Rattlesnake Canyon closed?

The LA Times article says the perps were bragging about their exploits on 'social media'

Me thinks this is all leading up to a possible entrance fee at Indian Cove . The NPS will use the vandalism as a justification.

"So if ese and his homies"...

Seems a little racist

Let's get 50 people to form a conga line on South of Heaven, coz can ropegun!

I wish I was still in that kinda of shape mister Davis, but if people are into it, I'll go climbing as a protest.

Anyone ever been up there?

That face left of 200Motels etc, is a Gaines 12a slab pitch. There was actually someone on it, trying to TR it when we were walking back down Sat. They appeared to be flexible (judging by the crazy high stepping going on), but were struggling for sure.

Just get me a wheelchair and an O2 tank and I'm fuking GUD ta go!!!...

Thanks to Allied Climbers of San Diego who offered to do a cleanup in Rattlesnake Canyon. Also to Robert Fonda and Kai at Nomad Ventures who reported some of the graffiti. This time, we will be using some students from an urban school in San Francisco for the clean-up

p.s. do u think when u have some time to get down to stoney point to perform an investigation about all of the graffitti on our rocks?

If you would like to volunteer to help clean-up graffiti in the park (there are many other places aside from Rattlesnake) please let me know.

Sorry, we prefer to sit on our asses and bitch about the park service. Thanks for asking, though.

Hate to break it to you but there are MANY on this forum both criticize and help out. There is much about NPS and it's management of our parks that is worthy of constructive criticism -- there is also much to be admired.

If I were slightly more cynical than I already am, I'd say...

Let's see -- scratch or paint a picture on a rock a long time ago and it becomes a resource.

The rarer some things are, the more valuable they are.

In addition, glyphs tells us much about a subject we know relatively very little about, namely, prehistoric human beings: who and where they were, and clues to what kind of lives they lived.

Native Americans lived in the Joshua Tree environment. They were not visitors there who lived in another mileau , like modern vandals

They sought to convey something about themselves and their life and death interaction with that environment.

Modern vandals are there to deface and defile.

and then there was that dude that wrote on those rocks way off the beaten path... (In the 30's???)...

I don't think the NPS is doing a very good job of running any of our parks......I give them a C- at best.

Mr. Keesee, what would you like to see the NPS do differently?

How come they don't add more camping????

Are you NPS person?????

And I don't have problems with the workers, most are just trying to do a good job and follow their dreams of working in the outdoors.

to keep harping on it gets a little old.

Not necessarily. Diamonds are hardly rare. They are expensive as hell due to clever marketing.

Wait. What? How can we know much and relatively very little at the same time? They tell us someone marked the rocks. They do not tell us whether their contributions were even valued by their contemporaries. For all we know it was the work of native hooligan teenagers who were roundly criticized at the time. It's called prehistory for a reason.

Whoa, there! Ascribing motives. Danger! Danger! Glyphs don't have annotations reading, "I did this because...." They could also mean, "I'm bored." We weren't there and we can't ask.

Pluck someone from the distant future who can't read, plop them down at barker dam without telling them anything, and they just might assume they are at a sacred site due to all the graffiti. It's been known to happen.