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Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 1, 2012 - 05:15pm PT
"La Meije is a mountain in the Massif des Écrins range, located at the border of the Hautes-Alpes and Isère départements. It overlooks the nearby village of La Grave, a mountaineering centre and ski resort, well known for its off-piste and extreme skiing possibilities.

La Meije is composed of three principal summits. The highest point is the Grand Pic de la Meije at 3,984 metres. The Grand Pic is notorious in that there is no "easy" path to the top. For this reason, La Meije was the last major peak in the Alps to be summited. The first ascent was made on August 16, 1877 by Pierre Gaspard and his son and their client Emmanuel Boileau de Castelnau. In 1885, Ludwig Purtscheller and Otto Zsigmondy made the first traverse over the three summits. The south side is widely considered to be the most difficult face of La Meije, and the direct south face of the Grand Pic was only climbed in 1935 and that of the Central Pic in 1951.[1]

The Doigt de Dieu (English: Finger of God), a large snow-clad tower at the east end of the ridge, overhanging the south slopes, is an attraction for mountaineers of various levels of ability.

For mountaineering, La Meije can be approached from two mountain refuges:
The refuge du Promontoire at 3,082 metres, is situated at the bottom of the steep south buttress of the peak, and allows access to routes on the south face of the mountain.

The refuge de l'Aigle at 3,450 metres, is situated at the top of the Tabuchet glacier, and allows access to the north face."

Source: Wikipedia


La Meije traverse

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Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2012 - 05:24pm PT
La Meije et ses Ecrins. Daniel Baud-Bovy.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 1, 2012 - 05:58pm PT
Quel magnifique!
Fletcher

Trad climber
The rock doesn't care what I think
Dec 1, 2012 - 06:00pm PT
Oui!!!
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2014 - 01:16pm PT

La Grave - La Meije
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It's a higher place... and when you're here, you don't think about the world below...
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 20, 2014 - 01:41pm PT
Major Meijer, that Marlow.

Merci, mon ami.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 20, 2014 - 01:42pm PT
Now those are some seriously cool pieces of art!
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Aug 20, 2014 - 01:53pm PT
Merci beaucoup!

John
matty

Trad climber
under the sea
Aug 20, 2014 - 03:38pm PT
Best place I've ever skied...unfrocking believable...all the riff raff stays away because there are no signs, avalanche patrol, ski patrol or anything else. Met and skied with Doug Coombs there and have a ton of incredible memories. Highly recommended...and be sure to get a guide if you go...or your gunna die fer sure






Brian in SLC

Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
Aug 20, 2014 - 06:00pm PT
La Meije!




Cheese truck on Tuesday mornings? Yum!
jgill

Boulder climber
Colorado
Aug 20, 2014 - 06:26pm PT
In 1954, a year after declaring myself a climber, I bought a copy of the translated version (1947) of "High Heaven" by Jacques Boell, reminiscences of climbs he and his companions made in the early 1940s in this general area. It was (and is) a fascinating, well-written account of their mountain adventures, and it inspired me to get out to the Tetons.
Alpinist63

Mountain climber
Schleck-Country
Aug 21, 2014 - 08:04am PT
the Meije is one of the coolest peaks in the Alps, with great classics like the traverse (D), Z - route on the north face (Ice/ mixed) and the Allain route on the south face ( 2400ft, 5.9), which can be ideally combined with the traverse towards the refuge de l'Aigle, a superb old wooden refuge, unfortunately replaced by a new hut this year. the other refuge you use for the traverse, the north face as well as the south face is the refuge du promontoire, run by the Freddy and his wife. they serve a free apéritif before dinner.. so well worth visiting! as with most peaks in the Ecrins massif, the Meije involves a long approach to the hut and a long descent, but well worth it![photoid=373961]
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2014 - 09:46am PT

Thanks for great additions to the thread. First hand experiences breath life into the thread.

Here's more cinema - wingsuit jump from Doigt de Dieu:
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Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2014 - 07:57am PT

Francois Labande is the author of a great new book "La Saga des Ecrins" published on Editions Guerin. La Meije is the mountain at the center of this alpine history and American William Augustus Coolidge plays an important role at the start and has been given his own chapter.

Here's a presentation of the book with a lot of historical photos (French spoken):
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Juin 2014... La Saga des Ecrins... Le nouveau livre de Francois Labande aux Editions Guérin Chamonix Mont-Blanc... Quelques extraits de la présentation du livre...

"Les premières s'enchaînent : une équipe anglaise composée de Horace Walker, Adolphus Moore et Edward Whymper, guidée par deux pointures, Michel Croz et Christian Almer, atteint en 1864 le sommet de la Barre des Écrins, qui domine le massif. Puis, c'est la ruée vers la Meije : William Auguste Coolidge, guidé par Christian Almer et flanqué de ses deux « compagnes » (sa tante adoptive et une chienne membre d'honneur du Club alpin pour son impressionnant palmarès), accède sans trop de difficultés au supposé point culminant... manque de chance, tandis que, sous leurs pas, se dresse inutilement le Doigt de Dieu, de l'autre côté d'une traversée d'arêtes peu avenantes, la Meije au-dessus d'eux, leur fait un pied de nez. C'est à Pierre Gaspard que reviendra finalement la première de la « Grande Difficile ». Quant à cette traversée qu'Almer n'avait pu observer sans lâcher un spontané : « Unmöglich ! », elle sera à l'origine d'une nouvelle pratique : l'alpinisme sans guide, particulièrement prisée par la fratrie Zsigmondy."

Gaston Rebuffat said: "La Meije, the mountain where you become an alpinist"

Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2014 - 08:03am PT

And where in France is the "Ecrins"?

The Ecrins are in the South-eastern part of France, and close to the Italian border. "Parc national des Ecrins" is a national parc.

Here's the geography:
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2014 - 08:09am PT

There are many national parcs in the Southern and Eastern part of France. Below is a map showing us where they are. The parcs are marked with PN or PNR.
The national parc in the Calanques of Marseille and Cassis is not shown on the map.
PhilG

Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
Sep 4, 2014 - 08:10am PT
Super cool thread, Marlow.
I love that style of paintings!
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 6, 2014 - 12:31pm PT

Ecrins Massif by Frédéric Chevaillot, Paul Grobel & Jean-René Minelli -

Mountaineering in the Écrins Massif showcases the Écrins’ most beautiful summits through a selection of the area’s best lower grade snow, rock and mixed climbs. Authors Frédéric Chevaillot, Paul Grobel and Jean-René Minelli have chosen 25 classic Écrins routes – graded between F and AD – that have come to be regarded as classics due to their quality, their altitude or, simply, their easy access. These routes provide the essential pleasures of mountaineering: getting off the beaten track, enjoying the pure mountain air and delighting in the charms of the high mountains. Most of these routes are at the boundary between hiking and technical alpinism and should be within the capabilities of any fit hiker-mountaineer. Routes and peaks featured include the Aiguille du Goléon; the north ridge of the Aiguille Dibona; the south ridge of Pic Coolidge; the north-east face of the Meije Orientale; and the traverse of the Barre des Écrins ridge, plus many more. Each route features a detailed and comprehensive route description, a sketch map and a route summary detailing the start point, difficulty, timings, height gain, best time of year and the gear required. A conscious decision was made to limit the selection to relatively easy climbs, and so the routes described in this book – a mere fraction of the climbs in the magnificent Écrins Massif – should be within the capabilities of almost all mountaineers.

 See more at: http://v-publishing.co.uk/books/categories/climbing/mountaineering-in-the-ecrins-massif.html#sthash.rm7LlEEk.dpuf

Degaine

climber
Sep 7, 2014 - 08:18am PT
I've climbed in the Ecrins Range a fair amount (more than some, less than others), but still have yet to climbe La Meije and do the subsequent ridge traverse. Just a question of that magical combination of availability, good weather, and finding a partner when I'm available and there's good weather.

FYI - the old Aigle Hut was replaced; the new one was installed this summer, and kept pretty much the size, look, and feel of the old hut.

Here is a view of La Meije from 4102m

And also from 4102m a view of Ailefroide's impressive north face (actually three summits: east 3847m, central 3927m, west 3954m). You can see Les Bans (3669m) on the right slightly in the background.

For those of you who travel primarily to Chamonix when in the French Alps, I highly recommend making a specific climbing/mountaineering trip to Les Ecrins. While there is nothing ever truly "remote" in the Alps by American standards, the range is far more isolated from human structures than the Mont Blanc Range. The hut/bivy approaches are long by local standards (2 to 5 hours) and it's much easier to find a summit/route with no one else around.

Chevaillot and Minelli published two now well-known and excellent guidebooks on Les Ecrins (F-PD+, and AD-D+), but both are in French. I had no idea that they finally published a compilation in English. If traveling to the area, a must purchase.

The Dibona is a must as well:

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 7, 2014 - 08:21am PT
Looks good...really good!
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 17, 2014 - 10:16am PT

La Meije looking good on old postcards.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 17, 2014 - 10:28am PT
Why would I be hesitant to set one foot in La Grave?
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 17, 2014 - 10:39am PT
Yes, why?... keep on, keep on...
Degaine

climber
Sep 19, 2014 - 12:32pm PT
A quick bump.


From the not quite 3000m high point of the Belledonne Range.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Sep 24, 2014 - 01:54pm PT
hey there say, just a bump, to help our FIRST PAGE,

HOWEVER, awww, yes, i DO love the post that i am bumping, too...
you are of value, ...


just that i can't always visit everything and post...
but today, is REALLY NEEDED FOR HELP, TO US ALL...

WILL TRY to bump some more...
this 'message will repeat' for a bit, in the bumps...
:)

hope i am helping...


wow, MARLOW... love this thread... wow...
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 24, 2014 - 01:57pm PT

Neebee

Thanks!

I often wonder: Do you have a connection to Europe?
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Sep 24, 2014 - 04:21pm PT
hey there say, marlow... the only one, that i could say would
'make my heart soar' as to the woods and coutryside and rock, (is that what you mean?) ... would be from my mom's dear daddy...

he was imigrant, over to here, as a child, from slovenia...
he LOVED the woods... he taught her, and the sisters in her family, and she taught us...

he had to learn the language and became a construction worker and thus,
was able to see 'bids' that came out fast, for land to be bought...
when he was able, he bought a great little piece of property with WOODS out back (owned or not, not sure, as to the wood, but they were their for our walking, when we were there once as kids)...

he used a backhoe thing? and dug his own pond and stocked it, as well, to fish in... it was a lovely bit of 'homeland' i reckon, for him...

his one daughter, ellen, did the same... bought way out in the woods, and made a pond...

my mom, had been moved out to calif by our dad... she had to make due with the foothills, etc...

and us, kids... well, chappy and the rest of us fell in love with yosemite... and all those surrounding areas...

:)



our other family roots, dad's english, irish and possible native american, or mystery spot, is, one side...

my mom's slovenian/ out of austriahungary, and german, on other side...
her folks went back, to see the homeland in slovenia, but no one, by
then, was left... just the town... forgot the name of it...
feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Sep 24, 2014 - 06:10pm PT
bump for a thread with spectacular images and art.
Thank you for this super thread.

feralfae
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Sep 24, 2014 - 06:11pm PT
hey there say, all... feralfae, loving the greatoutdoors, got me to thinking...

this would be nice, to add this link here...

to the woods:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1941764&msg=2493344#msg2493344
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Sep 25, 2014 - 06:23am PT
Thanks to Marlow & all contributors for a very interesting thread.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2014 - 09:12am PT

Neebee

Thanks for sharing... :o)
matty

Trad climber
under the sea
Sep 25, 2014 - 10:03am PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2014 - 10:31am PT

Matty.

A great video. I can feel the freedom...

You think about how you're on such a fine line moving through these mountains and how free and alive they make you feel.

They say the birds here carry the souls of fallen skiers and climbers who once lived and died in these mountains. When you watch them fly in the wind, you imagine who they could have been...
matty

Trad climber
under the sea
Sep 25, 2014 - 12:38pm PT
more goodstuff:

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They have patrollers..but only to filter out those unprepared to deal with mountain hazards as they board the lift. After that your on your own.


The chutes there are unreal. I recall skiing chutes 35-45 degrees that were over a thousand meters long.

This is not my video but just a taste of one of the "shorter" coliours


[Click to View YouTube Video]



My mouth is watering...I need to go back there....

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 4, 2014 - 01:21pm PT
Came back from Italy yesterday and I was pretty sure this was Le Massif des Écrins
but it does not look like the posted pics of La Meije.

Degaine

climber
Nov 6, 2014 - 12:42am PT
Reilly,

Nice photo but you're joking, right?

That's Mount Blanc. The pyramid shaped peak on the right side of the photo is the Aiguille Verte.

Cheers.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2014 - 08:09am PT
Degaine

^^^^

Reilly

That's a great photo of La Meije. I can even imagine seeing the Grandes Jorasses on the right side.

By the way: I think I found a picture of your cabin in Firenze...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 6, 2014 - 08:14am PT
Geez, Marlow, you really know how to put the knife in and twist it by showing
the crappy job those pazzi tree trimmers did.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2014 - 08:15am PT

Yes, they trimmed them well - nothing hanging from those trees...
feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Feb 16, 2015 - 07:47pm PT
Wow, just beautiful image after beautiful image.
Thank you needs for the link.

Thank you Marlow for the beauty.
feralfae
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 20, 2015 - 01:09pm PT

Big moutain wingsuit flight at Olan
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Endless flight... endless boogie...
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2015 - 12:06pm PT

La Grave - La Meije - Freeride 2014
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Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2015 - 12:26pm PT

Into the woods at La Grave
[Click to View YouTube Video]
The horror, the horror...
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 22, 2015 - 12:03pm PT

Barre des Ecrins
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Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 9, 2015 - 02:12pm PT

Aiguille Dibona - Face Sud Classique
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Degaine

climber
Oct 23, 2015 - 01:09am PT
Quick bump for the Ecrins Range.

Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2019 - 10:37am PT

La Grave

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BruceHildenbrand

Social climber
Mountain View/Boulder
Jan 13, 2019 - 10:54am PT
Great steep skiing in La Grave, but unfortunately, it claimed the life of one of the leading lights, Doug Coombs. If you go there stay in the Auberge Edelweiss. The proprietor, Robin, is a former Superbike racer.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2019 - 10:23am PT

La Grave guiding pioneers


And then climbers having their name connected to Meije and La Grave, the Zsigmondy brothers among them. The photo is possibly from around 1880.


Histoire du Bureau des Guides de la Grave, des pionniers de l'alpinisme à aujourd'hui: http://docplayer.fr/12029178-Histoire-du-bureau-des-guides-de-la-grave-des-pionniers-de-l-alpinisme-a-aujourd-hui.html

And here you see Pierre Gaspard's ice axe earlier posted by Brian in SLC. You see Gaspard in the upper left corner of the photo above.

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