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Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 9, 2012 - 11:15am PT
So looking at Prak Rats post about the Christmas card and the presidents dog, as per norm i seem the usual racist angles being played. Ive been called a racist on here ten thousand times in the politard threads and not once was it actually valid.

First and foremost, when i looked at the post, i thought,, cool- a pooch having fun in the snow. No i didnt think a BLACK dog in front of the whitehouse meant ANYTHING whatsoever, and my favorite dogs are BLACK LABS.


My current pooch be black and white. This should be proof positive that im well beyond racism..;-)


The angles being played over and over here dont even deal with the actual issue which IS CULTURAL-ISM.. Its NOT the color of ones skin that defines the character. More likely it is cultural differences that are at odds.

When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result. They begin to take on the look and feel of those third world areas from whence they came. And being illegals and un documented people, they tend to flock amongst those of the like nature. And then comes "ghettos" and slums if you will for a lack of a better wording while property values fall..

In Carson city, it has been quite evident over the past ten years of the areas where most of the illegals, gangs, and other undocumented people now live. Complete sections of town - and for the most, the landscape, trees -lawns and plants are killed off to make room for multiple cars from multiple familys in one residence. Break ins and police reports STACK up in these areas as well, putting a significant burden upon local LEOs.. Trash is piled where ever, or dumped where ever, because thats they way they did it in TJ.. They have illegitimate businesses that they advertise by folding traffic barriers and hand written signs. Ive seen these folks go to the river and dump their trash right out onto the ground. Ive seen them being busted by game wardens for having fifty fish over the legal limit and no fishing licenses. Because thats they way the did it in Mexico, or Brazil..

In the Bay area, the nightly news rarely fails to mention the latest shootings, drive bys, and dead bodies found from this exact same CULTURAL influence.


The many good and legal folks that immigrated here to be part of America ISNT the problem. Thats how America came to be. What IS the problem is the CUTURAL influnces of those that come here just for the money or benefits, unwilling to be part of America, but rather a seperate faction that have so far been quite negative. Three generations of the same family that dont even speak the accepted standard language says something too.



Ill accept the CULTURAL-ist label, but NOT the racist label.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:18am PT
First and foremost, when i looked at the post, i thought,, cool- a pooch having fun in the snow. No i didnt think a BLACK dog in front of the whitehouse meant ANYTHING whatsoever, and my favorite dogs are BLACK LABS.

But when you see Obama do you think BLACK PRESIDENT? Nobody accused you of being biased in regards to the color of a dog's coat.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 11:20am PT
no just an inept one..
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:20am PT
Sigh - it really isn't a matter of what you'll 'accept'. Dude, you seriously need to move somewhere whitey'er, you know like northern New Hampshire.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:25am PT
Inept compared to Snatch or Romney? hahahahaaaaa... Ron, I hope we never meet... I enjoy the mental picture I have of you as a good ol' desert rat who just says stuff to get people riled up but has way too much experience to honestly believe that crap.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 11:29am PT
Wes,, thats fine and dandy, as i havent really wanted to meet you anyhoo. Even though i stuck up for your return here.

I dont give a rip if you believe it or not, but those a blatant facts. Why else do you think the bay area has a NIGHTLY tally of killings.???

Why do YOU think complete areas in carson are now known as the local barrios?



Why do you think my folks old place should have a revolving door put on it???


fyi i have MANY mexican friends. They tend to agree with me 100%.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:36am PT
inept

 1. without skill or aptitude for a particular task or assignment; maladroit: He is inept at mechanical tasks. She is inept at dealing with people.
2. generally awkward or clumsy; haplessly incompetent.
3. inappropriate; unsuitable; out of place.
4. absurd or foolish: an inept remark.

 tell me this isn't your view of all non-white folks.

If you were at all critical you'd know that this president is magnitudes more equipped for the job than anyone in the buche administration.

It takes a real troll to post up this thread.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:40am PT
When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result.

Kinda like when all them dirty wops piled into New York. Or the polacks and krauts dirtying up Chicago. Yup, those disgusting subhumans sure did wreck every place they invaded, didn't they?

They brought their criminal gangs with them, and filled the headlines with murders. And not only that, they smelled bad, ate weird food, crowded into rundown tenements...

Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:45am PT
ghost tactfully omitted the Irish, the English, the bohunks, the Jews, the...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:47am PT
Why else do you think the bay area has a NIGHTLY tally of killings.???

uh, cuz its a highly populated area in the US, where guns are easier to come by than food stamps?

Why do YOU think complete areas in carson are now known as the local barrios?

Because barrio is Spanish for neighborhood?

Don't get me wrong... I enjoy interacting with you. I just prefer to believe your perspective is broader than you let on.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:48am PT

"ghost tactfully omitted the Irish, the English, the bohunks, the Jews, the..."...

As well as CANADIANS...

A people unlike ours here in the grand US of A...





EDITED:

This is a funny:



"Why do YOU think complete areas in carson are now known as the local barrios?

Because barrio is Spanish for neighborhood?
...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:49am PT
Don't forget those damn injuns...
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:50am PT
When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result.

I am sure that many a Chippewa, Sioux, Navajo, and the multitudes of other neighborhood tribes would agree with that!




Donald Thompson

Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:51am PT
I live in a low to middle class suburban area 25 miles from LA that is overwhelmingly Hispanic and very little of the blight you mentioned is evident here.
Once in a while a large family will move and dump whatever they don't want right on the curb or on the lawn. Other examples of piggish- ness are abundant,as well as crime and low educational attainment.
The bottom income level in every race or ethnic / cultural identity behaves this way, by in large.

The economy of the area you are living in has been attracting this income level, and the consequences would be the same if it were any other race or culture.
The reason there are so many poor Hispanics is because they are just recently from a dysfunctional third world country, and they have yet to enter the 'demographic transition ' which will lead to less population expansion- as other groups in the US have transitioned.
There are signs that this is happening in many parts of Latin America. For instance, the average age in Mexico has been going up. This is an indication that they are entering a "demographic transition ".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition


climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:54am PT
Poverty and the culture surrounding it seems to have many of the same traits throughout human experience regardless of race geographic location.

Overcrowded and low quality housing. Substance abuse, depression, low sanitation. High levels of violent crime. high pregnancy rates.

You can find these slum environments in every nation on earth and among ALL races.

this is just observational fact. Why it is so and how to help is among the deepest of issues to contemplate.

Racist sentiment is something else entirely. It seems to be a deeply embedded genetic predilection. One that can be reinforced or overcome depending on the individual. Something to do with the tribalistic nature of humanity. It also is found in every race and geography on earth. But it is also found among every socio economic strata of every society on earth.

It is a sickening trait in a modern society. It is common and I enjoy stomping on it every chance I get.

I have never called or considered Ron Racist however.

I do suspect TGT is.

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:54am PT
If you get over stressing the PC crap, Ron has a point. Here in VT we have a culture problem as well that comes from the cities south of us. We get the drug gangs from Albany NY , Springfield MA and Hartford CT. They come to VT and try to live the same way here that they lived in the city. It's turning some of our small citys and towns into shitholes. Don't know what the right answers or solutions Are. I do know that there is no need to bring that crap to such a beautifull and peacefull place.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:57am PT
Often decent parents will move with their children to do their best to get them away from the gang sh!t...

Problem is, many of the kids they're taking with them are in those gangs and thus the problems occur...

I watched it happen in the Lancaster/Palmdale area (a bedroom community to LA) some years back...

Now that area is over run with drug issues and gangs...




EDITED:

Southern Florida is another perfect example...


mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:59am PT
Ron isn't talking about "the drug gangs" he is talking about "the Mexicans" and "the Blacks." There is a big difference. He almost acknowledges the difference with his trite "I have MANY Mexican friends" comments, but continues to lump based on race rather than economic status, social mobility, income, etc. What is the definition of racism again?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:10pm PT

Well...

I obviously MISSED the landing zone...

LOL!!!...

QITNL

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:11pm PT
Credit: QITNL
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:25pm PT
Here's a tale of two cities - Seattle and San Bernardino.

San Bernardino has had twice as many murders this year than Seattle, yet Seattle has three times the population as San Bernardino.

What would explain that huge difference, besides demographics?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:27pm PT


Better aim...
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:29pm PT
I guess it's easier to work in some range time down here, where we see 300+ sunny days a year.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:33pm PT

Exactly!!!...

LOL!!!...

dirtbag

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:42pm PT
Same ol story.

Every generation, there is a new group of immigrants to bash.

It's a theme that is as American as apple pie.

locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:43pm PT


Somebody is back deleting...

The thread is shrinking...



dirtbag

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:45pm PT
Irish and Italian immigrants, back in the day, were heavily involved in gang activity of their own.

Is something wrong with their culture?

American settlers killed, raped, pillaged, and wrongfully imprisoned Native Americans by the tens of thousands.

Millions of Africans were enslaved by Americans.

Is something wrong with American culture?

Wanna keep playing ? We can do this all day long.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:51pm PT
we all dump into that thin blue/white stripe that sits just above the sea/land horizon...


probably isn't racist... since we all do it, maybe specie-ist
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:54pm PT
It has nothing to do with "the Mexicans."

Estimated median household income in 2009:
San Bernardino:
$35,978

Seattle:
$60,843

California:
$58,931
Estimated per capita income in 2009: $14,804

Washington:
$56,548
Estimated per capita income in 2009: $40,743

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Seattle-Washington.html#ixzz2EaeUbuOa
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 12:56pm PT

Disliking an idividual makes sense...

Disliking an entire race, does not...

At least, not to me...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 01:03pm PT
No,, Ron is not talking about any COLOR of skin period...This is a matter of conflicting CULTURES, not immigrants. Much of my blood came from immigrants long ago. Some of it is NA.

There are many "white trash" places here in Nevada as well and yes - that is also a cultural problem. Culture being predominantly METH.

The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES. Primarily considered behind the times, with lawlessness as a norm, and societal practices that are deemed un acceptable in most any other countries.

So you can expect that those cultures will come with the people. Living outside the law and documentation does nothing but grow the problem. Even communicable diseases that were once history here , have seen a resurgence.
This is also a cultural problem of the third worlds...

So Yes we do have "slums" that contain all manner of races here in the USA, so we certainly dont need help in adding to those.














The racist label has been severely mis- used for a long time now.
If the first act of someone entering this country is to knowingly break laws,,does this not speak a bit to that culture? And once here do those same people abide by local laws and cultures? The evidence says no. Gangs now thrive to the tune of nearly 400,000 - predominately illegals.
Regular HS flights of helos now patrol the wilds in most states- that is tax dollars going poof at an alarming rate! The general carson-Tahoe area is now under this radar and patrols, due to the cartel operations being discovered here now. Yet another UNDESIRABLE cultural nuance.


moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:11pm PT
I am planing to move to Nevada and you and I will be neighbors. I am Polish. Our culture is different than yours, i.e. we don't have the right to keep and bear arms. Please don't shoot me.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:20pm PT
Ron is troll

Everything I read from this guy screams of "we're better then they are". He makes it a point to mention that he is ___% native american, well isn't that something special? Does that give him cause for the claim that anyone wanting to come to this country after him and his family is wrong, out of bounds or over the line?


Bunch of shite, troll if you must.
To be homiest (honest) this is no better than some dumb-ass named LEB used to spew

Troll, pure troll


Wait….Ron… are you bluerag in disguise? You seem to have a very similar view of the world?
dirtbag

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:20pm PT

The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES. Primarily considered behind the times, with lawlessness as a norm, and societal practices that are deemed un acceptable in most any other countries.


Again Ron--what makes us so fukking great? Our culture has the blood on our hands, too--by the millions.

So learn some history and get over your smugness.

Edit: yeah, what Jingy just said, too.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 01:21pm PT
Moose,,,Yur more than welcome to move next to me! Ill teach ya how to shoot!;-)

If you come here to be part of America, and contribute positively towards desirable cultural habits,, cmon over!!!!!


I have good friends of every color and blend you can think of. Im Scottish, Irish, and Choctaw for the most.


Now for those of you mentioning ancient history such as slavery, i should inform you we have a partially black man in the whitehouse as President.

The Indian wars were also longer ago that any one living now. To excuse current happenings over guilt of the past ISNT going to help. Name me another first world country that allows such a flood of illegals in..?

Anyone can cross our southern border, from arabs to irish, but they do so for a reason. Then consider policies in place now that basically call them hands off by local authorities and things like blanket amnesties- you can surely expect that problem to increase drastically. So five years from now, the gang count could be approaching a million or more easily.. We are BROKE NOW. We cant even afford "our own" and the care there of. So how are "we" going to continue this trend?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:22pm PT
The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES.

Wow... just wow...

Name me another first world country that allows such a flood of illegals in..?

I've heard similar complaints about "rag heads" from ignorant Brits.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 01:27pm PT
why else are they called that Wes..?


Tell me there is no difference in a young 18 year old that grew up in suburban Redding, and one who grew up seeing be -headings, bodies littering streets and the like. That is a cultural difference. Thats WHY the Bay area has nightly tallies of dead. Thats also partially why gun sales are at all time highs. Their cultures are now changing ours.. THAT should be obvious to a blind man.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 01:30pm PT
ohhh, youi mentioned muslims?.. You mean like those four nice california guys that were headed for afghanny?? Yet MORE terorists trained right here.. Yeah,, our culture has been ripped a new one by those guys. TSA! HS,, NDAA2013,,cyber tapping, phone tapping, and the like. Third world cultural influence at work. Plain ugly truth.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 01:35pm PT
Polio, now present in the USA


Tuberculosis, now present and gaining in the USA

Small Pox, now present and gaining in the USA

A lot of hard work and dedication rid this country of these diseases long ago, but the third world influences here has brought those with them. Yet another "cultural" difference. Racism does not apply.




ps, for those that didnt just just on the obvious racist band wagon or self guilt trips,, I thank you..

I Ron Anderson have never taken any ones land, nor have i ever owned or would own a slave, nor do i judge anyone by the color of their skin. Nor have i committed crimes against my fellow man.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:37pm PT
Tell me there is no difference in a young 18 year old that grew up in suburban Redding, and one who grew up seeing be -headings, bodies littering streets and the like. That is a cultural difference. Thats WHY the Bay area has nightly tallies of dead. Thats also partially why gun sales are at all time highs. Their cultures are now changing ours.. THAT should be obvious to a blind man.

 I'll tell you there is a difference between what you have written and reality. In other words, you mention a kid growing up in Redding, and a kid growing up seeing beheadings and bodies littering streets…Then you mention the bay area and its crime rate as nightly.

Are you saying that crime is always committed by those nasty immigrants in their 400,000 person gangs?

You're are so full of shite I can smell it. And that is the only thing that should be obvious to a blind man.

Blue, you should be ashamed, but then again, this is kind of par for you.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:46pm PT
Culture:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby%27s_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_city_bombing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unibomber

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Eagan_Holmes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre


At least "the Mexicans" are killing people who cross them and not shooting 10's to 1000's of innocent people. Are you all about old school justice anyway... beating people up for retrobolting, etc? Or are you the kind of culturally refined white Uhmerkun who prefers to shoot up an office building or theater when you get upset?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:46pm PT


"At least "the Mexicans" are killing people who cross them and not shooting 10's to 1000's of innocent people."...

AMEN!!!...

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:51pm PT
I do suspect TGT is.

My black in laws might disagree.


But then your fellow "progressives" believe that "Chicago" is a racist code word.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 01:53pm PT
Well jingy,, your entitled to an opinion but ALL you do is bark insults. You havent disputed one fact ive listed, and there are many..

Heres a sample demographic for ya. All fact.

Among the people im close with in CC, there have been 6 incidents of : thefts , attempted robberies and stolen -abondoned cars, and drug activities.
ALL thus far, were perpetrated my mexican men, and in five of the six cases were also illegals. This includes a broad daylight attempted robbery in the parking lot of kragen auto. Sorry if you dont like that but that is none the less absolute fact.
The IHOP shooter was also mexican.. So if your in this small town and see these demographics, what is one to think? That its just too bad we took some of their land they had for 60 years way back when so this is OK, and acceptable? Do I las out at the white AND brown men for not letting themselves get robbed? Thats what the govt thinks.. Same ones that got us in the BROKE stage we are in now, might i add.

Billions are spent annually JUST by local LEO actions regarding this influence.



edit : Norton,, thank you for that very PC flowery culture reference. But culture goes far deeper than that.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:57pm PT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 01:59pm PT
bull sheet, i watch it almost every night..I posted a weeks tally on the old thread once. impressive it was.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:08pm PT
bull sheet, i watch it almost every night..I posted a weeks tally on the old thread once. impressive it was.

 Facts, to you, are things that other whites tell you in the parking lot of the local quick-stop in Nevada.

You say you watch it nightly… from Nevada?

Here you're ini Bay Area:
n the Bay area, the nightly news rarely fails to mention the latest shootings, drive bys, and dead bodies found from this exact same CULTURAL influence.

Here you're in Carson area:
In Carson city, it has been quite evident over the past ten years of the areas where most of the illegals, gangs, and other undocumented people now live. Complete sections of town - and for the most, the landscape, trees -lawns and plants are killed off to make room for multiple cars from multiple familys in one residence.


 Either you're full of shite (as I have stated) or you are clearly an omnipotent god type who can be everywhere are once.


Total troll.

I'm Done
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 02:13pm PT
thats good jingus,, and yeah i get the channel that shows the bay area news every night..its channel 21 here,, imagine that!!!!!Someday man will walk on the moon maybe too!

Ive mentioned that fifty times in these thread over the past couple of years. You guys either have burned your memory banks out, or are simply too simple...



edit: Norton,, it isnt lawlessness that made a small "resturant" in Carson close due to the pile of "unkonwn animal carcasses" piled out back rotting away. It was a CULTURAL thing, as thats what they did where they came from- it was "normal"..
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:16pm PT
What time is the Nightly Channel 21 Death Tally?

They are of all colors, but mostly illegal.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 02:18pm PT
comes on at 11:00 here.

seek your local guide.



edit: Norton,, Lets not waggle Bach , Mozart, Rembrandt or Picaso as the standard definition of culture. Your average person across the globe isnt of that class or culture.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:21pm PT


Thank fuking GUD Sambo's got closed down...

Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:22pm PT
Sambo's closed down?
QITNL

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:22pm PT
Ron Anderson Friendraiser...

May I have your attention please:

If Ron Anderson has any friends on this forum, could you please contact Ron Anderson immediately and tell him to step away from the computer, go outside and enjoy the afternoon, crack a Bud and watch some NFL, eat a burrito... ANYTHING will do ... or simply tell him to STFU NOW!!!

This has been a public service announcement sponsored by Save Ron Anderson. We will now return to our regular programming. Thank you.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:23pm PT
i watch it almost every night

Turn off your gawdamn TV and go meet your Mexican neighbors. People are way less likely to rip you off if they know you, regardless of skin color.



Since anecdotal data is being accepted... during my 25 years in Salt Lake City:

I had 3 guns pulled on me, by white dudes

got jumped on the streets 2 times by a truckload of white dudes

had my car broken into 3 times and the one time they busted the douche bags they were white

I had 2 bikes ripped off, one of which was found in my white neighbor's garage

when I lived in Rivercide, CA I would walk to the grocery store, T's tacos, etc. The streets were full of Hispanic folks. This one time, some dude axed me for the time... it was 1:30 am.

I had a Mexican friend who grew up in Grantsville, UT (look it up)... he got jumped and got the sh#t beat out of him on a weekly basis, by white trash redneck fuktards... maybe you should move to Grantsville Ron?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 02:30pm PT
I KNOW my mexican neighbors right across the street, their little girl was thrilled to crawl up on a bear a while back.. And guess what,, they are HAPPY to be here, American and productive. They came here for OUR CULTURE, as it should be..



QTNL,, i have many friends here. But thanks you for the plug. As you see,, even here the racist card is being flown over the "culturalist" card. And incorrectly.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:31pm PT
Here are some Cultural Facts...and some pc spin...


http://www.sambosrestaurant.com/

And then there was one, The Original Sambo's Restaurant.

The Original Sambo’s Restaurant is still family owned and operated by Chad Stevens,
the grandson of the Founder of Sambo's Restaurant, along with his wife Michelle. They invite you to stop in and say hello.

Over the years many myths and rumors abound about the "SAMBO'S" name -
its origin seemingly subject to many ideas as to how the restaurant got its name.

The fact is - SAM (the Founder) was a real person and BO (his partner) was a real person.

Sam is Sam Battistone and Bo is Newell Bohnett, known affectionately to his friends, family and associates as "Bo".
Despite all the other stories you may have heard - this is really how SAMBO'S got its name.
'The Story of Little Black Sambo' by Helen Bannerman was an afterthought. The SAMBO'S RESTAURANT
already was established before the children's story was discovered and used as part of a marketing promotion.

Sam actually had another restaurant on State St. in Santa Barbara called "Sammy's" when the original (and present)
property location (216 W. Cabrillo Blvd) became available.

From 1957 until around 1978, Sambo's was a growing part of the American landscape. For a number of reasons Sambo's
began to slow down and its transition from an innovative coffee cafe in Santa Barbara to a multi-million dollar corporation
began to take its toll - In August 1981 there were 1,117 restaurants in 47 states.

Some restaurants in the Northeastern part of the U.S. tried a new name - ' No Place Like Sam's ' in an attempt to reverse
a four-year tailspin. Sadly, in 1982 all but the original Sambo's in Santa Barbara closed their doors.

In 2012 The ORIGINAL Sambo's Restaurant will celebrate 55 years in business, on the beach !!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:33pm PT
Norton, I have some white friends too. They are good people. My white neighbors are out playing baskeetball with their kids... whooping and hollerin' like lunatics. I don't talk to them cuz they have a half-pipe and we ALL KNOW about sk8er culture.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
Norton,, we dont have 400,000 KNOWN WHITE gang members . They are of all colors, but mostly illegal. And Yes ive said we do have OUR OWN torubles here. But to let millions in that have the same cultural differences illegally entering this country will not help our CURRENT problems. I hate to tell you but neveda is at the bottom and that bottom continues to drop even though that guy you like won the election..
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 02:36pm PT
that would be , "sub-culture" wes...
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:37pm PT


"Sadly, in 1982 all but the original Sambo's in Santa Barbara closed their doors"...

That's interesting...

I thought they had all closed...

locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:38pm PT


"Norton,, we dont have 400,000 KNOWN WHITE gang members"...

We have even MORE than that...

Republicans...

LOL!!!...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
naw Locker,, they ALL voted for that NDAA 2013 law.. They are all thugs.

thanks to them, we now have on the books, a law which closely resembles those of the gestapo of old..





I have ALWAYS been in total support of good people no matter their color..

I gave up eight years with NDOT over two of my good Indian friends directly protecting them and their jobs, and paid the price with a retirement under a must arrest on sight order with the NHP against me and any NDOT property or work zones. All over helping a Piaute and a Washoe Indian from blatant racism from a new foreman.
sooooo, anyone calling me racist can,, you know,, kiss my rosey red...;-)
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
Nose?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 02:57pm PT
much farther south, and comprised of a different epidermal nature.
DanaB

climber
CT
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:09pm PT
**Kinda like when all them dirty wops piled into New York. Or the polacks and krauts dirtying up Chicago. Yup, those disgusting subhumans sure did wreck every place they invaded, didn't they?

They brought their criminal gangs with them, and filled the headlines with murders. And not only that, they smelled bad, ate weird food, crowded into rundown tenements...**

Yes, but all of that is nothing compared to the destruction that white protestants have visited on our society.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 03:15pm PT
so for some of you the logic is since we have our own gangs already why not welcome all the others out there as well that are even MORE VIOLENT in nature? really??

With that line of logic it would be ok for me to go into the valley and nutcracker and start bashing the snot out of it with pins every three feet calling it A1 for me right..? Hey sure its a step backwards but its all gud..
toadgas

Trad climber
los angeles
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:22pm PT
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well, RA at least is being honest about how he feels, seeing the degradation of his local neighborhoods first hand


my advice to the standard model "Caucasian Progressive with 4-6 Years of College Education"...go spend a few years living among the illegal peasantry in these degraded neighborhoods, and my guess is a few "racist sounding" thoughts may pop into your very own head; a natural human trait

most progressives are just pontificating from the safety of their gentrified or hipster or bohemian middle-upper class neighborhoods, and they preach only to the choir, saying shame to "rednecks" like Ron


it does not give Ron any comfort that because the Poles and Irish stank up the place in 1880, other groups have every right to do it NOW


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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 03:25pm PT
I had WILD times in high school as there were many Indians. There were jock groups , cowboy groups, stoners and indians. The inians fought the cowboy groups, the jocks fought the indians, the indians would come after the stoners. We even had the fire department show up at a large ruccus to hose us down once. About a month into my freshman year, i decided to enter the martial arts ASAP..Cuz you either got with it you got it.. The "culture" of Carson was quite different from Sparks at the time. Sparks was nearly ALL stoners. and mellohhwww..

Carson was the wild west in comparison in the early 70s.

Edit: BWAH! Eggzakly Toad! Only they were here in the late 1600s, already in cahoots with the locals to change em..;-) But if they hadnt,, someone else would have ----hehe..




i remember the moment well that i decided to take Karate,, while watching a fight, a LARGE Paiute from an infamous group of siblings, DROP KICKED me square in the junk just for fun out of nowhere. I nearly passed out and was sore for a week.. Fate had its way though and the year after high school i got to exact my revenge and then some on that same guy in a local bar one night. It was sweet. He hadnt changed a bit,, but I had..Hes now a permanent resident of the state pen.





edit: Look up CiudadJuarez in Mexico to see what has happened there. We fight other countries for such atrocities in the ME but ignore the plight and cartels that have taken mexico over. If theres any country WE should occupy to restore order, wouldnt that , being a bordering country, be more logical? Wouldnt THAT be better for the good mexican people?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 10, 2012 - 01:27pm PT
Tuba thefts are up.

"...the thefts are motivated by the growing popularity of banda, a traditional Mexican music form in which tubas play a dominant role."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/education/tuba-thefts-plague-california-schools.html?_r=0

I remember when Country Music became real popular. Nobody noted an abundance of banjos being ripped off then.

Demographic differences at work.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2012 - 01:33pm PT
a "plague" of tuba thefts.. Interesting wording..

Tubs go from 2000.00 on up to 7K or more. So i guess its easier and cheaper to steal them than rent them.. They are available for rent im sure. Yet another cultural difference in the negative.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 10, 2012 - 01:44pm PT
Hahaha... sk8ers are a subculture in the US, but gang bangers and drug dealers define third world culture. And you wonder why people call you a racist?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2012 - 01:53pm PT
no one ever said any such thing there Wessie.. What was said is that you get the BAD part of the cultures too. And yes skaters are a sub culture much like climbing.. People who label me racist are either racist themselves, full of guilt for nothing, or just to dense to read words and comprehend.


and FYI the CARTELS werent invented in Omaha.

dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Dec 10, 2012 - 02:34pm PT
No TGT, they will say your Black in-laws have been brainwashed and must not know who you really are. Because some minorities must be brainwashed if they don't understand that they are a victim of a white society.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Dec 10, 2012 - 02:44pm PT
it does not give Ron any comfort that because the Poles and Irish stank up the place in 1880, other groups have every right to do it NOW

Nope. And I wasn't implying that it should, or at least not in the short term. Just trying to point out that this is not a new problem. It's the same old problem but its hitting Ron in Carson City now, instead of your grandfather in Chicago in 1930.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 10, 2012 - 02:50pm PT
You stand corrected...

There are many "white trash" places here in Nevada as well and yes - that is also a cultural problem. Culture being predominantly METH.

The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES. Primarily considered behind the times, with lawlessness as a norm, and societal practices that are deemed un acceptable in most any other countries.

So you can expect that those cultures will come with the people.
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Dec 10, 2012 - 03:54pm PT
When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result. They begin to take on the look and feel of those third world areas from whence they came. And being illegals and un documented people, they tend to flock amongst those of the like nature. And then comes "ghettos" and slums if you will for a lack of a better wording while property values fall..

Yep, in the 19th century the whole friggin' city of New York was blighted with an Irish Catholic ghetto just like the one you describe above. That's why the Irish hate African Americans so much: they fought it out with them at the bottom in Boston and New York in the 19th century for the underclass jobs. The animosity has never gone away. Remember William Bonny (aka 'Billy the Kid')? He left Hell's Kitchen in New York, the largest Irish ghetto in the US, and moved out to Tombstone in New Mexico Territory. "Killed 21 (white) men for his 21 years, not counting N_ggas, Indians and Mexicans".

My point? It's been that way in the USA a long, long time. After maybe three generations, when they finally get into the middle classes and the professions, then THEY become WHITE like everyone else. A toughening process to be sure. Why did the Italians start the Mafia? Because everyone discriminated against them so they created their own protection organization.

But doesn't CVS today seem like it's a store in northern Mexico? Something about the service level and the variety of product choices. Makes you think the new global economy is spelled: POVERTY.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 10, 2012 - 04:26pm PT
It is only spelled POVERTY for 47% of Uhmerikuhns and 99% of the global population. For the rest it is spelled GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED FREE MARKET CAPITALISM.
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Dec 10, 2012 - 04:37pm PT
Culture? I think that it's all about income. Poor people have sh#t lives and do sh#t stuff. Have three jobs? Then no time to worry about where you throw your trash or how many fish you have.

People bring their income with them but when people start to make less, they too move to cheaper places. Where? The crap part of town of course.

Since it has all to do with income and nothing to do with native culture, I would say that you are income-ist.

But really, you have to be prejudice to be an -ist. Racist, sexist, culture-ist, whatever. You need to learn of a persons race, sex, culture, etc., and then make a judgement about them without knowing any other information. Are you that? Do you hate them because of where they came from regardless of how they act or do you see how they act and then hate them for that?

Dave
damo62

Social climber
Brisbane
Dec 10, 2012 - 04:43pm PT
R A, do you really think climbing is a culture?

"That's why the Irish hate African Americans so much"-----wow, can you back that one up? If not then back off!

"Why did the Italians start the Mafia? Because everyone discriminated against them so they created their own protection organization."-------get a clue, read a little.
Psilocyborg

climber
Dec 10, 2012 - 04:50pm PT
You are a first rate moron if you don't realize people manipulate your own white guilt.

Xenophobia is a HUMAN trait. It doesn't belong to anyone, it belongs to all of us. We will never over come it. As we try to overcome it, here come the ass f*#ks that will manipulate, lie, cheat, and steal. These are HUMAN traits. Black white brown red we are all xenophobic, we are all lazy, evil, good, loving, hating, jealous ect ect ect
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