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susan peplow
climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 16, 2012 - 01:16pm PT
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Cross-post from MP.com, Russ said I should post here as well.
Two Brits, Tristan & Sam have traveled from Wales & England to climb our wonderful lands.
The lads arrived last month and somehow were able to hitch from LAX to Yosemite, then to Indian Creek. I picked the sorry suckers up from the cold road outside of Barstow and dumped them in Joshua Tree where they'll be spending the last of their Holiday. Poor boys wasted 5 days getting from Moab to Barstow. Big difference hitch-hiking in the US vs. UK.
They're super nice boys, I ran into them again yesterday climbing, they're staying in Hidden Valley Campground and have found Joshua Tree the most "interesting" place they've been so far. Which for me, is amazing....face it, they started in Yosemite and went to the Creek too!
Anywhoo, as most month long trips they're now running low on funds and have no vehicle. If any of you want to take mercy on them to run them to town, stop for a cup of tea or better yet deliver them back to LA after the holiday that would be wonderful.
I realize that most of you are probably out in Joshua Tree for the entire weekend but those of you arriving early and heading back on Friday a trip west would be much appreciated.
Their flight is on Saturday, November 24th at 4pm. They're hoping to hitch a ride to LAX or proximity on Friday the 23rd and they'll just bivy in the airport. Saturday morning would be even better but starting to cut it close if things don't work out.
Stop by and say hello and if you can hook them up with a ride, that's great! HVCG Site 29.
No phone, no car but they hope to check this posting from the library.
Thanks!
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James Wilcox
Boulder climber
The Coast
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Nov 16, 2012 - 01:59pm PT
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Is there any kind of airbus shuttle in the JT/ 29 Palms area that runs to LAX?
I'd kick in for that if no one can offer a ride.
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paigedavis
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 02:10pm PT
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There's a Greyhound bus out of Indio to LA, maybe even out of Morongo Valley. You could probably hitchhike from the park to Indio, might even get lucky and find someone going all the way to LA.
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James Wilcox
Boulder climber
The Coast
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Nov 16, 2012 - 02:36pm PT
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I saw Greyhound out of Indio, but it doesn't appear to run the 62 corridor.The airbus out of SB to LAX is pretty reasonable, I thought the JT area might have a similar service.
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10b4me
Boulder climber
member since 2002
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Nov 16, 2012 - 03:04pm PT
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Susan, maybe get ahold of Simon the Brit. I'm sure he'd be willing to give them a ride.
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granite_girl
Trad climber
Oakland
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Nov 16, 2012 - 04:39pm PT
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Here's the lads at their campsite in Indian Creek. I met them when I randomly ended up sharing a site with them, and can tell you that not only are they nice people, but they are overflowing with that dry British humor. More than enough to keep you entertained on the drive from J-Tree to LA.
They seem to be having the time of their lives climbing and hitch-hiking through the Southwest. And by this point in their trip, I doubt they have a dime to spare.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:11pm PT
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It looks like there are buses from Palm Springs to LAX, although it takes about four hours and involves some changes. Not particularly efficient or convenient, although having an afternoon flight may help. Still, a possibility, if someone can get them down the hill. (They might appreciate a side-trip to Desert Hot Springs, too!) Hitching from Yucca Valley might be a challenge.
http://www.rome2rio.com/how-to-get-to/Yucca%20Valley
The MBTA has buses that go from Yucca Valley to Palm Springs.
http://www.mbtabus.com/images/PSroute.jpg
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:13pm PT
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Laying odds they miss their flight..... Something in the range of a 20 to 1 shot they get there on time.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:42pm PT
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Russ, are you suggesting that they start walking now?
bump
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Nov 16, 2012 - 10:06pm PT
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Only if they ever want to see fresh Haggis or AeroBars ever again.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 10:11pm PT
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What's an Aerobar? Is it as weird as Haggis?
Oh, and Bump.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Nov 16, 2012 - 10:49pm PT
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Talked to them earlier this week in the campground, were super cool cats.
Hook some brothers up!
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jstan
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:08pm PT
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The MBTA bus stops at Park and 62. That will get you to Palm Springs. A little net work should show how to connect to the bus to LAX.
JT to YV
YV to Palm Springs
Unfortunately I can't find a bus to LAX from P/S. Let me look at one way car rental. Be back.
I rented a car at Hertz rental right near the lion in YV once. I priced a one way rental to LAX. Came to about $80. The limo services seemed to be in the hundreds.
$230 for two to fly Palm Springs to LAX. (no bono)
I can come up into the park and take them down to YV. Then if they have a driver's permit and do a car rental they can go directly to LAX. I just could not find good transport from Palm Springs. My phone number is in the white pages. Or PM me via Supertopo.
I have seen reports of a hitch hiker stuck on a road in Wyoming for six days. All the road crew found was a message scrawled on a guard rail, "Six days here. I am going to die."
We can't have you dying here. Lizzie would be pissed. Give me a call when death seems imminent.
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Stewart Johnson
climber
lake forest
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Nov 17, 2012 - 01:17am PT
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i mean that has to be one of the best hurl shots so far on this site.
thanks and cheers
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Sredni Vashtar
Social climber
The coastal redwoods
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Nov 17, 2012 - 01:42am PT
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aerobar bump
its chocolate with bubbles, in flavo(u)rs of mint and orange too
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Nov 17, 2012 - 09:58am PT
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So it's Waaaaaay better than haggis, then.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Nov 17, 2012 - 10:58am PT
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Bets of luck to them. Maybe, there is a possibility for them to head out of JT at the end of this weekend with someone, or early next week, and do LA CouchSurf.
Even though they would miss some days of climbing, it might be nice to get a shower in before the flight.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 17, 2012 - 12:27pm PT
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I would venture to say that any thread involving itinerant British climbers might not be considered to be all encompassing if not replete with a hurl shot.
But pray desist the extraction of mucous ejecta from your proboscis via the means of digital manipulation.
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jstan
climber
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Nov 17, 2012 - 01:38pm PT
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Please pardon the banter, on what can only be considered a very serious thread.
If Jimmy Rasinowitz is out there
thank you again for your incredible generosity.
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granite_girl
Trad climber
Oakland
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Nov 17, 2012 - 01:50pm PT
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Hey all,
Thanks for your kind thoughts towards the Brits. Here's hoping that Sam and Tristan make it from J-Tree to LA, and don't have to spend a week doing so.
That photo of them was my first post to this website, and this post might be my last, because I'm not exactly a fan of...that other picture, or internet squabbles in general, but I appreciate everyone who has contributed in a positive way, especially jstan for taking the time to do some very helpful research.
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susan peplow
climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2012 - 02:29pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Agreed, thanks to all who have suggestions as to how to make this happen. Tristan was going to post on his own but has limited access down to town and the library. I said I could post on his behalf until they can hitch a ride downtown.
As for funds, I didn't get into the particulars with them but they did say they were getting low. Too low to shop at the FiveTen store on Friday as they head to LA. I'm not sure that means they have no cash to chip in for gas and/or have left reserves for worst case scenario to pay cab/van/bus to LAX if necessary. They seem pretty bright, I suspect they have enough cash to pay to bus if absolutely necessary.
Seems to me in past years we've always had those friends who could come to J-Tree earlier in the Thanksgiving week but for one reason or another always headed back early. Those were the folks I was hoping to find on this thread.
I have no idea how much research they guys have done. I do know they were pretty happy when I picked them up hitch-hiking at dusk in Barstow and commented on how different it is to get picked up in the States vs. the UK. They had spent over 13 hours in Barstow and paid for a cab to bring them out of town before I drove by. They had already scoped out their bivy spot for the night.
John, thanks for posting the MBTA schedule, that will help some but they'd need to catch the Greyhound to LAX and who knows what cost and schedule. Based on Blitzo's last trip I'd highly recommend leaving on Friday to make it to LA. Blitzo's bus to see Locker left 3 hours later than scheduled. Speaking of which Locker.......I like you you mentioned the shuttle to the Greyhound station from JTree. You realize that Blitzo booked his bus on Sunday which means no MBTA transport available- he got to the Greyhound alright AFTER Darryl and I took him there.
Hope is still out there that someone headed west can get them as far as possible so they can catch their flight Sat afternoon. Even closer to LA starts to make a huge difference in cost and opportunity to get to the airport. They've got a few packs with them and likely will dump their ice-chest as it will no longer be needed. So space may be an issue?
As I said, they don't have a cell phone so your best bet to communicate would be to stop by HVCG site 29 to say hello or leave a message on the board. I'm not sure if I'm headed into the Park to visit with the masses this weekend but certainly could drop a note if needed.
Great photo Granite_girl, I didn't have one!
~Sooze
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For those who suggested that Simon or another local do the drive, I'm sorry that's pretty unrealistic.... you realize that JTree to LAX and back is likely a 6 hour tour right?
Good news is providing they have funds I'm sure they could make the public tranport thing work. This of course is not their first choice but certainly an option. I also belive that the MBTA does leave from downtown JTree also, not just Yucca Valley. The Saturday Greyhound is out, won't get them there in time. Friday works easy but no idea where the LA Amtrak station is and likely require another expense to get them to the airport.
>Morongo Basin Transit Authority from J-Tree to Palm Springs
>Greyhound from Palm Springs to LA Amtrak Station
>Amtrak Station to LAX by cab?
Thankfully they have that lovely exchange rate working to their advantage!
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jstan
climber
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Nov 17, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
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On the internet I was able to find no Greyhound or Trailways service from Palm Springs to LA. I must be entering something wrong. Neither website shows those stations. However going to AmTrak I find the following service between PSP- Palm Springs airport and LAX.
A Saturday departure won't work. Same schedule as shown for Friday. The dollars are for two people.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Nov 17, 2012 - 02:59pm PT
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Umm... Union Station is a long way from LAX. I'm not seeing the actual drop being at LAX and the times (39 minutes from Fullerton) is probably not going to happen unless you have a helicopter
Maybe this as a linkup: http://www.lawa.org/welcome_lax.aspx?id=292
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susan peplow
climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2012 - 03:01pm PT
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That's pretty reasonable thanks JStan. These guys seem pretty resourceful but if you're headed into the park maybe stop by with some info? You're certainly not obligated to do so but after all your research I'm sure they'd appreciate it and probably take away some of the anxiety of what's going to happen next week.
~S
Edit: Mussy, the surfliner is the train so I bet that's correct.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Nov 17, 2012 - 03:06pm PT
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That the moment one definitely commits oneself then providence moves too.
All sorts of things occur to help one that would never have otherwise occurred.
A whole stream of events issue from the decision, raising in one’s favour all manner of unforeseen incidents, and meetings and material assistance which no man could have dreamed would come his way.
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susan peplow
climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2012 - 03:08pm PT
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Wait wait wait Locker. Maybe they did do research and just hoping they can hitch instead? I never said they did no research.
For all I know they have a hide-a-pocket with fare sitting in it just in case and well aware that they can take a bus. It's not like I'm their Mom and drilled them; just said I'd post on their behalf. (although I totally could be their Mom...it's depressing)
No more awnry pills Locker! Cheer up you said sunny and no wind by you! :)
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On-Site Flasher 69
Sport climber
Riverside
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Nov 17, 2012 - 03:12pm PT
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I met these guys at schultz's ridge the day they arrived in the valley. Very nice guys. Good luck to them.
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jstan
climber
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Nov 17, 2012 - 04:15pm PT
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OK Russ is right. Pains me to admit it but, yes, he is right.
:-)
I will go up to HVCG later today. Site 29.
If I pick them up at HVCG at like 7AM we can reach P/S airport easily by 9AM.
That bus arrives at Union Station at 12:10 PM ($23 per)
Then they catch the 1PM Flyaway($7/) that reaches LAX at 1:30PM.
So they will have an afternoon to Kill.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Nov 17, 2012 - 04:18pm PT
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OK Russ is right. Pains me to admit it but, yes, he is right.
I get that a lot...
Strong work there JStan taking care of them fellahs.
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susan peplow
climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2012 - 04:22pm PT
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^^^^^^
It is painful yes! I have to tell Russ he's right all the time. Worse yet, that generally means I'm mistaken.
That's super nice of you JStan, you'll like these cats. Young boys headed to America for climbing adventures they've only read about. Sam's parent's are also climbers. His Dad has this habit of buying guidebooks for new areas in hopes they'll go. Guess their parents went to Greece last year.
The young lads may have a back-up plan or something in the works. I saw them on Thursday and they were still uncertain so any visit from you I'm sure is welcome. Please pass onto them the others who have met them in their travels and wished them well.
I dropped them some PG Tips bags so maybe they'll offer you a cup of tea during your visit.
~Susan
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jstan
climber
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Nov 17, 2012 - 04:25pm PT
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Someday I will have to tell my Jimmy Rasinowitz story. Then it will be clear what is going on here.
I'll check the place that cannot be named but it should be clean as a whistle.
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granite_girl
Trad climber
Oakland
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Nov 17, 2012 - 04:30pm PT
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Thanks everyone for helping these boys out. Word gets around, and the postings here have real-world impact.
A friend of mine who is down there right now (German, on his own journey of discovery around the Southwest but with an even tighter schedule), says that he walked into the climbing shop with Sam and Tristan today or yesterday, and it took less than 5 minutes for the person working there to say "Hey, aren't you the guys looking for a ride to LA?"
So thanks to Susan for posting up, to everyone who contributed, and especially to jstan for stepping up to the plate.
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susan peplow
climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
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Thanks GG but no thanks necessary. We're a community regardless of geography.
The boys are actually aware of the Pit. When I picked them up and said they were headed to JTree they didn't really have a bivy spot in mind. I knew just where to bring them!
I gave them the tour of town and run-down of where things are at. Laundrette, Nomads, Library, Pie for the People along with Happy Hour pricing, and various other vegetarian eateries. After which I dumped them at the Pit with the established set of rules and asked them to pass them along to any other visitor. The place was clean and deserted, they respectfully asked if they could have a fire and I said sure, the last of that fence-wood is really dwindling down.
We went over the benefits of the Pit being so close to town and free but ultimately their goal is to climb so into the Park they went where they have more independence to get around. They were also happy to hear of the Climbers Coffee on Saturday mornings, guess they really enjoyed that while in the Valley.
Anywhoo, looks like they're making friends all across the West many of which from the ST family. Hopefully they'll read this and post up of their adventures after getting home.
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chez
Social climber
chicago ill
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Nov 17, 2012 - 04:47pm PT
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Well you've done it again Soooooooze. Good job!
By the way i need a ride from Mammoth lakes to East Weems, England tomorrow.
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jstan
climber
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Nov 17, 2012 - 08:00pm PT
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Just talked to Sam and gave him all the bus schedules and one itinerary that works. They could get to P/S by bus but it would involve unknowns. They will call me if they don't need me to help.
Also stopped at "that place". Still looking clean though the wind blew one of the tables over. One of the legs needs another couple of screws.
Way to go Sooze! It does leave a good feeling to be part of something like this.
Sooze is a champ.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Nov 17, 2012 - 08:02pm PT
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You're to going personally pick them up and take them???...
yeah, john is self-aggrandizing again.
heh
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 18, 2012 - 02:24am PT
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Bravo, jstan!
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Nov 19, 2012 - 10:05am PT
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Murcy and I stopped by their site to see if they needed any supplies but no one was home at 5 pm. Good luck, guys.
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jstan
climber
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Nov 23, 2012 - 01:53pm PT
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Tristan and Sam arrived at Amtrak's bus stop at the Palm Springs airport at 8:30AM Friday. In plenty of time for the 9AM bus to Union Station. They wanted you all to know they encountered incredible hospitality throughout their whole trip, but that Sooze appeared just when they needed her. They thought JT most incredible for both its beauty and the climbing. They regretted having to leave but said, "We'll be back."
I told them to try and make it to Yosemite later in September so as to be there for Facelift, the biggest happening this side of Mars.
Edit:
I told them my Jimmy Rasinowitz story. What I did does not even begin to pay back what I owe Jim
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Nov 23, 2012 - 02:19pm PT
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John Stannard - you ARE the man! What a nice thing you did, getting those guys to the bus.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Nov 23, 2012 - 02:32pm PT
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Good on ya, Jstan!
Now those guys have to spread the love when they get home and let JStan stay on their couch during a Griststone trip, I think!
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turd
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Nov 23, 2012 - 02:57pm PT
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Bravo Sooze and Jstan.
P.S. I would like to hear the Jimmy Rasinowitz story.
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granite_girl
Trad climber
Oakland
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Nov 27, 2012 - 03:22am PT
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Glad to hear that the Brits made it back in one piece. The last I heard, they were down to barely the cost of the greyhound ticket, so your ride came just in time.
I'll see if I can encourage them to post up some of their adventures. It sounds like they met some real characters out here.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Nov 27, 2012 - 04:15am PT
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Yes bravo and well done.
And I too would like to hear the Jimmy Rasinowitz story.
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Nov 27, 2012 - 05:04am PT
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Good Job Jstan! You're the man and a treasure to our climbing community here.
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susan peplow
climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2012 - 11:35am PT
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Wonderful, the boys made it to at least the bus thanks JStan and hopefully got on their flight with no issues. With any luck we'll hear a little of their story here. Or if not, seems we can tell our own!
Super nice guys and so excited to be climbing in the States. I have no doubt they'll be back.
Big thanks to all who posted, cared to read the thread, emailed personally with offers to help and especially JStan who made it happen! We really do have a wonderful community, something to be thankful and proud of.
~Susan
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jstan
climber
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Nov 27, 2012 - 12:44pm PT
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Jimmy Rasinowitz
You are not going to believe this story. But, hey. You asked for it.
After Cathy and I did the JMT we decided to do the next section of the PCT between Tuolomne and Donner Pass. After reading Jardine a couple more times I figured we could up our daily mileage another 10% to 22 miles per day. So we carried the food for that. Well from Tuolomne north the trail actually goes west and so it is never level. You end up climbing every damn hill there is. We managed to do only 16 miles a day and by the time we reached Walker River and the climb to Sonora Pass it was clear this little outing was not going to end well.
So we hiked the 15 miles leading toward 395. That did not get us to the interstate. Only to the first road where we found a detachment of military practicing mountaineering. After a few minutes the sargent realized if he wanted to avoid having to emergency evacuate two dying hikers, he needed to get us out of there. So an ensign was ordered to drive us the many more miles to 395. I suspect he also felt our presence was degrading the morale and self-confidence of his troopers.
Then it got sketchy. Literally thousands of pickups we would have been privileged to ride in the back of went by with no decrease in speed. I have studied the art of hitching. So I and all the packs stayed behind a sign and Cathy stood out on the shoulder. When no one stopped I considered suggesting she put one leg out in the road, but then thought better of it. Deferred death generally being preferable to the more immediate variety. After three hours we see this wrecky beat up van coming at a great rate. In a way suggesting the driver was either conflicted or suicidal. At the last moment the van came sliding sideways to a halt on the gravel.
I advised Cathy that should the driver come around the end of the van with a hatchet in hand, she was to drop her pack and run like hell up 395. When he appeared my first thought was, “Ah yes. I now understand the van.” Most of the words he used were short but I did not feel we were in a position to be picky. Turns out he had already picked up a couple from France and a young fellow from Germany and the van was full to the gills. When Jimmy gave up trying to decide whether he had room for our packs he just said. “F*#k it! Get in. And we did, I sitting on Cathy’s lap in the death seat.
Using my unparalleled skills (literally true) in communication I attempted to assess Jimmy. Turns out Jimmy had been been working as a snowmobiler guide around Mammoth. When Cathy mentioned we were climbers he said, “I took a class from a climber. His name was Jim. Jim Bridwell." At first I took this as a very good sign. Then I realized knowing Jim Bridwell did not really place any kind of bound on what a person is capable of. None. Jim then suggested we take a side trip into the desert and tour Bode. I thought, “Oh no! Not the desert thing. I have heard about that”. At that moment a rabbit tried to cross the road in front of us and Jim slammed on the brakes and swerved so as not to squash it. My concerns evaporated. As to Bode I said, “Cool! Let’s do it.”
I don’t think it is possible to be a more skilled tour guide than Jimmy Rasinowitz. In perhaps two hours everyone in our rather diverse group saw everything they wanted to see in Bode, fascinating place, and we were back on the road. And we never felt hurried. Phenomenal. Truly phenomenal. When we got back to 395 Jim asked,” anyone hungry? We can eat at the Mobil gas station.” Images of twinkies danced before my eyes but we decided, “Why not?” Well you know how that turned out.
After eating, Jim asked, "where’s your car." I said, “Up in Tuolomne.” He said, “Get the f*#k back in. I’ll take you to your car.” He then went 100 miles out of his way. Maybe more. He did not want to take any gas money but Cathy and I insisted and gave him what we had. From there his plan was to buy a poncho and to go sleep on the beaches of Guam till he thought of something else to do.
To get to this part of the story you had to do a lot of reading. The story has two punch lines.
1. I am the kind of person who has to plan. Jimmy showed me how fascinating and interesting an unplanned life can be. Thanks to Jimmy I understand a little better the choices you youngsters make.
2. I want to ask something of you all. From now on when you meet a wrecky guy who uses short words, I want you to ask, “Jimmy? Jimmy Rasinowitz? Is that really you? If he says yes, you are to say, “I have wanted to meet you for so long! Is there anything I can do for you?”
Sooze did just such an incredible deed when she picked up Sam and Tristan out there in the desert.
No matter how hard I peddle I’ll never deserve all the kindnesses I have received.
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turd
climber
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Dec 24, 2012 - 06:38pm PT
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Hey Jstan -
Thanks for the story. For some reason I just remembered to go back to see if you had posted it.
It's really humbling when I stop to think of how many people like Jimmy (and you and Susan) I've met over the years, both climbers and not.
Your last sentence makes me smile. I know what you mean.
Great story any day, but I am glad I ran across it today. Hope you are enjoying your holidays.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Dec 24, 2012 - 06:48pm PT
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jstan, that was a hell of a story, and all so similar to the kindness that was shared to me when I hitchhiked around the Kenai Peninsula ten years ago. I made so many friends hitching, I almost didn't leave.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Dec 24, 2012 - 07:20pm PT
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I have met Jimmy Rasinowitz, and he is you, John Stannard..... Just as sure as our parents are the one and true Santa Claus, you are he.
And I also gave up trying to peddle harder in life. But I do still pedal at my cruising speed, pretty regularly.
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