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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 13, 2013 - 08:07pm PT
It was a close one, couldn't walk more than 10' for about a day, but he pulled through! Discussing it with the vet, it sounded like either organ failure, an obstruction, or an infection of some sort.

Xray showed no obstruction.

Treatment for organ failure at his age sounded like eternal rest. (Any other opinions? Set me straight if I'm wrong)

Treatment for an infection was antibionics. That appears to be working!

Only problem is I don't think he will go back to his regular food now that he has had grass fed ground beef for the last 3 days.

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locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Apr 13, 2013 - 08:09pm PT


Willie has a dead tree growing out of his head...

Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Apr 13, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
Only problem is I don't think he will go back to his regular food now that he has had grass fed ground beef for the last 3 day

Easy - teach him how to attack free range cows!

My Aussie does it all the time!

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
He's a magical Uniwoodhorn dog.


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MisterE

Social climber
Apr 13, 2013 - 08:12pm PT
Good to hear - couldn't help the double entendre:

happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Apr 13, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
He's a great looking dog! Teddy was almost taken down too and it turned out to be an infection which antibiotics fixed.
rincon

Trad climber
SoCal
Apr 13, 2013 - 08:28pm PT
Go Willie!
bentelbow

climber
spud state
Apr 13, 2013 - 08:40pm PT
Good to hear he is on the up. This is Bodi, my best bud for 12 years
Good to hear he is on the up. This is Bodi, my best bud for 12 years
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coz

Gym climber
Belmont
Apr 13, 2013 - 08:47pm PT
Great News, Brother!

Glad it worked out.

And your Willie is thriving again.
matlinb

Trad climber
Albuquerque
Apr 13, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
Glad you dogs got a few more days. I read a book once Merle's Door: Lessons from a Freethinking Dog. A great read.
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Apr 13, 2013 - 09:21pm PT
Good stuff Wes, glad ur pooch is ok. That second photo is awesome.

I've been feeding my dog raw food for about 3 years & it really makes a difference in her coat, energy level & size of her dumps(much smaller with no kibble). I'm sure your local pet stores got a freezer in the back & the cost isn't much higher, the tricky part is just getting a rotation going. I feed my dog 1/2 lb per meal & buy 1 lb packs so it is easy to always have one thawing in the fridge & one she is eating that day. Good luck.

Edit- costwise it's a bit more $$ but not much & ur dog stays around longer which u can't really put a price tag on.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 13, 2013 - 10:01pm PT
Excellent news Wes..Good fer Willy!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 13, 2013 - 11:13pm PT
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Oooh, yer such a good little mutt, ye fertilizing coyote!
moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Apr 13, 2013 - 11:14pm PT
Free Willie!
splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane ~:~
Apr 13, 2013 - 11:46pm PT
Good to hear that Willie is doing much better. Cragman's dog had a similar reaction to something a while back, didn't (or couldn't) move for a day or two, and came back strong the next day. Dogs are tough.
any other opinions?
just to continue loving him and keeping a close eye on him. :)

edit: Cragman's thread is called "Dog's and strokes??? We're holding vigil with our boy...." (Jan 22, 2013) Perhaps it has some useful info!!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 14, 2013 - 12:12am PT
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neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Apr 14, 2013 - 07:15am PT
hey there say, weschrist/mechrist... whewww...
glad to here that the ol' pupdog is going well now...

some of us can't feed our dogs this way, but glad you can...

prayers for many more happy days for you, and all adventures...
:)
eKat

Mountain climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
Apr 14, 2013 - 07:44am PT
Such a beautiful little beast!

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couchmaster

climber
pdx
Apr 14, 2013 - 08:48am PT
Good looking dog. I'd say any dog that would stick with you Wes deserves free range fair trade beef daily. LOL

Seriously, a good dog is one of the greatest things on this planet, glad Wilie is feeling better.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2013 - 10:40am PT
I'd say any dog that would stick with you Wes deserves free range fair trade beef daily.

Actually, he would rarely stick with me. He would more often disappear for 3-16 hours on expeditions, usually in the middle of the desert. There were occasional sighting, but only from great distances. I'm actually shocked he made it this long... after disappearing towards a pack of howling coyotes at 11pm in the middle of NV, only to return happy as could be at 3am. Or getting bit by a rattle snake at 10 months old in Sinks. Or moving at the last second to catch a 40 lb rock in the ass rather than the head. Or.........

We established an agreement early on... he could live his life to the fullest, as long as he didn't hold me responsible for his poor choices... and he had to help carry some of my field gear on occasion (which meant ONCE).

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And help me sample stream water

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It was a tough job, but he managed
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Chim-Chim

climber
Apr 14, 2013 - 10:50am PT
Wes, glad your pooch is doing well! Dan
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Apr 14, 2013 - 10:51am PT
You might try AvoDerm or Pinnacle. One of my dogs would rather starve than eat something she doesn't like. The other one will starve if he doesn't eat NOW, at least that's what he says. They both like Avoderm & Pinnacle.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2013 - 11:01am PT
Dan, your dog had issues recently as I recall. Hope it turned out okay. My sister's Rotty died from an autoimmune disease. It was really sad. We felt helpless.
Chim-Chim

climber
Apr 14, 2013 - 11:39am PT
Thanks Wes, we took Auggie toa different vet for a second opinion. Further tests don't necessarily, point to autoimmune disease. Auggie may have a con-genetal defect in his blood. He's always been real mellow and after an interveiw with the vet in addition to the new test results we really aren't sure what going on, but Auggie is bouncing around quite well so we're happy to see him feeling so well. His red blood cell count is still falling. He's completely over the vet stuff, his kind of a real poodle at times. Thanks for asking about our boy. Dan
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 14, 2013 - 11:46am PT
Dan,, you MIGHT call Sierra Vertinary clinic in Carson. They are quite advanced in some areas! Hope your pooch continues on in a long life!
coz

Gym climber
Belmont
Apr 14, 2013 - 11:47am PT
Wes,

My dog Rio sounds like the same kind of animal, he was a Queensland healer mixes, never required any training, never did any tricks, just stayed by my side and picked fights with coyotes, and pretty much kick ass, and was dam happy after.

Anyway, towards the end of his life he lived to be 16-17, we decided to give him the best food possible and he had a real similar reaction, as the one you're describing with Willie.

The vet suggested not to give him such food, as his system could no longer handle it, so we went back to regular dog food and he was fine until the end, when we had to put him down, tough day.

Anyway, I'm no vet just my experiences, hope it goes well, PM if you want more of the story.

SC.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Apr 14, 2013 - 11:59am PT
Glad your Willie is standing strong!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
It is tough. You never really know how bad it hurts or where it hurts! He was so miserable the other night he would not come in the house. After not eating for 48 hours (including pork, grass fed beef, chicken, rice, cottage cheese, anything and everything) and not being able to stand on his own we thought it might be time to put him down. I hooked him up with some doggy narcotics and slept next to him... almost called for the injection he seemed so pathetic... thank god I didn't.

When I was caring for my dad he begged several times to be "put down" and you could see it in his eyes, he was serious. Part of me thought I owed it to my old man. Ironic eh... we do it with pets, sometimes without really knowing if it is right, but we can't legally do it with humans when they are 90lbs of skin and bones and begging for it. Hey coz, how's that for a daddy issue? ;)
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 14, 2013 - 12:08pm PT
BTDT, on all occasions. Poisons exist all over, like antifreeze- which dogs and cats commonly get into. Rancid meats are another gawdawful thing for pets to find.

One of my main questions ill have when i hit my spirit world is WHY do dogs age seven to one on years.. TOTAL BS!!!!!
Captain...or Skully

climber
Apr 14, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
That's just balance Ron.
I'm more interested in the "antibionics". We could've used those on Steve Austin.
craig mo

Trad climber
L.A. Ca.
Apr 14, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
good for your willie. can you help with mine
willie
willie
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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2013 - 02:31pm PT
hmmm, your Willie doesn't seem to be shedding many blocks... and it appears to be in SoCal... sorry, you will have to find someone else.
coz

Gym climber
Belmont
Apr 14, 2013 - 08:43pm PT
I went through the same thing with my Dad, he was in so much pain, but luckily he went quietly in his sleep.

My Dad love his dogs too, something about that true love of a dog, that blows me away.

I think we can't put people down because it's very tricky, and a very complex issue once you get into the grey issues. The stuff between black and white knee jerk reactions.

But it's safe to say, people are put down all the time, with a heavy dose of pain meds, when the doctor and family can't stand it any longer, but no one ever talks about it.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2013 - 02:16am PT
But it's safe to say, people are put down all the time, with a heavy dose of pain meds, when the doctor and family can't stand it any longer, but no one ever talks about it.

No doubt. Tough choice... could have done it 5 years earlier when it first got bad, but 5 years is a long time... maybe too long after a couple strokes and horrible pain from the chemo. Who the fuk knows...

Hope I die before I get old... but not too much before
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 22, 2013 - 07:42pm PT
In retrospect...

A week after switching Willie's food he got really sick. He wouldn't move or eat for 48 hours... wouldn't even eat treats or part of my pork taco. We (the vet and I) figured it may be an infection or obstruction. Nothing on the Xray. He got better after 4 days on antibiotics and grass-fed beef with rice. He started eating his dog food again with beef broth a couple days ago and got really sick again, same symptoms. Two days off the dog food and he is roaming like Willie should again.

We are almost certain it is Nature's Domain Beef and Sweet Potato dog food from Costco. It is supposed to be good kibble. Both our dogs seemed to do fine on the Grain-Free Salmon and Sweet Potato food for the last year. Could be a food allergy? Or a bad batch?

I feel so bad.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Apr 22, 2013 - 07:51pm PT
Teddy got sick this summer and the only thing I could point it to was the dog food(kibble). It was Merrick, which is a very good brand, but I couldn't help but wonder, and there was just no way I could bring myself to "test it" again. He had been barfing and at times would sit down and couldn't/wouldn't walk. It seemed like e was having gastro pains, though a dog hides it well - the soldiers that they are.

I called the company and told them the story, they gave no indication they had been having any trouble with their kibbles, but told me to take it back to the store fora refund.

Having paid $15 a bag, I did take it back to the store, and told them the story. I said "I have always trusted Merrick, but SOMETHING is making my dog sick, and when I took him off this kibble, he got better."I was hoping they'd take note, mark the package and have the rep pick it up or send back. But it seemed more like the guy was just irritated with me for returning an opened bag of dog food which couldn't be resold.
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Apr 22, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
Where is that dog food made? China by any chance?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 22, 2013 - 08:05pm PT
Seems logical wes, try new foods.. Sorry to hear of the problems return...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 22, 2013 - 08:25pm PT
Still seems to dig the salmon version, which he has been eating for a couple years. He seemed unimpressed with the last bag of salmon, which is why we tried the beef. No way he is getting anything from the beef bag... I'm keeping it for evidence!
troutbreath

climber
Kanada
Apr 22, 2013 - 08:44pm PT
http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/SafetyHealth/ProductSafetyInformation/ucm319463.htm

Made my Pug mighty sick.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2013 - 08:01pm PT
Yo, Willie can't eat legumes! He has seemed inches from death (have to carry him out to poop while he drools) 3 times. When he was sick we would feed him beef and rice and sweet potatoes (same thing I eat). He would get better and we would try a new food, taking our best guess at what the evil ingredient might be. FINALLY figured out it was garbanzo beans and/or peas.

He is on new kibble without that stuff in it. He is up and about, running wild for hours at a time again and getting super excited about treats.

Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
May 25, 2013 - 08:46pm PT
You seem to have a knack for figuring out what single ingredient is in a food stuff that is causing problems….


Cheers for the dog, good for the owner
splitter

Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
May 26, 2013 - 06:45am PT
Three cheers for Willie, glad to here he is feeilng much better!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2013 - 08:42am PT
Word Jingy, that's my thing! I don't eat anything without reading the ingredients... that now applies to my dogs... one is allergic to chicken, the other to legumes.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
May 26, 2013 - 09:10am PT
Word Jingy, that's my thing! I don't eat anything without reading the ingredients... that now applies to my dogs

There's an ingredient list on your dogs?




That aside, it's good to hear that Willie is doing better.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2013 - 09:24am PT
ha... pre-coffee
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