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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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First and foremost, when i looked at the post, i thought,, cool- a pooch having fun in the snow. No i didnt think a BLACK dog in front of the whitehouse meant ANYTHING whatsoever, and my favorite dogs are BLACK LABS.
But when you see Obama do you think BLACK PRESIDENT? Nobody accused you of being biased in regards to the color of a dog's coat.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Sigh - it really isn't a matter of what you'll 'accept'. Dude, you seriously need to move somewhere whitey'er, you know like northern New Hampshire.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Inept compared to Snatch or Romney? hahahahaaaaa... Ron, I hope we never meet... I enjoy the mental picture I have of you as a good ol' desert rat who just says stuff to get people riled up but has way too much experience to honestly believe that crap.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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inept
 1. without skill or aptitude for a particular task or assignment; maladroit: He is inept at mechanical tasks. She is inept at dealing with people.
2. generally awkward or clumsy; haplessly incompetent.
3. inappropriate; unsuitable; out of place.
4. absurd or foolish: an inept remark.
tell me this isn't your view of all non-white folks.
If you were at all critical you'd know that this president is magnitudes more equipped for the job than anyone in the buche administration.
It takes a real troll to post up this thread.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result.
Kinda like when all them dirty wops piled into New York. Or the polacks and krauts dirtying up Chicago. Yup, those disgusting subhumans sure did wreck every place they invaded, didn't they?
They brought their criminal gangs with them, and filled the headlines with murders. And not only that, they smelled bad, ate weird food, crowded into rundown tenements...
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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ghost tactfully omitted the Irish, the English, the bohunks, the Jews, the...
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Why else do you think the bay area has a NIGHTLY tally of killings.???
uh, cuz its a highly populated area in the US, where guns are easier to come by than food stamps?
Why do YOU think complete areas in carson are now known as the local barrios?
Because barrio is Spanish for neighborhood?
Don't get me wrong... I enjoy interacting with you. I just prefer to believe your perspective is broader than you let on.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Don't forget those damn injuns...
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result.
I am sure that many a Chippewa, Sioux, Navajo, and the multitudes of other neighborhood tribes would agree with that!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Poverty and the culture surrounding it seems to have many of the same traits throughout human experience regardless of race geographic location.
Overcrowded and low quality housing. Substance abuse, depression, low sanitation. High levels of violent crime. high pregnancy rates.
You can find these slum environments in every nation on earth and among ALL races.
this is just observational fact. Why it is so and how to help is among the deepest of issues to contemplate.
Racist sentiment is something else entirely. It seems to be a deeply embedded genetic predilection. One that can be reinforced or overcome depending on the individual. Something to do with the tribalistic nature of humanity. It also is found in every race and geography on earth. But it is also found among every socio economic strata of every society on earth.
It is a sickening trait in a modern society. It is common and I enjoy stomping on it every chance I get.
I have never called or considered Ron Racist however.
I do suspect TGT is.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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If you get over stressing the PC crap, Ron has a point. Here in VT we have a culture problem as well that comes from the cities south of us. We get the drug gangs from Albany NY , Springfield MA and Hartford CT. They come to VT and try to live the same way here that they lived in the city. It's turning some of our small citys and towns into shitholes. Don't know what the right answers or solutions Are. I do know that there is no need to bring that crap to such a beautifull and peacefull place.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Ron isn't talking about "the drug gangs" he is talking about "the Mexicans" and "the Blacks." There is a big difference. He almost acknowledges the difference with his trite "I have MANY Mexican friends" comments, but continues to lump based on race rather than economic status, social mobility, income, etc. What is the definition of racism again?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Here's a tale of two cities - Seattle and San Bernardino.
San Bernardino has had twice as many murders this year than Seattle, yet Seattle has three times the population as San Bernardino.
What would explain that huge difference, besides demographics?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I guess it's easier to work in some range time down here, where we see 300+ sunny days a year.
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dirtbag
climber
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Same ol story.
Every generation, there is a new group of immigrants to bash.
It's a theme that is as American as apple pie.
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dirtbag
climber
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Irish and Italian immigrants, back in the day, were heavily involved in gang activity of their own.
Is something wrong with their culture?
American settlers killed, raped, pillaged, and wrongfully imprisoned Native Americans by the tens of thousands.
Millions of Africans were enslaved by Americans.
Is something wrong with American culture?
Wanna keep playing ? We can do this all day long.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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we all dump into that thin blue/white stripe that sits just above the sea/land horizon...
probably isn't racist... since we all do it, maybe specie-ist
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Ron is troll
Everything I read from this guy screams of "we're better then they are". He makes it a point to mention that he is ___% native american, well isn't that something special? Does that give him cause for the claim that anyone wanting to come to this country after him and his family is wrong, out of bounds or over the line?
Bunch of shite, troll if you must.
To be homiest (honest) this is no better than some dumb-ass named LEB used to spew
Troll, pure troll
Wait….Ron… are you bluerag in disguise? You seem to have a very similar view of the world?
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dirtbag
climber
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The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES. Primarily considered behind the times, with lawlessness as a norm, and societal practices that are deemed un acceptable in most any other countries.
Again Ron--what makes us so fukking great? Our culture has the blood on our hands, too--by the millions.
So learn some history and get over your smugness.
Edit: yeah, what Jingy just said, too.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES.
Wow... just wow...
Name me another first world country that allows such a flood of illegals in..?
I've heard similar complaints about "rag heads" from ignorant Brits.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Tell me there is no difference in a young 18 year old that grew up in suburban Redding, and one who grew up seeing be -headings, bodies littering streets and the like. That is a cultural difference. Thats WHY the Bay area has nightly tallies of dead. Thats also partially why gun sales are at all time highs. Their cultures are now changing ours.. THAT should be obvious to a blind man.
I'll tell you there is a difference between what you have written and reality. In other words, you mention a kid growing up in Redding, and a kid growing up seeing beheadings and bodies littering streets…Then you mention the bay area and its crime rate as nightly.
Are you saying that crime is always committed by those nasty immigrants in their 400,000 person gangs?
You're are so full of shite I can smell it. And that is the only thing that should be obvious to a blind man.
Blue, you should be ashamed, but then again, this is kind of par for you.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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I do suspect TGT is.
My black in laws might disagree.
But then your fellow "progressives" believe that "Chicago" is a racist code word.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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bull sheet, i watch it almost every night..I posted a weeks tally on the old thread once. impressive it was.
Facts, to you, are things that other whites tell you in the parking lot of the local quick-stop in Nevada.
You say you watch it nightly… from Nevada?
Here you're ini Bay Area:
n the Bay area, the nightly news rarely fails to mention the latest shootings, drive bys, and dead bodies found from this exact same CULTURAL influence.
Here you're in Carson area:
In Carson city, it has been quite evident over the past ten years of the areas where most of the illegals, gangs, and other undocumented people now live. Complete sections of town - and for the most, the landscape, trees -lawns and plants are killed off to make room for multiple cars from multiple familys in one residence.
Either you're full of shite (as I have stated) or you are clearly an omnipotent god type who can be everywhere are once.
Total troll.
I'm Done
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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What time is the Nightly Channel 21 Death Tally?
They are of all colors, but mostly illegal.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Sambo's closed down?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Here are some Cultural Facts...and some pc spin...
http://www.sambosrestaurant.com/
And then there was one, The Original Sambo's Restaurant.
The Original Sambo’s Restaurant is still family owned and operated by Chad Stevens,
the grandson of the Founder of Sambo's Restaurant, along with his wife Michelle. They invite you to stop in and say hello.
Over the years many myths and rumors abound about the "SAMBO'S" name -
its origin seemingly subject to many ideas as to how the restaurant got its name.
The fact is - SAM (the Founder) was a real person and BO (his partner) was a real person.
Sam is Sam Battistone and Bo is Newell Bohnett, known affectionately to his friends, family and associates as "Bo".
Despite all the other stories you may have heard - this is really how SAMBO'S got its name.
'The Story of Little Black Sambo' by Helen Bannerman was an afterthought. The SAMBO'S RESTAURANT
already was established before the children's story was discovered and used as part of a marketing promotion.
Sam actually had another restaurant on State St. in Santa Barbara called "Sammy's" when the original (and present)
property location (216 W. Cabrillo Blvd) became available.
From 1957 until around 1978, Sambo's was a growing part of the American landscape. For a number of reasons Sambo's
began to slow down and its transition from an innovative coffee cafe in Santa Barbara to a multi-million dollar corporation
began to take its toll - In August 1981 there were 1,117 restaurants in 47 states.
Some restaurants in the Northeastern part of the U.S. tried a new name - ' No Place Like Sam's ' in an attempt to reverse
a four-year tailspin. Sadly, in 1982 all but the original Sambo's in Santa Barbara closed their doors.
In 2012 The ORIGINAL Sambo's Restaurant will celebrate 55 years in business, on the beach !!
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Norton, I have some white friends too. They are good people. My white neighbors are out playing baskeetball with their kids... whooping and hollerin' like lunatics. I don't talk to them cuz they have a half-pipe and we ALL KNOW about sk8er culture.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Nose?
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DanaB
climber
CT
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**Kinda like when all them dirty wops piled into New York. Or the polacks and krauts dirtying up Chicago. Yup, those disgusting subhumans sure did wreck every place they invaded, didn't they?
They brought their criminal gangs with them, and filled the headlines with murders. And not only that, they smelled bad, ate weird food, crowded into rundown tenements...**
Yes, but all of that is nothing compared to the destruction that white protestants have visited on our society.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Dec 10, 2012 - 04:44pm PT
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Hahaha... sk8ers are a subculture in the US, but gang bangers and drug dealers define third world culture. And you wonder why people call you a racist?
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dirt claud
Social climber
san diego,ca
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Dec 10, 2012 - 05:34pm PT
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No TGT, they will say your Black in-laws have been brainwashed and must not know who you really are. Because some minorities must be brainwashed if they don't understand that they are a victim of a white society.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 10, 2012 - 05:44pm PT
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it does not give Ron any comfort that because the Poles and Irish stank up the place in 1880, other groups have every right to do it NOW
Nope. And I wasn't implying that it should, or at least not in the short term. Just trying to point out that this is not a new problem. It's the same old problem but its hitting Ron in Carson City now, instead of your grandfather in Chicago in 1930.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Dec 10, 2012 - 05:50pm PT
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You stand corrected...
There are many "white trash" places here in Nevada as well and yes - that is also a cultural problem. Culture being predominantly METH.
The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES. Primarily considered behind the times, with lawlessness as a norm, and societal practices that are deemed un acceptable in most any other countries.
So you can expect that those cultures will come with the people.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Dec 10, 2012 - 06:54pm PT
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When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result. They begin to take on the look and feel of those third world areas from whence they came. And being illegals and un documented people, they tend to flock amongst those of the like nature. And then comes "ghettos" and slums if you will for a lack of a better wording while property values fall..
Yep, in the 19th century the whole friggin' city of New York was blighted with an Irish Catholic ghetto just like the one you describe above. That's why the Irish hate African Americans so much: they fought it out with them at the bottom in Boston and New York in the 19th century for the underclass jobs. The animosity has never gone away. Remember William Bonny (aka 'Billy the Kid')? He left Hell's Kitchen in New York, the largest Irish ghetto in the US, and moved out to Tombstone in New Mexico Territory. "Killed 21 (white) men for his 21 years, not counting N_ggas, Indians and Mexicans".
My point? It's been that way in the USA a long, long time. After maybe three generations, when they finally get into the middle classes and the professions, then THEY become WHITE like everyone else. A toughening process to be sure. Why did the Italians start the Mafia? Because everyone discriminated against them so they created their own protection organization.
But doesn't CVS today seem like it's a store in northern Mexico? Something about the service level and the variety of product choices. Makes you think the new global economy is spelled: POVERTY.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Dec 10, 2012 - 07:26pm PT
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It is only spelled POVERTY for 47% of Uhmerikuhns and 99% of the global population. For the rest it is spelled GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED FREE MARKET CAPITALISM.
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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Dec 10, 2012 - 07:37pm PT
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Culture? I think that it's all about income. Poor people have sh#t lives and do sh#t stuff. Have three jobs? Then no time to worry about where you throw your trash or how many fish you have.
People bring their income with them but when people start to make less, they too move to cheaper places. Where? The crap part of town of course.
Since it has all to do with income and nothing to do with native culture, I would say that you are income-ist.
But really, you have to be prejudice to be an -ist. Racist, sexist, culture-ist, whatever. You need to learn of a persons race, sex, culture, etc., and then make a judgement about them without knowing any other information. Are you that? Do you hate them because of where they came from regardless of how they act or do you see how they act and then hate them for that?
Dave
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damo62
Social climber
Brisbane
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Dec 10, 2012 - 07:43pm PT
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R A, do you really think climbing is a culture?
"That's why the Irish hate African Americans so much"-----wow, can you back that one up? If not then back off!
"Why did the Italians start the Mafia? Because everyone discriminated against them so they created their own protection organization."-------get a clue, read a little.
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Dec 10, 2012 - 07:50pm PT
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You are a first rate moron if you don't realize people manipulate your own white guilt.
Xenophobia is a HUMAN trait. It doesn't belong to anyone, it belongs to all of us. We will never over come it. As we try to overcome it, here come the ass f*#ks that will manipulate, lie, cheat, and steal. These are HUMAN traits. Black white brown red we are all xenophobic, we are all lazy, evil, good, loving, hating, jealous ect ect ect
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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ron,
i think if you were driving down the road and saw that, then you might just want to be real neighborly...help them out. get out the old bull whip and flog the crap out of them. tell them there is no need for thanks.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Call it what you like but the unrelenting republican opposition to "anything Obama" is fueled by thinly veiled racisim.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Change might be good. What race in the history of the world has f*#ked up the planet more, and killed more people than whitey?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Gee you're right Ron, that's scary.
It would be much better if our kids would just hang out with nice, white, American boys and learned only of the ways of Jesus.
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Another funny thing,, the schools here have gone away from ANY religious aspects concerning christians
Oh really? So the Dino museum opening up and the christian science classes of the south do not exist in your world? Science illiteracy in the white christian fundamentalist communities is at an all time high, and here you are whining about brown people and their culture?
Now for those of you mentioning ancient history such as slavery, i should inform you we have a partially black man in the whitehouse as President
Ancient history? Ancient history? Do you have any sort of education at all? Slavery, race discrimination and even gender bias are things this country deals with every day, from a judge selling children to a prison for profit to human trafficking, racial violence from skin heads and nazis, the republican party still attacking working women in the major media saying females are damaging our children by having a career...
Ancient history my ass dude, it's right here and now if people like you had their way..
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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The Nazi party pales in comparison to Ashura?
You better do some reading Ron.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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LOOK around the globe dude.. ISLAM is causing more deaths that ANYONE/THING on the planet now.
Wrong. Nothing has ever been more deadly than white guys and christianity.
109,032 deaths including 66,081 civilian deaths.
These are just Iraq, and only the numbers attributed to the American military. Muslims haven't done that anywhere recently Ron. Get a f*#king clue.
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squishy
Mountain climber
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yeah Islam is the bad guy, Christians have never killed, they are perfect...and the white ones are even better because their culture is better...
I do love the defense of skinheads and nazis while saying you are not defending them...
Not only are you a hypocrite within your own posts but you are so ignorant that you are completely blind to how you appear to your audience...If you had any kind of cultural exposure you would feel pretty shitty about yourself right now...
I'm kinda upset people like you live in my state still...
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Things that are causing more deaths than Islam:
Western Military weapons
Alcohol
Cigarettes
Cars
(all of these could be in the First World Problems thread)
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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How about Malaria?
Malaria kills one child every 30 seconds, about 3000 children every day.
Over one million people die from malaria each
year, mostly children under five years of age,
with 90 per cent of malaria case
s occurring in Sub-Saharan Africa.
Why aren't you yelling about Malaria in Africa?
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Things that are causing more deaths than Islam:
Western Military weapons
Alcohol
Cigarettes
Cars
These are issues. This thread is all about Ron wanting another venue to vent his bigotry.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Call it what you like but the unrelenting republican opposition to "anything Obama" is fueled by thinly veiled racisim.
true that
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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The thought of obama NEVER entered my mind
I believe he was speaking in general
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Hmmmm, a guy who thinks spanking oneself in Georgia is more important than thousands of children dying every day from Malaria, hmmmm...
Is that what I'm getting here Ron?
CAN YOU AT LEAST ADMIT THAT YOUR COMMENT ABOUT ISLAM KILLING MORE THAN ANYTHING TODAY IS WRONG?
And you swiftly ignored my post about the numbers of Iraqis killed by American bombs. But that doesn't fit your world view, I get it.
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Ron's parents obviously beat him up, fought in front of him and they were fat...they taught him to question everything, including facts. He has grown to be a valued member and proud representative of this fine country all because of Ron's parents and their self sacrifice and sound logic expertly applied to child rearing.
What aids him the most is under exposure and isolation from the very cultures he fears and demonizes. He must also carry a gun in case anyone overhears his mouth in public and decides to introduce education to his face by means of a fist...
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Sunni Muslim terrorists committed “about 70 percent” of the 12,533 terrorist murders in the world last year, according to a report by the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC)
Once again I will patiently introduce you to some math Ron.
12,500 is less than one million malaria deaths annually.
12,500 is less than 109,000 Iraqis dead by American military.
But it's not important to you, so what's the point? It's only important to kill Muslims and make plenty of enemies to kill in the future.
In that sense we're doing a marvelous job, so you should be happy, not fearful.
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squishy
Mountain climber
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What do you expect when a giant troll says "here's my button don't push it"..
If you are going to sit here and feel ok about the things you are saying, then I am going to sit here and feel no remorse about trash talking your family. Your kind is a disease in this country, and you should have never put any emphasis on your family or jumped to conclusions and overreacting defense. The things you say in this thread are just as offensive to me as you may find me talking about your family, get it? oh and your mom is fat...
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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I said TODAY
TODAY Malaria will kill more children than radical Islam.
TODAY automobiles will kill more people than radical Islam.
TODAY cancer will kill more people than radical Islam.
TODAY respiratory infection will kill more than radical Islam.
TODAY AIDS will kill more than radical Islam.
TODAY cerebrovascular disease will kill more than radical Islam.
TODAY Tuberculosis will kill more than radical Islam.
TODAY Diarrheal diseases will kill more than radical Islam.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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The same group that in no way by strict definition fits into american societal rules regulations and laws..
well...when you say it that way...
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Many of them are extremists like those pictured above.
Those are christians in case yer wondering bro....
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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What about the Irish Catholics? They came over here after the Potato Famine and lived in rotting slums on the East Coast like Hells Kitchen in New York. Breeding ground of William Bonny (alias Billy the Kid). Always sending their money to the IRA back in the Fatherland to rebel and kill Brits. Their neighborhoods were filled with crime and prostitution and they took orders directly from the Pope in Rome. Should never be allowed to become President or hold elected office because of their divided loyalties. Then along came that Kennedy Clan with a Pro-Nazi father into bootlegging and bought their way into the country club, Harvard and the Washington beltway. Now, Irish walk right down the street in broad daylight and they've taken over the Police force too.
Bet the same thing will happen with the Muslims and the character of the good old USA will be changed forever. No constant but change. Look at what happened to the Roman Empire when they didn't assimilate the Goths due to 'ethic tension' with the native Roman population. The Goths took over.
The Italians, the Portuguese and the Irish used to take orders from the WASPs. Now the Italians, Portuguese, and Irish give orders to the Mexicans. This ugly social democracy melting pot just keeps going and going and going until, as De Tocqueville predicted, there's going to be a huge race war. Just ask Charlie Manson. Better hope the money trees just keep blooming to iron out the social differences.
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Dr. Christ
Mountain climber
State of Mine
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
The conflict in northern Ireland between Christians and Christians killed more people than the 9/11 attacks.
The crusades (Christian Terrorism at its worst) killed nearly 10 million people.
Over 10 times more people have been killed in Iraq than were killed in the 9/11 attacks.
BTW, good to see the idiots still suffering from "911 Tourettes" with a new strain of "Boston Marathonitis." Every time they are confronted with facts regarding their bias, their response involves 911 and/or the BM.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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More christians.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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BUT the difference here is none of them BOMBED Boston or were recruited to go kill US soldiers in afghanny, or flew planes into buildings. Unless i missed something..
Well, I guess it's possible that you missed the part where we killed a COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND of their people since 2001.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Racism, or cultural-ism?
The U.S. Army staff sergeant accused of slaughtering 16 Afghan civilians in two villages pleaded guilty Wednesday in a move expected to spare him from the death penalty.
And when a military judge asked Robert Bales, 39, why he slaughtered the men, women and children outside Camp Belambay in southern Afghanistan on March 11, 2012, Bales gave his first and only public explanation for the attack.
"Sir, as far as why: I've asked that question a million times since then," said Bales, according to the Associated Press. "There's not a good reason in this world for why I did the horrible things I did."
Bales appeared in military uniform at Joint Base Lewis-McChord outside Seattle, where his military tribunal is being held.
Part of his plea deal with prosecutors involved a requirement that he give an account of the killings and of burning the villagers' bodies before returning to base with bloodstained clothing.
His initial recollection of the slaughter, which was recalled to the court and to the Los Angeles Times in vivid detail by the survivors, poured out in cold legalese.
"I left the VSP [Village Stability Platform at Belambay] and went to the nearby village of Alkozai," Bales told the judge, Col. Jeffery Nance, according to the AP. "While inside a compound in Alkozai, I observed a female I now know to be Na'ikmarga. I formed the intent to kill Na'ikmarga, and I did kill Na'ikmarga by shooting her with a firearm. This act was without legal justification, sir."
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Ron, where did I call it a "christian thing" since you put it in quotations, it's supposed to be a QUOTE!!
And no, that wouldn't be silly at all...
Christians were there (M.E.) before Muslims right?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Christians are also participants in Palestinian terrorism, not that you ever hear that part of it.
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squishy
Mountain climber
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you have the mouff sqush,, so tell me WHO you are and where for that matter.
Ive made my name and location well known. Show me you have some real sackage and not just internet placebo-ballz.
My name is Sean Wendland and I live in Sacramento...and...why are you so interested in my sack? Do you like big ballz on your internet boyfriends?
Maybe there's some "yo mamma so fat" police you could call if your so butthurt..
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Another Case of White Christian Racism and Cultural Terrorism:
Now I am not racist, in fact most of my friends are White People, but White People brought with them from Europe their own SECRET racism, and it goes against the laws!
And they brought with them their so called "religion" and their own "culture"
White Christians are at it again:
An Alabama high school student is being fined $1,000 and having her diploma withheld after wearing an eagle feather in her graduation cap on May 23.
Chelsey Ramer, of the Poarch Creek Band of Indians, wore the spiritually and culturally symbolic feather at her Escambia Academy High School graduation ceremony as a display of pride in her heritage, according to local news outlet WPMI-TV. However, a graduation dress code contract stated students were not allowed to wear “extraneous items during graduation exercises unless approved by the administration."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/03/chelsey-ramer-indian-feather-high-school-graduation_n_3380961.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Personally, not that it matters, I think Ron is racist. I could be wrong, but his writing points directly at that. A thinly veiled cover is just that, thinly veiled. People can see through it.
I live in the backwoods of NH. Think town of 2000 people. There are a lot of racist people where I live. I've quit going to certian social gatherings because there are way too many comments about niggers and how many guns are owned. I'm cool with guns, I own them, but the overtly racist dialogue I hear when people are a little buzzed is really too much for me.
I have zero tolerance for racism, sexism, or homophobia.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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I watched a video of Mitt Romney speaking today
I have to say that I was impressed that he was articulate, for a White Person I mean
I thought he was a Credit to his Race
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Ron may actually believe he is not a racist, he may not realize the things he says are racist. I personally see thinly veiled racism in his words (as do most of this audience) but racism can be a product of misunderstanding as much as it is fueled by hate.
In fact, I will admit to saying very similar things at times, and I too profess to being color blind. I am willing to bet everyone, from any race, has said stupid sh#t before. If that ignorant or stupid thing you said was about racial generalizations or characteristics, then you too are guilty of the same thing. I'm not talking about racist jokes, I love those and I love hearing good ones, but that's when you know it's all in good fun or joking. I am talking about assumptions, mis-judging a book by it's cover and generalizations about people or neighborhoods that really are unneeded. My statements, though technically right or wrong at the time, in retrospect were pretty racist. And I don't think I am a racist, at least I don't want to believe I am and I don't want to be. But I am ignorant about many things and I have no problem admitting that.
Sure, let's all point and laugh, but lets remember why and try steering ourselves in the right direction too. There's nuance to this subject, you may not hate other races or people different than yourself but you may not understand them or understand the nuances of communicating about them or with them. In these cases, I think it's perfectly ok to claim ignorance. Taking responsibility for your ignorance is a much better approach than veiling your understanding and appearing hateful.
Ron has a hard time being wrong, so it's easy to guess that he wishes to appear strong, prideful and as a result hateful or "thinly veiled"...
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Ron has a hard time being wrong
on the contrary, I think he find it effortless
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Ron, you are referring to a positive story.
When anything negative happens regarding someone who was not born here, but lives here, you're the first to jump on the hate train (broad generalization, but mostly correct). Why?
Sorry to jump on the hate train toward you, but you asked for it in starting this thread.
Also, why do you write very well sometimes, but write like a hick in your writing other times?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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you don't care?
why did you start the post? obviously you care...
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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sub tribe?
if the shoe fits, wear it I guess...
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Rons views are had by being an ex leo. Ron thinks to himself when he saw that photo in Georgia this am, that they: are certainly extremist islamics,
by the ODDS should most definitely be looked into, and that i would be worried if i came up in that scene as an leo.
There are hundreds being watched here now by FBI and DHS. Thats what i thought coming from being trained to simply spot the obvious. Those that have killed and maimed us here are islamic extremists.. The picture indicates the very same.
Ask your self what a Boston Victim would do driving in the woods into that ? How would they feel?
So i guess your ok with a sect that is against the gays, dogs, and womens rights then? I Then must assume your all sexists 100%...
So you profile people based on appearance in America, as a law enforcement officer and you are afraid of religions that are against gays, dogs and women's rights?
I don't know much about this dog thing, but Christians seem to fit your fear, are you a christian?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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I "look like" a terrorist to many people, Ron...
... you probably haven't experienced that, you're not making a very convincing defense.
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Faith should be a somewhat private deal. And shouldn't collide with the rules everyone else must abide by
Oh hey, check it out, progress...
Now..can you see why someone would be upset by being profiled by law enforcement for something that even you believe should be kept private?
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squishy
Mountain climber
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And then right back two steps...
terrorists bombing this country have all been islamic extremists.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Atlanta Olympics bombing.
Gotya again.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Insufficient data, Anderson.
Please provide data indicating the number of terrorist acts in America performed by those who self flagellate.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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If he gets booted, don't complain to me complain? you'll get 100 virgins when you die
EDIT: 1,000
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Apparently you define a racist as a person who admits to being one
As long as they deny it, they're in the clear?
Flip that over. If YOU declare someone to be racist, does that make it so?
I find most liberal race-baiters to be the most racist, looking at everybody though the prism of their skin color, and treating them accordingly.
The definition of racism. Notice how many lib politicians change their vocal inflections based on the ethnic group they speak to, namely blacks.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Joe, how about Hillary, Biden, and Obama?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Where's the references to what you were actually talking about?
Or you think casting aspersions with nothing to back them up will make you look less foolish?
Are you just playing stupid? These were big stories. Maybe just on FOX, I guess.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Ronnie. They are they racists. WE look at Americans, not ethnicity or skin color.
Except you can't link to any of those "big stories", you lying piece of shit
Look up^^^^^. I posted them.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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i dont know why any hispanics would vote republican"
LOL
so what, I don't either
is that somehow a big deal comment, LOL?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Literally quoting someone's words is "invoking blackness"?
Why?
Why does she have to use a phony black slang, why can't she just quote him?
Answer: She's pandering.
And Biden? No excuse.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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No Bluering
conservatives did the damage
not the name of a Political party that changes with the times
It was the Conservatives then, and now that are the racists
It was the conservatives that went to war with the North to keep their slaves, not the liberals
the liberals then, and now are the ones trying to guarantee equal rights for all
Who freed the slaves, idiot! Who elected the first black member to Congress?
You're a fool.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Sweet tailspin this thead took.
Blue, you're wrong because the GOP.....nevermind.....not worth it. You've already told me that you dislike most people and won't listen to any point I make.
Good luck in your life of distrust and anger.
And, I'm assuming that when you read this, you'll be completely baffled by my comment. You're right and if you don't agree with 'em, then F 'em, right? No retreat, no surrender!!!!!
Fare well, dude. I wish you the best.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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SHE DID, IDIOT!!!!!
SHE LITERALLY QUOTED HIM!!!
DO YOU NEED THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD "LITERALLY" EXPLAINED TO YOU???
Vocal inflection changes. Did you hear me say that? Did you hear her do that?
That was my point! Nice job trying to deflect my point.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Yeah, he's so level-headed he forgot Oklahoma City, Atlanta Olympics, and the university bombings were done by white Americans.
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Dr. Christ
Mountain climber
State of Mine
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im DEAD against those that come to this country to do it and its people harm, dont care whut the colour is.
What about those that are already here? McVeigh, Kaczynski, Rudolph, etc. Should we drone their asses? Or should we check their religious affiliation and/or race first?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Well Norton to the republican Hispanics i know yeah i guess thats an insult.
well Ron, I live in THE MOST Hispanic state in the country
and when the Republican candidate for President tells a living room full of Hispanics I was sitting with during the debate that the solution to their grand parents sitting right next to me is to "self deport", as in get up and get your ass out of the country...
well then you dumb ass, you damn right they ain't gonna vote for a Republican
duh
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Who freed the slaves, idiot! Who elected the first black member to Congress?
Progressives.
You're a fool.
You're a drunk.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Hey, Gary, read history again.
What percentage of financial crimes are committed by white people? Are white people therefore more genetically inclined to commit bank fraud and insider trading than black people?
Or does your incapability to see beyond race render your opinions and judgement worthless?
You missed his keyword of "violent" crimes. Of course whitey (and others) commit crimes, but he was stating something more specific.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Yes, lots of "big stories" there too, no doubt, that support your lies.
Except you can't cite any of them.
Here's a clue: Quit projecting your wingnut gullibility onto reasonably intelligent people. It ain't ever gonna work, except to make YOU look stupider than you already do.
Abe Lincoln freeing the slaves? Supreme Court Nominees, Congressmen who were blacks? Was Martin Luther King a Dem?
Did that come from Republicans or Dixiecrats?
Read you history again.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Name a bigger group of welfare recipients than the Waltons. We feed, through food stamps, house, through Section 8, and provide health care to their employees while they rake in billions.
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slayton
Trad climber
Here and There
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Ron's not a racist. He just hates anyone, of any color or creed, that doesn't think, live, or keep a clean lawn just like him. Like so many before him throughout the history of this country he sees those flooding these shores as somehow diminishing our "culture".
Ron is a shining example of someone who takes the socially complex issues of economics and immigration and then whittles them down into something simple that he can understand: It's THEM!! They're dirty, they're criminal, they don't try to learn the language or the proper salute to the flag, they're all gangbangers (not true), and they're all illegals (also not true), and that's why I don't want them here. IT'S THEIR CULTURE!!
There is nothing new under the sun with Ron's attitude. This country has an issue with immigration. Why shouldn't we as the most prosperous nation on the face of the earth?
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free." So it says on the Statue of Liberty. I realize that there probably isn't any such proclamation in public in Carson City, NV but I figured it was a national symbol. Should we tear it down?
No! NO, no, of course not. It's the damned illegals! Just like the damned Islamist soon to be terrorist flagellating themselves! They're the problem. Until the next one. .. ..
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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It's pretty sad how people like Joe try to re-write the history of black liberation and paint it as a Dem thing. It wasn't. It was Republicans who led the charge.
http://www.nbra.info/DYK-HistoryTest
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Slayton! Re your assertion:
Ron's not a racist. He just hates anyone, of any color or creed, that doesn't think, live, or keep a clean lawn just like him.
What??? Ron has a lawn??
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Hey Ron,
Do you just glass over other people's comments, or do you outright ignore them?
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Mr. Anderson just likes to make the last reply, with anything. It's like sticking a pacifier in a baby. He's pacified, till he needs to make the last response again, any response will do.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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LOL, stick your head in the sand. Learn some history.
We admit the south was full of conservative racist dems. They became republicans. Very few deny this.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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The repubs did not lead the civil rights movement of the 60's, the dems did.
Er, like Duh.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Johnson and the dems pushed civil rights bills of the 60's, with much obstructionism from the repubs. Kennedy had to send in the troops to enforce some equality in the Republican south.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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LOL, everything has to be answered exactly as you demand.
You tell us how the Repubs led civil rights in the 60's, while the Dems hindered progress.
The 50's is a mixed bag, since Eisenhower also sent in troops to enforce integration, which the northern dems supported and the southern dems opposed (then became republican, ie, Strom Thurmond).
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Ike was the last honest Republican president.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Ron, that's because the capitalists, who own the politicians you support, need a cheap supply of labor.
The Republicans get to have it both ways. They use illegals to drive down American wages, increase the profits of their Wall Street bosses, and at the same time demonize the illegals to scare whitey into voting Republican.
Brilliant strategy for them, too bad about America, though.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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You hate what's happening in NV, you should move or do something to change what you feel is wrong.
It's easy to do, but I can't think of a more backwater state to live in. Maybe Kansas?
Sh#t or get off the pot dude.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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But you do mention a very hurtful fact that JOBS are being taken by those here illegally
Ron, an illegal Mexican has NEVER taken a job away from an American. It was GIVEN to him.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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You hate what's happening in NV, you should move or do something to change what you feel is wrong.
It's easy to do, but I can't think of a more backwater state to live in. Maybe Kansas?
Sh#t or get off the pot dude.
Sorry Ron, this is what I said. My apologies if you missed it. Does it make sense to you? I'm not being mean, just using common sense.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Illegal immigrants don't vote.
Ouch, Burn! There goes your idea that all those "illegals" elected Obama.
Mexicans, electing a black man, how much more of this injustice do we have to take!?
4.5 million? Ok, that's about five minutes of wasted water in Vegas.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Haha, you're calling me racist, Ron?
No idea where you got that. Me calling Nevada a backwater state?
Thanks for the laugh.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Where do you get the idea that we don't know anything about embezzling Ron?
You mean like these? I know none of them are Mexican, so these guys can't be quite as guilty....
Perpetrator, Amnt., 2010$, Victim, Organization, Discovered
Yasuyoshi Kato $132 million ($90M) Day-Lee Foods, Inc. 1997
Gilbert Beesemyer $100 million ($7.7M) Guaranty B&L Assoc. 1930
Ricardo Carrasco $88.3 million ($66M) BankBoston 1998
John F. Doorly $70.5 million ($58.2M) Tenens Corp/Ayer estate 2006
Ausaf Siddiqui $69 million ($65.6M) Fry’s Electronics 2008
L. Ben Lewis $64 million ($21.3M) Wells Fargo Bank 1981
Melissa G. King $47.6 million ($42.6M) Sandhogs’ Union Local 147 2009
William Deloach $49 million ($36.6M) PBS&J Corp. 2005
Sujata Sachdeva $40.9 million ($34.5M) Koss Corp. 2009
Minnie Mangum $35.7 million ($2.9M) Commonwealth B&L Assoc 1955
For a guy that doesn't like to be accused of things, you sure can dish 'em out!
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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When B-1 Bob Dornan finally got voted out of congress, he claimed it was because of voting fraud, which he said was illegals voting for Loretta Sanchez. A thorough investigation revealed the only fraudulent votes were by Marines!
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Dr. Christ
Mountain climber
State of Mine
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1) FACTS are not loud or quite, they are just facts.
2) The vast majority of sh#t Rong types are not facts, despite his claims.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Monolith, blacks and hispanics vote Dem simply because they have bought the Democrat Party line.
These people don't even understand that 'their leader' , MLK, was a Repub!
They buy into the rhetoric of party politics and Dems always promise more while delivering much less.
Just look at the unemployment and poverty numbers under Obama. He fuxked them! And they voted for him again because of his cheesy rhetoric, that was just that, empty promises.
His words are bold, but people keep buying his bullsh#t. Wake up! He is f*#king you!
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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You've been Snoped, Bluering. MLK jr was not a Republican.
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/mlking.asp
A commonly circulated item about Martin Luther King which is not included in this list is the claim that King was a Republican. Such claims are based purely on speculation; King himself never expressed an affiliation with, nor endorsed candidates for, any political party. In response to such claims, his son, Martin Luther King III, said: "It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican."
Now his father, MLK Senior was a Repub, and that's what we've been trying to tell you Bluering. The repubs used to get black support, particularly before 1936.
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Dr. Christ
Mountain climber
State of Mine
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Nice! Way to lump "these people" into a group based on being "blacks [or] hispanics" and assume they all share the same ideology based on their race. There has to be a term for that, right?
Oh, and MLK was NOT a Repugnikunt, despite whatever misinformation you my have been fed by your overlards.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Monolith, what about the rest?
http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/DYK-HistoryTest
Weird how you people react to facts. You start back-peddalng into changing the story, like Snopes does.
Kinda like the WikiFacts. Please look back at history. You are wrong.
Dems used blacks. Repubs liberated them, over and over in history. Sorry it doesn't fit your narrative.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Hahahahahaha.........
Wicked dumb.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Bluering, I said the repubs got black support early on, because they were the libs of Lincoln's time.
Study up on the "Southern Strategy" and you'll see why the repubs don't get much black support.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
In American politics, the Southern strategy is the Republican Party's strategy of gaining political support or winning elections in the Southern section of the country by appealing to racism against African Americans.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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What am I trying to paint about the south, Anderson?
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Nope, never said all blacks vote Dem, Anderson. Jeebus, you have reading comprehension issues.
Go back and look at the graphs, idiot.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Hey Ron, have you ever been to Mexico? Canada? Central America? South America? Europe? Asia?
Your worldview is confined to the places you've been and what you read.
First hand experience is everything, you should try it.
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Dr. Christ
Mountain climber
State of Mine
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hahaaaa! yes, ron demands FACTS. hahahaaaaaa!
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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bluering said Monolith, blacks and hispanics vote Dem simply because they have bought the Democrat Party line.
Right because decades of actually standing up for civil rights, electing people of color and addressing issues that affect the underprivileged all boils down to good sloganeering. Republicans systematically disenfranchising people of color from the political process was just "bad messaging" I guess.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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I'd love to be around when you say that to their face - which I doubt even you would be stupid enough to actually do.
I do it all the time. Even at work when the Mexicans I work with call Romney a "rich white guy who hates Mexicans".
It's untrue, but people buy it.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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What blows me away is that people think Repubs, or more precisely, conservatives, hate "minorities" (blacks, hispanics).
I now have a really nice woman on this site who is uber-pissed at me for passed statements about Mexicans. I do stand by the words I spoke. It had to be taken in context of what Mexican students did to the American flag.
But I digress. Conservatives love immigrants, as long as they work and don't piss on our country.
We also would like to see the black community take responsibility for themselves and their families. The main thing IMO with the black "community" is the break-down of the family.
Get it together!
Suuuure you do pal
Dude, I have nothing to prove to you. You are insignificant.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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They know who's actually for them, and who's against them.
They think they do. You obviously missed my point. Stupid is as stupid votes.
Keep shooting yourself in the foot, or impoverishing yourselves.
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Psilocyborg
climber
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I dont care if you are rep or dem, black white gay straight, there are many poor people of every walk of life who use and abuse public assistance. There are also many rich people of every walk of life who use and abuse the system.
I personally know people at both ends of the spectrum that are these users and abusers.
Us hardworking americans in the middle are being f*#ked at both ends. That is how I see it. It isn't race or cultural, it is as#@&%es and thier numbers are growing at an alarming rate.
Hard working dems and reps should get together about this. It seems to me both sides are manipulated to be pit against themselves they fail to see the root cause. Assholes.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Ron asked "Racism or Culture"
here are five definition of CULTURE
which one of these is the one this thread by Ron is about?
CULTURE
noun
1.
the quality in a person or society that arises from a concern for what is regarded as excellent in arts, letters, manners, scholarly pursuits, etc.
2.
that which is excellent in the arts, manners, etc.
3.
a particular form or stage of civilization, as that of a certain nation or period: Greek culture.
4.
development or improvement of the mind by education or training.
5.
the behaviors and beliefs characteristic of a particular social, ethnic, or age group: the youth culture; the drug culture.
ny guess is that when Ron talks about CULTURE he is talking about number 5, because his examples are negative, as in close to RACISM in their negative descriptions of behavior
all of the other definitions are actually positive attributes of a particular group of people
I am not making a judgement of any kind, just trying to help with Ron's original question: Are these things being talked about CULTURE or RACISM?
I have always thought that CULTURE was the good and positive things about a group of people, such as their education, love of close families, arts, etc
I have never considered for example that an entire nationality of people is criminal just because that population has some criminals in it, America is not criminal because we have criminals
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