california sailboat accident,race near san clemente 2013

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neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 9, 2013 - 09:49pm PT
hey there say, all... i know there is some sailors here, and some may even race (other than seagoat, etc)... so just in case you may know these folks... here is the link:

http://news.yahoo.com/crew-member-killed-during-california-sailboat-race-004110411--spt.html

condolences to the family and loved ones, of the one that died...
:(
SalNichols

Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
Mar 9, 2013 - 11:12pm PT
Know them, raced against them, just shattered because they're just great people, and great sailors, each and every one of them.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Mar 10, 2013 - 06:53am PT
That's a shame. Do you know what occurred Sal? The story, as most news story's seems to be, is lacking. Did they lose their mast or nail a rock? Spontaneously just "broke apart" doesn't quite tell the tale.


"LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A crew member was killed when a 30-foot (9-metre) sailboat broke apart in rough seas during a race near San Clemente Island in California, the U.S. Coast Guard said on Saturday.
The crew of the boat, the Uncontrollable Urge, issued a mayday call around 9:26 p.m. on Friday night, after the sailboat's rudder failed during the so-called Islands Race.
Officials said the boat drifted into the rocky shore of San Clemente Island off the Southern California coast and broke apart. Five survivors were rescued by a San Diego-based Coast Guard aircrew and transported to a nearby hospital.
Craig Thomas Williams, 36, of San Diego was found unresponsive in the water and later pronounced dead, the San Diego County Medical Examiner's Office said in a statement.
Coast Guard Petty Officer Henry Dunphy said the man died when the vessel broke up.
Initially, the crew attempted to anchor the boat, but the anchor "would not catch" and the boat "entered the surf line and was broken apart by the waves, forcing the crew to abandon the vessel," the Coast Guard said in a statement.
"The crew initially stated they were not in need of assistance and declined assistance from both the Coast Guard and other boaters involved in the race," the Coast Guard statement said.
"The sailors requested assistance from a commercial salvage company, however they were unable to launch due to weather conditions," the statement said.
The Islands Race covers a 139-mile (224-km) course rounding the Catalina and San Clemente islands, and is run by the Newport Harbor and San Diego yacht clubs.
A statement from organizers said Uncontrollable Urge's crew tried at one point to launch a life raft, before abandoning the vessel to swim to shore.
The fatal wreck was at least the third in the past year involving California sailboats.
Last April, four crewmen in a race from Southern California to Mexico died after their yacht ran aground. Two weeks earlier, five sailors died in racing accident near the Farallon Islands off the coast of San Francisco.
The Farallon incident prompted the Coast Guard to temporarily suspend racing in the Pacific Ocean off northern California.

(Reporting by Alex Dobuzinskis in Los Angeles and Edith Honan in New York; Editing by Tom Brown, Peter Cooney and David Brunnstrom)"
SalNichols

Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
Mar 11, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
It's a bit early for anyone to talk about it. The sailing community is pretty good about getting the story out, even though we don't have an Accidents in N.A. Mountaineering type of publication. There will undoubtedly be some kind of investigation, probably not solely due to the loss of UU, but because there were other boats that either needed assistance (MHK), or had on board drama due to the conditions.
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Mar 11, 2013 - 04:51pm PT
I believe they lost rudder and were drifting...

My condolences ;-(

G_Gnome

Trad climber
Pebble Wrestling.... Badly lately.
Mar 11, 2013 - 08:07pm PT
Big wind and seas all day they lost their rudder on the back of San Clemente Island at 2:00 am and drifted into the surf and rocks.

These guys were all top knotch so if it can happen to them it can happen to anyone.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 11, 2013 - 08:21pm PT
8 foot seas would have made anchoring on the windward shore difficult. Pretty steep seafloor in the Channel Islands too. Sounds like they maybe waved off help as a matter of pride
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Mar 11, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
Very sad. I did not know them or the boat.
Sorry Sal...apparently you did know them.

Susan
SalNichols

Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:16pm PT
Susan, they were the crazy bastards that pulled into Kaneohe in 2010 with shark bites on their keel. They won their division. Fun, top notch sailors...but then aren't we all once we hit the islands?
SalNichols

Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:36pm PT
One of the things we worry about in offshore sailing is government intervention. Last year, the USCG put us on hiatus for 30 days after our accident at the Farallones. Imagine the U.S. Park Service banning all climbing on El Cap for 30 days pending an accident investigation due to the rescue of an ill prepared rappeler. The Islands Race was held in pretty snotty conditions. In addition to the boat that was lost, there were additional vessels, crewed by very good/professional sailors that needed assistance.

So, some of us that manage our local ocean races are waiting for the other shoe to drop. Historically (literally, a hundred years or so), the responsibility to race has fallen upon the individual skipper. Today, we fear that decision may be taken away from us by the USCG, by virtue of them refusing our race permits...which voids the liability insurance of the organizing authority. IOW, if it's blowing outside the gate, they could flinch and cancel our race. Imagine if the park service had that authority on our climbs.

So we're hurting over the loss of a friend. And we're also very sensitive to get the facts RIGHT. the boat did lose her rudder and she did end up aground on San Clemente Island. Everything else that happened, including the loss of our friend, subsequent to the rudder loss is mere conjecture. Once everyone gets their wits gathered and settled, they'll describe what happened. Anything that is published between now and then is just a wild assed guess.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2013 - 02:28am PT
hey there say, sal nichols.... oh my.... :(

Know them, raced against them, just shattered because they're just great people, and great sailors, each and every one of them


very sad, it will always be...
my condolences to you and their other beloved buddies and family, once again, :(


*our family used to sail, but never in races...
i know the feel of how wonderful it is...


god bless at this hard time, :(
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