Cliffs in Red rocks suitable for kids?

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harryhotdog

Social climber
north vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 13, 2013 - 10:54am PT
Visiting the area for a couple of weeks with family and would like to get out to some areas suitable for kids. Looking for something with a hike less than 2 miles, no climbers or dogs on ledges above, gets some sun and in the 5.2 to 5.8 range. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
tornado

climber
lawrence kansas
Feb 13, 2013 - 10:59am PT
moderate meccahttp://www.mountainproject.com/v/moderate-mecca/105732021
Jason Martin

climber
Feb 13, 2013 - 11:32am PT
You should check out this book:

http://www.rei.com/product/786469/fun-climbs-red-rocks-topropes-and-moderates
locker

Social climber
FukUville
Feb 13, 2013 - 11:36am PT



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Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Feb 13, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
Panty wall

Crowds at Panty Wall, Red Rocks.
Crowds at Panty Wall, Red Rocks.
Credit: Dave Kos

Moderate mecca looks very promising, but I haven't been there myself.
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Feb 13, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
Ive hit moderate mecca, its an option, not as fun if you already know how to climb, but fun if youre learning. Short, tad of choss.
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Feb 13, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
Harry - you should send a message to Dean H. He was there Christmas of '11 I think.........with his kids - then 7 & 10 or so. If you don't have his email, shoot me a PM.
Greg Barnes

climber
Feb 13, 2013 - 02:12pm PT
Moderate Mecca has loose/chossy rock and some drop-offs below the cliff, check out before bringing kids.

Left of Ragged Edges has some good low-angle trad, but no convenient anchors (in general) and need to be careful with loose rocks when walking off. Sun in the morning only and only for a limited time.

Panty Wall and nearly all sport crags have bases that may not be kid friendly (or may be very unfriendly) depending on age, again you want to go check them out first. Lots of drop-offs and scrambling problems with little kids.

Red Rocks is generally really non-kid-friendly. Joshua Tree is 4 hours away.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Feb 13, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
There are other "objective" hazards near Panty Wall:

I wonder if anybody is down there...
I wonder if anybody is down there...
Credit: Dave Kos

There are drop-offs at the base, so it wouldn't be suitable for unsupervised toddlers walking around. But for older kids there is plenty of room to hang out safely.

Agree that JTree is way better for kids.
Anastasia

climber
Home
Feb 13, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
I agree, Red Rocks in not friendly at all. Plus each time I've been there, I cross paths with a photographer taking pictures of a nude. No idea why... I've only been there three times and three times I've had a hit on a similar scene. Not my kinda thing I want to need to explain to my kiddo.

10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Feb 13, 2013 - 03:32pm PT
Harry, how old are the kids?
If older than ten, I think they would be fine at Moderate Mecca. Just keep an
eye on them.
just my .02
harryhotdog

Social climber
north vancouver, B.C.
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2013 - 04:51pm PT
Thanks so much everyone, my son is 6 1/2 and daughter is 4 1/2. I've have not promoted climbing with my kids but it seems to no avail as they really enjoy it and ask me all the time when we can go. Must be in the dna as I don't even climb myself these days. This is not my first time here and I have to agree that there are not many safe landings for small kids. I will ckeck out Panty wall with my son and maybe check out the other recommendations on my own and see if they are suitable for a supervised 4 year old. I'd love to go to JT as Rolf is there and it's been a long time since I voluntarily donated skin to the rock gods but we are only here for two weeks. I love Nevada!
Greg Barnes

climber
Feb 13, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
Sunnyside crags in Icebox is probably getting sun by now, great base for kids, no worries about people above, but limited in the 5.8/under range (and the classic 5.8 corner - Cold September Corner - is burly for the rating - well actually more intimidating than burly). One good 5.7 (Shady Ladies) and a fun 5.9 TR from that anchor, then Cold September Corner 5.8 (couple 4" cams needed), then if you dig up a rope gun Mister Masters is a sweet trad juggy route, 5.9+. Half rope length too, very convenient.
Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Feb 13, 2013 - 05:33pm PT
Below and left of Panty Wall, is a newish wall called Hamlet. It has an upper and a lower tier.

The lower tier is all TR's in the 5.7 range, and the anchors are easy to reach by walking up the rib that separates the upper and lower tier.

The upper tier has, from left to right, a short 5.5, two soft 5.8s, a 5.10 TR, a brand new 5.8 that's really good, and a good 5.9.

It's not in the Handren guide yet, but I think it is listed on MP somewhere - sorry but I'm too lazy to look at the moment.

Anyways, shorter approach then Panty Wall, good low level climbs, low danger potential for the kiddos. I'm in Vegas, so if you need more beta shoot me a message. Have fun!
Brent Mattix

Trad climber
Roseville, CA
Mar 21, 2013 - 08:41am PT
Harry,

Did you make this trip? How did it go with the kids? My family is headed to Red Rocks next week and I am looking to get in some climbing with my three kids.

Some good information in this thread and I appreciate any additional beta for a good top rope set-up for three young climbers.

Cheers,

Brent
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Mar 21, 2013 - 09:00am PT
Yeah, another vote for panty wall being a lot of climbs in kids/easy range. And I saw a photo session going on near there too.
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