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Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 28, 2013 - 01:50pm PT
Just bought an iphone about 3 days ago, and have been studying it intensely ever since. Someone made a application where people can input photos and details of boulder problems - http://iphone.bouldr.net/ - reminds me of the supertopo effort.

Would be nice to have a topo map and panoramic photo of the route detail on longer routes too. Imagine being on pitch 15 of some obscure route on El Cap and pulling up all the beta on your phone.

That's the problem with technologies, they keep changing and you have to move with it or become obsolete. Now they just need to make the phone batteries last longer and the screens so they don't crack, upgrade camera to go-pro resolution and you'd have a great climbing tool.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 28, 2013 - 01:56pm PT
I have never been a big fan of Apple, but my wife has an iphone and last night whilst driving down the freeway I logged into the ST and linked out to watch the Dean Potter video, all without any problem except for the size of the display and my fingers being too big and clumsy to navigate the tiny keyboad.

Pretty cool I must admit.

Apparently, you can link up an iPad through the iphone which reduces the magniturde of the two problems above, but costs more (the Apple solution).

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 28, 2013 - 02:15pm PT
It shouldn't cost any more to "link" the ipad through the iphone. As long as your iPhone plan allows for the use of Hot Spot you can then wifi your iPad to your iPhone and watch on the bigger screen.

It's what I do....
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jan 28, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
zBrown - an android phone/tablet will easily do anything an Apple product will do, at a fraction of the price.
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 28, 2013 - 02:22pm PT
Just bought an iphone about 3 days ago, and have been studying it intensely ever since

Me too. Had a high-end Android and am never going back. The retina display is mindbending. And as a product of excellence in industial design, it belongs in MOMA's collection. I have not had any of the Apple kool-aid, but the iPhone is a damn fine tool.

PS -- as for price -- got mine for .99 cents, but I had to pay the tax (~$50.00). And my monthly service charge went down from my LG Andriod.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2013 - 02:25pm PT
zBrown, its an incredible toy. Maybe just another thing to distract you and keep you from paying attention to real life. You can get an iphone 3GS for about $75 on e-bay, then I am using net10 for service, which is unlimited voice and data for $50 per month. There are dozens of features on it that are a big technical leap for me - for example, pandora lets you listen to practically every song in the world for free, there's a GPS program in it, you can do video calls with skype, make video playlists with youtube, and thousands of other things. It instantly became my favorite possession. Haven't used this forum yet but that will probably follow me around everywhere now, too.
Some Random Guy

climber
San Franpsycho (a.k.a. a token of my extreme)
Jan 28, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
mountain project has an app for free at the moment. soon you will have to pay for it though. you can download whatever area you want and it is on your phone. that way you don't even need cell service. it has all the info that is on the website. beta/pics/topos/approach

http://www.mountainproject.com/mobileApps

i held out as long as i could before getting a smart phone or apple products. always thought they were way over priced. then i got an iphone 5. it's freakin' nice! the 4g lte is as about as fast as wifi. then i upgraded my failing pos windows computer. got an imac. i have now been assimilated. i'm all apple and will never go back. windows based systems are garbage! apple is pricy but you do get quality.
Some Random Guy

climber
San Franpsycho (a.k.a. a token of my extreme)
Jan 28, 2013 - 03:42pm PT
so this leads me to a suggestion for cmac.

you should make available all your topos for smart phones. pdf or some other versions that are optimized for smart phones. make them downloadable individually or as sets or groups of areas or something like that. or even just the electronic versions of the current books that can easily be browsed on a phone. buha! i expect some kickback buddy :)
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2013 - 03:51pm PT
Yes I posted it with cmac in mind. The mountain project app looks good but it looks like a closed system, ie someone else writes it and you read it. I like the wikipedia model better where there's community involvement and editing. Plus this website is really very simple and with just a few tweaks it would fit on an iphone screen. It's the future, for sure.
froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 28, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
The SuperTopo PDFs load just fine on iOS devices. Just drag them into iTunes and sync.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 28, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
I guess one of the questions is, Why isn't a phone an "app" on the iPad?

or is it?

The other is why no USB on the iPad?

briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Jan 28, 2013 - 04:15pm PT
The SuperTopo PDFs load just fine on iOS devices. Just drag them into iTunes and sync.

^this

I have the supertopo big walls book in PDF version and I can access it on iBooks on my phone. You don't even have to sink. Just email it yourself and open it in iBooks
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jan 28, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
I guess one of the questions is, Why isn't a phone an "app" on the iPad?

or is it?

The other is why no USB on the iPad?

You can download Skype to an iPad and you will have phone service

Here is a link for adding USB to the iPad

http://www.hypershop.com/iFlashDrive-vs-iUSBport-s/210.htm

zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 28, 2013 - 04:33pm PT
thanks John and nature
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Jan 28, 2013 - 05:35pm PT
PDFs are even better in adobe reader app. iBooks is all slow and clumsy!!

And the flip function is super annoying.

The 4g is really nice and had the same amazing camera as the 5!
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Jan 28, 2013 - 05:45pm PT
I guess one of the questions is, Why isn't a phone an "app" on the iPad


There is no SIM card in an iPad. Probably some rf hardware missing too? Not sure if wireless is the same standard as cell yet these days.

The other is why no USB on the iPad?

That's apple for ya...
Some Random Guy

climber
San Franpsycho (a.k.a. a token of my extreme)
Jan 28, 2013 - 05:51pm PT
yeah i thought about emailing pdf's to myself and opening them but then i also thought that the viewing would be crappy and didn't bother trying it. thought there might be resolution problems. guess not! awesome i'm gonna try it right now.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Jan 28, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
Get adobe PDF too
froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 28, 2013 - 05:55pm PT
There is no SIM card in an iPad.

There is on the "cellular" models (not on the WiFi only models). .
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Jan 28, 2013 - 05:57pm PT
There you go. I bet they are more expensive?
Some Random Guy

climber
San Franpsycho (a.k.a. a token of my extreme)
Jan 28, 2013 - 06:01pm PT
$130 across the board more expensive. just checked out of curiosity
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 28, 2013 - 06:19pm PT
A case will help a lot to prevent damage. I have a Speck candyshell on my iPhone but a Griffin Survivor protects better (I got one for my iPad after my kids broke the screen).

Top of the line Android and iOS devices are both great and both similar in cost. Pros and cons for both. I like the open access of Android, my old iPhone was jailbroken (you break into the OS and can add apps not approved by apple) but I haven't needed it so I don't know if I can with my new iPhone).

The biggest advantage of Apple for me is ease of use and time savings (because it's easy to figure out and so many things can happen automatically). I can take photos of a climb and walk in the door to my house and it syncs automatically over wifi, I can turn on my TV with AppleTV and my photos are there ready to be viewed. The photos and other stuff like contacts, calendars, bookmarks, etc. sync through iCloud so my wife's phone and my iPad are also automatically updated. You can probably do all that stuff with Android but I doubt it's as easy and quick to setup.

One thing Android can't do is free instant messages with almost all my friends and families that are on iOS devices with iMessage, I don't pay for a texting plan. And facetime is a great easy to use video conferencing tool. I know Android or even other apps do it, but my folks and my inlaws can use facetime, it's super easy.

Apples customer service is also awesome. I brought my iPad in to an apple store with a cracked screen and even though it was caused by an impact they replaced it on the spot. Of course I sweet talked the girl there and they could have charged me, but a lot of other people I know have been well taken care of by Apple.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Jan 28, 2013 - 06:37pm PT
Griffin Survivor protects better

I have one. They are bomber. ya the phone is a little fat and the edges can be hard to get to and the touchscreen, but once you get used to it, it's bomber. Protects the camera too.

my phone feels naked without it.
Some Random Guy

climber
San Franpsycho (a.k.a. a token of my extreme)
Jan 28, 2013 - 06:47pm PT
the fet, sounds like you've been assimilated as well!

awwwww snap. i just put the valley super topo book on my iphone and it looks good. all the detail is there. views great with the retina display. crystal clear.

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zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 28, 2013 - 11:22pm PT
$130 across the board more expensive. just checked out of curiosity

and what's the combined cost of an iPad and iphone


and is it necessarily $130 more in cost

I don't know, just thinking out loud



OT: Doesn't it frustrate you when you pause a process; forget that you paused it and come back 4 hours later and wonder why it hasn't finished?
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 28, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
Apples customer service is also awesome. I brought my iPad in to an apple store with a cracked screen and even though it was caused by an impact they replaced it on the spot. Of course I sweet talked the girl there and they could have charged me, but a lot of other people I know have been well taken care of by Apple.

Yep. In this respect Apple is sort of the Patagonia of cellphones.
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Jan 29, 2013 - 07:12am PT
BEWARE!

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/01/the-most-ridiculous-law-of-2013-so-far-it-is-now-a-crime-to-unlock-your-smartphone/272552/

the penalty?

$500,000 for some "first-time offenders"
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 29, 2013 - 09:24am PT
Now, who is the beneficiary of such a law. I thought Congress was in a state of permanent gridlock. This one must be very important to have gotten through.
portent

climber
Jan 29, 2013 - 09:29am PT



Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside

Jan 28, 2013 - 11:19am PT
zBrown - an android phone/tablet will easily do anything an Apple product will do, at a fraction of the price.

That's bullshit unless you maybe have a Samsung galaxy, complete bullsh#t.

Fraction of the price maybe but that's about it.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 29, 2013 - 09:46am PT
^i have one of those Samsungs. May be time for a mammoth 'phone off slap down'.

Apple iPad jumps to 128GB, starting at $799

It's still the fourth-generation device, but beefier. A cellular-enabled version of the higher-capacity iPad costs $929.

portent

climber
Jan 29, 2013 - 09:52am PT
Ha you made a good choice. I had three different androids and the most they did was make calls and send emails. Couldn't get videos to load to save my life and the cameras for the most part are garbage. You dodged a bullet with the Samsung!! :)
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 29, 2013 - 09:54am PT
zBrown.... consider the source


portent +10
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Jan 29, 2013 - 11:22am PT
true, nature, always check the source. in this case the source is the atlantic magazine...are they part of the vast right-wing conspiracy, too?

if that's not good enough, you can click the link in the article to read the initial alert from the geeks at live science http://www.livescience.com/26541-unlocking-cellphones-becomes-illegal.html

if you're still suspicious, try this link that explains how unlocking phones became legal not too long ago http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/10/jailbreaking-now-legal-under-dmca-for-smartphones-but-not-tablets/

here's another link of how members of congress are trying to prevent unelected bureaucrats from acquiring de facto legislative power: http://cei.org/news-releases/reins-act-introduced-house?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LibertarianBlog+(Libertarian+Blog+Place);

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 29, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
What? And deal with the ethical quagmire surrounding an iFlash vs. an iOnsight vs. an iRedpoint?

No thanks!

Although, if the boobs thread were still around, it could help with training...

Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jan 29, 2013 - 03:15pm PT
I will admit that Apple does make a nice product. However I have a problem with the business model of making everything proprietary. iTunes is a great example. Apple screwed the pooch when they sued Franklin in the early 80s. Apple computers lost market share and IBM took over the computer market as a direct result.

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