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Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 9, 2012 - 02:15pm PT
So looking at Prak Rats post about the Christmas card and the presidents dog, as per norm i seem the usual racist angles being played. Ive been called a racist on here ten thousand times in the politard threads and not once was it actually valid.

First and foremost, when i looked at the post, i thought,, cool- a pooch having fun in the snow. No i didnt think a BLACK dog in front of the whitehouse meant ANYTHING whatsoever, and my favorite dogs are BLACK LABS.


My current pooch be black and white. This should be proof positive that im well beyond racism..;-)


The angles being played over and over here dont even deal with the actual issue which IS CULTURAL-ISM.. Its NOT the color of ones skin that defines the character. More likely it is cultural differences that are at odds.

When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result. They begin to take on the look and feel of those third world areas from whence they came. And being illegals and un documented people, they tend to flock amongst those of the like nature. And then comes "ghettos" and slums if you will for a lack of a better wording while property values fall..

In Carson city, it has been quite evident over the past ten years of the areas where most of the illegals, gangs, and other undocumented people now live. Complete sections of town - and for the most, the landscape, trees -lawns and plants are killed off to make room for multiple cars from multiple familys in one residence. Break ins and police reports STACK up in these areas as well, putting a significant burden upon local LEOs.. Trash is piled where ever, or dumped where ever, because thats they way they did it in TJ.. They have illegitimate businesses that they advertise by folding traffic barriers and hand written signs. Ive seen these folks go to the river and dump their trash right out onto the ground. Ive seen them being busted by game wardens for having fifty fish over the legal limit and no fishing licenses. Because thats they way the did it in Mexico, or Brazil..

In the Bay area, the nightly news rarely fails to mention the latest shootings, drive bys, and dead bodies found from this exact same CULTURAL influence.


The many good and legal folks that immigrated here to be part of America ISNT the problem. Thats how America came to be. What IS the problem is the CUTURAL influnces of those that come here just for the money or benefits, unwilling to be part of America, but rather a seperate faction that have so far been quite negative. Three generations of the same family that dont even speak the accepted standard language says something too.



Ill accept the CULTURAL-ist label, but NOT the racist label.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:18pm PT
First and foremost, when i looked at the post, i thought,, cool- a pooch having fun in the snow. No i didnt think a BLACK dog in front of the whitehouse meant ANYTHING whatsoever, and my favorite dogs are BLACK LABS.

But when you see Obama do you think BLACK PRESIDENT? Nobody accused you of being biased in regards to the color of a dog's coat.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 02:20pm PT
no just an inept one..
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:20pm PT
Sigh - it really isn't a matter of what you'll 'accept'. Dude, you seriously need to move somewhere whitey'er, you know like northern New Hampshire.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:25pm PT
Inept compared to Snatch or Romney? hahahahaaaaa... Ron, I hope we never meet... I enjoy the mental picture I have of you as a good ol' desert rat who just says stuff to get people riled up but has way too much experience to honestly believe that crap.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 02:29pm PT
Wes,, thats fine and dandy, as i havent really wanted to meet you anyhoo. Even though i stuck up for your return here.

I dont give a rip if you believe it or not, but those a blatant facts. Why else do you think the bay area has a NIGHTLY tally of killings.???

Why do YOU think complete areas in carson are now known as the local barrios?



Why do you think my folks old place should have a revolving door put on it???


fyi i have MANY mexican friends. They tend to agree with me 100%.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:36pm PT
inept

 1. without skill or aptitude for a particular task or assignment; maladroit: He is inept at mechanical tasks. She is inept at dealing with people.
2. generally awkward or clumsy; haplessly incompetent.
3. inappropriate; unsuitable; out of place.
4. absurd or foolish: an inept remark.

 tell me this isn't your view of all non-white folks.

If you were at all critical you'd know that this president is magnitudes more equipped for the job than anyone in the buche administration.

It takes a real troll to post up this thread.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result.

Kinda like when all them dirty wops piled into New York. Or the polacks and krauts dirtying up Chicago. Yup, those disgusting subhumans sure did wreck every place they invaded, didn't they?

They brought their criminal gangs with them, and filled the headlines with murders. And not only that, they smelled bad, ate weird food, crowded into rundown tenements...

Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:45pm PT
ghost tactfully omitted the Irish, the English, the bohunks, the Jews, the...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:47pm PT
Why else do you think the bay area has a NIGHTLY tally of killings.???

uh, cuz its a highly populated area in the US, where guns are easier to come by than food stamps?

Why do YOU think complete areas in carson are now known as the local barrios?

Because barrio is Spanish for neighborhood?

Don't get me wrong... I enjoy interacting with you. I just prefer to believe your perspective is broader than you let on.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:48pm PT

"ghost tactfully omitted the Irish, the English, the bohunks, the Jews, the..."...

As well as CANADIANS...

A people unlike ours here in the grand US of A...





EDITED:

This is a funny:



"Why do YOU think complete areas in carson are now known as the local barrios?

Because barrio is Spanish for neighborhood?
...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:49pm PT
Don't forget those damn injuns...
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:50pm PT
When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result.

I am sure that many a Chippewa, Sioux, Navajo, and the multitudes of other neighborhood tribes would agree with that!




climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:54pm PT
Poverty and the culture surrounding it seems to have many of the same traits throughout human experience regardless of race geographic location.

Overcrowded and low quality housing. Substance abuse, depression, low sanitation. High levels of violent crime. high pregnancy rates.

You can find these slum environments in every nation on earth and among ALL races.

this is just observational fact. Why it is so and how to help is among the deepest of issues to contemplate.

Racist sentiment is something else entirely. It seems to be a deeply embedded genetic predilection. One that can be reinforced or overcome depending on the individual. Something to do with the tribalistic nature of humanity. It also is found in every race and geography on earth. But it is also found among every socio economic strata of every society on earth.

It is a sickening trait in a modern society. It is common and I enjoy stomping on it every chance I get.

I have never called or considered Ron Racist however.

I do suspect TGT is.

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:54pm PT
If you get over stressing the PC crap, Ron has a point. Here in VT we have a culture problem as well that comes from the cities south of us. We get the drug gangs from Albany NY , Springfield MA and Hartford CT. They come to VT and try to live the same way here that they lived in the city. It's turning some of our small citys and towns into shitholes. Don't know what the right answers or solutions Are. I do know that there is no need to bring that crap to such a beautifull and peacefull place.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:57pm PT
Often decent parents will move with their children to do their best to get them away from the gang sh!t...

Problem is, many of the kids they're taking with them are in those gangs and thus the problems occur...

I watched it happen in the Lancaster/Palmdale area (a bedroom community to LA) some years back...

Now that area is over run with drug issues and gangs...




EDITED:

Southern Florida is another perfect example...


mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:59pm PT
Ron isn't talking about "the drug gangs" he is talking about "the Mexicans" and "the Blacks." There is a big difference. He almost acknowledges the difference with his trite "I have MANY Mexican friends" comments, but continues to lump based on race rather than economic status, social mobility, income, etc. What is the definition of racism again?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:10pm PT

Well...

I obviously MISSED the landing zone...

LOL!!!...

QITNL

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:11pm PT
Credit: QITNL
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:25pm PT
Here's a tale of two cities - Seattle and San Bernardino.

San Bernardino has had twice as many murders this year than Seattle, yet Seattle has three times the population as San Bernardino.

What would explain that huge difference, besides demographics?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:27pm PT


Better aim...
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:29pm PT
I guess it's easier to work in some range time down here, where we see 300+ sunny days a year.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:33pm PT

Exactly!!!...

LOL!!!...

dirtbag

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
Same ol story.

Every generation, there is a new group of immigrants to bash.

It's a theme that is as American as apple pie.

locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:43pm PT


Somebody is back deleting...

The thread is shrinking...



dirtbag

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:45pm PT
Irish and Italian immigrants, back in the day, were heavily involved in gang activity of their own.

Is something wrong with their culture?

American settlers killed, raped, pillaged, and wrongfully imprisoned Native Americans by the tens of thousands.

Millions of Africans were enslaved by Americans.

Is something wrong with American culture?

Wanna keep playing ? We can do this all day long.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:51pm PT
we all dump into that thin blue/white stripe that sits just above the sea/land horizon...


probably isn't racist... since we all do it, maybe specie-ist
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:54pm PT
It has nothing to do with "the Mexicans."

Estimated median household income in 2009:
San Bernardino:
$35,978

Seattle:
$60,843

California:
$58,931
Estimated per capita income in 2009: $14,804

Washington:
$56,548
Estimated per capita income in 2009: $40,743

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Seattle-Washington.html#ixzz2EaeUbuOa
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:56pm PT

Disliking an idividual makes sense...

Disliking an entire race, does not...

At least, not to me...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 04:03pm PT
No,, Ron is not talking about any COLOR of skin period...This is a matter of conflicting CULTURES, not immigrants. Much of my blood came from immigrants long ago. Some of it is NA.

There are many "white trash" places here in Nevada as well and yes - that is also a cultural problem. Culture being predominantly METH.

The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES. Primarily considered behind the times, with lawlessness as a norm, and societal practices that are deemed un acceptable in most any other countries.

So you can expect that those cultures will come with the people. Living outside the law and documentation does nothing but grow the problem. Even communicable diseases that were once history here , have seen a resurgence.
This is also a cultural problem of the third worlds...

So Yes we do have "slums" that contain all manner of races here in the USA, so we certainly dont need help in adding to those.














The racist label has been severely mis- used for a long time now.
If the first act of someone entering this country is to knowingly break laws,,does this not speak a bit to that culture? And once here do those same people abide by local laws and cultures? The evidence says no. Gangs now thrive to the tune of nearly 400,000 - predominately illegals.
Regular HS flights of helos now patrol the wilds in most states- that is tax dollars going poof at an alarming rate! The general carson-Tahoe area is now under this radar and patrols, due to the cartel operations being discovered here now. Yet another UNDESIRABLE cultural nuance.


moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:11pm PT
I am planing to move to Nevada and you and I will be neighbors. I am Polish. Our culture is different than yours, i.e. we don't have the right to keep and bear arms. Please don't shoot me.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:20pm PT
Ron is troll

Everything I read from this guy screams of "we're better then they are". He makes it a point to mention that he is ___% native american, well isn't that something special? Does that give him cause for the claim that anyone wanting to come to this country after him and his family is wrong, out of bounds or over the line?


Bunch of shite, troll if you must.
To be homiest (honest) this is no better than some dumb-ass named LEB used to spew

Troll, pure troll


Wait….Ron… are you bluerag in disguise? You seem to have a very similar view of the world?
dirtbag

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:20pm PT

The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES. Primarily considered behind the times, with lawlessness as a norm, and societal practices that are deemed un acceptable in most any other countries.


Again Ron--what makes us so fukking great? Our culture has the blood on our hands, too--by the millions.

So learn some history and get over your smugness.

Edit: yeah, what Jingy just said, too.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 04:21pm PT
Moose,,,Yur more than welcome to move next to me! Ill teach ya how to shoot!;-)

If you come here to be part of America, and contribute positively towards desirable cultural habits,, cmon over!!!!!


I have good friends of every color and blend you can think of. Im Scottish, Irish, and Choctaw for the most.


Now for those of you mentioning ancient history such as slavery, i should inform you we have a partially black man in the whitehouse as President.

The Indian wars were also longer ago that any one living now. To excuse current happenings over guilt of the past ISNT going to help. Name me another first world country that allows such a flood of illegals in..?

Anyone can cross our southern border, from arabs to irish, but they do so for a reason. Then consider policies in place now that basically call them hands off by local authorities and things like blanket amnesties- you can surely expect that problem to increase drastically. So five years from now, the gang count could be approaching a million or more easily.. We are BROKE NOW. We cant even afford "our own" and the care there of. So how are "we" going to continue this trend?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:22pm PT
The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES.

Wow... just wow...

Name me another first world country that allows such a flood of illegals in..?

I've heard similar complaints about "rag heads" from ignorant Brits.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 04:27pm PT
why else are they called that Wes..?


Tell me there is no difference in a young 18 year old that grew up in suburban Redding, and one who grew up seeing be -headings, bodies littering streets and the like. That is a cultural difference. Thats WHY the Bay area has nightly tallies of dead. Thats also partially why gun sales are at all time highs. Their cultures are now changing ours.. THAT should be obvious to a blind man.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 04:30pm PT
ohhh, youi mentioned muslims?.. You mean like those four nice california guys that were headed for afghanny?? Yet MORE terorists trained right here.. Yeah,, our culture has been ripped a new one by those guys. TSA! HS,, NDAA2013,,cyber tapping, phone tapping, and the like. Third world cultural influence at work. Plain ugly truth.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
Polio, now present in the USA


Tuberculosis, now present and gaining in the USA

Small Pox, now present and gaining in the USA

A lot of hard work and dedication rid this country of these diseases long ago, but the third world influences here has brought those with them. Yet another "cultural" difference. Racism does not apply.




ps, for those that didnt just just on the obvious racist band wagon or self guilt trips,, I thank you..

I Ron Anderson have never taken any ones land, nor have i ever owned or would own a slave, nor do i judge anyone by the color of their skin. Nor have i committed crimes against my fellow man.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:37pm PT
Tell me there is no difference in a young 18 year old that grew up in suburban Redding, and one who grew up seeing be -headings, bodies littering streets and the like. That is a cultural difference. Thats WHY the Bay area has nightly tallies of dead. Thats also partially why gun sales are at all time highs. Their cultures are now changing ours.. THAT should be obvious to a blind man.

 I'll tell you there is a difference between what you have written and reality. In other words, you mention a kid growing up in Redding, and a kid growing up seeing beheadings and bodies littering streets…Then you mention the bay area and its crime rate as nightly.

Are you saying that crime is always committed by those nasty immigrants in their 400,000 person gangs?

You're are so full of shite I can smell it. And that is the only thing that should be obvious to a blind man.

Blue, you should be ashamed, but then again, this is kind of par for you.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
Culture:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby%27s_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_city_bombing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unibomber

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Eagan_Holmes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre


At least "the Mexicans" are killing people who cross them and not shooting 10's to 1000's of innocent people. Are you all about old school justice anyway... beating people up for retrobolting, etc? Or are you the kind of culturally refined white Uhmerkun who prefers to shoot up an office building or theater when you get upset?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:46pm PT


"At least "the Mexicans" are killing people who cross them and not shooting 10's to 1000's of innocent people."...

AMEN!!!...

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:51pm PT
I do suspect TGT is.

My black in laws might disagree.


But then your fellow "progressives" believe that "Chicago" is a racist code word.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 04:53pm PT
Well jingy,, your entitled to an opinion but ALL you do is bark insults. You havent disputed one fact ive listed, and there are many..

Heres a sample demographic for ya. All fact.

Among the people im close with in CC, there have been 6 incidents of : thefts , attempted robberies and stolen -abondoned cars, and drug activities.
ALL thus far, were perpetrated my mexican men, and in five of the six cases were also illegals. This includes a broad daylight attempted robbery in the parking lot of kragen auto. Sorry if you dont like that but that is none the less absolute fact.
The IHOP shooter was also mexican.. So if your in this small town and see these demographics, what is one to think? That its just too bad we took some of their land they had for 60 years way back when so this is OK, and acceptable? Do I las out at the white AND brown men for not letting themselves get robbed? Thats what the govt thinks.. Same ones that got us in the BROKE stage we are in now, might i add.

Billions are spent annually JUST by local LEO actions regarding this influence.



edit : Norton,, thank you for that very PC flowery culture reference. But culture goes far deeper than that.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:57pm PT
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 04:59pm PT
bull sheet, i watch it almost every night..I posted a weeks tally on the old thread once. impressive it was.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:08pm PT
bull sheet, i watch it almost every night..I posted a weeks tally on the old thread once. impressive it was.

 Facts, to you, are things that other whites tell you in the parking lot of the local quick-stop in Nevada.

You say you watch it nightly… from Nevada?

Here you're ini Bay Area:
n the Bay area, the nightly news rarely fails to mention the latest shootings, drive bys, and dead bodies found from this exact same CULTURAL influence.

Here you're in Carson area:
In Carson city, it has been quite evident over the past ten years of the areas where most of the illegals, gangs, and other undocumented people now live. Complete sections of town - and for the most, the landscape, trees -lawns and plants are killed off to make room for multiple cars from multiple familys in one residence.


 Either you're full of shite (as I have stated) or you are clearly an omnipotent god type who can be everywhere are once.


Total troll.

I'm Done
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 05:13pm PT
thats good jingus,, and yeah i get the channel that shows the bay area news every night..its channel 21 here,, imagine that!!!!!Someday man will walk on the moon maybe too!

Ive mentioned that fifty times in these thread over the past couple of years. You guys either have burned your memory banks out, or are simply too simple...



edit: Norton,, it isnt lawlessness that made a small "resturant" in Carson close due to the pile of "unkonwn animal carcasses" piled out back rotting away. It was a CULTURAL thing, as thats what they did where they came from- it was "normal"..
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:16pm PT
What time is the Nightly Channel 21 Death Tally?

They are of all colors, but mostly illegal.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 05:18pm PT
comes on at 11:00 here.

seek your local guide.



edit: Norton,, Lets not waggle Bach , Mozart, Rembrandt or Picaso as the standard definition of culture. Your average person across the globe isnt of that class or culture.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:21pm PT


Thank fuking GUD Sambo's got closed down...

Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:22pm PT
Sambo's closed down?
QITNL

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:22pm PT
Ron Anderson Friendraiser...

May I have your attention please:

If Ron Anderson has any friends on this forum, could you please contact Ron Anderson immediately and tell him to step away from the computer, go outside and enjoy the afternoon, crack a Bud and watch some NFL, eat a burrito... ANYTHING will do ... or simply tell him to STFU NOW!!!

This has been a public service announcement sponsored by Save Ron Anderson. We will now return to our regular programming. Thank you.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 05:30pm PT
I KNOW my mexican neighbors right across the street, their little girl was thrilled to crawl up on a bear a while back.. And guess what,, they are HAPPY to be here, American and productive. They came here for OUR CULTURE, as it should be..



QTNL,, i have many friends here. But thanks you for the plug. As you see,, even here the racist card is being flown over the "culturalist" card. And incorrectly.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:31pm PT
Here are some Cultural Facts...and some pc spin...


http://www.sambosrestaurant.com/

And then there was one, The Original Sambo's Restaurant.

The Original Sambo’s Restaurant is still family owned and operated by Chad Stevens,
the grandson of the Founder of Sambo's Restaurant, along with his wife Michelle. They invite you to stop in and say hello.

Over the years many myths and rumors abound about the "SAMBO'S" name -
its origin seemingly subject to many ideas as to how the restaurant got its name.

The fact is - SAM (the Founder) was a real person and BO (his partner) was a real person.

Sam is Sam Battistone and Bo is Newell Bohnett, known affectionately to his friends, family and associates as "Bo".
Despite all the other stories you may have heard - this is really how SAMBO'S got its name.
'The Story of Little Black Sambo' by Helen Bannerman was an afterthought. The SAMBO'S RESTAURANT
already was established before the children's story was discovered and used as part of a marketing promotion.

Sam actually had another restaurant on State St. in Santa Barbara called "Sammy's" when the original (and present)
property location (216 W. Cabrillo Blvd) became available.

From 1957 until around 1978, Sambo's was a growing part of the American landscape. For a number of reasons Sambo's
began to slow down and its transition from an innovative coffee cafe in Santa Barbara to a multi-million dollar corporation
began to take its toll - In August 1981 there were 1,117 restaurants in 47 states.

Some restaurants in the Northeastern part of the U.S. tried a new name - ' No Place Like Sam's ' in an attempt to reverse
a four-year tailspin. Sadly, in 1982 all but the original Sambo's in Santa Barbara closed their doors.

In 2012 The ORIGINAL Sambo's Restaurant will celebrate 55 years in business, on the beach !!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:33pm PT
Norton, I have some white friends too. They are good people. My white neighbors are out playing baskeetball with their kids... whooping and hollerin' like lunatics. I don't talk to them cuz they have a half-pipe and we ALL KNOW about sk8er culture.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 05:35pm PT
Norton,, we dont have 400,000 KNOWN WHITE gang members . They are of all colors, but mostly illegal. And Yes ive said we do have OUR OWN torubles here. But to let millions in that have the same cultural differences illegally entering this country will not help our CURRENT problems. I hate to tell you but neveda is at the bottom and that bottom continues to drop even though that guy you like won the election..
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 05:36pm PT
that would be , "sub-culture" wes...
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:37pm PT


"Sadly, in 1982 all but the original Sambo's in Santa Barbara closed their doors"...

That's interesting...

I thought they had all closed...

locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:38pm PT


"Norton,, we dont have 400,000 KNOWN WHITE gang members"...

We have even MORE than that...

Republicans...

LOL!!!...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 05:40pm PT
naw Locker,, they ALL voted for that NDAA 2013 law.. They are all thugs.

thanks to them, we now have on the books, a law which closely resembles those of the gestapo of old..





I have ALWAYS been in total support of good people no matter their color..

I gave up eight years with NDOT over two of my good Indian friends directly protecting them and their jobs, and paid the price with a retirement under a must arrest on sight order with the NHP against me and any NDOT property or work zones. All over helping a Piaute and a Washoe Indian from blatant racism from a new foreman.
sooooo, anyone calling me racist can,, you know,, kiss my rosey red...;-)
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:56pm PT
Nose?
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 05:57pm PT
much farther south, and comprised of a different epidermal nature.
DanaB

climber
CT
Dec 9, 2012 - 06:09pm PT
**Kinda like when all them dirty wops piled into New York. Or the polacks and krauts dirtying up Chicago. Yup, those disgusting subhumans sure did wreck every place they invaded, didn't they?

They brought their criminal gangs with them, and filled the headlines with murders. And not only that, they smelled bad, ate weird food, crowded into rundown tenements...**

Yes, but all of that is nothing compared to the destruction that white protestants have visited on our society.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 06:15pm PT
so for some of you the logic is since we have our own gangs already why not welcome all the others out there as well that are even MORE VIOLENT in nature? really??

With that line of logic it would be ok for me to go into the valley and nutcracker and start bashing the snot out of it with pins every three feet calling it A1 for me right..? Hey sure its a step backwards but its all gud..
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 06:25pm PT
I had WILD times in high school as there were many Indians. There were jock groups , cowboy groups, stoners and indians. The inians fought the cowboy groups, the jocks fought the indians, the indians would come after the stoners. We even had the fire department show up at a large ruccus to hose us down once. About a month into my freshman year, i decided to enter the martial arts ASAP..Cuz you either got with it you got it.. The "culture" of Carson was quite different from Sparks at the time. Sparks was nearly ALL stoners. and mellohhwww..

Carson was the wild west in comparison in the early 70s.

Edit: BWAH! Eggzakly Toad! Only they were here in the late 1600s, already in cahoots with the locals to change em..;-) But if they hadnt,, someone else would have ----hehe..




i remember the moment well that i decided to take Karate,, while watching a fight, a LARGE Paiute from an infamous group of siblings, DROP KICKED me square in the junk just for fun out of nowhere. I nearly passed out and was sore for a week.. Fate had its way though and the year after high school i got to exact my revenge and then some on that same guy in a local bar one night. It was sweet. He hadnt changed a bit,, but I had..Hes now a permanent resident of the state pen.





edit: Look up CiudadJuarez in Mexico to see what has happened there. We fight other countries for such atrocities in the ME but ignore the plight and cartels that have taken mexico over. If theres any country WE should occupy to restore order, wouldnt that , being a bordering country, be more logical? Wouldnt THAT be better for the good mexican people?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 10, 2012 - 04:27pm PT
Tuba thefts are up.

"...the thefts are motivated by the growing popularity of banda, a traditional Mexican music form in which tubas play a dominant role."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/education/tuba-thefts-plague-california-schools.html?_r=0

I remember when Country Music became real popular. Nobody noted an abundance of banjos being ripped off then.

Demographic differences at work.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2012 - 04:33pm PT
a "plague" of tuba thefts.. Interesting wording..

Tubs go from 2000.00 on up to 7K or more. So i guess its easier and cheaper to steal them than rent them.. They are available for rent im sure. Yet another cultural difference in the negative.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 10, 2012 - 04:44pm PT
Hahaha... sk8ers are a subculture in the US, but gang bangers and drug dealers define third world culture. And you wonder why people call you a racist?
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2012 - 04:53pm PT
no one ever said any such thing there Wessie.. What was said is that you get the BAD part of the cultures too. And yes skaters are a sub culture much like climbing.. People who label me racist are either racist themselves, full of guilt for nothing, or just to dense to read words and comprehend.


and FYI the CARTELS werent invented in Omaha.

dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Dec 10, 2012 - 05:34pm PT
No TGT, they will say your Black in-laws have been brainwashed and must not know who you really are. Because some minorities must be brainwashed if they don't understand that they are a victim of a white society.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Dec 10, 2012 - 05:44pm PT
it does not give Ron any comfort that because the Poles and Irish stank up the place in 1880, other groups have every right to do it NOW

Nope. And I wasn't implying that it should, or at least not in the short term. Just trying to point out that this is not a new problem. It's the same old problem but its hitting Ron in Carson City now, instead of your grandfather in Chicago in 1930.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 10, 2012 - 05:50pm PT
You stand corrected...

There are many "white trash" places here in Nevada as well and yes - that is also a cultural problem. Culture being predominantly METH.

The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES. Primarily considered behind the times, with lawlessness as a norm, and societal practices that are deemed un acceptable in most any other countries.

So you can expect that those cultures will come with the people.
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Dec 10, 2012 - 06:54pm PT
When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result. They begin to take on the look and feel of those third world areas from whence they came. And being illegals and un documented people, they tend to flock amongst those of the like nature. And then comes "ghettos" and slums if you will for a lack of a better wording while property values fall..

Yep, in the 19th century the whole friggin' city of New York was blighted with an Irish Catholic ghetto just like the one you describe above. That's why the Irish hate African Americans so much: they fought it out with them at the bottom in Boston and New York in the 19th century for the underclass jobs. The animosity has never gone away. Remember William Bonny (aka 'Billy the Kid')? He left Hell's Kitchen in New York, the largest Irish ghetto in the US, and moved out to Tombstone in New Mexico Territory. "Killed 21 (white) men for his 21 years, not counting N_ggas, Indians and Mexicans".

My point? It's been that way in the USA a long, long time. After maybe three generations, when they finally get into the middle classes and the professions, then THEY become WHITE like everyone else. A toughening process to be sure. Why did the Italians start the Mafia? Because everyone discriminated against them so they created their own protection organization.

But doesn't CVS today seem like it's a store in northern Mexico? Something about the service level and the variety of product choices. Makes you think the new global economy is spelled: POVERTY.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 10, 2012 - 07:26pm PT
It is only spelled POVERTY for 47% of Uhmerikuhns and 99% of the global population. For the rest it is spelled GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED FREE MARKET CAPITALISM.
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Dec 10, 2012 - 07:37pm PT
Culture? I think that it's all about income. Poor people have sh#t lives and do sh#t stuff. Have three jobs? Then no time to worry about where you throw your trash or how many fish you have.

People bring their income with them but when people start to make less, they too move to cheaper places. Where? The crap part of town of course.

Since it has all to do with income and nothing to do with native culture, I would say that you are income-ist.

But really, you have to be prejudice to be an -ist. Racist, sexist, culture-ist, whatever. You need to learn of a persons race, sex, culture, etc., and then make a judgement about them without knowing any other information. Are you that? Do you hate them because of where they came from regardless of how they act or do you see how they act and then hate them for that?

Dave
damo62

Social climber
Brisbane
Dec 10, 2012 - 07:43pm PT
R A, do you really think climbing is a culture?

"That's why the Irish hate African Americans so much"-----wow, can you back that one up? If not then back off!

"Why did the Italians start the Mafia? Because everyone discriminated against them so they created their own protection organization."-------get a clue, read a little.
Psilocyborg

climber
Dec 10, 2012 - 07:50pm PT
You are a first rate moron if you don't realize people manipulate your own white guilt.

Xenophobia is a HUMAN trait. It doesn't belong to anyone, it belongs to all of us. We will never over come it. As we try to overcome it, here come the ass f*#ks that will manipulate, lie, cheat, and steal. These are HUMAN traits. Black white brown red we are all xenophobic, we are all lazy, evil, good, loving, hating, jealous ect ect ect
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 10:37am PT
here is a recent example of a culture foreign to most any we have here.

They are "celebrating ashura.. No it isnt a scene from the ME,, it is in Georgia USA..Seems slashing and cutting is "celebrating"..


So what if you and the kids were driving down this country road to go "craggin" or "fishin" and ran into a scene such as this?





how many future terrorists in this pic?
how many future terrorists in this pic?
Credit: Ron Anderson





Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:41am PT
They are not MEN.

We tried to tell you.



DMT
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:43am PT
ron,

i think if you were driving down the road and saw that, then you might just want to be real neighborly...help them out. get out the old bull whip and flog the crap out of them. tell them there is no need for thanks.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:46am PT
Call it what you like but the unrelenting republican opposition to "anything Obama" is fueled by thinly veiled racisim.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 10:50am PT
Holy shizzle JD..HADNT even thought about obama posting that pic this am..


But R U saying obama has ties to muslims here er sumpn??






edit: Another funny thing,, the schools here have gone away from ANY religious aspects concerning christians, but now many are making "special considerations" to students that are muslim so they can pray five times a day at school. So follow that out for ten years and we shall see the same scenes at our schools that Georgia now sees on their country roads. Cool huh...
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:18am PT
Change might be good. What race in the history of the world has f*#ked up the planet more, and killed more people than whitey?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:43am PT
Gee you're right Ron, that's scary.

It would be much better if our kids would just hang out with nice, white, American boys and learned only of the ways of Jesus.









squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:50am PT
Another funny thing,, the schools here have gone away from ANY religious aspects concerning christians

Oh really? So the Dino museum opening up and the christian science classes of the south do not exist in your world? Science illiteracy in the white christian fundamentalist communities is at an all time high, and here you are whining about brown people and their culture?

Now for those of you mentioning ancient history such as slavery, i should inform you we have a partially black man in the whitehouse as President

Ancient history? Ancient history? Do you have any sort of education at all? Slavery, race discrimination and even gender bias are things this country deals with every day, from a judge selling children to a prison for profit to human trafficking, racial violence from skin heads and nazis, the republican party still attacking working women in the major media saying females are damaging our children by having a career...

Ancient history my ass dude, it's right here and now if people like you had their way..
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 11:50am PT
Indeed Survival.. We have OUR OWN nutcase factions.. However, the NEWER nutcase factions are paling those in comparison. So by all means let us encourage the importation of ALL the worlds crazies. Last time i checked,, it wasnt our home grown terrorists exploding bombs in Boston and such.




survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:52am PT
The Nazi party pales in comparison to Ashura?

You better do some reading Ron.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 11:56am PT
When was the last time the natzi party exploded bombs at a public event.?

When was the last time a skin head flew a plane into a building or attempted to board a plane with exploding britches or shuz?


And NO im NOT sticking up for any dastardly group. What i AM sayng is we now invite EVERYONE elses whackos here. And then are told time and time again its a religion of peaze. They arent even peazful to themselves.


LOOK around the globe dude.. ISLAM is causing more deaths that ANYONE/THING on the planet now. And that includes THEIR OWN.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:00pm PT
LOOK around the globe dude.. ISLAM is causing more deaths that ANYONE/THING on the planet now.


Wrong. Nothing has ever been more deadly than white guys and christianity.

109,032 deaths including 66,081 civilian deaths.

These are just Iraq, and only the numbers attributed to the American military. Muslims haven't done that anywhere recently Ron. Get a f*#king clue.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
If you feel compelled to start a thread about how you're NOT a racist...
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
yeah Islam is the bad guy, Christians have never killed, they are perfect...and the white ones are even better because their culture is better...

I do love the defense of skinheads and nazis while saying you are not defending them...

Not only are you a hypocrite within your own posts but you are so ignorant that you are completely blind to how you appear to your audience...If you had any kind of cultural exposure you would feel pretty shitty about yourself right now...

I'm kinda upset people like you live in my state still...
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
Things that are causing more deaths than Islam:

Western Military weapons
Alcohol
Cigarettes
Cars
(all of these could be in the First World Problems thread)

Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
Squish,,, WHAT "christian" murders do you speak of? I havent seen those lately on the news?



And as far as YOUR interpretation of me defending skin heads,, meh...


And its MY state.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:07pm PT
How about Malaria?

Malaria kills one child every 30 seconds, about 3000 children every day.
Over one million people die from malaria each
year, mostly children under five years of age,
with 90 per cent of malaria case
s occurring in Sub-Saharan Africa.


Why aren't you yelling about Malaria in Africa?
ncrockclimber

climber
The Desert Oven
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
Things that are causing more deaths than Islam:

Western Military weapons
Alcohol
Cigarettes
Cars

These are issues. This thread is all about Ron wanting another venue to vent his bigotry.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 12:15pm PT
Survival,,for the same reason im not yelling about the deaths related to alcohol consumption annually.


Now maybe the scene in that pic i posted this am DOESNT make you think anything. But if that were MY neighborhood i WOULD be thinking on this..

Never mind the last victim from the boston bombing was released from the hospital yesterday minus her leg.
Never mind the shooting death of another terrorist in Florida connected to pother murders and the boston bombers.
Never mind the arrest of another bomber in the planning in Idaho recently .

Never mind the FOUR arrested in CA, recently that planned killing troops in Afghanny.


Its all a religion of peaze..
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:20pm PT
Call it what you like but the unrelenting republican opposition to "anything Obama" is fueled by thinly veiled racisim.

true that
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:24pm PT

And its MY state.


You weren't even born here like I was. Get out of MY state, lol!

You remind me of Nixon: I'm not a crook.

Of course, he was.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 12:25pm PT
Kenny,, if that "sauce" gets any weaker its gonna be water. ;-)
I was surprised to see that actually. The thought of obama NEVER entered my mind.

But i can see where DEMS are "quite touchy" about their guy as of now .. ROFLMAO!




kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:26pm PT
The thought of obama NEVER entered my mind

I believe he was speaking in general
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
But Ron's never wrong, Kenny. I don't trust anybody who is never wrong, it's not a trait of human beings.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
JD is a constant puzzle to me.. Quite interesting actually.





And Jeebs,, Who,, between you and I,, do yo think has done more for the state of NV..? I was moved here in the first grade. NV is all i know. So it IS my state. (of mind)
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
You bring the state of NV down as a spokesperson. Me and my family work in healthcare, as mechanics, for the press, serving in the military here in Nevada. Get out, punk!

Mostly joshing you, but your thinly veiled racism is apparent to many here now. But you keep on slogging on: I am not a racist!

You ever wonder why you have to keep saying that?

edit: I got ya, Ron. Between you and I, you have brought down NV a LOT more than I have. Are we going to ask whose dad can beat up the other while we're making childish comparisons? You seem to think only some people are worthy based on whatever criteria you choose. Sort of a segregation of who is American or who isn't. Can't see why people keep calling you out.... geeze, wonder why.

No, Ron, people who say ignorant, racist things are called racists. Reflexively discriminating against somebody else's culture IS racism. So don't be surprised if you in particular are called a racist.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 12:34pm PT
dont even go with the FAMILY record jeebs,, ill paste ya.

I asked Between YOU AND I.


edit: Jeebs,, the RACIST card is thrown like rubber ball these days. If your not a dem yur a racist. its the ONLY choice. So its hardly worth a retort. But i guess that pic in Georgia is just normal for you.. Dang,, didnt know reno had went that way..
QITNL

climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:41pm PT
Edit: Photo of Banner Peak removed. It seems to have served its purpose. Besides, I'm not giving away my hi-res shots, they are far more valuable than anything on this thread.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
^^^Mom and dad fought in front of him.

edit: QITNL your high res photo was too damn big to appreciate on the small screen!
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 12:46pm PT
jeebs i would stray away from the ma/pa thing..Ill ask that of you nicely. Once.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
Hmmmm, a guy who thinks spanking oneself in Georgia is more important than thousands of children dying every day from Malaria, hmmmm...

Is that what I'm getting here Ron?


CAN YOU AT LEAST ADMIT THAT YOUR COMMENT ABOUT ISLAM KILLING MORE THAN ANYTHING TODAY IS WRONG?

And you swiftly ignored my post about the numbers of Iraqis killed by American bombs. But that doesn't fit your world view, I get it.


Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
I wasn't talking to you, Ron. I was talking about QITNL passive aggressively blowing out the sidewalls cuz it couldn't handle the topic. Settle down, tough guy.

Apology please? I'll ask that of you nicely. Once.

LOL. Too many Eastwood films for SOMEbody.
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
Ron's parents obviously beat him up, fought in front of him and they were fat...they taught him to question everything, including facts. He has grown to be a valued member and proud representative of this fine country all because of Ron's parents and their self sacrifice and sound logic expertly applied to child rearing.

What aids him the most is under exposure and isolation from the very cultures he fears and demonizes. He must also carry a gun in case anyone overhears his mouth in public and decides to introduce education to his face by means of a fist...
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
ahhh,, well then you have MY apology Jeebs.. ( im touchy towards the fam.. you can call me anything.;-))





and Survival, all though dated, im sure the percentage has gone up.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/sunni-muslim-extremists-committed-70-terrorist-murders-2011



edit : Squishy GFYS And i mean it. DO NOT DRAG MY FAMILY INTO YOUR LOW LIFE CHILDISH CRAP.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
Sunni Muslim terrorists committed “about 70 percent” of the 12,533 terrorist murders in the world last year, according to a report by the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC)

Once again I will patiently introduce you to some math Ron.

12,500 is less than one million malaria deaths annually.

12,500 is less than 109,000 Iraqis dead by American military.

But it's not important to you, so what's the point? It's only important to kill Muslims and make plenty of enemies to kill in the future.

In that sense we're doing a marvelous job, so you should be happy, not fearful.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
I said TODAY,, not a total tally as that would take far to long to do.

TODAY, in Iraq, it is muslim on muslim deaths that by far out number any other sources.


and I ask you,, do you think there might be a terrorist in that pic in Georgia i posted? What are the mathematical odds? They ALL seem to be extremists in their "religious" traits it seems..Least in my book.. Thinking like an LEO,, i would be interviewing every identifiable person in that picture and looking into their history with a flea comb, while maintaining surveillance..
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
What do you expect when a giant troll says "here's my button don't push it"..

If you are going to sit here and feel ok about the things you are saying, then I am going to sit here and feel no remorse about trash talking your family. Your kind is a disease in this country, and you should have never put any emphasis on your family or jumped to conclusions and overreacting defense. The things you say in this thread are just as offensive to me as you may find me talking about your family, get it? oh and your mom is fat...
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
you have the mouff sqush,, so tell me WHO you are and where for that matter.

Ive made my name and location well known. Show me you have some real sackage and not just internet placebo-ballz.

till then GFYS.


how many future terrorists in this pic?
how many future terrorists in this pic?
Credit: Ron Anderson

anyone that desires this kind of SHYT in their neighborhood is a fool who should be sterilized for the sake of humanity.
You guys will yammer on about a BOOB thread, but this is acceptable here in the good ol USA. Thats a fair statement of America today i guess.




Edit: to get back to the OP point, are there cultures that DONT FIT in American society? Look at that pic above and tell me that "fits" here in America in any way shape or form? Tell me youd like this scene in your neck of the woods.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jun 5, 2013 - 01:44pm PT
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 01:45pm PT
I said TODAY

TODAY Malaria will kill more children than radical Islam.

TODAY automobiles will kill more people than radical Islam.

TODAY cancer will kill more people than radical Islam.

TODAY respiratory infection will kill more than radical Islam.

TODAY AIDS will kill more than radical Islam.

TODAY cerebrovascular disease will kill more than radical Islam.

TODAY Tuberculosis will kill more than radical Islam.

TODAY Diarrheal diseases will kill more than radical Islam.





Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 01:51pm PT
And Boooze

and drugs


and CARS

and african bees

and so on.


This thread isnt about those. This thread is about a group of people that now migrate here. Many of them are extremists like those pictured above. Many have found to be terrorists and more WILL be found. Its about schools reverse discriminating to appease a particular religious group. The same group that harbors terrorists. The same group that in no way by strict definition fits into american societal rules regulations and laws.. It only took two "nice young lads" to blast well over a hundred in Boston. Try not to forget that IMPORTANT fact.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
no thats happening doc.

Now simple question. WHY GIVE religious preferential treatment to anyone let alone those where over 70% of the worlds terrorists come from? In a strictly scientific/mathematical approach, does this make sense?
It isnt their religion , but their culture as well that they bring here.
If your a woman, dog, gay or any other religion, then your certainly less than they are by definition in their scriptures.

Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:11pm PT
WHY GIVE religious preferential treatment to anyone let alone those where over 70% of the worlds terrorists come from?

Because it's America and religious persecution isn't part of the game plan. Move somewhere else if you don't like it. Bad stuff happens and much bad stuff is averted here in the States. Despite your Chicken Little propaganda, that really hasn't changed this being a great place to live.

When people of whatever ideology or culture or race cross the line, they get prosecuted under the law. Simple. Not racist.

Yes, disasters happen. No, those disasters are not a reason to throw out the American way of life, the values of accepting and assimilating the strengths of all human culture, and overall religious freedom. Nope. Move it to Ronghanistan if you don't like it.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
Its always a over-blown, yet simplistic reaction from you Jeebs.. I know your smarter than that. Ive asked very particular questions here of which you do not address. You DID mention a very key word though.. ASSIMILATE. And we here in America have laws, rules and regulations, no matter where or how you work, that we of ALL faiths here abide by. Yet the Islamic faith now seeks , even through lawsuits, "special treatments" due to their religion. Even our TAX structures do not fit into to their cultures. There are many glaring aspects of Islam that dont fit into our LAWS, RULES and REGULATIONS. This isnt about skin color, racism or anything else other than a cultural clash as i see it. It seems i cant win even if im sticking up for Women, Dogs and Gays. (guffaw)
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
The same group that in no way by strict definition fits into american societal rules regulations and laws..

well...when you say it that way...
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
It's simple to respond to gibberish, Ron ;). The amount of people you sway here is nil. You don't do anybody else the courtesy of looking at their points seriously, why should anybody extend the same to you?

My wager is people will get tired of you saying the same crap, denying the same accusations, pitching the same fits over how ill-treated you are, and you will be run off like Fattrad was before you. You act like a troll, even if you don't know it, and people eventually get fed up with it.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
over blown


simplistic

non-addressing..


tenfour,, over and out.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:46pm PT
made up

paranoid

racist fear monger

At least I don't have to author threads about how I'm not a racist.

You've got a lot of good to share, but your same old crappy political troll threads ain't one of 'em. People will get wise and you'll have to preach to another choir.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:52pm PT
Many of them are extremists like those pictured above.

Credit: survival

Credit: survival


Those are christians in case yer wondering bro....
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:52pm PT
What about the Irish Catholics? They came over here after the Potato Famine and lived in rotting slums on the East Coast like Hells Kitchen in New York. Breeding ground of William Bonny (alias Billy the Kid). Always sending their money to the IRA back in the Fatherland to rebel and kill Brits. Their neighborhoods were filled with crime and prostitution and they took orders directly from the Pope in Rome. Should never be allowed to become President or hold elected office because of their divided loyalties. Then along came that Kennedy Clan with a Pro-Nazi father into bootlegging and bought their way into the country club, Harvard and the Washington beltway. Now, Irish walk right down the street in broad daylight and they've taken over the Police force too.

Bet the same thing will happen with the Muslims and the character of the good old USA will be changed forever. No constant but change. Look at what happened to the Roman Empire when they didn't assimilate the Goths due to 'ethic tension' with the native Roman population. The Goths took over.

The Italians, the Portuguese and the Irish used to take orders from the WASPs. Now the Italians, Portuguese, and Irish give orders to the Mexicans. This ugly social democracy melting pot just keeps going and going and going until, as De Tocqueville predicted, there's going to be a huge race war. Just ask Charlie Manson. Better hope the money trees just keep blooming to iron out the social differences.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
Trust me,, when that westboro gang started off by picketing soldier funerals they too went into a "tiolet" of my classifications.

BUT the difference here is none of them BOMBED Boston or were recruited to go kill US soldiers in afghanny, or flew planes into buildings. Unless i missed something..
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:56pm PT


The conflict in northern Ireland between Christians and Christians killed more people than the 9/11 attacks.

The crusades (Christian Terrorism at its worst) killed nearly 10 million people.

Over 10 times more people have been killed in Iraq than were killed in the 9/11 attacks.


BTW, good to see the idiots still suffering from "911 Tourettes" with a new strain of "Boston Marathonitis." Every time they are confronted with facts regarding their bias, their response involves 911 and/or the BM.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
Please support Ronghanistan. A major export product is "facts". They are made up by the thousands daily and will fit any occasion. Even though they are shoddily constructed, they come very cheap by the dozen.

Although Ronghistan is a very beautiful country of sagebrush and trailer park brothels that was once a nuclear test site, tourism is not allowed because the locals hate outsiders and hunting licenses for foreigners are issued quite easily. Not carrying a gun is actually a crime there, so please honor local customs of intolerance.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 04:06pm PT
Bruce, you do bring up a good point of the fact we are always changing. We can do that one of two ways, for the better, or for the worse.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 04:08pm PT
More christians.

Credit: survival
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
BUT the difference here is none of them BOMBED Boston or were recruited to go kill US soldiers in afghanny, or flew planes into buildings. Unless i missed something..


Well, I guess it's possible that you missed the part where we killed a COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND of their people since 2001.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 05:03pm PT
Doc, of course there are sad times in our HISTORY. But,, we got beyond that in large eh? I know many different Natives, all abiding by the same laws you and i do, the same work policies and the same regulations to "hunt". We all like it that way-- whats good for one man is good for the next kinda philosophy. Whats in the past is just that. The tribe im partially from was among those on the trail of tears. But also were present in the Bataan death march..

But they dont Sue for their religious beliefs to exhibit in schools and work places. They "assimilated" into a certain standard set forth by regulations and laws just like you and i do.


and Survival,, really,, calling the ME fiasco a "christian thing" is just plain silly. Ill bet there were atheists squezzin triggers over there as well.




Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 5, 2013 - 05:07pm PT
Racism, or cultural-ism?

The U.S. Army staff sergeant accused of slaughtering 16 Afghan civilians in two villages pleaded guilty Wednesday in a move expected to spare him from the death penalty.

And when a military judge asked Robert Bales, 39, why he slaughtered the men, women and children outside Camp Belambay in southern Afghanistan on March 11, 2012, Bales gave his first and only public explanation for the attack.

"Sir, as far as why: I've asked that question a million times since then," said Bales, according to the Associated Press. "There's not a good reason in this world for why I did the horrible things I did."

Bales appeared in military uniform at Joint Base Lewis-McChord outside Seattle, where his military tribunal is being held.

Part of his plea deal with prosecutors involved a requirement that he give an account of the killings and of burning the villagers' bodies before returning to base with bloodstained clothing.

His initial recollection of the slaughter, which was recalled to the court and to the Los Angeles Times in vivid detail by the survivors, poured out in cold legalese.

"I left the VSP [Village Stability Platform at Belambay] and went to the nearby village of Alkozai," Bales told the judge, Col. Jeffery Nance, according to the AP. "While inside a compound in Alkozai, I observed a female I now know to be Na'ikmarga. I formed the intent to kill Na'ikmarga, and I did kill Na'ikmarga by shooting her with a firearm. This act was without legal justification, sir."
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 05:09pm PT
Ron, where did I call it a "christian thing" since you put it in quotations, it's supposed to be a QUOTE!!

And no, that wouldn't be silly at all...

Christians were there (M.E.) before Muslims right?
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 5, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
Christians are also participants in Palestinian terrorism, not that you ever hear that part of it.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 05:15pm PT
Im sure in some eyes it is indeed that. But you an i both know its over oil, dollars, debts, and bl*w jobs among the leaders of our nations.

And while the drone thing may be scientifically effective, it hardened the hatred of us about five fold im thinkin..

Im the first to admit,, EVERY DAMM dealing weve had since our original support of osam buttwadden has been PISS POOR.

But yet the people here do nothing. They wont dare FIRE anyone that is obviously holding status quo.
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
you have the mouff sqush,, so tell me WHO you are and where for that matter.

Ive made my name and location well known. Show me you have some real sackage and not just internet placebo-ballz.

My name is Sean Wendland and I live in Sacramento...and...why are you so interested in my sack? Do you like big ballz on your internet boyfriends?

Maybe there's some "yo mamma so fat" police you could call if your so butthurt..

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 5, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
Another Case of White Christian Racism and Cultural Terrorism:


Now I am not racist, in fact most of my friends are White People, but White People brought with them from Europe their own SECRET racism, and it goes against the laws!

And they brought with them their so called "religion" and their own "culture"

White Christians are at it again:


An Alabama high school student is being fined $1,000 and having her diploma withheld after wearing an eagle feather in her graduation cap on May 23.

Chelsey Ramer, of the Poarch Creek Band of Indians, wore the spiritually and culturally symbolic feather at her Escambia Academy High School graduation ceremony as a display of pride in her heritage, according to local news outlet WPMI-TV. However, a graduation dress code contract stated students were not allowed to wear “extraneous items during graduation exercises unless approved by the administration."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/03/chelsey-ramer-indian-feather-high-school-graduation_n_3380961.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 05:56pm PT
Schools have had dress codes forever.. No big surprise there Norton..Hardly "racism" imo. Then if that is allowed, then the young KKK member can wear his pointy hat right? Where would that end-- with youngsters especially? Mountain from a non existent mole hill..
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 06:56pm PT
















Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
Hahaha... Squishy wins!!!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 5, 2013 - 07:11pm PT
Personally, not that it matters, I think Ron is racist. I could be wrong, but his writing points directly at that. A thinly veiled cover is just that, thinly veiled. People can see through it.

I live in the backwoods of NH. Think town of 2000 people. There are a lot of racist people where I live. I've quit going to certian social gatherings because there are way too many comments about niggers and how many guns are owned. I'm cool with guns, I own them, but the overtly racist dialogue I hear when people are a little buzzed is really too much for me.

I have zero tolerance for racism, sexism, or homophobia.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 07:13pm PT
I hate it when they think you're one of them. Hey, we're all racists here, right?!
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 5, 2013 - 07:34pm PT

I watched a video of Mitt Romney speaking today

I have to say that I was impressed that he was articulate, for a White Person I mean


I thought he was a Credit to his Race
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
Ron may actually believe he is not a racist, he may not realize the things he says are racist. I personally see thinly veiled racism in his words (as do most of this audience) but racism can be a product of misunderstanding as much as it is fueled by hate.

In fact, I will admit to saying very similar things at times, and I too profess to being color blind. I am willing to bet everyone, from any race, has said stupid sh#t before. If that ignorant or stupid thing you said was about racial generalizations or characteristics, then you too are guilty of the same thing. I'm not talking about racist jokes, I love those and I love hearing good ones, but that's when you know it's all in good fun or joking. I am talking about assumptions, mis-judging a book by it's cover and generalizations about people or neighborhoods that really are unneeded. My statements, though technically right or wrong at the time, in retrospect were pretty racist. And I don't think I am a racist, at least I don't want to believe I am and I don't want to be. But I am ignorant about many things and I have no problem admitting that.

Sure, let's all point and laugh, but lets remember why and try steering ourselves in the right direction too. There's nuance to this subject, you may not hate other races or people different than yourself but you may not understand them or understand the nuances of communicating about them or with them. In these cases, I think it's perfectly ok to claim ignorance. Taking responsibility for your ignorance is a much better approach than veiling your understanding and appearing hateful.

Ron has a hard time being wrong, so it's easy to guess that he wishes to appear strong, prideful and as a result hateful or "thinly veiled"...
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 5, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
Ron has a hard time being wrong

on the contrary, I think he find it effortless
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
Rons views are had by being an ex leo. Ron thinks to himself when he saw that photo in Georgia this am, that they: are certainly extremist islamics,
by the ODDS should most definitely be looked into, and that i would be worried if i came up in that scene as an leo.

There are hundreds being watched here now by FBI and DHS. Thats what i thought coming from being trained to simply spot the obvious. Those that have killed and maimed us here are islamic extremists.. The picture indicates the very same.

Ask your self what a Boston Victim would do driving in the woods into that ? How would they feel?

So i guess your ok with a sect that is against the gays, dogs, and womens rights then? I Then must assume your all sexists 100%...




I would also like to ask why the hecklers here DID NOT post on the Lucho Rivera- ESPN thread? There a GOOD young m
Mexican American got himself OUT of the gangs for climbing. One of the best stories ive read lately yet NUN of you bumped it or made so much as a peep. I however was first to respond.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 5, 2013 - 08:44pm PT
Ron, you are referring to a positive story.

When anything negative happens regarding someone who was not born here, but lives here, you're the first to jump on the hate train (broad generalization, but mostly correct). Why?

Sorry to jump on the hate train toward you, but you asked for it in starting this thread.

Also, why do you write very well sometimes, but write like a hick in your writing other times?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 08:53pm PT
Brandon,, no one here has answered any direct questions ive posed.

As far as my writing style, ive fit into a wide variety of atmospheres from cowboy, to hick to hippie, to rock n roller to leo to classical symphony settings. Im a never ending evolving work in progress. I like to write with a little humor injected by the "hick" side of me. The USFS dude wrote EAs and his own entire court case proceedings. All quite grammatically proper.. Truly around here you know the people you can get along with fairly quickly, and there are many here that i do indeed get along with great. As for whut the rest think,, ive not a care one.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
you don't care?
why did you start the post? obviously you care...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 08:58pm PT
Ed ,, dang you!

LMAO!!!!


I have to represent those behind the scene that email me and facebook me in support of my view. ;-) call it the "sub tribe" if you will. Its a heavy burden but someone must. That tribe includes those of many colors. mind blower,, i know... They simply dont want to enter the frey. Dont blame them really.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
sub tribe?
if the shoe fits, wear it I guess...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 09:03pm PT
somethings in life you seek, others are thrust upon you.


edit: Ed, since your here, looking at the pic i posted this am, using your analytic skills, give me a percentage of one of those persons being a terrorist by factors known to you from the news and terrorist attacks here?

Just a quickie off the bean thing, not a full scale graph or such..;-)
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:08pm PT
Rons views are had by being an ex leo. Ron thinks to himself when he saw that photo in Georgia this am, that they: are certainly extremist islamics,
by the ODDS should most definitely be looked into, and that i would be worried if i came up in that scene as an leo.

There are hundreds being watched here now by FBI and DHS. Thats what i thought coming from being trained to simply spot the obvious. Those that have killed and maimed us here are islamic extremists.. The picture indicates the very same.

Ask your self what a Boston Victim would do driving in the woods into that ? How would they feel?

So i guess your ok with a sect that is against the gays, dogs, and womens rights then? I Then must assume your all sexists 100%...

So you profile people based on appearance in America, as a law enforcement officer and you are afraid of religions that are against gays, dogs and women's rights?

I don't know much about this dog thing, but Christians seem to fit your fear, are you a christian?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
I "look like" a terrorist to many people, Ron...
... you probably haven't experienced that, you're not making a very convincing defense.
Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
Ron,

The practice of penitente, including self-flaggelation has been going on in parts of New Mexico for hundreds of years, even before our nation was founded. I never thought to correlate the practice by those Catholics as terrorism.

Edit. ....now Ed, on the other hand..........
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
Im a believer in the natural laws of my ancestors of the Choctaw. I found those to be very similar to the good aspects of Christianity just like they did way back when around the civil war times. Ive gone to every major "style" of church around and found hypocrisy in each. No matter how hard they tried not to, it was there. I have friends of many faiths , and it really doesnt enter the picture as they think the golden rule is a good one too,, sort of thing. Its about basic societal rules and what is acceptable by our laws rules and regulations. Faith should be a somewhat private deal. And shouldn't collide with the rules everyone else must abide by.



edit: Timid,, none the less, A) terrorists bombing this country have all been islamic extremists. B) The picture alludes to islamic extremists imo. If that doesnt then what would might i ask?


Ed,, youve always looked like Jerry Garcia to me...
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
Faith should be a somewhat private deal. And shouldn't collide with the rules everyone else must abide by

Oh hey, check it out, progress...

Now..can you see why someone would be upset by being profiled by law enforcement for something that even you believe should be kept private?
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:21pm PT
And then right back two steps...

terrorists bombing this country have all been islamic extremists.

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/topics/anti-immigrant/
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 09:23pm PT
OK ya got me there ,, yeah mcveigh...


Ed,, your far to smart for that stuff. Really? r is.

Yeah,, im DEAD against those that come to this country to do it and its people harm, dont care whut the colour is.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:23pm PT
Atlanta Olympics bombing.

Gotya again.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 09:29pm PT
911,, my buddy fireman died when tower 2 fell on him. GOTYA.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 09:37pm PT
how many future terrorists in this pic?
how many future terrorists in this pic?
Credit: Ron Anderson


so it seems none of you geniuses can correlate a risk factor from the above photo taken in Georgia. This sort of thing doesnt make you wonder if theres not a future bomber in that pic, knowing the factors involving islamic extremists here. Roger that.. Its a GOOD thing none of you are Leo's.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:46pm PT
Insufficient data, Anderson.

Please provide data indicating the number of terrorist acts in America performed by those who self flagellate.
QITNL

climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:51pm PT
Racism is not tolerated by the moderators of this forum. Plain and simple.

Case in point: when someone started posting racist photos of Michelle Obama, I sent a note to Chris. The individual was banned, his posts were deleted. Chris thanked me - he doesn't read every post on this forum. Rather than bumping the offensive post, bringing it to his attention is the recourse he specifically suggests.

The next time Bluering refers to women as "bitches," I intend to follow the same course. I've given him a warning. If he gets booted, don't complain to me: it's his own fault.

If you think someone has crossed the line, that's what you do about it.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:53pm PT
If he gets booted, don't complain to me
complain? you'll get 100 virgins when you die


EDIT: 1,000
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:04pm PT
Apparently you define a racist as a person who admits to being one

As long as they deny it, they're in the clear?

Flip that over. If YOU declare someone to be racist, does that make it so?

I find most liberal race-baiters to be the most racist, looking at everybody though the prism of their skin color, and treating them accordingly.

The definition of racism. Notice how many lib politicians change their vocal inflections based on the ethnic group they speak to, namely blacks.
Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:07pm PT
so it seems none of you geniuses can correlate a risk factor from the above photo taken in New Mexico. This sort of thing doesnt make you wonder if theres not a future bomber in that pic, knowing the factors involving Catholic extremists

I changed two words in your quote. Hope you get the picture, Ron.....

how many future terrorists in this pic?
how many future terrorists in this pic?
Credit: Timid TopRope
how many future terrorists in this pic?
how many future terrorists in this pic?
Credit: Timid TopRope
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
Joe, how about Hillary, Biden, and Obama?
QITNL

climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:45pm PT
Sorry, jghedge, I don't quite follow you.

I wrote, as you quoted:
"If you think someone has crossed the line, that's what you do about it."

You replied:
"Apparently you define a racist as a person who admits to being one. As long as they deny it, they're in the clear?"

I'm not trying to define a racist. I think everyone is somewhat racist, including myself. I'm just reiterating the specific steps outlined to keep our conversation somewhat pleasant.

The ultimate arbiter of this forum is Chris. He owns it; it's part of his business. I don't think he (or anyone who submits a complaint) is defining anyone as a racist; it's equally irrelevant if this person considers himself racist. It's the hate-speech - not the individual - which is not tolerated.

The question is more like this: is the material submitted appropriate for this audience? When it comes to nudity, Chris has decided and explicitly stated it's not. When it comes to other topics, I'll accept his judgement. In fact, I have to - my only choice is whether I want to post here or not.

I hope it doesn't appear I'm dodging your question, perhaps I don't understand it. And to be honest, I don't really believe in these definitions in general. A climber is only a climber when he's climbing; when he stops he becomes a belayer, or just some bloke like everyone else.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:52pm PT

Where's the references to what you were actually talking about?

Or you think casting aspersions with nothing to back them up will make you look less foolish?


Are you just playing stupid? These were big stories. Maybe just on FOX, I guess.

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:01pm PT
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/14/biden-romneys-wall-street-will-put-yall-back-in-chains/

Biden telling blacks that Repubs want to put them back in chains!

(when they are the ones that ironically freed them from chains, despite Dem disputes)

Here's Hillary invoking 'blackness'; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGDm4jkDbGQ

Dems did more damage to blacks than Repubs historically.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 11:04pm PT
Hey Bluey,,harry ried tard said " i dont know why any hispanics would vote republican"
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:06pm PT
Ronnie. They are they racists. WE look at Americans, not ethnicity or skin color.

Except you can't link to any of those "big stories", you lying piece of shit


Look up^^^^^. I posted them.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:11pm PT
i dont know why any hispanics would vote republican"

LOL

so what, I don't either

is that somehow a big deal comment, LOL?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:13pm PT
Literally quoting someone's words is "invoking blackness"?


Why?

Why does she have to use a phony black slang, why can't she just quote him?

Answer: She's pandering.

And Biden? No excuse.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:16pm PT
No Bluering
conservatives did the damage
not the name of a Political party that changes with the times

It was the Conservatives then, and now that are the racists
It was the conservatives that went to war with the North to keep their slaves, not the liberals

the liberals then, and now are the ones trying to guarantee equal rights for all


Who freed the slaves, idiot! Who elected the first black member to Congress?

You're a fool.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 11:21pm PT
Well Norton to the republican Hispanics i know yeah i guess thats an insult.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:23pm PT
Sweet tailspin this thead took.

Blue, you're wrong because the GOP.....nevermind.....not worth it. You've already told me that you dislike most people and won't listen to any point I make.

Good luck in your life of distrust and anger.

And, I'm assuming that when you read this, you'll be completely baffled by my comment. You're right and if you don't agree with 'em, then F 'em, right? No retreat, no surrender!!!!!

Fare well, dude. I wish you the best.



bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:23pm PT

SHE DID, IDIOT!!!!!

SHE LITERALLY QUOTED HIM!!!

DO YOU NEED THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD "LITERALLY" EXPLAINED TO YOU???

Vocal inflection changes. Did you hear me say that? Did you hear her do that?

That was my point! Nice job trying to deflect my point.
manzanita man

Social climber
somerset, ca.
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:27pm PT
there are alot of retards on this post and ron a. is not 1. he is the most level headed dude on this forum. the rest of you scream racism at anything you can. just like jackson and co. even when you are wrong. a bunch of dumb asses. GFYS.


BESIDES WERNER. WE ARE DUMD AMERICANS.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:29pm PT
Yeah, he's so level-headed he forgot Oklahoma City, Atlanta Olympics, and the university bombings were done by white Americans.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:33pm PT
im DEAD against those that come to this country to do it and its people harm, dont care whut the colour is.

What about those that are already here? McVeigh, Kaczynski, Rudolph, etc. Should we drone their asses? Or should we check their religious affiliation and/or race first?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
Mono-- impossible to monitor every american. NOT impossible to monitor known extremists. This is about culture clash, so the mcviegh and Atlanta bombings didnt fit into that even though they were much the same. Was a simple thing.. WE KNOW islamic extremists to be the perpetrators of terrorism.. We DONT know of the next citizen to go nuts.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:44pm PT
Well Norton to the republican Hispanics i know yeah i guess thats an insult.

well Ron, I live in THE MOST Hispanic state in the country

and when the Republican candidate for President tells a living room full of Hispanics I was sitting with during the debate that the solution to their grand parents sitting right next to me is to "self deport", as in get up and get your ass out of the country...

well then you dumb ass, you damn right they ain't gonna vote for a Republican

duh
manzanita man

Social climber
somerset, ca.
Jun 6, 2013 - 12:01am PT
any race does crimes. 13% of americans are black yet commit over 50% of all violent crimes. all of you that scream racism at the drop of a hat FU.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 6, 2013 - 12:07am PT
Who freed the slaves, idiot! Who elected the first black member to Congress?

Progressives.

You're a fool.

You're a drunk.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 6, 2013 - 12:16am PT
Hey, Gary, read history again.

What percentage of financial crimes are committed by white people? Are white people therefore more genetically inclined to commit bank fraud and insider trading than black people?

Or does your incapability to see beyond race render your opinions and judgement worthless?

You missed his keyword of "violent" crimes. Of course whitey (and others) commit crimes, but he was stating something more specific.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 6, 2013 - 12:30am PT
Yes, lots of "big stories" there too, no doubt, that support your lies.

Except you can't cite any of them.


Here's a clue: Quit projecting your wingnut gullibility onto reasonably intelligent people. It ain't ever gonna work, except to make YOU look stupider than you already do.


Abe Lincoln freeing the slaves? Supreme Court Nominees, Congressmen who were blacks? Was Martin Luther King a Dem?

Did that come from Republicans or Dixiecrats?

Read you history again.
manzanita man

Social climber
somerset, ca.
Jun 6, 2013 - 12:41am PT
Compare how much money black people stole last year

To how much money white people stole last year


Then explain which race deserves the more legal scrutiny

how about welfaRE, DUMBASS.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 6, 2013 - 12:47am PT
Name a bigger group of welfare recipients than the Waltons. We feed, through food stamps, house, through Section 8, and provide health care to their employees while they rake in billions.
slayton

Trad climber
Here and There
Jun 6, 2013 - 04:41am PT
Ron's not a racist. He just hates anyone, of any color or creed, that doesn't think, live, or keep a clean lawn just like him. Like so many before him throughout the history of this country he sees those flooding these shores as somehow diminishing our "culture".

Ron is a shining example of someone who takes the socially complex issues of economics and immigration and then whittles them down into something simple that he can understand: It's THEM!! They're dirty, they're criminal, they don't try to learn the language or the proper salute to the flag, they're all gangbangers (not true), and they're all illegals (also not true), and that's why I don't want them here. IT'S THEIR CULTURE!!

There is nothing new under the sun with Ron's attitude. This country has an issue with immigration. Why shouldn't we as the most prosperous nation on the face of the earth?

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free." So it says on the Statue of Liberty. I realize that there probably isn't any such proclamation in public in Carson City, NV but I figured it was a national symbol. Should we tear it down?

No! NO, no, of course not. It's the damned illegals! Just like the damned Islamist soon to be terrorist flagellating themselves! They're the problem. Until the next one. .. ..

Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 6, 2013 - 07:48pm PT
Yes Slayton far more easier to huck the racism card around. I fully understand that..People having been shying away from truly examining cause and effect for years now,, cant have the confrontation perhaps. What ever the reason i know well that im no racist. Ive helped those i considered friends no matter where they came from, and that includes Africa to Iran, PIttsburgh to Piedmont , Mexico to Czechoslovakia.

But if any part of me SHOULD be a racist, it would be that 1/8 chunk that is Choctaw. I could very well tell you ALL to go take a hike off the rock.





how many future terrorists in this pic?
how many future terrorists in this pic?
Credit: Ron Anderson



And Ed, ive done the math for you. Here in the USA right now, we have AT LEAST 35 known RADICAL Islamic groups, that train with weaponry, hand to hand etc etc. Many of these are located in semi isolated areas outside of towns from one side of the country to the other. Their memberships are well over 900 ( old figure) but we will use that as a figure.

in the recent past (since 911) weve had a total of 28 known radical islamic attackers.

That rounds to 1 out of every 32 that could become the next bomber just among these known groups. The odds are favorable that there is one in the photo above from Georgia.
Many of them are in "uniform".. This indicates a radical muslim group, one of those 35..


edit: of course this is an absolute MINIMUM figure as it doesnt take into account small cell operations like those of the Boston bombing, which are a total unknown.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 6, 2013 - 08:39pm PT
It's pretty sad how people like Joe try to re-write the history of black liberation and paint it as a Dem thing. It wasn't. It was Republicans who led the charge.

http://www.nbra.info/DYK-HistoryTest

Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 6, 2013 - 08:54pm PT
oooiyyy mudda of weak sauce doc.. Now go read yur last post in front of the mirror..See if you believe it looking back at you.?? Yur startin to get "pelosi-fied"...
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jun 6, 2013 - 09:02pm PT
Slayton! Re your assertion:

Ron's not a racist. He just hates anyone, of any color or creed, that doesn't think, live, or keep a clean lawn just like him.

What??? Ron has a lawn??
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 6, 2013 - 09:04pm PT
Hey Ron,

Do you just glass over other people's comments, or do you outright ignore them?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 6, 2013 - 09:09pm PT
Mr. Anderson just likes to make the last reply, with anything. It's like sticking a pacifier in a baby. He's pacified, till he needs to make the last response again, any response will do.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 6, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/



Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 6, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID

Jun 6, 2013 - 06:02pm PT
Slayton! Re your assertion:

Ron's not a racist. He just hates anyone, of any color or creed, that doesn't think, live, or keep a clean lawn just like him.

What??? Ron has a lawn??







BAAAAHAHAHAAAA! I wuz gonna say something to that affect myself. Fritz!


edit: Brandon,, what did you say??;-)




edit: and doc, yur charts only show voter demographics, which mean little or nothing with Blueys point. Besides, many a voter has voted for those that due them harm.. Just ask any obama supporter bout now.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 6, 2013 - 09:49pm PT
does any of that NEGATE what Bluey posted? Exactly? That article is who voted for whom. Not who did what for whom.,.da boom boom..
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 6, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
LOL, stick your head in the sand. Learn some history.

We admit the south was full of conservative racist dems. They became republicans. Very few deny this.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 6, 2013 - 09:56pm PT
does any of that NEGATE what Bluey posted? Exactly?


well? Im curious..




ok ferget it then. Its OT here anyhow.



Dont u have a thread for this?


monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 6, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
The repubs did not lead the civil rights movement of the 60's, the dems did.

Er, like Duh.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 6, 2013 - 10:01pm PT
Mono,, u wurd twister,, Blueys Test says who passed the Civil Rights Bills of the 50s and 60s.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 6, 2013 - 10:02pm PT
Johnson and the dems pushed civil rights bills of the 60's, with much obstructionism from the repubs. Kennedy had to send in the troops to enforce some equality in the Republican south.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 6, 2013 - 10:06pm PT
tapdancin man.. I specified a question. Youve skeewirmed around it for some three or four posts.


I got to watch the watts riots burn as my brohter was trapped in an induction center right downtown waiting to Ship out to basic trng. Saw my Dad head out the door jacking a round into his 3006 to join the neighbors when a group of potential nare do wells showed up. They left.
thats some of my 60s memories.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 6, 2013 - 10:08pm PT
LOL, everything has to be answered exactly as you demand.

You tell us how the Repubs led civil rights in the 60's, while the Dems hindered progress.

The 50's is a mixed bag, since Eisenhower also sent in troops to enforce integration, which the northern dems supported and the southern dems opposed (then became republican, ie, Strom Thurmond).
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 6, 2013 - 10:33pm PT
My Sister burned one of her bras, and she was a republican,, does that count?
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 7, 2013 - 10:50am PT
Ike was the last honest Republican president.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 7, 2013 - 11:13am PT
Perhaps Gary..



Nevadas Governor just signed a law into the books giving illegal aliens 'drivers cards". Why they get special "cards" instead of the STANDARD drivers licenses are beyond me. Can you imagine any other country doing this for those there ILLEGALLY? So with this new law we will have even more illegals coming to the state as it is seen as "friendly" to illegals. And with those illegals shall be the gang types, the cartel players. They too come here illegally of course.

Not only does the governor fail to realize he , being a republican is simply making more "undocumented democrats", and is helping to seal NVs fate for future voting, but increasing the amount of gang members and cartel members here in this state.

There has already been a significant cultural change here in Carson City. "Little TJ" as it is called now is a whole subdivision in e carson. You can, at any time, find local sheriffs deputies patrolling the area and break ins and other crimes are now common place there. There is now a population of over 1000 gang members in the area as well. Multiple marijuana plantations were seized last year put in very near popular hiking trails. Now we have helos flying circuits checking the front range and surrounding areas for illegal activities by these cartel fingers now, yet another cultural difference for the worse here now. Even property values have sunken in areas around carson, that may never really recover.

Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
Ron, that's because the capitalists, who own the politicians you support, need a cheap supply of labor.

The Republicans get to have it both ways. They use illegals to drive down American wages, increase the profits of their Wall Street bosses, and at the same time demonize the illegals to scare whitey into voting Republican.

Brilliant strategy for them, too bad about America, though.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
You hate what's happening in NV, you should move or do something to change what you feel is wrong.

It's easy to do, but I can't think of a more backwater state to live in. Maybe Kansas?

Sh#t or get off the pot dude.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 7, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
On much of this i agree Gary,, with exception of the fact, and a LOUD one at that, that it is both partys implicated in this same strategy, as the dems know that most illegals, and immigrants shall vote their party.. Interests lie in each corner.



But you do mention a very hurtful fact that JOBS are being taken by those here illegally. Driving up un employment by citizens here.

Ive looked frequently for part time work here in some areas a can still function in, but by in large they hire illegals for entry level work in landscaping, plumbing and sprinkler installs, livestock, irrigation, and many other avenues of retail and service. There was a private tree planting contract flown a while back, and even that area of which im highly qualified was filled with immigrants -illegal and otherwise. So Yes your correct there, in that greedy business men are as much to blame as our politicians. This will only get worse as laws are created to make it easier to be an illegal here in the USA.



edit: Did you say something Brandon?
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:40pm PT

But you do mention a very hurtful fact that JOBS are being taken by those here illegally

Ron, an illegal Mexican has NEVER taken a job away from an American. It was GIVEN to him.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 7, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
Granted..;-)

A reno businessman Luther Mack was fined over a million for using nearly ALL illegals to staff his McDonalds franchises. He still came out way ahead.

But i DID ask the governor why he has literally encouraged this all. Ive asked him what Business lobbys have hit him the hardest for this. Ive given him many a hard question actually. No answers as of yet.. Seems citizens of the state for 49 years dont get as quick a response as illegals.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:48pm PT

You hate what's happening in NV, you should move or do something to change what you feel is wrong.

It's easy to do, but I can't think of a more backwater state to live in. Maybe Kansas?

Sh#t or get off the pot dude.

Sorry Ron, this is what I said. My apologies if you missed it. Does it make sense to you? I'm not being mean, just using common sense.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 7, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
Well surprise surprise MANY OF THEM Do.. MANY of them were collecting un employment in Vegas last year too. ALL illegally, to the tune of 4.5 million dollars worth of embezzlemnt from the state funds. "white collar crimes" if you will. Involving over a thousand accomplices...



edit: Brandon,, i HAVE been doing things to combat the problem. And i will continue to do so. It is NOT my "mo" to run from my homelands when confronted with problems. But your "backwater" comment tells me your a bit "racist" in yur own right. Nevada has been the birth place of MANY many famous folks from Eva Betrand/Adams to Andre Aggasi to "Wovoka" the famous Shamman.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
Ron,

do you really not know that you have to be a US citizen to vote?

also:

do you really not know that an "ilegal immigrant" is not eligible to receive unemployment?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_an_illegal_immigrant_file_for_unemployment


Ron, just stop it

stop making sh!t up in your head, stop LYING
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:57pm PT
Illegal immigrants don't vote.

Ouch, Burn! There goes your idea that all those "illegals" elected Obama.

Mexicans, electing a black man, how much more of this injustice do we have to take!?

4.5 million? Ok, that's about five minutes of wasted water in Vegas.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 7, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
wow.. Im surprised a the lack of knowledge visa-vi embezzlement's here. Kinda surprised you dont know about counterfeit SSN numbers and cards too.

Sheetmen, its a WHOLE underground industry.. Seems the use of long since passed dead folks names are quite popular.

Tell me,, if an illegal works under the table here illegally, then HOW does that illegal collect un employment at the same time while having ZERO work history in the quarters used to calculate un employment?>??


Thousands did just that last year in Vegas. They had nice FAKE ids thats how. The same ones used to register to vote i would imagine,, duh...4.5 million dollars worth actually.


edit: AND, may i add, these debacles arent covered in the news save for a brief report. The on going investigations are kept under lock and key. You have to dig at the various agency sites to find out results now. The reasons behind this are quite obvious.

Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 7, 2013 - 01:11pm PT
Haha, you're calling me racist, Ron?

No idea where you got that. Me calling Nevada a backwater state?

Thanks for the laugh.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 7, 2013 - 01:16pm PT
Where do you get the idea that we don't know anything about embezzling Ron?

You mean like these? I know none of them are Mexican, so these guys can't be quite as guilty....


Perpetrator, Amnt., 2010$, Victim, Organization, Discovered
Yasuyoshi Kato $132 million ($90M) Day-Lee Foods, Inc. 1997
Gilbert Beesemyer $100 million ($7.7M) Guaranty B&L Assoc. 1930
Ricardo Carrasco $88.3 million ($66M) BankBoston 1998
John F. Doorly $70.5 million ($58.2M) Tenens Corp/Ayer estate 2006
Ausaf Siddiqui $69 million ($65.6M) Fry’s Electronics 2008
L. Ben Lewis $64 million ($21.3M) Wells Fargo Bank 1981
Melissa G. King $47.6 million ($42.6M) Sandhogs’ Union Local 147 2009
William Deloach $49 million ($36.6M) PBS&J Corp. 2005
Sujata Sachdeva $40.9 million ($34.5M) Koss Corp. 2009
Minnie Mangum $35.7 million ($2.9M) Commonwealth B&L Assoc 1955


For a guy that doesn't like to be accused of things, you sure can dish 'em out!
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 7, 2013 - 01:23pm PT
When B-1 Bob Dornan finally got voted out of congress, he claimed it was because of voting fraud, which he said was illegals voting for Loretta Sanchez. A thorough investigation revealed the only fraudulent votes were by Marines!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 7, 2013 - 01:24pm PT
Surivial, i dont know why you have this habit of throwing up these little comparison things here. If you want to start a thread of American embezzlement,, i believe docf has beat you to that in his thread. This thread is about conflicting cultures. Cultures that are harming the fabric of this country.. No IM NOT talking about "Hispanics" but rather the profuse anount of illegals , gang criminals, and cartel members that flow into this counrty unchecked. Im talking about the some 35 KNOWN RADICAL islamic groups here that in NO WAY fit into American society. We HAVE OUR OWN problems and bad ones at that. So why WELCOME everyone elses? Thats like saying yes please, ill have more piss in my wheaties- thank you..



edit:




01-04-2012 11:51 am – World Net Daily
WASHINGTON – A radical jihadist group responsible for nearly 50 attacks on American soil is operating 35 terrorist training camps across the nation, but the U.S. government refuses to include the organization on the State Department’s list of foreign terrorists.

Jamaat ul-Fuqra, known in the U.S. as “Muslims of America,” has purchased or leased hundreds of acres of property – from New York to California – in which the leader, Sheikh Mubarak Gilani, boasts of conducting “the most advanced training courses in Islamic military warfare.”

In a recruitment video captured from Gilani’s “Soldiers of Allah,” he states in English: “We are fighting to destroy the enemy. We are dealing with evil at its roots and its roots are America.”

Though Gilani and his organization is suspected of committing assassinations and firebombings inside the U.S., and is also suspected of the beheading murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, the terrorist camps spread through the country continue to expand in numbers and population.

A documentary called “Homegrown Jihad: Terrorist Training Camps Around the U.S.” provides compelling evidence of how “Muslims of America” operates with impunity inside the U.S. In the video, producers visited some camps, attempted to visit others and interviewed neighbors and local police officials. It also include excerpts of the “Muslims of America” recruitment video.

Get “Homegrown Jihad: Terrorist Training Camps Around the U.S.” and share it with your neighbors, your local police officials and your representatives in Congress.

The recruitment video shows American converts to Islam being instructed in the operation of AK-47 rifles, rocket launchers and machine guns and C4 explosives. It provides instruction in how to kidnap Americans, kill them and how to conduct sabotage and subversive operations.

Jamaat ul-Fuqra’s attacks on American soil range from bombings to murder to plots to blow up U.S. landmarks. A 2006 Department of Justice report states Jamaat ul-Fuqra “has more than 35 suspected communes and more than 3,000 members spread across the United States, all in support of one goal: the purification of Islam through violence.” In 2005, the Department of Homeland Security predicted the group would continue to carry out attacks in the U.S.

“Act like you are his friend. Then kill him,” says Gilani in the recruitment video, explaining how to handle American “infidels.”

Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was attempting to interview Jamaat ul-Fuqra’s leader, Gilani, in 2002 when he was kidnapped and later beheaded. One year later, Iyman Faris, member of both Jamaat ul-Fuqra and al-Qaida, pleaded guilty in federal court to a plot to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge.

Seven of the compounds have been identified as training facilities: Marion, Alabama; Commerce, Georgia; Macon, Georgia; Talihina, Oklahoma; York County, South Carolina; Dover, Tennessee and Red House, Virginia. Other compounds are located in California, Colorado, Texas, Maryland, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Washington, Michigan and West Virginia.

Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 7, 2013 - 01:50pm PT
1) FACTS are not loud or quite, they are just facts.

2) The vast majority of sh#t Rong types are not facts, despite his claims.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 7, 2013 - 03:51pm PT
http://www.upworthy.com/know-anyone-that-thinks-racial-profiling-is-exaggerated-watch-this-and-tell-me-when-your-jaw-drops-2?c=ufb1


It's not racism, it's cultural-ism (sic)!. Clearly black people don't culturally ride mountain bikes so it's not at all racist when all of these people assume he's stealing the bike while the white kid had obviously just lost his lock key! Cultural-ism (sic)!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
Monolith, blacks and hispanics vote Dem simply because they have bought the Democrat Party line.

These people don't even understand that 'their leader' , MLK, was a Repub!

They buy into the rhetoric of party politics and Dems always promise more while delivering much less.

Just look at the unemployment and poverty numbers under Obama. He fuxked them! And they voted for him again because of his cheesy rhetoric, that was just that, empty promises.

His words are bold, but people keep buying his bullsh#t. Wake up! He is f*#king you!

monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
You've been Snoped, Bluering. MLK jr was not a Republican.

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/mlking.asp

A commonly circulated item about Martin Luther King which is not included in this list is the claim that King was a Republican. Such claims are based purely on speculation; King himself never expressed an affiliation with, nor endorsed candidates for, any political party. In response to such claims, his son, Martin Luther King III, said: "It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican."

Now his father, MLK Senior was a Repub, and that's what we've been trying to tell you Bluering. The repubs used to get black support, particularly before 1936.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:45pm PT
Nice! Way to lump "these people" into a group based on being "blacks [or] hispanics" and assume they all share the same ideology based on their race. There has to be a term for that, right?


Oh, and MLK was NOT a Repugnikunt, despite whatever misinformation you my have been fed by your overlards.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:49pm PT
Monolith, what about the rest?

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/DYK-HistoryTest

Weird how you people react to facts. You start back-peddalng into changing the story, like Snopes does.

Kinda like the WikiFacts. Please look back at history. You are wrong.

Dems used blacks. Repubs liberated them, over and over in history. Sorry it doesn't fit your narrative.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
Hahahahahaha.........

Wicked dumb.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 7, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
s NOT a Repugnikunt,





that from a "phd"... ^^^^^impressive this college system these days.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
Bluering, I said the repubs got black support early on, because they were the libs of Lincoln's time.

Study up on the "Southern Strategy" and you'll see why the repubs don't get much black support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

In American politics, the Southern strategy is the Republican Party's strategy of gaining political support or winning elections in the Southern section of the country by appealing to racism against African Americans.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 7, 2013 - 08:54pm PT
BS ive been to Georgia Mono. Aint the picture yur paintin..
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
What am I trying to paint about the south, Anderson?
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 7, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
that all blacks vote dem.. far from it.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:58pm PT
Nope, never said all blacks vote Dem, Anderson. Jeebus, you have reading comprehension issues.

Go back and look at the graphs, idiot.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 7, 2013 - 09:02pm PT
Hey Ron, have you ever been to Mexico? Canada? Central America? South America? Europe? Asia?

Your worldview is confined to the places you've been and what you read.

First hand experience is everything, you should try it.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 7, 2013 - 09:05pm PT
Brandon, i guess youve FORGOTTEN the private email i sent you already eh? Asia, Europe, Mexico- yes ive been there.


edit: If your going to be so judgemntal of me around here at LEAST include the facts youve been given mmmk?';-)
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 7, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
hahaaaa! yes, ron demands FACTS. hahahaaaaaa!
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 7, 2013 - 10:03pm PT
bluering said
Monolith, blacks and hispanics vote Dem simply because they have bought the Democrat Party line.


Right because decades of actually standing up for civil rights, electing people of color and addressing issues that affect the underprivileged all boils down to good sloganeering. Republicans systematically disenfranchising people of color from the political process was just "bad messaging" I guess.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 9, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
I'd love to be around when you say that to their face - which I doubt even you would be stupid enough to actually do.

I do it all the time. Even at work when the Mexicans I work with call Romney a "rich white guy who hates Mexicans".

It's untrue, but people buy it.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 9, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
What blows me away is that people think Repubs, or more precisely, conservatives, hate "minorities" (blacks, hispanics).

I now have a really nice woman on this site who is uber-pissed at me for passed statements about Mexicans. I do stand by the words I spoke. It had to be taken in context of what Mexican students did to the American flag.

But I digress. Conservatives love immigrants, as long as they work and don't piss on our country.

We also would like to see the black community take responsibility for themselves and their families. The main thing IMO with the black "community" is the break-down of the family.

Get it together!


Suuuure you do pal


Dude, I have nothing to prove to you. You are insignificant.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 9, 2013 - 01:11pm PT
They know who's actually for them, and who's against them.

They think they do. You obviously missed my point. Stupid is as stupid votes.

Keep shooting yourself in the foot, or impoverishing yourselves.
Ron Anderson

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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 9, 2013 - 01:31pm PT
With the amnesties planned, America will get a few million new citizens. many of which will require some sort of financial assistance. The unemployment figures will also go up. The over all burden on welfare programs and healthcare agencies shall also rise within a year.

And if we give amnesties to the millions here now, there will be another million or three within a short time wishing to do the very same. So how many millions can we add to the country that struggles NOW with putting its citizens to work? We HAVE immigration standards and quotas designed to make immigration feasible for BOTH the country and immigrants yet now seek to circumvent that with some "mass" movement. How does that fir into the quotas and immigration systems? It doesnt.

Look locally and youll see the effects. youll see the free or low income clinincs not accepting new customers because they are to capacity of patients. Mostly illegals and undocumented people.

Here in NV the REBUBLICAN gov just signed a new law allowing ILLEGALS to get "drivers cards" so that they may purchase insurance and drive legally while being here illegally. The requirements are less than the standard drivers tests im told. So now we have developed a whole new "culture" of those here that require less for the same benefits as the rest of the citizenry.

A three generation here- Mexican family i know went through hard and difficult paths to gain their citizenship here. They learned what is a very difficult language because it is what is spoken here by "standards". They got their drivers licenses the same way any one born here does. That is the way the WANTED it. That family came to America to enjoy ITS culture, and opportunities. Not to change the culture to what they were used to back in Nuevo Laredo..

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 9, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
Bluey you may notice some here are so full of shite,, so little time..


NH has the highest average income. Nevada a blue state is the worst economy in the nation. And CA has the highest debt of any state.






At $617.6 billion, California had by far the biggest total debt, more than twice the total of No. 2, New York, with $300.1 billion owed, according to State Budget Solutions, a research and non-partisan advocacy group.


Not to mention major cities now filing for bankruptcy..



Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 9, 2013 - 01:59pm PT
CA = the best state in the union

:)
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 9, 2013 - 02:02pm PT
and why do you live here? In NV? Why do SO many californians move HERE from there? Why do they move to AZ and Texas and Colo so frequently these days?
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 9, 2013 - 02:05pm PT
Rong!

Hahahaha...

So very easy.

Keep on trolling yourself, dude!

Survey says.... Racists!

Yet the pain train keeps on a rollin'...

Lord knows, this is what ST needs!

See ya later, gator ;).
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 9, 2013 - 02:10pm PT
dont duck a real question. WHY do so many now flock OUT of CA?

Heres the #1 reason why: They can enjoy a better standard of living here in the freedom of our vast open state. They can buy a very nice place on acreage here for what they pay for a studio apt in SF. And they wish to raise kids in a different environment. They sell out there, and can pay cash for a place here and afford a decrease in pay at the same time. They come for a Nevada culture.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 9, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
Rong!

Whoops! That just slipped out.

Clearly, CA is massively understaffed. You've hit it right on the head. Jebus Crackers, dude.... *facepalm*
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 9, 2013 - 02:17pm PT
He didn't hear the answer he wanted, so clearly it wasn't "answered". Just start putting quotes around words like "answers", "facts", "truth", and "sources" and the world of Rong finally starts making sense ;).
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 9, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
what on gods green earth would make schmoe hedge think i was asking HIM a question..?? I would sooner converse with a conk. Or a herpes blister.
Psilocyborg

climber
Jun 9, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
I dont care if you are rep or dem, black white gay straight, there are many poor people of every walk of life who use and abuse public assistance. There are also many rich people of every walk of life who use and abuse the system.

I personally know people at both ends of the spectrum that are these users and abusers.

Us hardworking americans in the middle are being f*#ked at both ends. That is how I see it. It isn't race or cultural, it is as#@&%es and thier numbers are growing at an alarming rate.

Hard working dems and reps should get together about this. It seems to me both sides are manipulated to be pit against themselves they fail to see the root cause. Assholes.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 9, 2013 - 03:15pm PT
Not all of us are blind that that Psi! We COULD have a voice if most re-registered independent overnight. Such an anomaly would surely put washington on its kiester.


In the meantime the unmarked grey blackhawk just went over head on its patrol for today, just another cultural change - much like the dhs hardware on channel 2's tower on McLlelan peak. Gotta watch the jihaders out along the hgwy 50 corridor. And the USFS leos are all searching the Carson front for illegals engaged in grow ops. But at least they will have drivers cards to get there now LMAO!
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 9, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
Ron asked "Racism or Culture"

here are five definition of CULTURE

which one of these is the one this thread by Ron is about?



CULTURE
noun

1.
the quality in a person or society that arises from a concern for what is regarded as excellent in arts, letters, manners, scholarly pursuits, etc.

2.
that which is excellent in the arts, manners, etc.

3.
a particular form or stage of civilization, as that of a certain nation or period: Greek culture.

4.
development or improvement of the mind by education or training.

5.
the behaviors and beliefs characteristic of a particular social, ethnic, or age group: the youth culture; the drug culture.




ny guess is that when Ron talks about CULTURE he is talking about number 5, because his examples are negative, as in close to RACISM in their negative descriptions of behavior

all of the other definitions are actually positive attributes of a particular group of people

I am not making a judgement of any kind, just trying to help with Ron's original question: Are these things being talked about CULTURE or RACISM?

I have always thought that CULTURE was the good and positive things about a group of people, such as their education, love of close families, arts, etc

I have never considered for example that an entire nationality of people is criminal just because that population has some criminals in it, America is not criminal because we have criminals
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 9, 2013 - 04:46pm PT
I too Norton have NEVER considered a race criminal.

Criminals are those that do things that are illegal.


But Culture change can be evident in some areas. Take E carson for instance, and the area that used to be known as New Empire. Thats where i was raised. My folks home was there for nearly 40 years before the first break in occurred in 2001 shortly after my mothers death.

Since then the same place has been broken into an additional 12 times now.
The area has been going through a transformation of a formerly rural area to a cheap rental hood, where crime reports are weekly, if not daily. That is a cultural change . Now im sorry if that sounds racist but it is simply the facts. Lompa lane used to have green trees, pines, yards, birds of all manner along its straight section and now has nearly nothing green or growing, and the list of breakins runs from one end to the other. Out of the many i knew in that area, none remain today. They have all moved out of there being tired of having their residences or cars burglarized.

Who ever owns my folks place should just put a revolving door on it. My Mexican, Asian, African and Indian friends dont want to live there either.

Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 11, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
FACT: has NOTHING to do with culture
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