What is the largest El Cap team age spread?

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Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 14, 2012 - 01:24pm PT

of legitimate partners, someone who contributed to the ascent, not just jugging the whole thing.
Cheyne and I are 35 years apart.

survival

Big Wall climber

Terrapin Station

Nov 14, 2012 - 01:36pm PT

I am almost 52. My other me is 13.

So there's almost 40 years when I'm by myself......

But Jeremy's mom? mmmmmmm good.....

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2012 - 01:41pm PT

No way, Jeremy, Gagner is younger than me and you are older than Cheyne!

Max is not tall, he's about 5'8", but yeah, I bring the average way down.

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2012 - 01:48pm PT

Eric Sanford, who I did the NA Wall with, and who probably never cracked 5'4" wrote about us in a Summit article "our combined height is no where near eleven feet and we both use half bags as comfortable sleeping bags…"

survival

Big Wall climber

Terrapin Station

Nov 14, 2012 - 01:51pm PT

Yeah, Gagner is 85.....

Jeremy needs to back off the Modus.

Clint Cummins

Trad climber

SF Bay area, CA

Nov 14, 2012 - 01:52pm PT

Apparently ot the largest, but for reference:
Gerry Bloch 81, Mike Corbett 45, spread of 36, in 1999 - not much different than Mark and Cheyne!
Hans Florine 37, Scott Cory, 11, spread of 26, in 2001.

[sorry, I did not see the "legitimate partner" qualifier]

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2012 - 01:54pm PT

Wow, 81, that's impressive.

Melissa

Gym climber

berkeley, ca

Nov 14, 2012 - 01:55pm PT

Most female teams beat short male teams for minimum stature.

Have Jim and Cara H. done El Cap yet?

Clint Cummins

Trad climber

SF Bay area, CA

Nov 14, 2012 - 02:04pm PT

I don't think Jim and Kara have done El Cap yet, other than the West Face, and a run up to the Stovelegs where there was a a traffic jam of other parties. Their age spread is somewhere in the 30s, I think.

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2012 - 02:08pm PT

So what about the oldest team of two?

Melissa

Gym climber

berkeley, ca

Nov 14, 2012 - 02:13pm PT

Probably a couple of grizzled Germans on the Nose who didn't check in or consider themselves old.

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2012 - 02:17pm PT

Melissa, do you still have that hook?

Greg Barnes

climber

Nov 14, 2012 - 02:19pm PT

Reminds me of driving a 4x4 road into southern Death Valley when I was 15 - my grandmother was driving the other 4x4 and she was 81, my dad thought we probably had the oldest & youngest ever to drive that road, let alone at the same time!

Jaybro

Social climber

Wolf City, Wyoming

Nov 14, 2012 - 02:19pm PT

I heard that Eric Pearlman & partner have the record for oldest team of two.

I remember that Summit article. I have the issue in storage

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2012 - 02:40pm PT

I know Eric really wants to get the oldest NIAD ascent with both climbers over 60 but I don't think it's happened yet.

micronut

Trad climber

Nov 14, 2012 - 03:21pm PT

I wonder what the largest spread in IQ's is for a team.

I'm a 182. Mark? Please say we aren't gonna break the record this Spring.

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2012 - 03:25pm PT

Uh, ah, we'll. I like eggs!

climber

Nov 14, 2012 - 03:33pm PT

Bloch, a pioneering climber BITD, did jug his last ascent. Disqualified from thread.

briham89

Big Wall climber

san jose, ca

Nov 14, 2012 - 03:33pm PT

One of my partners and I are 3 days apart ;)

JLP

Social climber

The internet

Nov 14, 2012 - 03:36pm PT

I've been wondering recently who is the oldest to free an El Cap route? Not the West Face. Jim Herson? Age? When is Hudon going to get after this?

Melissa

Gym climber

berkeley, ca

Nov 14, 2012 - 03:39pm PT

I think Steve freed it at 50ish, and one or more Huber has done so in their 40's, I think (guessing on age). Heinz was probably in his 40's when he did Freerider, and Platinum Rob would have been around 40 on the Pre-Muir.

Mark, maybe I'll get you for Secret Santa. It's still sitting out waiting for me to go to the post office and remember it at the same time.

Norte_Caroliña_Climber

Gym climber

BigWall Baller From the Holler

Nov 14, 2012 - 03:39pm PT

Well JLP,

Has Englekirk freed an EC route? He'd be a candidate for oldest to free it. Probably gotta be StevePoopi at this point, but wasn't that on the one with the A0 rappell point (El Nino maybe?) not all free if you're a hard liner on them things.

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2012 - 03:44pm PT

Well, Max and I are going to be celebrating the 40th anniversary of our first climb together, The Nose, in 2016. He'll be 58 and I'll be 60.

Route TBA.

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2012 - 03:45pm PT

I think Shipoopi does have the oldest free ascent.

Bad Climber

climber

Nov 14, 2012 - 03:48pm PT

Wow, Mark, that is soooo cool. You guys have always been my heroes. Get after it!

BAd

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2012 - 03:57pm PT

Well, it ain't 2016 yet, but there is always dreaming…

Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber

San Francisco

Nov 14, 2012 - 04:03pm PT

Shipoopi does have the oldest free ascent

How old was he?

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2012 - 04:07pm PT

I think he's 54 now and I know it wasn't in the last four years.

Gagner

climber

Boulder

Nov 14, 2012 - 04:07pm PT

Steve is 52

zBrown

Ice climber

chingadero de chula vista

Nov 14, 2012 - 05:09pm PT

duplicate post, but what's memory to a disc drive

Bloch was pretty impressive.

I believe Gerry Bloch did at 68. Then again at 81. Sadly, he passed away in 2008.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/El-Capitan-and-the-King-At-81-Gerry-Bloch-2923744.php

Mighty Hiker

climber

Vancouver, B.C.

Nov 14, 2012 - 05:23pm PT

Mark, maybe you should train up Paul, and do a route with him. There must be 30+ years between you, maybe enough for a record.

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2012 - 05:31pm PT

Paul, my nephew? No, he's 32, much older than Cheyne.

Mighty Hiker

climber

Vancouver, B.C.

Nov 14, 2012 - 05:32pm PT

OK then, how about your daughter?

WBraun

climber

Nov 14, 2012 - 05:39pm PT

None of this age stuff or spreads make any sense at all pertaining to climbing competence.

Yet it's used all the time.

Seems totally weird to me.

It's what you know and can do in the present moment that counts ......

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2012 - 05:41pm PT

Werner, yes, it's relevance to competence is non-existant, but it's more fun to talk about this than politics!
MH, she keeps saying she wants to climb the Nose with me. She's 15 now. It would be wild to do it with her.

Andrew Barnes

Ice climber

Albany, NY

Nov 14, 2012 - 05:50pm PT

What about Fred Beckey? Did he do any climbing on El Cap? He certainly climbed a lot in the Sierra Nevada.

JLP

Social climber

The internet

Nov 14, 2012 - 07:54pm PT

Clint's page suggests Shipoopi did Freerider in 2005. So, about 45 yrs old is the oldest free ascent?

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Nov 14, 2012 - 07:58pm PT

Probably not a record, but who was it that climbed El Cap with his son when he was in his sixties?

I wanna say Tom Higgins, but I may be wrong. I think I read about it in a magazine, but I may be wrong .

Melissa

Gym climber

berkeley, ca

Nov 14, 2012 - 09:38pm PT

^Good call. Ryan and Tom Frost on the Salathe.

Darwin

Trad climber

Seattle, WA

Nov 14, 2012 - 10:14pm PT

Sorry if I missed this up-thread, but I wonder about the youngest combined age? But they had to have swung leads. For starters, I'm putting out Luke and Werner back in '70 or '71?.