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Beautiful_Corn

Big Wall climber
Brooklyn Park, MD
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 25, 2013 - 02:59pm PT
http://www.climbing.com/news/donini-and-lowe-plan-nose-in-a-day-attempt/
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Feb 25, 2013 - 03:16pm PT
So, so, so cool!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Feb 25, 2013 - 03:21pm PT
G'damn those feckin' geezers anyway....I hate them.

But I will meet them on top with steak and beers just in case they make it!!
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Feb 25, 2013 - 03:21pm PT
Cool. Gives me hope.
darkmagus

Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 25, 2013 - 03:22pm PT
So awesome!!!
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 25, 2013 - 03:22pm PT
Yes, that's really cool. The ascent will be followed with the same interest as the Nose record from the other side of the pond...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 25, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
I saw that the AARP is sending a film crew.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Feb 25, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
Geritol, Depends, Metamucil and Viagra have signed on as sponsors!
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
Feb 25, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
Yeah, yeah, yeah! These guys are just hoping to score some free gear from potential sponsors:-)
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Feb 25, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
This plus we have Mark Hudon the oldest man to ever solo El Capitan. I'm feeling younger all the time.
Alexey

climber
San Jose, CA
Feb 25, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
I wish them fun day. If I would know the day of the assent- I'll take my binocular and popcorn and camp in the Meadow to cheer them up
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 25, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
What the hell are they going to do with viagra up there?
I thought the whole point was not to bivy.
steveA

Trad climber
bedford,massachusetts
Feb 25, 2013 - 04:13pm PT
I have no doubt they will get it done.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Feb 25, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
Between this story and the Turbanned Tornado, I am feeling very young today. Dream big! Like that new commercial says, spme of us don't peak in our 20's.
Roots

Mountain climber
SoCal
Feb 25, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
Best of luck - that is badass!
WyoRockMan

Trad climber
Flank of the Bighorns
Feb 25, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
What is the over-under? 10 hours?
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Feb 25, 2013 - 04:38pm PT
Oh boy...oh men I guess!

Yippee
Susan
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 25, 2013 - 04:44pm PT
git some!
10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Feb 25, 2013 - 04:58pm PT
would like to be there to watch this

Geritol, Depends, Metamucil and Viagra

Viagra?
pc

climber
Feb 25, 2013 - 04:58pm PT
Kick ass....er....Nose!

and

Have fun.
jopay

climber
so.il
Feb 25, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
I have no doubt they will "represent" us older climbers and do us proud.
Spanky

Social climber
boulder co
Feb 25, 2013 - 06:02pm PT
Super cool I hope I'm there to see it in June
Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Feb 25, 2013 - 06:08pm PT
Awesome. This will be worth taking a trip to the Valley to see!
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Feb 25, 2013 - 06:11pm PT
So right now, no one has a longer El Cap life than me 38 years from my first to latest route. Jim will shatter that record resoundingly!

Sweet! Go Jim!
slabbo

Trad climber
fort garland, colo
Feb 25, 2013 - 06:41pm PT
i will contact Rubin and SA- THEN it will be an old timers deal
LilaBiene

Trad climber
Feb 25, 2013 - 07:01pm PT
Not sure which is more awesome...the mission or that Donini is itching to break out of his comfort zone.

Awesomeness.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Feb 25, 2013 - 07:06pm PT
viagra no, but maybe a little nitroglycerin.
WBraun

climber
Feb 25, 2013 - 07:10pm PT
It can't be done.

One must retire and stay home and watch Jerry Springer episodes at their age.

There's no climbs for old men ......
slabbo

Trad climber
fort garland, colo
Feb 25, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
W- areyou speaking from experience ?
LilaBiene

Trad climber
Feb 25, 2013 - 08:06pm PT
Awwww....Werner...ya broke my heart.

I thought there was hope for me yet, if I applied myself really diligently for another 25 years or so...
bmacd

Trad climber
100% Canadian
Feb 25, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
So awesome ! Git er done boys !!
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Feb 25, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
total n00bs
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Feb 25, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
Man, these guys are just ruining all the benefits of aging. What the hell are we gonna use for excuses now?
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Feb 25, 2013 - 08:49pm PT
Sweet, old guys goin' fast!
Leggs

Sport climber
Home away from Home
Feb 25, 2013 - 08:52pm PT
Awesome. Completely awesome.



would like to be there to watch this

I'm with 10b on that one!

~peace
~Leggs


johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Feb 25, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
A whole rack of blue #3 BD c4's for the
NIAD ought to be a record too.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Feb 25, 2013 - 09:34pm PT
Whatever mark this strong team sets in the 69 and older category won't be challenged for a good long while I betcha.

Unless you are committed to following the original route, the free variation from Sickle (5.10d) to reach the very bottom of the Stovelegs is direct and allows you to easily bypass the average party dealing with two pendulums. Fun way to stretch out the Stovelegs too!

Old School Rules!
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Feb 25, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
Jeeez Mark, what the heck, 38 years ago? What were you, 4 when you first climbed it?
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Feb 25, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
As a NIAD climber how do you get passed several other parties that are in the middle of their leads while you are going for it? That may make it complicated, there are a lot of ppl on el cap when they are going.

The monkeys are sendin!
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Feb 25, 2013 - 10:34pm PT
Seriously, sponsorship opportunities here are major.

Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Feb 25, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
Stoked! Go Guys. What's a number? We've already discussed how many wiener youth there are. Ever go to a climbing gym.....? Ouch, did I say that?

Speaking of Ouch, I miss you mega, Dude. You would put a FINE tweak on this topic. A great cartoon of Donini, Lowe and .....an Ouch to make it a funny gift to all of us.

Love you Ouch! Cheers, lynnie
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Feb 26, 2013 - 12:07am PT
You guys should put some serious thought into what you wear. Forget modern comfortable/practical clothing. I vote for either powder blue leisure suits or maybe something along the lines of 60's psychedelic . Either way you guys will crush it. Looking forward to hearing about your success.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Feb 26, 2013 - 12:14am PT
"Donini and Lowe, along with a 20-year-old friend, completed the Evolution Traverse in the Sierra in a fast two days in 2010. The remote, eight-mile route crosses nine peaks over 13,000 feet, with extensive fourth- and fifth-class climbing that they climbed almost entirely free-solo. At the time, they were 67 and 66, respectively."


Man, that's feckin' cool.
Plaidman

Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
Feb 26, 2013 - 12:18am PT
Donini is super stoked about the climb. It's a go for sure.

Go guys. So cool. Thanks for keeping Stoke Alive!

Plaid
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Feb 26, 2013 - 12:33am PT

[Click to View YouTube Video]


karodrinker

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Feb 26, 2013 - 12:35am PT
what's Earners el cap lifespan?
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 26, 2013 - 08:14am PT

I'm sure they'll do it!
Just wish I could be there to watch it--though elcap-pics will
no doubt document it well!
Gilroy

Social climber
Bolderado
Feb 26, 2013 - 08:43am PT
G-d bless Dougald. I love his writing and in-the-know timeliness but can just imagine George cringing with this announcement given his very real aversion to anything close to spray.

That being said, 'Go, Geezers!'

Oremus
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 26, 2013 - 09:01am PT
God only knows what kind of priapismic state this kind of news will put Mark and Max into, we can only hope the two youngsters survive the resulting onslaught of activity.
mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Feb 26, 2013 - 09:03am PT
OK, if those two old farts do NIAD, then I'm doing HDIAD by the time I'm 60 (7.5 years for training, should be casual).

Thanks for keeping the dream alive!
MisterE

Social climber
Feb 26, 2013 - 09:27am PT
What a great goal to set - very impressive. Best to Donini and Lowe!
Plaidman

Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
Feb 26, 2013 - 09:30am PT
Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Feb 26, 2013 - 12:41pm PT
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/8028015/walls-in-a-push

Been posted before, but still funny. Sending!
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Feb 26, 2013 - 01:27pm PT
Ha! Guido, no, 18.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Feb 26, 2013 - 02:46pm PT
They will do just fine on the Nose-In-A-Day.
Just a day of holding is OK. Donini don't eat much anyway.

Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Feb 26, 2013 - 03:21pm PT
Whew. What a relief. Jim and George are leading the way. Tangible evidence underpinning audacious hope.

If I had known how much easier it was going to be to wait until my eight decade to climb the Nose, I could have saved a lot of sleepless nights and age anxiety over the past several decades. Most men my age only worry about finding a bathroom and smelling bad: secretly, I had to also worry about never having climbed the Nose.

However, now knowing the benefits of waiting, I can even upgrade my hopes for a NIALT ascent to a NIAD project, blowing right by NIAFDs.

I have 7 more years before I have to seriously work on my training.

Time for a nap and some daytime TV.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Feb 26, 2013 - 03:48pm PT
Go for it Roger. I think one of these guys is only 69, and will have to do this a second time if they want the 70+ record.
LongAgo

Trad climber
Feb 26, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
If they took me in a haul bag the combined age factor would go way up.

Oops, that's not a proposal.

Have fun guys!

Tom Higgins
LongAgo
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Feb 27, 2013 - 02:05am PT
All joking aside, I'll be watching this event very seriously........while Donini and Lowe are doing the climbing! Will probably be standing room only out in the meadows - they better hurry and get that fence built.

Anyway, I wish them well, that spirit has already lifted my old ass up just a little more.
damo62

Social climber
Brisbane
Feb 27, 2013 - 02:14am PT
So Werner, what's the on the spot fine if this becomes a geezers rescue?
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Feb 27, 2013 - 02:28am PT
Donini don't need no stinkin rescue. Those guys will be better off than some of the younger morons that get on the stone.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Feb 27, 2013 - 02:31am PT
Hell those guys might have to rescue someone else during their NIAD. But be rescued??? lol
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Feb 27, 2013 - 02:36am PT
That's more like it. Werner could just make sure that nobody goes up there for a few days. LOL.
Gregory Crouch

Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
Feb 27, 2013 - 10:30am PT
I told Jim he should keep quiet... now he and George are going to have to shoulder through a horde of paparazzi when they string on for that thing.

Hilarious.
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Feb 27, 2013 - 10:47am PT
How about an AARP-NIAD grudge match?

Donini/Lowe

vs

(insert bro-mance here)

While they are a decade younger I would nominate E and Lechlinski.

Maybe have some age graded handicap system, the older you are over 50 the lower the handicap (however that handicap sh#t works)

climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Feb 27, 2013 - 11:01am PT
Handicapping the NIAD?

Hmm lets assume 16hrs=Par

Honnold +14?

Could I please get a -72?
mareko

Trad climber
San Francisco
Feb 27, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
Donini and Lowe, Kick some boooty.
Conner

Mountain climber
Eden, Utah
Feb 27, 2013 - 01:15pm PT
You guys are a real inspiration - Jeff and I will be following your progress! Show the young ones how it's done and Have FUN!

Connie Self and Jello
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Feb 27, 2013 - 10:59pm PT
let's keep this front page

how about training updates??
Captain...or Skully

climber
Feb 27, 2013 - 11:04pm PT
You guys are gonna die fer sure. ;-)
See you later this Summer in the City, Jim?
Let me know & I'll bop on out there.
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Feb 27, 2013 - 11:11pm PT
Go Team Geezer!!!!!
matlinb

Trad climber
Albuquerque
Feb 28, 2013 - 08:57am PT
For the Race Across America (RAAM) they use the average age of the team. A person I used to ride road bikes with, Durwood was on the 70+ team that shattered the record for 70+ last year and broke the 60+ record by a comfortable margin as well.

In my early 40s I was riding 100 - 150 miles a week and Durward was right in the thick of things with us. He had retired years ago and was devoting his life to riding his road bike.

I know life has plan for all of us and sooner or later age and illness will find us all; but for a lucky few this seems to be well into the 70s or even 80s.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/photos/2012/jul/04/68119/
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 28, 2013 - 09:32am PT
I'm not sure that this will qualify for for a valid NIAD if there are pre-placed Depends at El Cap Tower and Camp 5.
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Feb 28, 2013 - 09:56am PT
I see a Viagra commercial or maybe Cialis as a prime sponsor. "You never know when you might need to be ready". LEB and T*R will be waiting as a " support" team at legdes along the route.
TrundleBum

Trad climber
Las Vegas
Feb 28, 2013 - 11:50am PT

Donini, yeah yeah yeah...
How many times have I heard'm say something to the effect of...
"The dirty, dusty ditch. Yosemite/Camp4, I am so over that place!"

Sometimes yah just can't get enough.

@Dee ee:
Sweet, old guys goin' fast!

I don't know Mr. Lowe, but using that adjective, I'm not sure you know Donini. (Crotchety 'ole Curmudgeon ;)
Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
Feb 28, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
2nd the interest in training updates...for personal motivation of course.

perhaps these cats are posting on the "what did you climb today" thread?
WBraun

climber
Feb 28, 2013 - 12:07pm PT
They've been "seen" around the Valley on various climbs.

Leave em alone, they're in serious training ....
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 28, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
Werner, are you going to coach them on the metaphysics about how they have already succeeded and all that remains is for their bodies to realize it in this world?
Captain...or Skully

climber
Mar 1, 2013 - 10:33pm PT
Bump for the NIADFOG.
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Mar 2, 2013 - 12:39am PT
What is the over/under on their time? Now that I am getting older, I would vote for a more safety conscious but slower attempt. I would be happy just pulling off the NAID at 40+ years old. Regardless of climb duration , this is a bold and very cool goal. Can't wait to hear about the adventure.
MisterE

Social climber
Mar 2, 2013 - 01:35am PT
That was damn funny, Skully - cheers, Mate.
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Mar 2, 2013 - 01:37am PT
Sherpa for hire let me know if you need a third.
splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane ~:~
Mar 2, 2013 - 02:07am PT
YER




















GONNA
























CRUSH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

^^ EDIT: (from 'yer gonna die'.)!

PS - Dood, "yer gonna die!" is what J Muir advised Teddy Roosevelt ("Teddy, yer gonna die!") when he asked Muir for some last minute advice before climbing the tallest Doug Fir they could find (100+ ft) in Yose during a raging winter storm and then proceeded to howl at the wind (just like Muir was notorious for doing).

And Warren Harding, upon hearing of Royal Robbins intentions of doing the SA of the Nose ground up (no fixed pitches) looked him straight in the eye and said, "Royal, yer gonna die!". And, RR famously responded, "Batso, were gonna crush it!".

SO, i felt that Donini & Lowe were more than worthy of a similar distinction. ... wudevah!
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Mar 5, 2013 - 01:57pm PT
George and Jim, best wishes,and you're not gonna die, just be careful coming back down the gullies. There you may well, uhhh, forget it.
Gilberto

Social climber
La Crescenta, CA
Mar 5, 2013 - 02:24pm PT
Dang! That's Great guys. Old Farts Rule!
goss

Trad climber
Portland OR
Mar 5, 2013 - 11:13pm PT
So cool you guys are doing this. Have fun!
..wg
jabbas

Trad climber
phx AZ
Mar 5, 2013 - 11:30pm PT
Girls will love you to no end !!
The Call Of K2 Lou

climber
Squamish
Mar 7, 2013 - 12:58am PT
Mr. (Sir? Emperor?) Donini says in the article:
“It’s important to break out of your comfort zone or else you stagnate,”
Words to live by- every day!
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 7, 2013 - 01:18am PT
My prediction 15.5-16.5 hours from base to the top. :)
deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Mar 7, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
Those two can create a team that will likely break 12 hours. Though I've only roped up for a pitch or two with Jim and George over the years, I reckon there will not be much to slow those guys down...

Good luck!
Gregory Crouch

Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
Mar 7, 2013 - 01:24pm PT
They'll get through any teams above them like they were parting the Red Sea
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 7, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
Why?
Will they be wearing plaid pajamas?
Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Mar 7, 2013 - 03:46pm PT
I think there is a distinct possibility of having to rescue them if Donini drops his blue Camalot.

The problem, J-do is finding recently, is that no matter where he goes (and however fast he might go) he still is there damnit. As for George, he obviously burns a hell of a lot cleaner and seems really unearthly in his consistency. Best to them. When is this going to take place?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 7, 2013 - 04:10pm PT
You are best advised not to ask. George is a man of mystery and his peregrinations may or may not be subject to classified purview.
Even the TR might be heavily redacted.

But I cannot imagine donini doing the Nose in a diaper and not carrying a second blue camalot.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 7, 2013 - 07:07pm PT
Aw, c'mon coz. Some of us have to run off at the mouth a bit as part of the commitment process.

Not all of us are the stalwart dragon slayer that you are.
Some of us will stumble back into the bar all cut up and wondering where that eskimo woman that they wanted you to wrestle is.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 7, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
I agree with Coz, it really isn't that newsworthy. As to talking about it in advance, Dougald MacDonald asked me at the AAC meeting in Berkeley if we were keeping it hush, hush. I said no, i didn't care one way or another, thus it ended up on the Climbing Mag. blog and the op picked it up and here it is. Dougald works on editing for the AAC and i thought maybe he, at most, wanted to put something in the AAC newsletter. George and i are both ex officials of the AAC and are both committed to letting climbers know that the AAC isn't comprised of a bunch of old guys sitting around drinking expensive port and smoking Cuban cigars.

You're absolutely right Coz, certainly not an earth shattering event, but possibly a tiny bit inspirational for the aging population here on ST as the recent thread on approaching 60 shows. I hit 70 this Summer so maybe those approaching the big 60 can look forward to another decade.

Just back from two days at Indian Creek....with the cat out of the bag, i need to get serious- the pressure is on!
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Mar 7, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
Coz-What is it with your negativity concerning Donini all the time? Just curious as it seems pervasive on ST.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 7, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
Guido, i think Coz and i would have fun climbing together as long as he remembered that age has reduced me to one climbing command....."up rope, i'm not moving!!!"
LilaBiene

Trad climber
Mar 7, 2013 - 09:18pm PT
Well, not that I have a leg to stand on around here, but I think that being a positive life force is newsworthy.

And you are a man after my own heart -- there is nothing better than breaking out of one's comfort zone(s) -- it's been a life-long habit of mine. So there.

:D
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Mar 7, 2013 - 09:24pm PT
I don't care if it's newsworthy. We play a stupid game anyway. It's is something fun to banter about on a climbing message board.



Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Mar 7, 2013 - 10:00pm PT
Newsworthy yes but remember that reporters want to turn people into cartoon characters for their stories. If you're going to be a cartoon character, make sure you design it not them.
pk_davidson

Trad climber
Albuquerque, NM
Mar 11, 2013 - 01:55pm PT
Hmmm, let's see.
J-Do, an icon of American climbing. Been cranking for what? 50+ years?
hard core off width climber, Patagonia wunder kid-man-thenoldfart.

GL - arguably climbing harder moves than anyone else at the time.

Moving towards (or reached 70) and they're planning a NIAD?
Freaking A Right that's news worthy.

Kerist coz, 70 year old guys even thinking about something like this?
And you want to whine on the parade ? Wake up man.

Is it more news worthy after the fact, yeah, sure.
But these guys don't spew and beat their own drums.
The fact the thread has 100+ responses indicates the level of interest.

I say they flash it.
And if they don't, so what. The attempt is awesome and is what really matters!

Go lads go!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
Whether they succeed or not they will certainly put a few new wrinkles on the NIAD history.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:37pm PT
My Mother always told me, don't talk about what you are going to do, just go out and do it.

I agree with that, but some times telling others about something you going to do gives you a bit extra motivation to train harder. Even though I climb for myself if I tell someone I will do something, it puts a bit more pressure on me to do it..climbing is not only about crushing hard routes. There is much more to it, like individual stories of people pushing their limits etc. Even though I don't think the chose a hard enough objective to give them a REAL challenge with big epic potential etc. Jim did Positive Vibrations on the Hulk a few years ago and has done so much climbing that he forgot more about it than I will ever learn. lol. I think The Shield in a day would be a better challenge for him :)
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Mar 11, 2013 - 03:27pm PT
Perhaps you mistake Climbing Mag as a "News" source. That may be more to the point.. lol. It seems Donini agrees with you on the "newsworthy" point I'm sure he just shakes his head bemusedly if he even thinks about it much.

It is as good a discussion topic as any on ST though.

I do think that certain "projects" are reasonable for articles in Magazines. Some Climbers have developed high enough reputation that their "projects" under progress are given a better than average level of respect. Caldwell's New Dawn, Hans and Alex'es speed attempt last year prior to sucess. Conrad and friends Meru the same. For that matter whether you like it or not Coz if it were leaked that you had some cool new project most folks would find it noteworthy based on your stellar credentials.

Certainly Donini and Lowe have the credentials that many feel this goal is almost in the bag before it's attempted. I know it's not quite that simple and nothing is done till it's done. But we sure have a high level of confidence in them.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 11, 2013 - 03:32pm PT
Next thing coz will be telling us is that he is an even more important free climber than Ament!

;-)
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Mar 11, 2013 - 03:37pm PT
Dude, it's a forum. People talk about things, perhaps too much.

News as you talk of it is dead. Yeah, there will be write ups of notable ascents in the AAJ and Alpinist, but this is not that.

It's people talking about something that inspires them. It creates conversation. What is wrong with that?

Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Mar 11, 2013 - 03:48pm PT
+1 what Brandon said. It's all just talking about climbing and wishing and hoping anyway, mental masturbation at its finest.
craig mo

Trad climber
L.A. Ca.
Mar 11, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
with the crowd out of sight
I'll bet they do it at night
How about a special brew NIAD OGx2
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Mar 11, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
Yosemite needs paparazzi. I am not talking quality Tom Evans photos, I'm talking Hollywood style stuff. Supertopo is kinda like the TMZ of the climbing world. Photogs lurking behind boulders, trees and even on larger ledge systems.

Maybe Supertopo could start paying for photos of interest. Come on who would not want to see 2 startled old dudes/climbing legends trying to smack an annoying photographer with a blue camelot as they approach a training climb. Think of all the other Yosemite shenanigans that could be documented forever on the internets. ST could become a huge revenue stream and CMac could make tax deductible donations to all the fundraisers on the fourm.

OK I am done, that is my troll for the day


Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 4, 2013 - 07:11pm PT
How is the training going? I kind of want to do NIAD too. Not sure if ready, but sounds challenging as hell ATM.
Gene

climber
Apr 4, 2013 - 07:25pm PT
Vitaliy,

My bookie has the date of your NIAD over/under as 5/1/2013.

g
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Apr 4, 2013 - 07:32pm PT
Is there going to be a pay per view webcast?

;)
nutjob

Sport climber
Almost to Hollywood, Baby!
Apr 4, 2013 - 08:02pm PT
I dunno... single push on 5/1/2013 maybe, but IAD might be until end of summer for the Vit-meister. Back on topic with the geriatric badass IAD attempt! Rumors, sitings of training in progress, backpacks filled with stones, etc.
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