - 11:25pm PT
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Still seems to dig the salmon version, which he has been eating for a couple years. He seemed unimpressed with the last bag of salmon, which is why we tried the beef. No way he is getting anything from the beef bag... I'm keeping it for evidence!
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2013 - 11:01pm PT
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Yo, Willie can't eat legumes! He has seemed inches from death (have to carry him out to poop while he drools) 3 times. When he was sick we would feed him beef and rice and sweet potatoes (same thing I eat). He would get better and we would try a new food, taking our best guess at what the evil ingredient might be. FINALLY figured out it was garbanzo beans and/or peas.
He is on new kibble without that stuff in it. He is up and about, running wild for hours at a time again and getting super excited about treats.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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May 25, 2013 - 11:46pm PT
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You seem to have a knack for figuring out what single ingredient is in a food stuff that is causing problems….
Cheers for the dog, good for the owner
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splitter
Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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May 26, 2013 - 09:45am PT
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Three cheers for Willie, glad to here he is feeilng much better!
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2013 - 11:42am PT
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Word Jingy, that's my thing! I don't eat anything without reading the ingredients... that now applies to my dogs... one is allergic to chicken, the other to legumes.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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May 26, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
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Word Jingy, that's my thing! I don't eat anything without reading the ingredients... that now applies to my dogs
There's an ingredient list on your dogs?
That aside, it's good to hear that Willie is doing better.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2013 - 12:24pm PT
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ha... pre-coffee
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