anyone familiar with Cold Cold World alpine climbing packs?

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zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 16, 2012 - 08:41pm PT
looking for a new pack, and they looked nice.

http://www.coldcoldworldpacks.com/intro.htm
Captain...or Skully

climber
Dec 16, 2012 - 08:44pm PT
Solid stuff. No frills.
Salamanizer

Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
Dec 16, 2012 - 08:46pm PT
Yeah, they kick ass! Last pack you'll ever need. Nothing has come close to quality in the last 25 years.
zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2012 - 09:04pm PT
ZZZUUUPPP Locker?

i'm back to work, and hope to be back on the stone soon.
ncrockclimber

climber
The Desert Oven
Dec 16, 2012 - 09:19pm PT
BOMBER!

Made by hand in the USA by a climber. You call the number on the website, Randy, the owner answers the phone. You want custom work, talk with him about it and he will do it for a reasonable price. These packs are not loaded with BS features you see at REI, but instead built to be used and last forever. To put it anther way, I consider my CCW Chernobyl to be one of the best gear purchases I have ever made.
ruppell

climber
Dec 16, 2012 - 09:22pm PT
Bought the chernobyl about ten years ago. Finally retired it last year. It did everything I needed it to and then some. I climbed well over 200 days a year for four of those years and it was with me every time. So yeah I'd say those packs are as solid as they come.
Fletcher

Trad climber
The rock doesn't care what I think
Dec 16, 2012 - 09:26pm PT
Simple, clean, super bomber durable, and beautifully made. One thing to note is I believe none of the packs have stays in the frame, but a durable foam pad [corrected thanks to a note below... shows you how much I'm climbing these days!]. This might be an issue for some who want a bit more rigidity when carrying a load.

I have the ozone for a crag pack. My dream pack.

Eric
fosburg

climber
Dec 16, 2012 - 09:28pm PT
Very good, I own two, no complaints.
Rankin

Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
Dec 16, 2012 - 09:30pm PT
Never owned one but one of my oldest partners has one. A really sweet pack. Hard to beat the design and simplicity. Plus, the guy's woodblock prints are really cool. If I were an alpine climber I'd own one.
Brian

climber
California
Dec 16, 2012 - 09:54pm PT
My current pack is not CCW, but I owned a Chernobyl for about 12+ years, during which it was put to heavy dirtbag, climbing more days than not, guiding when not climbing kind of use. Bomber pack. Highly recommended.
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Dec 16, 2012 - 10:23pm PT
highly recommended. great packs made in a great shop by a great climber. CCW packs are arguably the realest of the real-deal. You cannot possibly go wrong.
JMC

climber
the land of milk and honey
Dec 16, 2012 - 11:12pm PT
Great, solid & simple packs. Awesome woodblock artist too.
David Knopp

Trad climber
CA
Dec 16, 2012 - 11:23pm PT
Great packs. Own two, use em all the time. But, contrary to what someone posted above, they do not have a plastic frame sheet, only a foam bivy pad. But they can still carry heavy loads if packed well. Plus, made in the USA!
Ezra Ellis

Trad climber
North wet, and Da souf
Oct 25, 2014 - 10:32am PT
Amazing quality made in the usa!!!!
Randy is great!!!!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Oct 25, 2014 - 12:53pm PT
Like.

Want.
GrahamJ

climber
In the rain
Oct 25, 2014 - 02:04pm PT
The best. Randy will work with you for some minor custom alterations if you want. Awesome awesome packs. Buy one (or two) and be happy.
mongrel

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Oct 25, 2014 - 04:01pm PT
Yet another big vote for CCW packs. My Chernobyl is still going strong after 12-15 years (longer?) of thrashing in the alpine, ice, cragging. Very functional design. Carries surprisingly well for such a simple and unreinforced design (just a folded up internal foam pad which can be removed for a rude bivy).
David Knopp

Trad climber
CA
Oct 25, 2014 - 04:30pm PT
Still using my chaos for multi day climbing trips. And kinda super light back packing. 15 years old it is, going strong!
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Oct 25, 2014 - 04:34pm PT
Another thumbs up for CCW packs. Clean, no frills and functional. Just wish they had an option for side water bottle pockets.
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Oct 27, 2014 - 10:19am PT
Seems I've only heard good things about CCW, though you might also look at CiloGear, built in Portland OR. Their 30L Worksack is more than a pound lighter than the Chernobyl and very well thought of.
GrahamJ

climber
In the rain
Nov 9, 2014 - 10:14pm PT
Cilo's 30L worksack may be lighter, but it's also smaller (30L pack vs ~50L) and won't last nearly as long. My 60L worksack lasted all of a 6 months, the replacement 45L worksack lasted ~ a year before it started to crack up, finally died a year after that. My chernobyl (which was actually lighter than my 45L worksack) is now 4 years old and gets more use than my worksacks ever did and still looks brand new. Don't f*#k around, buy the best.
E Robinson

climber
Salinas, CA
Nov 9, 2014 - 10:37pm PT
I love my Ozone...it's as close to perfection as it gets.
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Nov 9, 2014 - 10:41pm PT
I still have my Chernobyl from the late eighties/early nineties...one of the few packs I brought to India and keep here. I use it for everything. Second best pack I ever had.

My favorite got ripped off in Yosemite years ago. I think it was an old Ballistic cloth Gramicci. I know I had a Gramicci haul bag from BITD that was ballistics...

Spiny Norman

Social climber
Boring, Oregon
Jul 9, 2015 - 02:49pm PT
The Cilogear stuff is very versatile, and carries really, really well… but it's not particularly well-constructed — at least, for the money — and my 30L Work Sack weighs more than spec. Not vastly more, but let's just say it's nicer to be surprised when a piece of gear weighs less than spec. And that it does not often happen.

D. Burns's experience is the same:
http://coldthistle.blogspot.com/2012/04/climbing-packs-part-2.html

The short version: don't believe posted specs unless you've measured yourself, using a known-accurate instrument.
Ezra Ellis

Trad climber
North wet, and Da souf
Oct 1, 2016 - 04:24pm PT
Bump for the real deal!!
For nut again
LuckyPink

climber
the last bivy
Oct 1, 2016 - 06:12pm PT
Randy customer me one just for the asking. Perfect pack. Lasting quality.
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Oct 1, 2016 - 06:23pm PT
If I may quote myself from almost four years ago:


Dec 16, 2012 - 10:23pm PT
highly recommended. great packs made in a great shop by a great climber. CCW packs are arguably the realest of the real-deal. You cannot possibly go wrong.
aliebling

climber
San Francisco, CA
Oct 1, 2016 - 09:38pm PT
Agreed. The best alpine pack you're likely to find for the money - certainly the best alpine pack made by a fellow climber here in the U.S. My Chernobyl has been hauled up el cap, gone climbing and skiing in the alps, fallen down ice slopes, overloaded and abused and still looks like new. Again, fabulous and built by an actual climber, not a factory in China.
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Oct 2, 2016 - 12:49pm PT
"Brings to mind insane and pathetic homeless people". WOW! Most are not that and probably came from sane and healthy backgrounds.
If yer alpine climbing with less than 20 lbs packs yer doing pretty good!
Love my ColdCold World, never wished I had another pack in the backcountry and it would be my choice if I went homeless!
Peace
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