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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:18pm PT
First and foremost, when i looked at the post, i thought,, cool- a pooch having fun in the snow. No i didnt think a BLACK dog in front of the whitehouse meant ANYTHING whatsoever, and my favorite dogs are BLACK LABS.

But when you see Obama do you think BLACK PRESIDENT? Nobody accused you of being biased in regards to the color of a dog's coat.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:20pm PT
Sigh - it really isn't a matter of what you'll 'accept'. Dude, you seriously need to move somewhere whitey'er, you know like northern New Hampshire.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:25pm PT
Inept compared to Snatch or Romney? hahahahaaaaa... Ron, I hope we never meet... I enjoy the mental picture I have of you as a good ol' desert rat who just says stuff to get people riled up but has way too much experience to honestly believe that crap.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:36pm PT
inept

 1. without skill or aptitude for a particular task or assignment; maladroit: He is inept at mechanical tasks. She is inept at dealing with people.
2. generally awkward or clumsy; haplessly incompetent.
3. inappropriate; unsuitable; out of place.
4. absurd or foolish: an inept remark.

 tell me this isn't your view of all non-white folks.

If you were at all critical you'd know that this president is magnitudes more equipped for the job than anyone in the buche administration.

It takes a real troll to post up this thread.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result.

Kinda like when all them dirty wops piled into New York. Or the polacks and krauts dirtying up Chicago. Yup, those disgusting subhumans sure did wreck every place they invaded, didn't they?

They brought their criminal gangs with them, and filled the headlines with murders. And not only that, they smelled bad, ate weird food, crowded into rundown tenements...

Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:45pm PT
ghost tactfully omitted the Irish, the English, the bohunks, the Jews, the...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:47pm PT
Why else do you think the bay area has a NIGHTLY tally of killings.???

uh, cuz its a highly populated area in the US, where guns are easier to come by than food stamps?

Why do YOU think complete areas in carson are now known as the local barrios?

Because barrio is Spanish for neighborhood?

Don't get me wrong... I enjoy interacting with you. I just prefer to believe your perspective is broader than you let on.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:48pm PT

"ghost tactfully omitted the Irish, the English, the bohunks, the Jews, the..."...

As well as CANADIANS...

A people unlike ours here in the grand US of A...





EDITED:

This is a funny:



"Why do YOU think complete areas in carson are now known as the local barrios?

Because barrio is Spanish for neighborhood?
...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:49pm PT
Don't forget those damn injuns...
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:50pm PT
When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result.

I am sure that many a Chippewa, Sioux, Navajo, and the multitudes of other neighborhood tribes would agree with that!




climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:54pm PT
Poverty and the culture surrounding it seems to have many of the same traits throughout human experience regardless of race geographic location.

Overcrowded and low quality housing. Substance abuse, depression, low sanitation. High levels of violent crime. high pregnancy rates.

You can find these slum environments in every nation on earth and among ALL races.

this is just observational fact. Why it is so and how to help is among the deepest of issues to contemplate.

Racist sentiment is something else entirely. It seems to be a deeply embedded genetic predilection. One that can be reinforced or overcome depending on the individual. Something to do with the tribalistic nature of humanity. It also is found in every race and geography on earth. But it is also found among every socio economic strata of every society on earth.

It is a sickening trait in a modern society. It is common and I enjoy stomping on it every chance I get.

I have never called or considered Ron Racist however.

I do suspect TGT is.

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:54pm PT
If you get over stressing the PC crap, Ron has a point. Here in VT we have a culture problem as well that comes from the cities south of us. We get the drug gangs from Albany NY , Springfield MA and Hartford CT. They come to VT and try to live the same way here that they lived in the city. It's turning some of our small citys and towns into shitholes. Don't know what the right answers or solutions Are. I do know that there is no need to bring that crap to such a beautifull and peacefull place.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:57pm PT
Often decent parents will move with their children to do their best to get them away from the gang sh!t...

Problem is, many of the kids they're taking with them are in those gangs and thus the problems occur...

I watched it happen in the Lancaster/Palmdale area (a bedroom community to LA) some years back...

Now that area is over run with drug issues and gangs...




EDITED:

Southern Florida is another perfect example...


mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:59pm PT
Ron isn't talking about "the drug gangs" he is talking about "the Mexicans" and "the Blacks." There is a big difference. He almost acknowledges the difference with his trite "I have MANY Mexican friends" comments, but continues to lump based on race rather than economic status, social mobility, income, etc. What is the definition of racism again?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:10pm PT

Well...

I obviously MISSED the landing zone...

LOL!!!...

QITNL

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:11pm PT
Credit: QITNL
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:25pm PT
Here's a tale of two cities - Seattle and San Bernardino.

San Bernardino has had twice as many murders this year than Seattle, yet Seattle has three times the population as San Bernardino.

What would explain that huge difference, besides demographics?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:27pm PT


Better aim...
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:29pm PT
I guess it's easier to work in some range time down here, where we see 300+ sunny days a year.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:33pm PT

Exactly!!!...

LOL!!!...

dirtbag

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
Same ol story.

Every generation, there is a new group of immigrants to bash.

It's a theme that is as American as apple pie.

locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:43pm PT


Somebody is back deleting...

The thread is shrinking...



dirtbag

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:45pm PT
Irish and Italian immigrants, back in the day, were heavily involved in gang activity of their own.

Is something wrong with their culture?

American settlers killed, raped, pillaged, and wrongfully imprisoned Native Americans by the tens of thousands.

Millions of Africans were enslaved by Americans.

Is something wrong with American culture?

Wanna keep playing ? We can do this all day long.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:51pm PT
we all dump into that thin blue/white stripe that sits just above the sea/land horizon...


probably isn't racist... since we all do it, maybe specie-ist
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:54pm PT
It has nothing to do with "the Mexicans."

Estimated median household income in 2009:
San Bernardino:
$35,978

Seattle:
$60,843

California:
$58,931
Estimated per capita income in 2009: $14,804

Washington:
$56,548
Estimated per capita income in 2009: $40,743

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Seattle-Washington.html#ixzz2EaeUbuOa
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:56pm PT

Disliking an idividual makes sense...

Disliking an entire race, does not...

At least, not to me...

moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:11pm PT
I am planing to move to Nevada and you and I will be neighbors. I am Polish. Our culture is different than yours, i.e. we don't have the right to keep and bear arms. Please don't shoot me.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:20pm PT
Ron is troll

Everything I read from this guy screams of "we're better then they are". He makes it a point to mention that he is ___% native american, well isn't that something special? Does that give him cause for the claim that anyone wanting to come to this country after him and his family is wrong, out of bounds or over the line?


Bunch of shite, troll if you must.
To be homiest (honest) this is no better than some dumb-ass named LEB used to spew

Troll, pure troll


Wait….Ron… are you bluerag in disguise? You seem to have a very similar view of the world?
dirtbag

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:20pm PT

The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES. Primarily considered behind the times, with lawlessness as a norm, and societal practices that are deemed un acceptable in most any other countries.


Again Ron--what makes us so fukking great? Our culture has the blood on our hands, too--by the millions.

So learn some history and get over your smugness.

Edit: yeah, what Jingy just said, too.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:22pm PT
The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES.

Wow... just wow...

Name me another first world country that allows such a flood of illegals in..?

I've heard similar complaints about "rag heads" from ignorant Brits.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:37pm PT
Tell me there is no difference in a young 18 year old that grew up in suburban Redding, and one who grew up seeing be -headings, bodies littering streets and the like. That is a cultural difference. Thats WHY the Bay area has nightly tallies of dead. Thats also partially why gun sales are at all time highs. Their cultures are now changing ours.. THAT should be obvious to a blind man.

 I'll tell you there is a difference between what you have written and reality. In other words, you mention a kid growing up in Redding, and a kid growing up seeing beheadings and bodies littering streets…Then you mention the bay area and its crime rate as nightly.

Are you saying that crime is always committed by those nasty immigrants in their 400,000 person gangs?

You're are so full of shite I can smell it. And that is the only thing that should be obvious to a blind man.

Blue, you should be ashamed, but then again, this is kind of par for you.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
Culture:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby%27s_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_city_bombing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unibomber

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Eagan_Holmes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre


At least "the Mexicans" are killing people who cross them and not shooting 10's to 1000's of innocent people. Are you all about old school justice anyway... beating people up for retrobolting, etc? Or are you the kind of culturally refined white Uhmerkun who prefers to shoot up an office building or theater when you get upset?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:46pm PT


"At least "the Mexicans" are killing people who cross them and not shooting 10's to 1000's of innocent people."...

AMEN!!!...

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:51pm PT
I do suspect TGT is.

My black in laws might disagree.


But then your fellow "progressives" believe that "Chicago" is a racist code word.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:57pm PT
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:08pm PT
bull sheet, i watch it almost every night..I posted a weeks tally on the old thread once. impressive it was.

 Facts, to you, are things that other whites tell you in the parking lot of the local quick-stop in Nevada.

You say you watch it nightly… from Nevada?

Here you're ini Bay Area:
n the Bay area, the nightly news rarely fails to mention the latest shootings, drive bys, and dead bodies found from this exact same CULTURAL influence.

Here you're in Carson area:
In Carson city, it has been quite evident over the past ten years of the areas where most of the illegals, gangs, and other undocumented people now live. Complete sections of town - and for the most, the landscape, trees -lawns and plants are killed off to make room for multiple cars from multiple familys in one residence.


 Either you're full of shite (as I have stated) or you are clearly an omnipotent god type who can be everywhere are once.


Total troll.

I'm Done
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:16pm PT
What time is the Nightly Channel 21 Death Tally?

They are of all colors, but mostly illegal.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:21pm PT


Thank fuking GUD Sambo's got closed down...

Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:22pm PT
Sambo's closed down?
QITNL

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:22pm PT
Ron Anderson Friendraiser...

May I have your attention please:

If Ron Anderson has any friends on this forum, could you please contact Ron Anderson immediately and tell him to step away from the computer, go outside and enjoy the afternoon, crack a Bud and watch some NFL, eat a burrito... ANYTHING will do ... or simply tell him to STFU NOW!!!

This has been a public service announcement sponsored by Save Ron Anderson. We will now return to our regular programming. Thank you.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:31pm PT
Here are some Cultural Facts...and some pc spin...


http://www.sambosrestaurant.com/

And then there was one, The Original Sambo's Restaurant.

The Original Sambo’s Restaurant is still family owned and operated by Chad Stevens,
the grandson of the Founder of Sambo's Restaurant, along with his wife Michelle. They invite you to stop in and say hello.

Over the years many myths and rumors abound about the "SAMBO'S" name -
its origin seemingly subject to many ideas as to how the restaurant got its name.

The fact is - SAM (the Founder) was a real person and BO (his partner) was a real person.

Sam is Sam Battistone and Bo is Newell Bohnett, known affectionately to his friends, family and associates as "Bo".
Despite all the other stories you may have heard - this is really how SAMBO'S got its name.
'The Story of Little Black Sambo' by Helen Bannerman was an afterthought. The SAMBO'S RESTAURANT
already was established before the children's story was discovered and used as part of a marketing promotion.

Sam actually had another restaurant on State St. in Santa Barbara called "Sammy's" when the original (and present)
property location (216 W. Cabrillo Blvd) became available.

From 1957 until around 1978, Sambo's was a growing part of the American landscape. For a number of reasons Sambo's
began to slow down and its transition from an innovative coffee cafe in Santa Barbara to a multi-million dollar corporation
began to take its toll - In August 1981 there were 1,117 restaurants in 47 states.

Some restaurants in the Northeastern part of the U.S. tried a new name - ' No Place Like Sam's ' in an attempt to reverse
a four-year tailspin. Sadly, in 1982 all but the original Sambo's in Santa Barbara closed their doors.

In 2012 The ORIGINAL Sambo's Restaurant will celebrate 55 years in business, on the beach !!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:33pm PT
Norton, I have some white friends too. They are good people. My white neighbors are out playing baskeetball with their kids... whooping and hollerin' like lunatics. I don't talk to them cuz they have a half-pipe and we ALL KNOW about sk8er culture.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:37pm PT


"Sadly, in 1982 all but the original Sambo's in Santa Barbara closed their doors"...

That's interesting...

I thought they had all closed...

locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:38pm PT


"Norton,, we dont have 400,000 KNOWN WHITE gang members"...

We have even MORE than that...

Republicans...

LOL!!!...

Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:56pm PT
Nose?
DanaB

climber
CT
Dec 9, 2012 - 06:09pm PT
**Kinda like when all them dirty wops piled into New York. Or the polacks and krauts dirtying up Chicago. Yup, those disgusting subhumans sure did wreck every place they invaded, didn't they?

They brought their criminal gangs with them, and filled the headlines with murders. And not only that, they smelled bad, ate weird food, crowded into rundown tenements...**

Yes, but all of that is nothing compared to the destruction that white protestants have visited on our society.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 10, 2012 - 04:27pm PT
Tuba thefts are up.

"...the thefts are motivated by the growing popularity of banda, a traditional Mexican music form in which tubas play a dominant role."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/education/tuba-thefts-plague-california-schools.html?_r=0

I remember when Country Music became real popular. Nobody noted an abundance of banjos being ripped off then.

Demographic differences at work.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 10, 2012 - 04:44pm PT
Hahaha... sk8ers are a subculture in the US, but gang bangers and drug dealers define third world culture. And you wonder why people call you a racist?
dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Dec 10, 2012 - 05:34pm PT
No TGT, they will say your Black in-laws have been brainwashed and must not know who you really are. Because some minorities must be brainwashed if they don't understand that they are a victim of a white society.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Dec 10, 2012 - 05:44pm PT
it does not give Ron any comfort that because the Poles and Irish stank up the place in 1880, other groups have every right to do it NOW

Nope. And I wasn't implying that it should, or at least not in the short term. Just trying to point out that this is not a new problem. It's the same old problem but its hitting Ron in Carson City now, instead of your grandfather in Chicago in 1930.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 10, 2012 - 05:50pm PT
You stand corrected...

There are many "white trash" places here in Nevada as well and yes - that is also a cultural problem. Culture being predominantly METH.

The third world countries are labeled that due to their CULTURES. Primarily considered behind the times, with lawlessness as a norm, and societal practices that are deemed un acceptable in most any other countries.

So you can expect that those cultures will come with the people.
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Dec 10, 2012 - 06:54pm PT
When we invite throngs from third world countries, many of those habits come with them. The degradation of many a neighborhood has been the result. They begin to take on the look and feel of those third world areas from whence they came. And being illegals and un documented people, they tend to flock amongst those of the like nature. And then comes "ghettos" and slums if you will for a lack of a better wording while property values fall..

Yep, in the 19th century the whole friggin' city of New York was blighted with an Irish Catholic ghetto just like the one you describe above. That's why the Irish hate African Americans so much: they fought it out with them at the bottom in Boston and New York in the 19th century for the underclass jobs. The animosity has never gone away. Remember William Bonny (aka 'Billy the Kid')? He left Hell's Kitchen in New York, the largest Irish ghetto in the US, and moved out to Tombstone in New Mexico Territory. "Killed 21 (white) men for his 21 years, not counting N_ggas, Indians and Mexicans".

My point? It's been that way in the USA a long, long time. After maybe three generations, when they finally get into the middle classes and the professions, then THEY become WHITE like everyone else. A toughening process to be sure. Why did the Italians start the Mafia? Because everyone discriminated against them so they created their own protection organization.

But doesn't CVS today seem like it's a store in northern Mexico? Something about the service level and the variety of product choices. Makes you think the new global economy is spelled: POVERTY.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 10, 2012 - 07:26pm PT
It is only spelled POVERTY for 47% of Uhmerikuhns and 99% of the global population. For the rest it is spelled GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED FREE MARKET CAPITALISM.
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Dec 10, 2012 - 07:37pm PT
Culture? I think that it's all about income. Poor people have sh#t lives and do sh#t stuff. Have three jobs? Then no time to worry about where you throw your trash or how many fish you have.

People bring their income with them but when people start to make less, they too move to cheaper places. Where? The crap part of town of course.

Since it has all to do with income and nothing to do with native culture, I would say that you are income-ist.

But really, you have to be prejudice to be an -ist. Racist, sexist, culture-ist, whatever. You need to learn of a persons race, sex, culture, etc., and then make a judgement about them without knowing any other information. Are you that? Do you hate them because of where they came from regardless of how they act or do you see how they act and then hate them for that?

Dave
damo62

Social climber
Brisbane
Dec 10, 2012 - 07:43pm PT
R A, do you really think climbing is a culture?

"That's why the Irish hate African Americans so much"-----wow, can you back that one up? If not then back off!

"Why did the Italians start the Mafia? Because everyone discriminated against them so they created their own protection organization."-------get a clue, read a little.
Psilocyborg

climber
Dec 10, 2012 - 07:50pm PT
You are a first rate moron if you don't realize people manipulate your own white guilt.

Xenophobia is a HUMAN trait. It doesn't belong to anyone, it belongs to all of us. We will never over come it. As we try to overcome it, here come the ass f*#ks that will manipulate, lie, cheat, and steal. These are HUMAN traits. Black white brown red we are all xenophobic, we are all lazy, evil, good, loving, hating, jealous ect ect ect
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:41am PT
They are not MEN.

We tried to tell you.



DMT
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:43am PT
ron,

i think if you were driving down the road and saw that, then you might just want to be real neighborly...help them out. get out the old bull whip and flog the crap out of them. tell them there is no need for thanks.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:46am PT
Call it what you like but the unrelenting republican opposition to "anything Obama" is fueled by thinly veiled racisim.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:18am PT
Change might be good. What race in the history of the world has f*#ked up the planet more, and killed more people than whitey?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:43am PT
Gee you're right Ron, that's scary.

It would be much better if our kids would just hang out with nice, white, American boys and learned only of the ways of Jesus.









squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:50am PT
Another funny thing,, the schools here have gone away from ANY religious aspects concerning christians

Oh really? So the Dino museum opening up and the christian science classes of the south do not exist in your world? Science illiteracy in the white christian fundamentalist communities is at an all time high, and here you are whining about brown people and their culture?

Now for those of you mentioning ancient history such as slavery, i should inform you we have a partially black man in the whitehouse as President

Ancient history? Ancient history? Do you have any sort of education at all? Slavery, race discrimination and even gender bias are things this country deals with every day, from a judge selling children to a prison for profit to human trafficking, racial violence from skin heads and nazis, the republican party still attacking working women in the major media saying females are damaging our children by having a career...

Ancient history my ass dude, it's right here and now if people like you had their way..
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:52am PT
The Nazi party pales in comparison to Ashura?

You better do some reading Ron.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:00pm PT
LOOK around the globe dude.. ISLAM is causing more deaths that ANYONE/THING on the planet now.


Wrong. Nothing has ever been more deadly than white guys and christianity.

109,032 deaths including 66,081 civilian deaths.

These are just Iraq, and only the numbers attributed to the American military. Muslims haven't done that anywhere recently Ron. Get a f*#king clue.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
If you feel compelled to start a thread about how you're NOT a racist...
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
yeah Islam is the bad guy, Christians have never killed, they are perfect...and the white ones are even better because their culture is better...

I do love the defense of skinheads and nazis while saying you are not defending them...

Not only are you a hypocrite within your own posts but you are so ignorant that you are completely blind to how you appear to your audience...If you had any kind of cultural exposure you would feel pretty shitty about yourself right now...

I'm kinda upset people like you live in my state still...
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
Things that are causing more deaths than Islam:

Western Military weapons
Alcohol
Cigarettes
Cars
(all of these could be in the First World Problems thread)

survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:07pm PT
How about Malaria?

Malaria kills one child every 30 seconds, about 3000 children every day.
Over one million people die from malaria each
year, mostly children under five years of age,
with 90 per cent of malaria case
s occurring in Sub-Saharan Africa.


Why aren't you yelling about Malaria in Africa?
ncrockclimber

climber
The Desert Oven
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
Things that are causing more deaths than Islam:

Western Military weapons
Alcohol
Cigarettes
Cars

These are issues. This thread is all about Ron wanting another venue to vent his bigotry.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:20pm PT
Call it what you like but the unrelenting republican opposition to "anything Obama" is fueled by thinly veiled racisim.

true that
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:24pm PT

And its MY state.


You weren't even born here like I was. Get out of MY state, lol!

You remind me of Nixon: I'm not a crook.

Of course, he was.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:26pm PT
The thought of obama NEVER entered my mind

I believe he was speaking in general
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
But Ron's never wrong, Kenny. I don't trust anybody who is never wrong, it's not a trait of human beings.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
You bring the state of NV down as a spokesperson. Me and my family work in healthcare, as mechanics, for the press, serving in the military here in Nevada. Get out, punk!

Mostly joshing you, but your thinly veiled racism is apparent to many here now. But you keep on slogging on: I am not a racist!

You ever wonder why you have to keep saying that?

edit: I got ya, Ron. Between you and I, you have brought down NV a LOT more than I have. Are we going to ask whose dad can beat up the other while we're making childish comparisons? You seem to think only some people are worthy based on whatever criteria you choose. Sort of a segregation of who is American or who isn't. Can't see why people keep calling you out.... geeze, wonder why.

No, Ron, people who say ignorant, racist things are called racists. Reflexively discriminating against somebody else's culture IS racism. So don't be surprised if you in particular are called a racist.
QITNL

climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:41pm PT
Edit: Photo of Banner Peak removed. It seems to have served its purpose. Besides, I'm not giving away my hi-res shots, they are far more valuable than anything on this thread.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
^^^Mom and dad fought in front of him.

edit: QITNL your high res photo was too damn big to appreciate on the small screen!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
Hmmmm, a guy who thinks spanking oneself in Georgia is more important than thousands of children dying every day from Malaria, hmmmm...

Is that what I'm getting here Ron?


CAN YOU AT LEAST ADMIT THAT YOUR COMMENT ABOUT ISLAM KILLING MORE THAN ANYTHING TODAY IS WRONG?

And you swiftly ignored my post about the numbers of Iraqis killed by American bombs. But that doesn't fit your world view, I get it.


Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
I wasn't talking to you, Ron. I was talking about QITNL passive aggressively blowing out the sidewalls cuz it couldn't handle the topic. Settle down, tough guy.

Apology please? I'll ask that of you nicely. Once.

LOL. Too many Eastwood films for SOMEbody.
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
Ron's parents obviously beat him up, fought in front of him and they were fat...they taught him to question everything, including facts. He has grown to be a valued member and proud representative of this fine country all because of Ron's parents and their self sacrifice and sound logic expertly applied to child rearing.

What aids him the most is under exposure and isolation from the very cultures he fears and demonizes. He must also carry a gun in case anyone overhears his mouth in public and decides to introduce education to his face by means of a fist...
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
Sunni Muslim terrorists committed “about 70 percent” of the 12,533 terrorist murders in the world last year, according to a report by the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC)

Once again I will patiently introduce you to some math Ron.

12,500 is less than one million malaria deaths annually.

12,500 is less than 109,000 Iraqis dead by American military.

But it's not important to you, so what's the point? It's only important to kill Muslims and make plenty of enemies to kill in the future.

In that sense we're doing a marvelous job, so you should be happy, not fearful.
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
What do you expect when a giant troll says "here's my button don't push it"..

If you are going to sit here and feel ok about the things you are saying, then I am going to sit here and feel no remorse about trash talking your family. Your kind is a disease in this country, and you should have never put any emphasis on your family or jumped to conclusions and overreacting defense. The things you say in this thread are just as offensive to me as you may find me talking about your family, get it? oh and your mom is fat...
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jun 5, 2013 - 01:44pm PT
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 01:45pm PT
I said TODAY

TODAY Malaria will kill more children than radical Islam.

TODAY automobiles will kill more people than radical Islam.

TODAY cancer will kill more people than radical Islam.

TODAY respiratory infection will kill more than radical Islam.

TODAY AIDS will kill more than radical Islam.

TODAY cerebrovascular disease will kill more than radical Islam.

TODAY Tuberculosis will kill more than radical Islam.

TODAY Diarrheal diseases will kill more than radical Islam.





Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:11pm PT
WHY GIVE religious preferential treatment to anyone let alone those where over 70% of the worlds terrorists come from?

Because it's America and religious persecution isn't part of the game plan. Move somewhere else if you don't like it. Bad stuff happens and much bad stuff is averted here in the States. Despite your Chicken Little propaganda, that really hasn't changed this being a great place to live.

When people of whatever ideology or culture or race cross the line, they get prosecuted under the law. Simple. Not racist.

Yes, disasters happen. No, those disasters are not a reason to throw out the American way of life, the values of accepting and assimilating the strengths of all human culture, and overall religious freedom. Nope. Move it to Ronghanistan if you don't like it.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
The same group that in no way by strict definition fits into american societal rules regulations and laws..

well...when you say it that way...
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
It's simple to respond to gibberish, Ron ;). The amount of people you sway here is nil. You don't do anybody else the courtesy of looking at their points seriously, why should anybody extend the same to you?

My wager is people will get tired of you saying the same crap, denying the same accusations, pitching the same fits over how ill-treated you are, and you will be run off like Fattrad was before you. You act like a troll, even if you don't know it, and people eventually get fed up with it.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:46pm PT
made up

paranoid

racist fear monger

At least I don't have to author threads about how I'm not a racist.

You've got a lot of good to share, but your same old crappy political troll threads ain't one of 'em. People will get wise and you'll have to preach to another choir.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:52pm PT
Many of them are extremists like those pictured above.

Credit: survival

Credit: survival


Those are christians in case yer wondering bro....
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:52pm PT
What about the Irish Catholics? They came over here after the Potato Famine and lived in rotting slums on the East Coast like Hells Kitchen in New York. Breeding ground of William Bonny (alias Billy the Kid). Always sending their money to the IRA back in the Fatherland to rebel and kill Brits. Their neighborhoods were filled with crime and prostitution and they took orders directly from the Pope in Rome. Should never be allowed to become President or hold elected office because of their divided loyalties. Then along came that Kennedy Clan with a Pro-Nazi father into bootlegging and bought their way into the country club, Harvard and the Washington beltway. Now, Irish walk right down the street in broad daylight and they've taken over the Police force too.

Bet the same thing will happen with the Muslims and the character of the good old USA will be changed forever. No constant but change. Look at what happened to the Roman Empire when they didn't assimilate the Goths due to 'ethic tension' with the native Roman population. The Goths took over.

The Italians, the Portuguese and the Irish used to take orders from the WASPs. Now the Italians, Portuguese, and Irish give orders to the Mexicans. This ugly social democracy melting pot just keeps going and going and going until, as De Tocqueville predicted, there's going to be a huge race war. Just ask Charlie Manson. Better hope the money trees just keep blooming to iron out the social differences.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 5, 2013 - 03:56pm PT


The conflict in northern Ireland between Christians and Christians killed more people than the 9/11 attacks.

The crusades (Christian Terrorism at its worst) killed nearly 10 million people.

Over 10 times more people have been killed in Iraq than were killed in the 9/11 attacks.


BTW, good to see the idiots still suffering from "911 Tourettes" with a new strain of "Boston Marathonitis." Every time they are confronted with facts regarding their bias, their response involves 911 and/or the BM.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
Please support Ronghanistan. A major export product is "facts". They are made up by the thousands daily and will fit any occasion. Even though they are shoddily constructed, they come very cheap by the dozen.

Although Ronghistan is a very beautiful country of sagebrush and trailer park brothels that was once a nuclear test site, tourism is not allowed because the locals hate outsiders and hunting licenses for foreigners are issued quite easily. Not carrying a gun is actually a crime there, so please honor local customs of intolerance.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 04:08pm PT
More christians.

Credit: survival
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
BUT the difference here is none of them BOMBED Boston or were recruited to go kill US soldiers in afghanny, or flew planes into buildings. Unless i missed something..


Well, I guess it's possible that you missed the part where we killed a COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND of their people since 2001.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 5, 2013 - 05:07pm PT
Racism, or cultural-ism?

The U.S. Army staff sergeant accused of slaughtering 16 Afghan civilians in two villages pleaded guilty Wednesday in a move expected to spare him from the death penalty.

And when a military judge asked Robert Bales, 39, why he slaughtered the men, women and children outside Camp Belambay in southern Afghanistan on March 11, 2012, Bales gave his first and only public explanation for the attack.

"Sir, as far as why: I've asked that question a million times since then," said Bales, according to the Associated Press. "There's not a good reason in this world for why I did the horrible things I did."

Bales appeared in military uniform at Joint Base Lewis-McChord outside Seattle, where his military tribunal is being held.

Part of his plea deal with prosecutors involved a requirement that he give an account of the killings and of burning the villagers' bodies before returning to base with bloodstained clothing.

His initial recollection of the slaughter, which was recalled to the court and to the Los Angeles Times in vivid detail by the survivors, poured out in cold legalese.

"I left the VSP [Village Stability Platform at Belambay] and went to the nearby village of Alkozai," Bales told the judge, Col. Jeffery Nance, according to the AP. "While inside a compound in Alkozai, I observed a female I now know to be Na'ikmarga. I formed the intent to kill Na'ikmarga, and I did kill Na'ikmarga by shooting her with a firearm. This act was without legal justification, sir."
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 5, 2013 - 05:09pm PT
Ron, where did I call it a "christian thing" since you put it in quotations, it's supposed to be a QUOTE!!

And no, that wouldn't be silly at all...

Christians were there (M.E.) before Muslims right?
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 5, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
Christians are also participants in Palestinian terrorism, not that you ever hear that part of it.
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
you have the mouff sqush,, so tell me WHO you are and where for that matter.

Ive made my name and location well known. Show me you have some real sackage and not just internet placebo-ballz.

My name is Sean Wendland and I live in Sacramento...and...why are you so interested in my sack? Do you like big ballz on your internet boyfriends?

Maybe there's some "yo mamma so fat" police you could call if your so butthurt..

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 5, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
Another Case of White Christian Racism and Cultural Terrorism:


Now I am not racist, in fact most of my friends are White People, but White People brought with them from Europe their own SECRET racism, and it goes against the laws!

And they brought with them their so called "religion" and their own "culture"

White Christians are at it again:


An Alabama high school student is being fined $1,000 and having her diploma withheld after wearing an eagle feather in her graduation cap on May 23.

Chelsey Ramer, of the Poarch Creek Band of Indians, wore the spiritually and culturally symbolic feather at her Escambia Academy High School graduation ceremony as a display of pride in her heritage, according to local news outlet WPMI-TV. However, a graduation dress code contract stated students were not allowed to wear “extraneous items during graduation exercises unless approved by the administration."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/03/chelsey-ramer-indian-feather-high-school-graduation_n_3380961.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 06:56pm PT
















Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
Hahaha... Squishy wins!!!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 5, 2013 - 07:11pm PT
Personally, not that it matters, I think Ron is racist. I could be wrong, but his writing points directly at that. A thinly veiled cover is just that, thinly veiled. People can see through it.

I live in the backwoods of NH. Think town of 2000 people. There are a lot of racist people where I live. I've quit going to certian social gatherings because there are way too many comments about niggers and how many guns are owned. I'm cool with guns, I own them, but the overtly racist dialogue I hear when people are a little buzzed is really too much for me.

I have zero tolerance for racism, sexism, or homophobia.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 5, 2013 - 07:13pm PT
I hate it when they think you're one of them. Hey, we're all racists here, right?!
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 5, 2013 - 07:34pm PT

I watched a video of Mitt Romney speaking today

I have to say that I was impressed that he was articulate, for a White Person I mean


I thought he was a Credit to his Race
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
Ron may actually believe he is not a racist, he may not realize the things he says are racist. I personally see thinly veiled racism in his words (as do most of this audience) but racism can be a product of misunderstanding as much as it is fueled by hate.

In fact, I will admit to saying very similar things at times, and I too profess to being color blind. I am willing to bet everyone, from any race, has said stupid sh#t before. If that ignorant or stupid thing you said was about racial generalizations or characteristics, then you too are guilty of the same thing. I'm not talking about racist jokes, I love those and I love hearing good ones, but that's when you know it's all in good fun or joking. I am talking about assumptions, mis-judging a book by it's cover and generalizations about people or neighborhoods that really are unneeded. My statements, though technically right or wrong at the time, in retrospect were pretty racist. And I don't think I am a racist, at least I don't want to believe I am and I don't want to be. But I am ignorant about many things and I have no problem admitting that.

Sure, let's all point and laugh, but lets remember why and try steering ourselves in the right direction too. There's nuance to this subject, you may not hate other races or people different than yourself but you may not understand them or understand the nuances of communicating about them or with them. In these cases, I think it's perfectly ok to claim ignorance. Taking responsibility for your ignorance is a much better approach than veiling your understanding and appearing hateful.

Ron has a hard time being wrong, so it's easy to guess that he wishes to appear strong, prideful and as a result hateful or "thinly veiled"...
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 5, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
Ron has a hard time being wrong

on the contrary, I think he find it effortless
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 5, 2013 - 08:44pm PT
Ron, you are referring to a positive story.

When anything negative happens regarding someone who was not born here, but lives here, you're the first to jump on the hate train (broad generalization, but mostly correct). Why?

Sorry to jump on the hate train toward you, but you asked for it in starting this thread.

Also, why do you write very well sometimes, but write like a hick in your writing other times?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
you don't care?
why did you start the post? obviously you care...
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
sub tribe?
if the shoe fits, wear it I guess...
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:08pm PT
Rons views are had by being an ex leo. Ron thinks to himself when he saw that photo in Georgia this am, that they: are certainly extremist islamics,
by the ODDS should most definitely be looked into, and that i would be worried if i came up in that scene as an leo.

There are hundreds being watched here now by FBI and DHS. Thats what i thought coming from being trained to simply spot the obvious. Those that have killed and maimed us here are islamic extremists.. The picture indicates the very same.

Ask your self what a Boston Victim would do driving in the woods into that ? How would they feel?

So i guess your ok with a sect that is against the gays, dogs, and womens rights then? I Then must assume your all sexists 100%...

So you profile people based on appearance in America, as a law enforcement officer and you are afraid of religions that are against gays, dogs and women's rights?

I don't know much about this dog thing, but Christians seem to fit your fear, are you a christian?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
I "look like" a terrorist to many people, Ron...
... you probably haven't experienced that, you're not making a very convincing defense.
Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
Ron,

The practice of penitente, including self-flaggelation has been going on in parts of New Mexico for hundreds of years, even before our nation was founded. I never thought to correlate the practice by those Catholics as terrorism.

Edit. ....now Ed, on the other hand..........
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
Faith should be a somewhat private deal. And shouldn't collide with the rules everyone else must abide by

Oh hey, check it out, progress...

Now..can you see why someone would be upset by being profiled by law enforcement for something that even you believe should be kept private?
squishy

Mountain climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:21pm PT
And then right back two steps...

terrorists bombing this country have all been islamic extremists.

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/topics/anti-immigrant/
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:23pm PT
Atlanta Olympics bombing.

Gotya again.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:46pm PT
Insufficient data, Anderson.

Please provide data indicating the number of terrorist acts in America performed by those who self flagellate.
QITNL

climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:51pm PT
Racism is not tolerated by the moderators of this forum. Plain and simple.

Case in point: when someone started posting racist photos of Michelle Obama, I sent a note to Chris. The individual was banned, his posts were deleted. Chris thanked me - he doesn't read every post on this forum. Rather than bumping the offensive post, bringing it to his attention is the recourse he specifically suggests.

The next time Bluering refers to women as "bitches," I intend to follow the same course. I've given him a warning. If he gets booted, don't complain to me: it's his own fault.

If you think someone has crossed the line, that's what you do about it.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:53pm PT
If he gets booted, don't complain to me
complain? you'll get 100 virgins when you die


EDIT: 1,000
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:04pm PT
Apparently you define a racist as a person who admits to being one

As long as they deny it, they're in the clear?

Flip that over. If YOU declare someone to be racist, does that make it so?

I find most liberal race-baiters to be the most racist, looking at everybody though the prism of their skin color, and treating them accordingly.

The definition of racism. Notice how many lib politicians change their vocal inflections based on the ethnic group they speak to, namely blacks.
Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:07pm PT
so it seems none of you geniuses can correlate a risk factor from the above photo taken in New Mexico. This sort of thing doesnt make you wonder if theres not a future bomber in that pic, knowing the factors involving Catholic extremists

I changed two words in your quote. Hope you get the picture, Ron.....

how many future terrorists in this pic?
how many future terrorists in this pic?
Credit: Timid TopRope
how many future terrorists in this pic?
how many future terrorists in this pic?
Credit: Timid TopRope
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
Joe, how about Hillary, Biden, and Obama?
QITNL

climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:45pm PT
Sorry, jghedge, I don't quite follow you.

I wrote, as you quoted:
"If you think someone has crossed the line, that's what you do about it."

You replied:
"Apparently you define a racist as a person who admits to being one. As long as they deny it, they're in the clear?"

I'm not trying to define a racist. I think everyone is somewhat racist, including myself. I'm just reiterating the specific steps outlined to keep our conversation somewhat pleasant.

The ultimate arbiter of this forum is Chris. He owns it; it's part of his business. I don't think he (or anyone who submits a complaint) is defining anyone as a racist; it's equally irrelevant if this person considers himself racist. It's the hate-speech - not the individual - which is not tolerated.

The question is more like this: is the material submitted appropriate for this audience? When it comes to nudity, Chris has decided and explicitly stated it's not. When it comes to other topics, I'll accept his judgement. In fact, I have to - my only choice is whether I want to post here or not.

I hope it doesn't appear I'm dodging your question, perhaps I don't understand it. And to be honest, I don't really believe in these definitions in general. A climber is only a climber when he's climbing; when he stops he becomes a belayer, or just some bloke like everyone else.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:52pm PT

Where's the references to what you were actually talking about?

Or you think casting aspersions with nothing to back them up will make you look less foolish?


Are you just playing stupid? These were big stories. Maybe just on FOX, I guess.

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:01pm PT
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/14/biden-romneys-wall-street-will-put-yall-back-in-chains/

Biden telling blacks that Repubs want to put them back in chains!

(when they are the ones that ironically freed them from chains, despite Dem disputes)

Here's Hillary invoking 'blackness'; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGDm4jkDbGQ

Dems did more damage to blacks than Repubs historically.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:06pm PT
Ronnie. They are they racists. WE look at Americans, not ethnicity or skin color.

Except you can't link to any of those "big stories", you lying piece of shit


Look up^^^^^. I posted them.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:11pm PT
i dont know why any hispanics would vote republican"

LOL

so what, I don't either

is that somehow a big deal comment, LOL?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:13pm PT
Literally quoting someone's words is "invoking blackness"?


Why?

Why does she have to use a phony black slang, why can't she just quote him?

Answer: She's pandering.

And Biden? No excuse.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:16pm PT
No Bluering
conservatives did the damage
not the name of a Political party that changes with the times

It was the Conservatives then, and now that are the racists
It was the conservatives that went to war with the North to keep their slaves, not the liberals

the liberals then, and now are the ones trying to guarantee equal rights for all


Who freed the slaves, idiot! Who elected the first black member to Congress?

You're a fool.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:23pm PT
Sweet tailspin this thead took.

Blue, you're wrong because the GOP.....nevermind.....not worth it. You've already told me that you dislike most people and won't listen to any point I make.

Good luck in your life of distrust and anger.

And, I'm assuming that when you read this, you'll be completely baffled by my comment. You're right and if you don't agree with 'em, then F 'em, right? No retreat, no surrender!!!!!

Fare well, dude. I wish you the best.



bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:23pm PT

SHE DID, IDIOT!!!!!

SHE LITERALLY QUOTED HIM!!!

DO YOU NEED THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD "LITERALLY" EXPLAINED TO YOU???

Vocal inflection changes. Did you hear me say that? Did you hear her do that?

That was my point! Nice job trying to deflect my point.
manzanita man

Social climber
somerset, ca.
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:27pm PT
there are alot of retards on this post and ron a. is not 1. he is the most level headed dude on this forum. the rest of you scream racism at anything you can. just like jackson and co. even when you are wrong. a bunch of dumb asses. GFYS.


BESIDES WERNER. WE ARE DUMD AMERICANS.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:29pm PT
Yeah, he's so level-headed he forgot Oklahoma City, Atlanta Olympics, and the university bombings were done by white Americans.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:33pm PT
im DEAD against those that come to this country to do it and its people harm, dont care whut the colour is.

What about those that are already here? McVeigh, Kaczynski, Rudolph, etc. Should we drone their asses? Or should we check their religious affiliation and/or race first?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:44pm PT
Well Norton to the republican Hispanics i know yeah i guess thats an insult.

well Ron, I live in THE MOST Hispanic state in the country

and when the Republican candidate for President tells a living room full of Hispanics I was sitting with during the debate that the solution to their grand parents sitting right next to me is to "self deport", as in get up and get your ass out of the country...

well then you dumb ass, you damn right they ain't gonna vote for a Republican

duh
manzanita man

Social climber
somerset, ca.
Jun 6, 2013 - 12:01am PT
any race does crimes. 13% of americans are black yet commit over 50% of all violent crimes. all of you that scream racism at the drop of a hat FU.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 6, 2013 - 12:07am PT
Who freed the slaves, idiot! Who elected the first black member to Congress?

Progressives.

You're a fool.

You're a drunk.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 6, 2013 - 12:16am PT
Hey, Gary, read history again.

What percentage of financial crimes are committed by white people? Are white people therefore more genetically inclined to commit bank fraud and insider trading than black people?

Or does your incapability to see beyond race render your opinions and judgement worthless?

You missed his keyword of "violent" crimes. Of course whitey (and others) commit crimes, but he was stating something more specific.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 6, 2013 - 12:30am PT
Yes, lots of "big stories" there too, no doubt, that support your lies.

Except you can't cite any of them.


Here's a clue: Quit projecting your wingnut gullibility onto reasonably intelligent people. It ain't ever gonna work, except to make YOU look stupider than you already do.


Abe Lincoln freeing the slaves? Supreme Court Nominees, Congressmen who were blacks? Was Martin Luther King a Dem?

Did that come from Republicans or Dixiecrats?

Read you history again.
manzanita man

Social climber
somerset, ca.
Jun 6, 2013 - 12:41am PT
Compare how much money black people stole last year

To how much money white people stole last year


Then explain which race deserves the more legal scrutiny

how about welfaRE, DUMBASS.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 6, 2013 - 12:47am PT
Name a bigger group of welfare recipients than the Waltons. We feed, through food stamps, house, through Section 8, and provide health care to their employees while they rake in billions.
slayton

Trad climber
Here and There
Jun 6, 2013 - 04:41am PT
Ron's not a racist. He just hates anyone, of any color or creed, that doesn't think, live, or keep a clean lawn just like him. Like so many before him throughout the history of this country he sees those flooding these shores as somehow diminishing our "culture".

Ron is a shining example of someone who takes the socially complex issues of economics and immigration and then whittles them down into something simple that he can understand: It's THEM!! They're dirty, they're criminal, they don't try to learn the language or the proper salute to the flag, they're all gangbangers (not true), and they're all illegals (also not true), and that's why I don't want them here. IT'S THEIR CULTURE!!

There is nothing new under the sun with Ron's attitude. This country has an issue with immigration. Why shouldn't we as the most prosperous nation on the face of the earth?

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free." So it says on the Statue of Liberty. I realize that there probably isn't any such proclamation in public in Carson City, NV but I figured it was a national symbol. Should we tear it down?

No! NO, no, of course not. It's the damned illegals! Just like the damned Islamist soon to be terrorist flagellating themselves! They're the problem. Until the next one. .. ..

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 6, 2013 - 08:39pm PT
It's pretty sad how people like Joe try to re-write the history of black liberation and paint it as a Dem thing. It wasn't. It was Republicans who led the charge.

http://www.nbra.info/DYK-HistoryTest

Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jun 6, 2013 - 09:02pm PT
Slayton! Re your assertion:

Ron's not a racist. He just hates anyone, of any color or creed, that doesn't think, live, or keep a clean lawn just like him.

What??? Ron has a lawn??
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 6, 2013 - 09:04pm PT
Hey Ron,

Do you just glass over other people's comments, or do you outright ignore them?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 6, 2013 - 09:09pm PT
Mr. Anderson just likes to make the last reply, with anything. It's like sticking a pacifier in a baby. He's pacified, till he needs to make the last response again, any response will do.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 6, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/



monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 6, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
LOL, stick your head in the sand. Learn some history.

We admit the south was full of conservative racist dems. They became republicans. Very few deny this.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 6, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
The repubs did not lead the civil rights movement of the 60's, the dems did.

Er, like Duh.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 6, 2013 - 10:02pm PT
Johnson and the dems pushed civil rights bills of the 60's, with much obstructionism from the repubs. Kennedy had to send in the troops to enforce some equality in the Republican south.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 6, 2013 - 10:08pm PT
LOL, everything has to be answered exactly as you demand.

You tell us how the Repubs led civil rights in the 60's, while the Dems hindered progress.

The 50's is a mixed bag, since Eisenhower also sent in troops to enforce integration, which the northern dems supported and the southern dems opposed (then became republican, ie, Strom Thurmond).
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 7, 2013 - 10:50am PT
Ike was the last honest Republican president.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
Ron, that's because the capitalists, who own the politicians you support, need a cheap supply of labor.

The Republicans get to have it both ways. They use illegals to drive down American wages, increase the profits of their Wall Street bosses, and at the same time demonize the illegals to scare whitey into voting Republican.

Brilliant strategy for them, too bad about America, though.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
You hate what's happening in NV, you should move or do something to change what you feel is wrong.

It's easy to do, but I can't think of a more backwater state to live in. Maybe Kansas?

Sh#t or get off the pot dude.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:40pm PT

But you do mention a very hurtful fact that JOBS are being taken by those here illegally

Ron, an illegal Mexican has NEVER taken a job away from an American. It was GIVEN to him.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:48pm PT

You hate what's happening in NV, you should move or do something to change what you feel is wrong.

It's easy to do, but I can't think of a more backwater state to live in. Maybe Kansas?

Sh#t or get off the pot dude.

Sorry Ron, this is what I said. My apologies if you missed it. Does it make sense to you? I'm not being mean, just using common sense.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
Ron,

do you really not know that you have to be a US citizen to vote?

also:

do you really not know that an "ilegal immigrant" is not eligible to receive unemployment?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_an_illegal_immigrant_file_for_unemployment


Ron, just stop it

stop making sh!t up in your head, stop LYING
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 7, 2013 - 12:57pm PT
Illegal immigrants don't vote.

Ouch, Burn! There goes your idea that all those "illegals" elected Obama.

Mexicans, electing a black man, how much more of this injustice do we have to take!?

4.5 million? Ok, that's about five minutes of wasted water in Vegas.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 7, 2013 - 01:11pm PT
Haha, you're calling me racist, Ron?

No idea where you got that. Me calling Nevada a backwater state?

Thanks for the laugh.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 7, 2013 - 01:16pm PT
Where do you get the idea that we don't know anything about embezzling Ron?

You mean like these? I know none of them are Mexican, so these guys can't be quite as guilty....


Perpetrator, Amnt., 2010$, Victim, Organization, Discovered
Yasuyoshi Kato $132 million ($90M) Day-Lee Foods, Inc. 1997
Gilbert Beesemyer $100 million ($7.7M) Guaranty B&L Assoc. 1930
Ricardo Carrasco $88.3 million ($66M) BankBoston 1998
John F. Doorly $70.5 million ($58.2M) Tenens Corp/Ayer estate 2006
Ausaf Siddiqui $69 million ($65.6M) Fry’s Electronics 2008
L. Ben Lewis $64 million ($21.3M) Wells Fargo Bank 1981
Melissa G. King $47.6 million ($42.6M) Sandhogs’ Union Local 147 2009
William Deloach $49 million ($36.6M) PBS&J Corp. 2005
Sujata Sachdeva $40.9 million ($34.5M) Koss Corp. 2009
Minnie Mangum $35.7 million ($2.9M) Commonwealth B&L Assoc 1955


For a guy that doesn't like to be accused of things, you sure can dish 'em out!
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 7, 2013 - 01:23pm PT
When B-1 Bob Dornan finally got voted out of congress, he claimed it was because of voting fraud, which he said was illegals voting for Loretta Sanchez. A thorough investigation revealed the only fraudulent votes were by Marines!
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 7, 2013 - 01:50pm PT
1) FACTS are not loud or quite, they are just facts.

2) The vast majority of sh#t Rong types are not facts, despite his claims.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 7, 2013 - 03:51pm PT
http://www.upworthy.com/know-anyone-that-thinks-racial-profiling-is-exaggerated-watch-this-and-tell-me-when-your-jaw-drops-2?c=ufb1


It's not racism, it's cultural-ism (sic)!. Clearly black people don't culturally ride mountain bikes so it's not at all racist when all of these people assume he's stealing the bike while the white kid had obviously just lost his lock key! Cultural-ism (sic)!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
Monolith, blacks and hispanics vote Dem simply because they have bought the Democrat Party line.

These people don't even understand that 'their leader' , MLK, was a Repub!

They buy into the rhetoric of party politics and Dems always promise more while delivering much less.

Just look at the unemployment and poverty numbers under Obama. He fuxked them! And they voted for him again because of his cheesy rhetoric, that was just that, empty promises.

His words are bold, but people keep buying his bullsh#t. Wake up! He is f*#king you!

monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
You've been Snoped, Bluering. MLK jr was not a Republican.

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/mlking.asp

A commonly circulated item about Martin Luther King which is not included in this list is the claim that King was a Republican. Such claims are based purely on speculation; King himself never expressed an affiliation with, nor endorsed candidates for, any political party. In response to such claims, his son, Martin Luther King III, said: "It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican."

Now his father, MLK Senior was a Repub, and that's what we've been trying to tell you Bluering. The repubs used to get black support, particularly before 1936.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:45pm PT
Nice! Way to lump "these people" into a group based on being "blacks [or] hispanics" and assume they all share the same ideology based on their race. There has to be a term for that, right?


Oh, and MLK was NOT a Repugnikunt, despite whatever misinformation you my have been fed by your overlards.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:49pm PT
Monolith, what about the rest?

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/DYK-HistoryTest

Weird how you people react to facts. You start back-peddalng into changing the story, like Snopes does.

Kinda like the WikiFacts. Please look back at history. You are wrong.

Dems used blacks. Repubs liberated them, over and over in history. Sorry it doesn't fit your narrative.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
Hahahahahaha.........

Wicked dumb.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
Bluering, I said the repubs got black support early on, because they were the libs of Lincoln's time.

Study up on the "Southern Strategy" and you'll see why the repubs don't get much black support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

In American politics, the Southern strategy is the Republican Party's strategy of gaining political support or winning elections in the Southern section of the country by appealing to racism against African Americans.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
What am I trying to paint about the south, Anderson?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 7, 2013 - 08:58pm PT
Nope, never said all blacks vote Dem, Anderson. Jeebus, you have reading comprehension issues.

Go back and look at the graphs, idiot.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 7, 2013 - 09:02pm PT
Hey Ron, have you ever been to Mexico? Canada? Central America? South America? Europe? Asia?

Your worldview is confined to the places you've been and what you read.

First hand experience is everything, you should try it.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 7, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
hahaaaa! yes, ron demands FACTS. hahahaaaaaa!
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 7, 2013 - 10:03pm PT
bluering said
Monolith, blacks and hispanics vote Dem simply because they have bought the Democrat Party line.


Right because decades of actually standing up for civil rights, electing people of color and addressing issues that affect the underprivileged all boils down to good sloganeering. Republicans systematically disenfranchising people of color from the political process was just "bad messaging" I guess.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 9, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
I'd love to be around when you say that to their face - which I doubt even you would be stupid enough to actually do.

I do it all the time. Even at work when the Mexicans I work with call Romney a "rich white guy who hates Mexicans".

It's untrue, but people buy it.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 9, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
What blows me away is that people think Repubs, or more precisely, conservatives, hate "minorities" (blacks, hispanics).

I now have a really nice woman on this site who is uber-pissed at me for passed statements about Mexicans. I do stand by the words I spoke. It had to be taken in context of what Mexican students did to the American flag.

But I digress. Conservatives love immigrants, as long as they work and don't piss on our country.

We also would like to see the black community take responsibility for themselves and their families. The main thing IMO with the black "community" is the break-down of the family.

Get it together!


Suuuure you do pal


Dude, I have nothing to prove to you. You are insignificant.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 9, 2013 - 01:11pm PT
They know who's actually for them, and who's against them.

They think they do. You obviously missed my point. Stupid is as stupid votes.

Keep shooting yourself in the foot, or impoverishing yourselves.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 9, 2013 - 01:59pm PT
CA = the best state in the union

:)
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 9, 2013 - 02:05pm PT
Rong!

Hahahaha...

So very easy.

Keep on trolling yourself, dude!

Survey says.... Racists!

Yet the pain train keeps on a rollin'...

Lord knows, this is what ST needs!

See ya later, gator ;).
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 9, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
Rong!

Whoops! That just slipped out.

Clearly, CA is massively understaffed. You've hit it right on the head. Jebus Crackers, dude.... *facepalm*
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 9, 2013 - 02:17pm PT
He didn't hear the answer he wanted, so clearly it wasn't "answered". Just start putting quotes around words like "answers", "facts", "truth", and "sources" and the world of Rong finally starts making sense ;).
Psilocyborg

climber
Jun 9, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
I dont care if you are rep or dem, black white gay straight, there are many poor people of every walk of life who use and abuse public assistance. There are also many rich people of every walk of life who use and abuse the system.

I personally know people at both ends of the spectrum that are these users and abusers.

Us hardworking americans in the middle are being f*#ked at both ends. That is how I see it. It isn't race or cultural, it is as#@&%es and thier numbers are growing at an alarming rate.

Hard working dems and reps should get together about this. It seems to me both sides are manipulated to be pit against themselves they fail to see the root cause. Assholes.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 9, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
Ron asked "Racism or Culture"

here are five definition of CULTURE

which one of these is the one this thread by Ron is about?



CULTURE
noun

1.
the quality in a person or society that arises from a concern for what is regarded as excellent in arts, letters, manners, scholarly pursuits, etc.

2.
that which is excellent in the arts, manners, etc.

3.
a particular form or stage of civilization, as that of a certain nation or period: Greek culture.

4.
development or improvement of the mind by education or training.

5.
the behaviors and beliefs characteristic of a particular social, ethnic, or age group: the youth culture; the drug culture.




ny guess is that when Ron talks about CULTURE he is talking about number 5, because his examples are negative, as in close to RACISM in their negative descriptions of behavior

all of the other definitions are actually positive attributes of a particular group of people

I am not making a judgement of any kind, just trying to help with Ron's original question: Are these things being talked about CULTURE or RACISM?

I have always thought that CULTURE was the good and positive things about a group of people, such as their education, love of close families, arts, etc

I have never considered for example that an entire nationality of people is criminal just because that population has some criminals in it, America is not criminal because we have criminals
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 11, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
FACT: has NOTHING to do with culture
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