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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2013 - 08:30pm PT
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Older than Donini ! .... & Lauria!!!!
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martygarrison
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Washington DC
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Wow. I am sure my Dad has some from the late 50's but not from 31!
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2013 - 08:33pm PT
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Barely!
Happy Birthday Champ!
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2013 - 08:34pm PT
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Marty:
Late 50s could fly, that be sort of postwar right?
I say slap it down.
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John M
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We drove through the Wawona tunnel tree in the 60s. Is that old enough? :-) I need to ask my mother for pictures. She keeps saying that she will get them digitized. I think I will push her to do that this year.
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donini
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Ouray, Colorado
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Like the car. Hey....Lauria has me by ten years, i'm a mere puppy.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2013 - 08:47pm PT
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John:
Early 60s sure why not.
Maybe cap at the Tet Offensive, 1968?
Charge up your scanners kids, frankly anything that oozes nostalgia should roll nicely.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2013 - 08:48pm PT
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Lauria has me by ten years, i'm a mere puppy
True Dat.
You holdin'?
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mouse from merced
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The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Mouse be holdin'.
I'm posting two now, holdin' my good stuff.
These are easily found in Hank Johnston's Yosemite Memories.
The 1931 aerial view of Glacier Point shows the hotel and the terrifying sheer cliff where the Firefall fell.
The first airplane landed in Yosemite Valley in May 1919.
Flu, flew, Flue.
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Chicken Skinner
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Yosemite
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Love the dog bone photo corner holders. And of course, the images too. Thanks Roy.
Ken
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WBraun
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Hey that's illegal .... 36 CFR 2.17 ^^^^^
Those guys in the plane will have to see the judge and be banned from the park.
:-)
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Chicken Skinner
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Yosemite
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Landing that thing was probably easier than taking off. Ballsy. Werner, since when did you follow the rules?
Ken
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BooDawg
Social climber
Butterfly Town
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You want some old pictures of Yosemite?
This one fit's into your time range; it's 1952, somewhere near Tioga Pass. I'm on the picture's left; my siblings Philip and Barbara are next to me.
Not to old, you say? You wanted WAY OLD pictures! OK! I get it!
Sorry about the quality; I've inherited this album from my mother whose grandmother, Hattie Muth McCoy probably took the photos between 1900 and 1907. Since Galen Clark, my Great-Great-Great Uncle, appears in at least two of the pictures, they had to be taken before his death in 1910. (Rebecca McCoy was Galen Clark's wife.)
The photos were in such bad shape that I have been debating about scanning them or just tossing them in the trash! So, Tarbuster, your thread here helped me to decide. However, I didn't scan them; I just snapped pictures of the pictures, then reduced the size of each to something reasonable for computers (about 400 X 600 pixels each). The pages in the album and the attached photos are somewhat wrinkled, and there are some holes that time has eroded into the pages and pictures. A more diligent scanning process might improve them somewhat...
Interesting to see how they were hand-labeled with a real fountain pen...
Interesting how some of the old place-names have fallen into disuse. Anyone been to "Rocky Point," by that name?
Anyone seen a Chuck-Ah before? Even heard of one?
Anyone been up the Eagle Peak Trail?
More to come; it's hard keeping track of these; maybe I'm just getting old!
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Wow. It's like a poker game. I hope nobody wins this one.
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BooDawg
Social climber
Butterfly Town
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Yes, Better! I keep forgetting!
Ahh, summer in the Merced River, not in Merced!
And just where did the trail to Clouds' Rest go?
The left photo above shows my grandmother standing on the rock in the river.
Seems like Agassiz Column, above, is near the 4-Mile Trail, but it's not in Roper's Green Guide. Anyone know about its climbing history?
The above left pic looks like a smiling face. the one on the right has my grandmother standing like a speck on the overhanging rock.
Pretty cool seeing Galen Clark in my family's photo album!
I think the caption refers to the trees, not the men... LOL!
No wonder that old tree fell over!
Anyone seen that "Stable Tree?" Looks like a water trough in there!
And last, but not the least is...
Actually, there is also a newspaper (origin unknown) clipping in the album which is quite interesting:
That's all Folks!
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BooDawg
Social climber
Butterfly Town
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John M: Thank you for your response. I know where Eagle Peak is and have been there myself. I'd just never heard mention of "The Eagle Peak Trail." I was speculating about whether my great-grandmother meant what we now call The Yosemite Falls Trail... Same with that "Clouds' Rest Trail."
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mooser
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seattle
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This is a great thread! Thanks for starting it Tarbuster. And BooDawg, those are some great shots.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2013 - 07:27am PT
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Mouse lands a doozy ...
Boo Dawg lays down quite a hand, Pre-World War I !!!
To the Bat Poles kids, into your Bat Caves: heat those scanners up and produce!
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2013 - 07:29am PT
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Weezy: your links are busted. Maybe try again please?
(If in photo bucket go for the [img] tags: IMG will be in capitals)
Yes, Shorpy is pretty cool.
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mouse from merced
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Ken, thanks a mill for the effort. I am impressed that you realize how important these family collections are.
Our culture as a whole has progressed or evolved in this state we live in so fast, that it's fun and educational to be able to realize our grandparents had dealings with Indians like the ones depicted in those quaint snapshots.
Out of all the early-model cameras like the Brownie, of which there were dozens, including the European models, there are likely only a few hundred collections of snaps of that sort and that wintage in the country. And here we have the marvels of engineering like our digital cameras and the computers to help edit in a few clicks. Grandad had to wait a week to see how over-exposed his roll was...No pressure. Just iron determination to get it right the next time.
Unfortunately, our family, living so close to the Park, only began frequenting there in the early sixties, so the photos are touristy and prosaic and mean little to me beyond sentiment. Funny tourist hats and shorts are not my idea of photos to accompany the ones above. Except to see the difference in coutoure between the cultures, sixties vs. this decade, where it's Bermuca vs Patagonia, whereas it used to be Bermuda vs Dirtbag...
Ken, I believe the word "chuck-ah" refers to the "mouse-proofs" surrounding the man in the photo, on legs, they kept the beasties from their acorn stashes. Check with Ben C. in the Yosemite Museum.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2013 - 08:33am PT
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^^^
Unfortunately, our family, living so close to the Park, only began frequenting there in the early sixties, so the photos are touristy and prosaic and mean little to me beyond sentiment. Funny tourist hats and shorts are not my idea of photos to accompany the ones above.
Bingo.
But before this barge hits a sandbar, I'm sure we'll see plenty of those and that's okay too.
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LilaBiene
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Wow.....so GREAT!!!!! Another incredible thread, Tarbuster!
Perhaps we could persuade BooDawg to stop by your thread "Rewind: A life without climbing" to share his thoughts. He has some excellent perspective relative to your questions.
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mouse from merced
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I have some shots that are presentable, but they are not scanned yet.
I have important things to do today, like watching Stupor Bowl pimp reels on TV.
Scanning will have to wait, upstaged by "my homey" Justin and the Niners and "the read option."
edit: that was galling...
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Chiloe
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Lee, NH
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1950:
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Rick A
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Boulder, Colorado
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Good stuff, everyone!
A great reminder that summer's just around the corner.
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mouse from merced
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The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Ma, where's the airplane gonna land?
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mouse from merced
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Before refrigeration, every Valley meadow except Bridalveil was plowed and planted for food or livestock grazing. Here a local citizen works the meadow below Yosemite Falls.
Circa '05-'07.
Thanks again to Hank Johnston's fine work.
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Gene
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Mom and some rock in the early '60s.
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Edit: I have a bunch of pictures of Dad's aunts in the Valley from the '20s. I'll have to find them and post.
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BBA
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My grandfather worked in the valley from 1927-1946, so a lot of the family visited there and took pictures. Here are a couple of the Indian Village area my Mom took in 1931.
Usually all we get are images to wonder at, but in my effort to document my grandfather’s life and times, I received interesting detail. This photo and description came from one of my cousins who also lived in the valley in the 30's and 40's.
Tabuce (Maggie Howard) was a Paiute Indian woman of unknown age. My mother used to go to the Yosemite Indian Village (somewhat of a ghetto) to take flour sacks to her for collecting acorns. I remember her house, filled with sacks of acorns instead of furniture. Grandma Kat [Jeanne] was a good friend of Tabuce. We would often walk to the museum garden in summer. At the back of the garden was a sort of Indian display... bark teepee, dance area and cooking circle. Tabuce sat on a big flat stone in the cooking area, sometimes grinding acorns in stone indentations, cooking the acorns in cooking baskets to remove the bitterness, mashing them up, then forming acorn patties to bake on very hot rocks. When they were done, she sprinkled them with tart, red, ground [Manzanita] berries. I really loved them! Most tourists didn't. Almost every time we visited Tabuce, Grandma would go to Boysen's (next to Ansel Adams' Best Studio) where she'd buy vanilla ice cream cones for the three of us. I treasure the memory of watching Tabuce and Grandma sitting side by side on the rocks enjoying the treat. Few words were ever spoken. Not needed, I suppose.
Several Paiute children went to Yosemite School with me. The men were mostly road workers. They weren't allowed to buy or drink alcohol.
I have a lot of Yosemite history at this link which is one of the volumes of my grandfather's life.
h^^ps://sites.google.com/site/katbiography/volume-iv
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ionlyski
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Kalispell, Montana
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Best thread-ever? Holly schizzle!
Are there more farming, agriculture and logging photos out there? Anybody have any homesteading information? In 1906, the forest homestead act was enacted yet Glacier National Park was created in 1910, so we had about a hundred homesteaders that suddenly found themselves within the National Park. Most visitors come to these parks and think they are untouched, pristine wilderness without having an appreciation of the cultural history that preceded.
Anyway, thanks for sharing; love the old stuff.
Arne
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Edge
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New Durham, NH
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These came to us by way of my grandparents, after their passing. They hung in our central stairwell for the last 17 years.
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mouse from merced
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Those are very beautiful and placid photos.
The pair is a good reflection on your family's taste.
I've been raiding Merced's thrift stores and collectibles shops for Yosemite cards and photos, etc. I'm going to have to get out to Atwater and to Le Grand here one of these days.
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mouse from merced
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Feb 10, 2013 - 01:50am PT
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The AdAmAn Club pose on their annual hike up Pike's Peak, above Colorado Springs, El Paso County, Colorado. They wear laced boots, striped, knit hats, and tall socks; one holds skis and a dog; another has a bedroll on his back.
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mouse from merced
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Feb 10, 2013 - 02:11am PT
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15th Inf. training in Washington, WWII.
Searching for the what? Where?
We'll let them see the whites of our eyes and that's all.
And try to find the guys in this shot. I can't.
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mouse from merced
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BBA, thanks. I haven't visited the Tunnel Thread in weeks. Good stuff from a way-backer.
Here are some scans from old Sierra Club Bulletins & not necessarily related directly to Yosemite except by being in the same range or on the same continent.
and my favorite
All are taken from the SCB before it was up-sized in the fifties.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I dragged Mathew Brady up Half Dome where he took my picture...
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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this is the worst thread i've ever seen on this supertopo! :) just kidding..
great pictures. even better are the indan shots.
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stonefly
Social climber
Alameda, California
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Reads "Tuolumne Pass" on back of print. ex-Lewis Clark. Photo c.1929
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BBA
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Here are three photos from 1928-1929. My grandfather went to work for the Yosemite Park and Curry Company in 1927. His car got up to the valley, probably driven by his son. My grandfather was challenged to the extreme when it came to driving. The car just sat there in the Old Village in front of the Sentinel Hotel gathering dust or snow, depending on the season.
A film crew showed up to do some work on a serial, something quite popular then, and my grandfather was given to show them around. A big attraction in movies way back when was a car going off a cliff. One thing led to another...
The car gathering snow
My grandfather interacting with the film's stars (he's on the ground)
With all the interaction, his payoff was to sell the car to the film company and they shoved it off a cliff, probably on one of the roads leading out of Big Meadow (West of the Valley).
I mentioned a link earlier in this thread, and full details of this little story are there on page 24-29.
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mouse from merced
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Mar 10, 2013 - 04:16am PT
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Avery Burns Collection.
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BBA
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Mar 11, 2013 - 08:55am PT
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These shots are of a hike up Half Dome in August 1928 by my Mom and two friends. Two things are notable about the trip, the trail apparently went by Lost Lake which is far from its current location, and aside from the girls, no one was on the cables.
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donini
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Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 11, 2013 - 09:03am PT
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I have some old black and white pictures of getting across the bergshrund onto to the rock the first time i did El Cap. It was definetly the crux....good thing that the glacier is gone and today's climbers don't have to deal with it.....definetly R. I'll see if i can find them and get them scanned.
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mouse from merced
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Mar 11, 2013 - 09:04am PT
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Bill, that was a wonderful share: Everyone should get to lace on a pair of the boots the girls are sporting!
Jim, don't tell me you lost the slides from the earlier ice age, please!
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donini
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Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 11, 2013 - 09:15am PT
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Still can't find them, i think they may have gone down with the Ark.
Or, then, did the Ark go down?
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mouse from merced
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Mar 11, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
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Edge
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New Durham, NH
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Mar 12, 2013 - 06:37am PT
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I just found this book that I forgot I even owned. 'The binding is in pretty rough shape, but I think it deserves a gentle read-through.
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BBA
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Mar 12, 2013 - 09:48am PT
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In researching Yosemite in the 1930's, I came across a book by Fernando Peñalosa (Yosemite in the 1930s) in which he said he spent hours and hours in the Library in the Museum building, and he had a photograph of the tables he sat at. Interestingly enough, these tables were made by my grandfather, William Kat, under contract with the Park Service and today reside at the Mariposa Museum along with some of the other furniture he made.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Mar 15, 2013 - 10:25pm PT
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Thanks for all the wonderfully pictures of Yosemite.
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mouse from merced
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This is John Burroughs, the most famous nature writer of his day.
http://www.pbs.org/harriman/1899/1899_part/participantburroughs.html
It's taken here locally, I'm told. Don't know where, but there's a prominent foothill sticking into the background...
I'm not sure who else is involved or in the picture or who took the picture, because wasn't paying much attention. This was lifted off a computer screen.
I was too involved in dickering for this photo, a 20 x 16 of the Upper Yo Fall in winter shot from a helicopter rented by a professional man named Clark, working for the University of California during the selection process for the newest UC campus location in the 90s.
It's not that back in the day at all, but it's way-cool!
Check the others out over at The Flames' camp.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
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Much thanks to Mouse et al. Who've been contributing such jewels to keep this thread going!
BBA: I love those trestle tables.
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mouse from merced
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I came across this batch in a one dollar bin in an antiques and collectibles mall. They are courtesy of Stranded Oil of Oklahoma & Nebraska.
This spiral bound picture set was a promotion for Standard Oil Station, and Chevron Gas Stations in 1947. The idea was to collect pictures at gas stations as you were traveling, and filling up at the gas stations. Each is a scenic view from various parts of the country. So these images are from 1946-47, older than I.
Part ofThe See Your West Scenic View Series in all its rotogravure glory--somebody else got to these first or we'd have had some Yosemite shot, likely.
See ya, SOON.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 9, 2013 - 07:03pm PT
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Some really nice retouching to be seen in that last batch!
The faux signage hanging off of El Capitan upthread a ways is awfully cute as well.
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mouse from merced
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Apr 16, 2013 - 02:27pm PT
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Far, far away in time,
To Half Dome we climb.
An adventurous group around the time of the first world war's ending, from a book/album labeled 1918.
Second from left is Carmella Collins Johnson, who was Norton Johnson's first wife. Norton took this photo. He is Skip Johnson's adoptive father, who adopted young Skip at a late age. This is why Skip's house is a trove of old stuff.
Here's Yosemite Falls, same album.
Skip's a notorious motorcycle enthusiast and he likes old cars, too. Bikes are his collectibles, though.
He thinks the Indian in the Yosemite Museum's the one from El Portal's RR exhibit. He's probably right.
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mouse from merced
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Apr 24, 2013 - 03:28am PT
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Yosemite Indian Field Days - June Lake, in Mono County. Since the best Yosemite Indian baskets came from the Mono Lake Paiutes. Yosemite NPS held the Yosemite Field Days at June Lake by Mono Lake and every winner for Yosemite Indian baskets was always a Yosemite-Mono Lake Paiute. The majority of the basketmakers of Yosemite resided in both Yosemite and Mono Lake. They would go back and forth, like they had done for eons. Their parents lived mainly in Paiute areas or they did. They were mostly born around Mono Lake and other Paiute areas. Not in Mariposa County...and not Miwok.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Apr 24, 2013 - 07:49am PT
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Great photos Mouse!!! I can't help but think.....those people on the cables are no longer here, the cables will soon (geologic time) be gone but Half Dome has " relative" permanence.
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mouse from merced
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Apr 29, 2013 - 04:32am PT
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Eureka! I managed to find the one I really wanted to find, and there are three more waiting just like this one.
The Standard Oil See Your West Scenic Views Set, twenty-five different photos.
"Usmati, meaning grizzly bear."This thing's older than Donini by less than two years.
And we are back to Valley View.
Quite a spin.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
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From Along Sierra Trails by Joyce and Josef Muench, 1947.
Thanks, Sierra (Nevada optional) Ledge Rat!
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mouse from merced
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Again, imagery calls
Again, imagery falls
Into my lap.
"Oh, Ansel," imagery calls,
"the Westons are here!"
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
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Of course this is Arrowhead Arete, AS WE NOW KNOW IT.
This struck me as I read "YOSEMITE" on the caption, but that was it, there was nothing to indicate the name of this particular feature, just that one word.
I then realized that this photo must have been taken by someone unfamiliar with the local name of what is called Castle Cliffs, commonly. I believe it is an older name than Arrowhead, but would have to check.
Ansel may not have known or he may have said something. One can only speculate.
Leading to this other by the Westons. I think it is of the Minarets.
edit: Next morning, as I am reading Charis Weston's description of the travel and events covered in California and the West, it comes out that Weston was the recipient of a $2,000 Guggenheim Fellowship, the first photographer to ever be awarded one. It is no wonder when people had been saying things about Weston and his work such as, "Photography is beginning to be photography, for until now it has only been art."
During this period the Westons made seventeen separate trips, travelled over 16,000 miles, and Weston made 1,260 negatives. A second year was funded by the Guggenheim based on this record of accomplishment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Weston
When you look at the work of Muench and Weston, the one is a tourism promoter and his wife's prose is loaded, bloated in fact, with adjectives and adverbs and most shots are "stock" views.
In the case of Charis' writing, she tells the story in an engaging manner, and the photos are much more artistic and creative. Their reproduction is far superior, obviously.
We need both kinds of people, tourists and artists, just as there's a place for each type of photograph. It's a huge world, just seems to be shrinking.
Again thanks to Skip Johnson of Merced, for the loan of this book.
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mouse from merced
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Isaac Minor owned a quarry. This granite boulder was native to Humboldt Co. and was split and sectioned by imported Italian quarrymen for use in Minor's mausoleum. Due to his dying out of the area, he is believed to be the only member of his family not buried in the tomb.
Believe It or I'm Telling Mummy!
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2013 - 09:27am PT
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Much thanks Mouse, for fattening the album and pasting the historic prose!
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throwpie
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Yours truly, Badger Pass
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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May 10, 2013 - 08:38am PT
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The informed know Throw is a throw back to the way back. He's also one of the balancinest guys in the land and can he land them, whether on a skateboard, a skim board, a surf board, a sail board, and on snow boards, I'm not sure, but those boards he's on at Bagger are about to be schooled.
1958? You were like seven or eight. Tubular.
Jim Shirley posted these to me hier soir. He writes about his father, Howard Shirley, who recently ceased being here:
"Howard worked one summer as a packer's helper. I think this was between 1936 and 1938 (he would have been 17-19 years old). It looks like these pics came from a trip with our grandpa Frank Shirley. I'm not sure where the trip went but my guess would be to Rae Lakes and the Kearsarge Pinnacles. It should be possible to tell from the photos, if we could go to these places and compare them.
The wrangler is Howard (almost certainly) and the good buds are Howard and Frank (unless I am sadly mistaken). The hunter looks like Frank holding our old Marlin 22 rifle (which I still have).
I tell my kids that they have a long history of mountain-lovers in their ancestry. John Mattson has lantern slides showing Frank's dad, Henry Shirley, on a trip in the 20's. So Henry, Frank, Howard, me, and Kat and Mary cover 5 generations."
Thank you, Jim and family.
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tioga
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pac northwest
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May 10, 2013 - 11:32am PT
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Wow about the sad fate of a Medicine Woman...
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