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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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Nov 15, 2012 - 08:39pm PT
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You are on to something here . . . a gun does not a man make.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Nov 15, 2012 - 08:43pm PT
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fights are five nine.
are you gonna eh-zero your way thru
the confrontation with a gun,
or are you gonna onsight it with your fists?
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 15, 2012 - 08:44pm PT
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"Guns are dildos in time's vagina"
Now that my friend, is poetry.
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splitter
Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Nov 15, 2012 - 08:45pm PT
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me? no gun's, AND, i got a "little dick"! WTF! ... sheeeesh!!
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Nov 15, 2012 - 08:49pm PT
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I got yer christmas present here Weege.
Seen in the junior size. It's a chill tube.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Nov 15, 2012 - 08:50pm PT
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prey for me crag.
i'll pray for the bears.
we'll all end up in hellven.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 15, 2012 - 08:59pm PT
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Ten-incher, right here.
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splitter
Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Nov 15, 2012 - 08:59pm PT
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pray for me crag-i'll pray for the bears dood, while yer at it, cud ya pray that my "little dick" wud grow a couple inches? ...just sayin! ;)
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John M
climber
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Nov 15, 2012 - 09:00pm PT
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One only needs to watch the front page of this site to know when happy hour starts.
Pathetic.
Piss off Cragman. I don't drink.
But I'm thinking I should start up again if you are an example of a fine human being.
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Gene
climber
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Nov 15, 2012 - 09:02pm PT
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i KNOW i could nail some gees with that bad boy.. Wonder if its mountable to a boat?
Hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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John M
climber
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Nov 15, 2012 - 09:04pm PT
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Looked through the house, the only thing I have is cooking sherry. Stores are closed. Heading to the neighbors. I know they have booze. See you in a bit. Thanks for the inspiration Dean.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Nov 15, 2012 - 09:07pm PT
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^^someone disallowed him?
like I said before I have a couple of guns and would use one in self-defense
otherwise I'm with splitter, if more guns will add some strength to my wang (that's what she calls it and she's not asian) then point me to the store
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John M
climber
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Nov 15, 2012 - 09:08pm PT
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Sorry Ron.. Norg rarely rubs me the wrong way. Dean on the other hand... well. Whats weird is that I don't' fully agree with Norwegian on this subject. I know people like what he describes, but I disagree that everyone who carries a gun does it to feel manly. I carried a gun for awhile on one trip because it was the prudent thing to do. I would again too..
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Nov 15, 2012 - 09:09pm PT
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This is going to be guuuud!
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Nov 15, 2012 - 09:09pm PT
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Nov 15, 2012 - 09:16pm PT
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pud it's not my troll.
patrick started this exact thread,
got about six deep
and then he pulled the o.p.
so's i liked it so's i stared up it again.
cragman
the other day i was in the park with
my kids and dog.
this big asse dog charges my border collie
and begins to kill her slowly with
a death grip to the throat.
i up off the teeter totter and
boot the beast upside the head,
again. the thing aint release.
so i lower my shoulder and
lay into the cituation with all that i was
that day
and the villian lets out a swirling scream
and lets go of my baby.
i kick it again and it runs back
to it's wide-eyed owner.
"put that f*#ker on a leash," i utter to
nowon in particular.
guns? guns? we don't need no stickeen glaciers.
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Jimmy Russells
climber
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Nov 15, 2012 - 09:21pm PT
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I am a vegan who owns an assault rifle. Wrap your head around that one.
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Michelle
Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Nov 15, 2012 - 09:24pm PT
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There's nothing like sitting with ma deuce between your legs putting rounds downrange.
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splitter
Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Nov 15, 2012 - 09:26pm PT
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Michelle, i gotta say, ya got a way with words, girl (puts a whole new light on the subject)! ;)
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Gilroy
Social climber
Boulderado
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Nov 15, 2012 - 09:26pm PT
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Well, Weeg, yr pretty innertaining and I ain't about sticking guns in vaginas, I mean, where's the fun? Butt wind a fellow came and took my daughter cuz he was the birth father and my wife but a mother, eye to eye took a gun to be sure he understood it was my way or the underside of rocks.
Waste of the world need a dicktionary to understand sometime. Haights it.
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Jimmy Russells
climber
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Nov 15, 2012 - 09:50pm PT
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Shut the f*#k up, Donny.
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Gilroy
Social climber
Boulderado
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Nov 15, 2012 - 10:49pm PT
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climbers talking here donny. fuk ov. don't clik/doan poast.
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Nov 15, 2012 - 11:10pm PT
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I prefer my little guns and my big... biner ?
Just remember, it's how you use it. Don't shoot the bear... shoot your partner in the foot.
ha ha ha ha ha
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
bouldering
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Nov 15, 2012 - 11:42pm PT
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My landlord talks about the mexicans with their dialed/ pimped-out pick-ups as showing off what a big dick they have, and if it's a woman behind the wheel, what a big fertile pussy.
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Michelle
Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:12am PT
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Just sayin' it like it is.
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Gilroy
Social climber
Boulderado
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:32am PT
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Good to have a woman's input amongst all this trigger twitching testosterone.
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:38am PT
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I agree with Norwegian.
I grew up in the country and plenty of people hunted deer/birds and most of my uncles had rifles. I had a single pump Daisy BB gun but always switched with one of my buddies as kids and carried his compound bow. Never actually hit anything with it. I can respect hunting as long as you are going to eat what you kill, and use the rest of the animal. Taking as much meat as you can carry is B.S. take the whole animal or let it live.
People who carry guns for self protection are part of the problem in my book. I don't see more guns as more safe I see it as more likely that someone gets shot and I think we will see an increase in people shot wrongly (not in self defense) by other citizens in our future.
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Vulcan
Sport climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:11am PT
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You can get a lot farther with a kind word and a gun than a kind word alone.
Al Capone
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:39am PT
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Just read something about gun and ammo sales going up as a result of the election. Interesting reaction having citizens arming themselves, I'm at a loss as to what the heck they are so afraid of? Citizens that are largely unarmed? They think in our gun obsessed society someone is going to take their rights away? Sure seems to me the NRA is one great group of marketers for the sale of arms. Too bad they're using fear as a driver because the worse thing you can loose in any relationship is trust. For a society to make any progress we need trust.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:44am PT
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HERE'S AN IDEA
LET HIM HAVE HIS THREAD
HURTS N0 ONES AND MOST OF US DONT UNDERSTAND HIS E.E.CUMMINGS(LOL) PROSE N E WAY.
GO 'WAY, CRAGMAN. UR BEENG A MEANY AND ITS UNBECOMING.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:53am PT
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I nuked my thread because of the few adverse posts by some who I would consider nutcases. I did not want to break Supertopo.com decorum by allowing a couple of nutters to ruin a thread that had merit, in my opinion. I was making a valid point, but the chancers decided to derail the thread. So I yanked it. Only the third time in seven years I have nuked one of my threads.
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:58am PT
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Embrace the gun, not the fear.
For guns are here to stay,
until someone invents a lazer beam killer!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 16, 2012 - 10:49am PT
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I still have the entire 9 post thread Patrick.
Mine was the last post;
Nov 15, 2012 - 04:15pm PT
It isn't necessarily about blood sports Patrick.
Dick size isn't important. Group size is.
Challenging people on the basis of combat experience is like judging an alpinist on the basis of how many loose rocks they have been hit by.
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Yeah, there's a lot of paranoia. The gun stores are doing a brisk business.
Ammo has not been snatched up like last time though, probably the cost, but it is moving.
I bought 3 guns yesterday (Saiga 20, Bushmaster varminter with fluted barrel, Rossi lever action .357), but thats no big deal. I had my eye on a nice used over and under 12 too on Wednesday but the manager had the day off and when I came back yesterday to wheel and deal it was GONE (!!!&*#$&@!!)
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 16, 2012 - 10:55am PT
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Splitter,
"It is far too late to wring hands over the size of one's pud."
Happiness is really cool gunmetal. It means we got peace for a while.
Time has no vagina. It creates itself. A better image is a black hole. Similar, in fact, to the one Weej seems to dwell in. I see his point, though. We as a nation are the laughingstock of those civilized societies which prevent easily-obtained firearms.
On behalf of the bears, deer, wild sheep and goats, and all the rest of the targets of "sportsmen", you can all kiss our shriveled dicks, you dominant gun-toting wankers. Weej, you hit the center.
What is it that makes us think it's cool or admirable to wipe out defenseless animals from a safe distance with a high-powered rifle? It's called "hunting" and it's legal. This does not make it a nice thing. I think it's much more admirable to stalk "prey" with a camera. And you don't need tags, there's no mess, and the creatures get to go on grazing.
Hey, Ron, it's how I feel, have felt, and will feel. I give you the law, but that doesn't satisfy. I give you tradition in this country. Still no satisfaction. It's either necessary to kill game or it is not. Private land, do what you will.
I am simply crying in the E-wilderness.
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:01am PT
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Norwegian, you are denying the true nature of man. Man is an animal and any animal, plant, or other creature on this planet is here because they fight to survive. Peace does not make a man from a chimpanzee. All species have a constant arms race with their own kind and with all others who might ever take their resources and lead them to extinction.
Nobility is only a strange side effect of a big brain and will be ignored or will lead the human race to extinction while some other species passes us by... by buying guns.
You want to rid the world of those that buy guns? Get a gun and start shooting because you can't get rid of them with poetry.
Dave
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:03am PT
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I feel the same way about an individuals right to firearms as I do an individuals right to climb on public lands.
Saying that I use a gun to prove my manliness is about as dumb as saying I climb to prove my manliness.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:11am PT
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I'm afraid to talk of paranoia, Ron.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:13am PT
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This is obviously Obama's fault.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:15am PT
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You kidding?
Gun retailers might actually want a third term!
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:26am PT
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Hey if there were no more forks nobody would stab themselves in the eye!
Lets nerf the world!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:39am PT
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Big piles of guns and ammo will not win the day if you take the first one between the eyes.
Over 20 Navy Seals with Air support have been taken out with a single rocket. Not the norm, but all I'm saying is that just because you think you're all badass and armed doesn't mean you won't drop as though you were standing there empty handed.
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John M
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:48am PT
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DAMM SKIPPY the 2013 NDAA law is ALL obamas. And i ask WHY would such constitutional eroding laws would be put into place against US as attached to the DHS and terrorism.? Once again, the 2013 law has NOTHING to do with terrorism, it deals with citizen "belligerents".
I think that I know what this is, but could someone give me a synopsis? I looked this up and it sounds like something I thought the gov had been working on for some time. Not really an Obama thing, but something started quite awhile ago. The Patriot act being a big part of it.
Something like.'
If we think you are a terrorist or just someone we don't like.
We can arrest you.
We don't have to tell you why.
We don't have to tell anyone why.
You have rights, but we can ignore them.
Is this the gist?
We can hold you as long as we want.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:53am PT
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Guns don't kill people
Bullets kill people
and they are also good for shooting dogs at the crags
;-)
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:54am PT
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I used to think like Weege. I don't agree with guns because they make it far too easy to kill someone.
I also hear what Ron is saying:
Ive lived 54 years thus far and never have seen the likes of what goes on today. I use the Germany of old in comparison to these actions taken by our govt as the 2013 law does not deal with terrorism but rather "belligerents". Which means You or I. A blanket law that allows them to do anything they please to US w/o due process of any article 111 kind. Its quite easy to compare that to Nazi Germany, and what we accept today will be increased upon tomorrow.
There is just too much evidence something weird is going on... So I don't know what to think anymore. I do know that learning how to hunt could be very useful when the food chain is disrupted.....
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:56am PT
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I'm at a loss as to what the heck they are so afraid of?
Well? is it the black guy. the bears, the snowboarders or the heathen PBR poets that have your camo- pajamas in a bunch?
Judgmental, gun-toting Christians, the best argument for Atheism.
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John M
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:56am PT
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But the very language of the 2013 bill should chill one to the bones.
Ron.. My bones were chilled with the Patriot act. And the various not for regular criminals ( meaning they sit empty right now ) detention centers that have been build around the country. Many of them during the Bush era.
Glad to see you are awake now.
So I don't really blame Obama.. He is part of a much bigger problem. Mitt or McCain would have done the same thing, but the gun toters probably wouldn't have gone out and bought as many guns or as much ammunition. And Bush was definitely part of it, with his pals Cheney and Rumsfeld.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:04pm PT
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Wait....lemmegetthisstraight....this isn't Obama's fault?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:11pm PT
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Phew....for a minute there, I thought Ron had actually opened his mind.
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John M
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:12pm PT
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You sheeple are ka-lou-less as to what's in store for us.
Thanks NWO2. I just loves it when you talk dirty. I probably never would have figured any of this out without your help oh wise one.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:13pm PT
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Ron...we all know what you are concerned about. I was addressing the premise of the OP. Why don't you start an NDAA/Patriot act/Cartel from Compton thread and then all your posts will be on topic.
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John M
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:13pm PT
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Apogee, some day you need to learn to read Ronisms..
Ron has stated in the past that he knows this didn't start with liberals. Its not a liberal/conservative thing. He blames Obama right now because he is the one in power and it is appearing that what they want to add is going to make the government even scarier.
It is true that he is much more vocal now then under Bush. He is less afraid of conservatives.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:17pm PT
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"...some day you need to learn to read Ronisms.. "
Yeah, and if I'm truly 'fair & balanced', I should probably read Michelle Bachmann's autobiography when it comes out.
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John M
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:19pm PT
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Ron.. what people react to is you act like all this crazy stuff is all the liberals fault. You didn't hardly say anything when Bush was in charge. You are much much much more vocal now.
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My God apogee.. how can you even say that woman's name. ( if she is in fact really a woman and not some serpent alien ) egad man.. I need a twinkie
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:23pm PT
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Survival, as you well know, That DOESNT stop the will of the people to be FREE. Never has. The last time we fell under such "laws" we went to war and kicked the british out of the country. EVERY military and ex military person i know says they will NOT co-operate with any such law in any shape or form. Their OATH contains the reasoning.. "enemies foreign and domestic".
Holy sh#t Ron, you took my comment about quantities of arms, and you turned it into the government?!
That's the kind of twist that might make some think that you're going a little extreme.....
You should go reread my post.
But I'm here for ya man.
That being said, there's nothing in a battleship showdown like the one that can a shoot a couple miles further!
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John M
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:25pm PT
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Ron did join the forum in March of 2009. Right when we got that Muslim president.
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:28pm PT
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You fear the gun but not the knife,
rely on your fist to defend your life.
Willing to give your rights away
for delusions of safety you gain that way.
Dems or repubs hell the green party too
will all just impose their own ideals upon you.
The will of man-
Enforce his will
upon his fellow man.
That is the result of the societal plan.
This rant o'er guns is just idealistic spate,
more justification to subjugate.
Thank God we all live in a country thats free.
But how do i force my belief upon Thee?
Take a toke
make a vote
its majority rule
We make laws
we write clause
think you,re free...
You,re a fool.
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John M
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:31pm PT
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I checked Ron.. Your first post was March 18 2009.
I got secret govment contacts.
If you have any ding dongs. I'm willing to trade with you. the secret handshake is two fist knocks and an elbow touch. Don't forget it and don't spread it to anyone you don't' trust.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:33pm PT
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G'damn that was funny!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:37pm PT
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"I say yer multi-colored dawg ain't welcome in my yard!!"
"Whose dawg you callin' multi-colored? Why,... I heard you pray out of a funny book over here...."
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apogee
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:38pm PT
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Look out, John...Ron gets weirded out when people start looking at his posting history...he'll say you are stalking him or some such...
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John M
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:40pm PT
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Anyone been to the Carnival in Rio? There is an add for it on this page. I figure if I am going to flee this country so I don't' end up in one of them Fema camps, then I should go someplace where they know how to party and they appreciate twinkies.
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John M
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:41pm PT
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Don't worry Apogee. Ron and I are copacetic. Thats Muslim for cool with each other.
He won't shoot me if I promise to feed him twinkles. We are part of the great twinkie treaty of 2012.
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apogee
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:47pm PT
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Never thought of Ron as a twinkie-eater. Go figure.
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John M
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:50pm PT
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Damn.. now how am I going to get me some protection. I got to get down to Rio where they appreciate the twinkie.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:51pm PT
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What would my long lost cousin Daniel Boone say about all this?
Daniel Boone would have agreed that the rights of the individual should reign supreme. Almost every swingin' dick here would agree with that guiding light on some level. He also agreed with the federal government of his day in many ways.
He also would have had little clue about understanding a 21st century, global economy, the white guy isn't right about everything world, where the colored citizens are supposed to have as many rights as the "non" colored citizens.
Ron, I never disagreed that the "government bears close watching." I think one of the founding fathers said that? Jefferson?
But more citizens believing that their own government is the actual enemy? We're clearly not that far down the path of destruction in my opinion.
This present government is universes more just for the common man than the vast majority of governments in human history.
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apogee
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 12:57pm PT
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"Daniel Boone would have agreed that the rights of the individual should reign supreme. Almost every swingin' dick here would agree with that guiding light on some level. "
Yup. And then the RR took over the GOP, and hypocrisy became the modus operandi of the Party.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 01:06pm PT
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WHO'S IN TAHOE???? ;o)
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John M
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 01:07pm PT
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Ron, As a liberal who complained vigorously about the patriot act, I was laughed at by the conservatives on this forum. Thats just one of the reasons many of us are confused about why you seem more worried about the liberals then you do the conservatives.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 16, 2012 - 01:20pm PT
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"...it does no good to complain about the past. What is needed is for the NOW."
Funny, but you guys never seem to remember that when your Party is in power. Why should we take you seriously NOW?
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Norte_Caroliña_Climber
Gym climber
BigWall Baller From the Holler
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Nov 16, 2012 - 01:22pm PT
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Twinkie is goin outta biz boys. No more ho-hos either. Ho-ho-Hostess filed for the bankrupt and shuttin er down.
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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 01:22pm PT
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"when (heaven forbid) a bear enters your domain, threatening your beautiful girls..."
Such an ignorant pussy.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 16, 2012 - 01:31pm PT
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Maybe that's the reason for skyrocketing gun sales in NV?
You said it was because of the black Muslim President!
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Nov 16, 2012 - 01:38pm PT
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Name-calling... What a true sign of intelligence! (thats sarcasm in case you might have a touch of ignorance yerself)
Shall we degenerate further? Perhaps next you can utter some cro-magnon grunting in support for your obvious disdain of weapons and their potential traumatic effect upon such charismatic mega-fauna as the bear?
Heh heh
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Nov 16, 2012 - 01:43pm PT
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And just a quick question-
how many of you are vegan who abhore firearms and hunting?
Do you only purchase shoes of pure synthetics or are you typically hipocritical with leather mocs?
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Nov 16, 2012 - 01:46pm PT
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What would be wrong with a muslim pres anyway? Do you not believe in the ideal of religious freedom? Any religion you want, so long as its Christian?
Ok then, go elect a Westborough Baptist and see whatcha get!
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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 01:54pm PT
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"tell that to the five houses broken into by bears in Tahoe, or the houses raided in Markleeville, or even in the town of Mason NV. How bout the one in the Carson city home a while back?"
I just wanted to say it to Dean, or has he bailed supertopo again after someone disagreed with him?
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Nov 16, 2012 - 02:00pm PT
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Well, enough of this. Im going to find a pebble to skip. Better bring my 357, as the barrel length is just enough to cover those offwidths just beyond a bd6.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 16, 2012 - 02:03pm PT
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Hey, Ron- that thing's too small to see...
(Heard that before?)
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Nov 16, 2012 - 02:39pm PT
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a thorough declination of substance
is evident within our psychologically advanced species.
we rely more on brains,
than we do brawn.
i am as guilty as god, is this case.
though i abhor this tendency,
because i admire within myself,
and within my culture,
those people whom
exist upon the fruits of their physical resolve.
pulling a small trigger with your pointer finger
is sissy. anyone can do it.
an infant, even.
now responding to adversity with
nothin more than your evolutionary gifted flesh?
this requires a person of depth.
and this is who i aspire to become.
and this is whom i admire:
folks with life spark issuing of their actions.
the rest of you whom define yourselves
according to your purchases
(that is all it takes to get a gun)
i've no use for you,
nor do i have any respect for you.
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Nov 16, 2012 - 02:51pm PT
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And what says it of you
who so willingly
defines all those whom you disdain
by the purchase of a single thing?
What more of life
they maybe live
care you not!
A shame.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 02:54pm PT
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I like my dick better than my gun......................
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 16, 2012 - 03:17pm PT
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Geez, Ron, if we have to look reeeeeaaaaalllll hard to see your tiny stick legs, what does that say about anything else?
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 16, 2012 - 03:17pm PT
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What would be wrong with a muslim pres anyway?
The funny thing is, the same clowns who think he's muslim have roundly condemned him for attending church with Christian Reverend Wright for 20 years
Hmmm
Peace
Karl
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Nov 16, 2012 - 03:26pm PT
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I dont see Wege as a hipocrite. Hes expressing his opinion. By this thread i take his opinin to be that of anti-gun sentiment. And he openly states his presumption that gun ownership singularly devalues the owner.
The vegan wearing leather, just like those who eat meat yet deplore hunting, is a hipocrite.
At least in that regard. I would not automaticly discount them as worthless.
But please, take a deep breath so you can declare our wonderful freedom and decry guns at the same time. Or religion. Or cell phones. Or the damage from bolting.
And how all of them should be banned.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 03:41pm PT
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If you want a son, you gotta be able to dig deep and Obama could barely get past the lips. Little pecker lib-
OUR NEW FRIEND LUNA REVEALS HIM/HERSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 03:41pm PT
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If you want a son, you gotta be able to dig deep and Obama could barely get past the lips. Little pecker lib-
OUR NEW FRIEND LUNA REVEALS HIM/HERSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
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If you want a son, you gotta be able to dig deep and Obama could barely get past the lips. Little pecker lib-
OUR NEW FRIEND LUNA REVEALS HIM/HERSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 03:44pm PT
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If you want a son, you gotta be able to dig deep and Obama could barely get past the lips. Little pecker lib-
OUR NEW FRIEND LUNA REVEALS HIM/HERSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 03:44pm PT
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If you want a son, you gotta be able to dig deep and Obama could barely get past the lips. Little pecker lib-
OUR NEW FRIEND LUNA REVEALS HIM/HERSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Nov 16, 2012 - 03:47pm PT
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Isnt riley also anti-gun?
Gkad im just ignorant and still capable of becoming educated. Perhaps its ignorant of me to post up here at all.
DISCLAIMER- i meant the leather-wearing vegan who hates hunters. But maybe that last part doesnt matter to you.
There are many reasons to own a gun, arent there?
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Nov 16, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
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ron
you see, about me.
i dont know nothing.
i am a man of many opinions,
and minute knowledge.
understanding is like mass,
it cannot be created nor destroyed,
it is a fixed quantity
and that which we dont understand
we make up for with strong opinions.
unreality is my domain,
and here i am myne own hero.
pm me your address and i'll
impart unto you a chirtma card (i've vowed to take the esses out of christmas).
cheers, mate.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 03:59pm PT
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So what's up with the vegan beaver skin wearing liberatarian communist muslim gay pro life guy anyway??
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Nov 16, 2012 - 04:01pm PT
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Nah. Just random crap i guess. Comes from having met enough with that particular mindset that it came to mind as a worthwhile example. Perhaps not.
Just tired of the (generalizing here) "i hate that lets ban it" mindset.
Too many assumptions on my part i suppose. Particularly feisty today anyway.
Happy climbing Norwegian. And Jeebus.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 16, 2012 - 04:07pm PT
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Fuggin' AAAAAA
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Nov 16, 2012 - 04:11pm PT
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Anybody ever seen this guy's junk?
If you have, did he say "hey, you lookin' at me?"
I thought so
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Nov 16, 2012 - 04:14pm PT
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Girlfriend was a veggie for over a decade. Only eats organic meat now. We too have been eating deer steak of late.
But thats not how we define ourselves, its just a thing we do. Like climbing.
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frank wyman
Mountain climber
helena montana
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Nov 16, 2012 - 04:26pm PT
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I want to go "Snipe" hunting...I got my own flashlight...and paper bag..
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splitter
Trad climber
da'Raven / Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Nov 16, 2012 - 04:28pm PT
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Just curious, has anyone ditched their guns and just happened to notice that their "little dicks" immediately grew a couple of inches?
edit: the reason i ask is because i have a winchester 30/30 stashed away in my storage locker that I haven't even dug out, let alone shot, in 10-15 years, and i was thinkin' if perhaps I got rid of that rifle, maybe there actually may be some correlation between "little dicks" and ...
oh, never mind!!
;)
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 16, 2012 - 04:29pm PT
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Life is eternal on the internet, one can never die. People with the techie know-how can resurrect a dead thread. What next?
And the spirit of my original thread is not on this resurrection.
Sad.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Nov 16, 2012 - 05:48pm PT
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Is this a gun argument?
Cool, I think guns are great. I own two myself.
I do however think that people who obsess over their firearms are scared, whiny, pussies who are compensating for some inherent weakness in their personality.
Genetics? Parenting? I don't know.
The fact that gun nuts are hoarding ammo is a sign that said people are weak, scared, and unintelligent.
I like shooting, but reactionaries freak me out.
Don't get me going on handguns...
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Nov 16, 2012 - 06:04pm PT
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Norwegian speaks the truth as usual.
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Norte_Caroliña_Climber
Gym climber
BigWall Baller From the Holler
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Nov 16, 2012 - 06:25pm PT
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Elk, Moose, and the tenderloin off whitetail deer. All the rest of that Ronanderson listed taste like crap. Only people dumb enough to eat grouse and dove are the ones who spent a bunch of time and scratch to hunt em in the first. Call yer dentist first too cause #7 1/2 shot does a number on your pearlies.
I always thought little dicks and big guns was a name for body builders. Take them roids and shrink their gonads but get some big old arms. Then they just go apeshit crazy and drop dead like Lyle Alzedoh.
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splitter
Trad climber
da'Raven / Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Nov 16, 2012 - 06:40pm PT
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Are you going to eat what you kill? I have something to say to both factions, here!
My father, mother & family are from Cape Breton, NS! He, when he was courting my mother, went out and shot a deer and (after field gutting it, etc) brought it to her mother and offered it their family. That told her (my grandma/grandpa had already passed on) that my father was capable of providing food for my mother. This was 1940.
By the time I was 6 y.o. my father took me out into those very same Canadian woods and taught me how to set snares to trap wild hairs (rabbits). And how to track and hunt them with a rifle (22)! This wasn't a hobby or simple pastime, it was at times, pure survival (cape Breton was an isolated island back then, and the winters could be VERY severe). It could have meant life or death in the most extreme situation, and believe me when I say things could get very extreme in the Canadian outback of the 1950's! But it also meant supplementing an, at times, Spartan existence ... putting some much needed protein on the dinner table. There is something very satisfying & rewarding, and very ingrained in our psyche, regarding that.
We moved to upstate NY and for my 8th birthday I asked for a rifle. I drew pictures of one a couple times and got up early in the morning and snuck down and put it in my fathers lunch pail before he went to work s a reminder! So, when my birthday rolled around and this long box wrapped in birthday paper was handed to me, you can guess what I thought it was. Well, to my surprise, it was not a rifle, it was a recurve hunting bow and set of hunting arrows. I was shocked. I couldn't figure out what went wrong ... was I that bad of an artist?
Well, I fell in love with that bow (and i never questioned my father bout why he got it, but I suspect he figured i was little to young to be out in the woods, etc. with my own rifle). I also developed a keen interest on the Native American tribes and culture. Spent countless hours in the library[s] (we moved a lot) studying about their ways. I also learned a lot about their respect for all life. My father also had that respect, and passed it on to me.
I recall coming home one day with my newly initiated butterfly collection. I had this beautiful Monarch butterfly that I had caught (when i was 13), put in a bottle with mothballs to kill it, and then pinned to cardboard and proudly showed it to him. I will never forget the sadness and sincerity that afternoon when he said to me, "Oh the poor thing, it just wanted to live to!"
I learned a valuable lesson that day, that there is a time to kill, and a time to let live. He (and the books on Indian culture) had taught me that early on but it was slipping away secondary to the changing world around me (we had moved to California, lol). My father was no wimp. In fact, he had gone over to our next door neighbors house that very summer (had never been in that house) and in front of this mans 10-12 kids and wife, took off his belt and wiped his ass and then drug him outside and threw him in our car and took him to the police station and had him arrested for child abuse.
These kids were being tortured every day. They lived right next to us (across the alley) and every evening we could hear one of them crying, etc! They had a lot of kids and we had just figured one or two were being punished for being bad or whatever. One day this kid about my age, invited me into the house. It was very unusual for him to do that because they were very aloof, very guarded and stuck to themselves. He told me this horrific story how his father would come home every evening and randomly pick one child and then literally torture the hell out of them well into the night. I saw the fear in their eyes (the were literally shaking and weeping) and the hideous scowl on their fathers face when he walked past me as I was going down the stairs and out of the house and he was going up to their rooms to pick his victim of the day.
Well, that is besides the point. What I am saying, the point i am attempting to make, is that things have gotten somewhat out of hand in America over the last half century (since I was a kid). I use to go out and hunt jackrabbits with that bow with broadpoints/arrow tips (the blade type for hunting big game) and dreamed about bringing home a big buck some day instead of a measly jackrabbit.
BUT, i also new that if I had killed those hairs/rabbits when one had a litter of babies, there would be a bunch of little babies waiting an awful long time for their mother to return ... suffering a cruel and prolonged death. And I had stood face to face with a large cottontail which i had wounded but was not yet dead. It turned and stood up on its haunches and looked me directly in my eyes and let out a long and desperate wail. It was begging me for its life (it to just wanted to live). If you have never heard that from an animal, and are a hunter, I hope you soon will. It will certainly give anyone who has little or no concern for their preys desire to exist something to seriously consider before you take it home and hang it on your wall.
Well, kinda of a rant/ramble ... hope that i made my point!
PEACE!!
Edit: Another thing. How are you gonna feel when one of these people you just got into a heated argument with the night before ends up dead, and it could have been somehow directly related to some you said. Perhaps they were distracted by it while driving home (preoccupied by it) and drove off the road or hit some kid!
Try showing each other a little respect. We are each only on this planet for a VERY short time. Today could be your (or the person your hating on) last day here on earth. How would you like YOUR last day here on earth to be like?
"Do unto others as you would have them do to you."
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 16, 2012 - 07:09pm PT
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Whats up with the ass wiping?
Who?
Huh?
Kicking, yeah; but wiping?
Anyway, I've heard rabbits scream. But I yell back, "cause I'm gonna eat you!"
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splitter
Trad climber
da'Raven / Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Nov 16, 2012 - 07:32pm PT
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Ron O,
Dood, I am pretty certain I have killed WAY more rabbits than you, bro! How many rabbits have ya eatin? I am positive i got ya beat in that dept also. Rabbit is taste a lot like chickens dark meat, but a lot tastier, imo. And the same goes for deer/venison (prollie shot/eatin more).
Matter of fact, I loved hunting, it was practically a way of life. And if I was hungry and didn't live directly across the street from Albertson's and and a half dozen fast food places, i would do it in a heartbeat. It just seems as though it has lost much of its allure (for me anyway) living in these times in the middle of a big city. These doods here on ST whining about it (guns & hunting) would be the first ones to take it up, or beg you to go out and kill something for them if they had been born 50-100 years ago, or even now and lived off the beatin' track.
In my opinion, wildlife and animals in general have more than one purpose though. And I have come to respect that. That is all I was saying.
And as far as being an "asswipe" I sure in hell hope you weren't referring to me. Cuz, I have little self control at times, and I would hate to have you kick my F'n ass all over Jtree or wherever, should we run into eachother sometime and I was fool enough (believe me i am) to come up to you and remind you of it and challenge you to a fight.
Because where I come from, them's are fighting words. And I have gotten my ass kicked so many times over "fightin' words" that getting it kicked one more time isn't gonna make a whole lotta difference! lol
BTW, several of my uncles in canookland were hunting guides, bitd!(fisherman also/lobster, haddock, cod & halibut). Like I said, it was a way of life (a damn good way, imo)!!!
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 16, 2012 - 07:33pm PT
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Gosh, I started a thread that I tried deleting, but it still lives. Considering most of my threads die slow death down the Supertopo pages, I think that this one has legs. There is a lesson to be learned. Start a thread, then nuke it after a couple of posts and the thread lives on.
Boy, Ron and others, you taught me a valuable thread lesson. My hat is off to you people.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Nov 16, 2012 - 07:40pm PT
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What's chuckar taste like?
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splitter
Trad climber
da'Raven / Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Nov 16, 2012 - 07:49pm PT
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Ron A, ya I know ya only hunt jacks during winter. WInters are long in Cape Briton. The one that i confronted that stood up on its haunches was a big ol sucker (very tasty) that i bagged in Utah when I was about 14 (with a 22/not a bow). Venison was a staple in CB, ate it several times a week at least, & a lot of venison jerky. So, no telling how many. I was pretty sure ya had me beat in the hunting dept in larger game.
Ron O, (hard to keep you two Ron's seperated) I wasn't kissing anyone's ass, maybe attempting two walk a fine line between two camps, but no compromising my stance or whatever. Surely no asswiping, but I'll have to go back and look at what I wrote (suppose its not beyond me, lol) since I typed it last night and had just finished watching my favorite movie, "Bambi", for the 117th time (gets me every time, lo)! ...just kidding!
BTW, haven't you figured out by now that Weege is an F'n troll? I really like and admire the guy in many respects, but he musta been born under a f'n bridge. Just sayin'!
edit: "admire/respect" he's a family man, and loves his chidren & his wife. Hardworking/built his own house in the woods, pursued and got a degree and a career. Rope solos sh#t, etc., likes dogs, don't take sh#t from no one. and prollie many other things, but i don't wanna be accused of being an asswipe & get myself into another fight over "fightin words" cuz I'm really a big chickin sh#t except fer online !! ;)
Oh ya, one more thing i respect him for, he's uglier than sh#t and never whines about it!!
EDIT: why don't all you suckers try and show a little respect to eachother every once in awhile???
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 16, 2012 - 07:50pm PT
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Ron, rabbit, we used to raise them. But the raccoons would rip down the 9mm gauge fencing on the hutches, no problem and take the rabbit they wanted.
We had several chicken coops. The largest was about 15'x15'. When we would hear a noise the dogs and I would run up the hill. Try getting a skunk out of a coop, with a broom handle. You hold your breath and pray for the best.
Eggs are a missing = skunk. Chicken is a missing = raccoon.
The whole coop slaughtered, with out a chicken taken away = domesticated dogs.
And I have seen chickens swallow down mice. Chickens are vicious, nice little rabbits can be vicious, I worked on a ranch, only turkeys are stupider than sheep.
Goats are cool though. Ask Chaz.
EDIT
We had one goat, Lucifer, a big sucker, at least four feet at the shoulders. He had big horns, well over 15". We would 'wrestle' with him. He knew all the tricks, he'd drop his shoulder, and you thought you'd won, but then bang... up his head went and he won the contest. Talk about arm wrestling, Lucifer knew it all.
EDIT again
And Lucifer knew he'd gotten the better of a human (Mac, Casey, Brian, Andy, me)
He went to pasture on a friend's ranch, Levi, outside of Marysville, in the Sierra foothills. Levi had a pony and Lucifer and the pony hit it off like best of friends. It was a great sight to see, a pony and a goat becoming instant best friends.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:16pm PT
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Ron, you must have a respect for goats, clever creatures they are.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:20pm PT
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Splitter, I like you. Don't misconstrue.
You said;
took off his belt and wiped his ass
and, to be honest, despite the ambiguous reference, I was uncomfortable with either image.
As for wild hare, better on my plate than up you know where.
;-)
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:23pm PT
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splitter
Trad climber
da'Raven / Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:24pm PT
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I wanted to add this (cuz i don't think that i really made my point).
Where I grew up there were NO grocery stores or markets, or places to buy food, PERIOD! We, everyone on our part of the Island, were self suficient, or you starved to death, plain and simple. Subsistance fisherman, hunters and farmers. Most did all three. Some specialized in farming and would trade/barter for fish, etc!
If any of you gun/hunter haters were living there, born there when I was, you would have been doing the exact same thing, even Werner Braun!
Everyone owned guns, had respect for firearms, and it had nothing to do with the size of there penis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grow the fuking up!!
Ron - "Took off his belt and 'wiped'...! OH! I missed that (my eyes were prollie full of tears and sh#t since i just got done watching BAMBI, lol). I meant whipped (or however it is spelt)!!!!
Sorry about that Ron.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:41pm PT
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EDIT again
And Lucifer knew he'd gotten the better of a human (Mac, Casey, Brian, Andy, me)
He went to pasture on a friend's ranch, Levi, outside of Marysville, in the Sierra foothills. Levi had a pony and Lucifer and the pony hit it off like best of friends. It was a great sight to see, a pony and a goat becoming instant best friends, frolicking, not a care in the world. Mates, so to speak.
EDIT
Yes, but is it is a bump with a meaning. If we could all get along, despite our political allegiances... if a goat and a pony can get along, why can't we?
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splitter
Trad climber
da'Raven / Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:45pm PT
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if a goat and a pony can get along, why can't we? ^^^WORD!!!!
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:57pm PT
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And although Lucifer knew we loved him he was a big goat he needed more room. Going to Levi's ranch and meeting up with a pony who needed companionship, it was great to see them frolic together. A goat and a horse/pony... instant friends, sort of like meeting someone in C4 and the climbing with them.
EDIT
And it was a sight to see, believe me, as goat and a pony, never knew each other, but instant buddies, running in the fields, frolicking, my heart wept and yet, Lucifer was having a better life.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:00pm PT
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Let me see if I got it. Al Capone, sometimes at a loss for words, shoved a dildo in Time's vagina, which turned into a black hole which sucked up a bunch of whining rabbits who armed themselves with 30-30's & shotguns and went out looking for Popeye, some crack addicts, and Malcom X. A black panther appeared to protect Malcom ...
stay tuned for part two
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:02pm PT
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:03pm PT
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Well, Chaz' miniature goats, burro and Dobermans all apparently get along just fine. Even if the surviving goat thinks it's a dog.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 17, 2012 - 06:10am PT
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Anders, does it think it is a dobergoat?
I love you people. It has been a stressful morning. The health care assistant (HCA) the the health board sends on weekends (not always the same one), didn't call me until this morning, when I was at the garage and the mechanic was telling me that the ECP light could be anything (as I found out on Google), but it was the break light switch, more money out of the pocket.
So when the HCA came by I raised (I did not shout, you'll know when I shout) my voice why she did not give me advanced notice (she was suppose to the night before), and she was intimidated, and called the nurse, Mary, who I had never met.
Mary comes by and starts lecturing me about being civil. I told her there are two sides on a coin. It would be nice, decent, civil, to have some idea when the HCA would show up. She threatened (yes in so many words) that services may be withdrawn. Jennie needs these carers everyday for social support and interaction.
But I made a bollocks of the whole situation. Rent is due today, I don't have it. Car mechanic's bill, I can just make it.
I did not lose it, but I came pretty close. Shouting? NO! Upset and raised voice, YES! Stupid? That is me.
Stress can be a killer.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 17, 2012 - 07:07am PT
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Hey say, over there, Patrick--
So don't let 'em get your goat. I heard ol' Lucifer's hell on wheels.
We love ya, too, hope today goes better (is going better-- the time difference--you're up hours ago).
Oh look, Little Sure-Shot!
Happiness is a warm woohoo!
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