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Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 3, 2013 - 05:34pm PT
Out there with nothing but mountain, rock and hill. Man makes his mark
Out there with nothing but mountain, rock and hill. Man makes his mark
Credit: LL LL

I am not usually critical or negative. But, whoa, this place is so in the face of everyone driving past to Hellhole Canyon Preserve. Placing a structure into the land and not on top of it would perhaps create a better footprint.

This is what's behind the structure....includes some nice rock.
This is what's behind the structure....includes some nice rock.
Credit: LL LL

kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Feb 3, 2013 - 05:39pm PT
Nice house,looks like he 's even got a flagpole goin!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 3, 2013 - 06:05pm PT
Pretty generic design, all money, zero imagination!
Figures.....
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Feb 3, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
Sad with the same money the person could build a smaller house much more suited to the surrounding area. Go to St. George Utah and you see huge ugly suburban macmansions everywhere.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Feb 3, 2013 - 06:08pm PT
Ha! I've driven by that place - way pretentious and gaudy for the area.

There is some really good climbing in the vicinity.....


What were you doing out that way Lynne?
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
Why hiking, exploring and climbing, Warbler. It's way close to mi casa. Cheers to ya. lynne
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Feb 3, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
Ugly, inefficient, obtrusive, and most likely built like crap.
McMansions suck.
John M

climber
Feb 3, 2013 - 06:17pm PT
Pretty generic design, all money, zero imagination!

It seems like a lot of that going around.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Feb 3, 2013 - 06:25pm PT
Looks like it could slide off the back or is that just the photo angle.

Ugh


Susan
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Feb 3, 2013 - 06:27pm PT
Oh, Lynne, you might not like some of the houses here in my fair city - often voted "best place in the world to live". Yeah, rite. We call them monster houses and, sadly, it tends to be folks who are new to the country who build them.

In the city & suburbs some of the examples are hilariously awful but the one you have cited above is really a sad case c'os it's in such a beautiful place.

A blight fer sure...........
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Feb 3, 2013 - 06:50pm PT
To each, his own.

That abomination may be the owner's dream castle.

You can't fix stupid, or poor taste.

But he paid for it, so get used to it.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2013 - 06:54pm PT
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Credit: LL LL


Credit: LL LL


Credit: LL LL


Credit: LL LL


Collected a number of books, magazines and other literature over the years showing the beauty of desert and southwest style architecture. Dan and I were in the process of designing a new, modest look for our own home. Maybe it's just me, but I feel good when I see a home, no matter what the size or even the neighborhood whether it is modest or weathly. When the home or business fits with the earth and its surroundings our eyes and soul are blessed.


bajaandy

climber
Escondido, CA
Feb 3, 2013 - 06:57pm PT
Hey Lynnie, that monstrosity is on the way to my buddies casa. His place is just out of your second shot. He and his family have to drive past that thing every day. And here's the kicker... NO ONE LIVES IN IT!!! Dude that owns it lives back east or some such. Waste of building materials and land if you ask me. Thing that irked me the most was when they left old glory hanging on the pole 'til she rotted away...

Anyway, you're right about rock! Woohoo!
sharperblue

Mountain climber
oakland, california
Feb 3, 2013 - 07:07pm PT
as an Architect, my professional opinion is that this thing should be nuked from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

always amazed and depressed when people have fabulous pieces of land and then completely ignore even the most basic clues of local landscape and climate in what they build. whatevs. it won't last long.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2013 - 07:11pm PT
Andy, I s.w.e.a.r. i will get me and Seth to your beautiful rock garden. :DD

Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Feb 3, 2013 - 07:20pm PT
always amazed and depressed when people have fabulous pieces of land and then completely ignore even the most basic clues of local landscape and climate in what they build. whatevs.

Well, then you'd LOVE living in Appalachia.

Here, people buy tracks of land - 30 or 40 acres - and build their "dream home" on their land (i.e., park a double-wide). And then - for a little extra money - they log their land and end up staring at 40 acres of tree stumps for the next 20 years.

Or they will have 30 or 40 acres of land but they will build their home 10 feet from the road - "because it costs too much money" to run the utilities further than 10 feet.

Q: What does an Appalachian do when their car breaks down?
A: Park their double-wide next to it
bajaandy

climber
Escondido, CA
Feb 3, 2013 - 07:26pm PT
No worries Lynne. I'm always up for doing a little "gardening".

Sharperblue, I teach an architecture class at a local high school and I couldn't agree with you more. Even my neophyte students would recognize the failure to study the land and then design to fit the surroundings.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
Sierra Ledge Rat,

I hear what you are saying.

I have a question for the ST audience. And the Question is.......

Can people learn to love the area they live in, learn about the history and topography and THEN learn to fit their dwelling into the land?

We are all such different human beings. I understand that some don't get ugly, or that ugly to one is beauty to another. To some function and not form is everything and visa versa.

Perhaps cities can absorb this more than the rural areas. I wish our rural areas could gracefully fit into their topography.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Feb 3, 2013 - 07:53pm PT
Empty?


Norman is looking to start up new Motel.

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bajaandy

climber
Escondido, CA
Feb 3, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
Ha ha! Cosmic, you have no idea... Lynne's shot show's the best looking aspect. From the back it is TOTALLY the Bate's Motel. Even more creepy when there is only one light on in one of the rooms...
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
Thanks as always, Mr. Cosmic, for making me smile.

It took me until I was in my forties to watch that movie. Yikes!!!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Feb 3, 2013 - 08:43pm PT
That house on the Hill,
Made an image pop into my mind
of the ONLY other, HOUSE on the HILL
that gave me shivers.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 3, 2013 - 09:01pm PT
Count the blessings! A lot of regular Joes got jobs working on that joint.

If you think that is an abomination, you should check some out the joints going up on the San Manual Indian Reservation. Your guy is a piker, compared to the Indians.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Feb 3, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
...A lot of regular Joes got jobs working on that joint.

More likely a lot of regular Joses.
Pennsylenvy

Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
Feb 3, 2013 - 09:23pm PT
Abomination. Break into it with a razor knife: cut through the siding, struggle through the Tyvec with same razor knife and your in. Why crowbar the door? It may be harder. McDOnald's is to food as this is to housing. I am a wood floor craftman in a dying trade. People believe a fake wood floor is better these days. It is what it is. My floors kick ass and will outlive me. People don't even build for themselves anymore. They build for the market aka most sq.ft. for the buck, or to keep up with the Jone's who are doing just that. Sheeple.....

edit: OK that might be stucco. So to break in, need tinsnips, a hammer from the dollar store and razor knife
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Feb 3, 2013 - 09:24pm PT
I like fitting in the neighborhood.

Credit: survival
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Feb 3, 2013 - 09:28pm PT
An abomination is when people plant palm trees in CA (unless they live in a desert oasis).

Especially in the valley or foothills around here!

First world problem, but still...
Rolfr

Social climber
North Vancouver BC
Feb 3, 2013 - 09:40pm PT
There are also some examples of great architecture in Tamis city, fortunately there is a resurgence in contemporary and modernism styles in the west.

Some young and interesting architects making a difference http://www.battersbyhowat.com/#/work

And one of our own tribe a climber, extraordinary explorer and an amazing architect. Kevin Vallely. In 2009 Kevin,Ray Zahab and Richard Weber broke the world record for an unsupported trek from Hercules Inlet to the South Pole, a distance of 1,100km. He trained for this by running the Seymour Demenstration Forest 20Km with a rope tied around his waist dragging a car tire.

http://kevinvallely.com/Kevin_Vallely/Design.html



T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Feb 3, 2013 - 09:44pm PT
An Abomination not having your old account : p
Barbarian

climber
Feb 3, 2013 - 10:01pm PT
Abomination? Absolutely! A well designed house should sit gently on the land. It should work with it instead of against. Any good architect will study the site, the path of the sun in the various seasons, the flow of the prevailing winds, and the surrounding flora. The structure built will in harmony with all those element.
Of course, some folks get some money, buy blueprints from a catalog, and hire a builder to build a house - devoid of thought and taste - just like the owner.
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